[WWI] Barker's Camel

Thunderbird Models tbirdmodels at gmail.com
Sun Apr 16 11:28:56 EDT 2017

Thanks Bob, the black cowling looks much more likely to me than PC10 - and
rather more interesting I might add!

I've sent Richard at WNW an email asking him (in the nicest possible way!)
how they came to the conclusion that it was PC10. Not sure if he'll respond
but I'll let you all know if he does.


Andy Bannister
Thunderbird Models Ltd

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On 15 April 2017 at 19:48, Bob Pearson <bpearson at citytel.net> wrote:

> Here is a page I did about Barker’s Camel almost 20 years ago
> http://www.cbrnp.com/profiles/quarter1/barkers-camel.htm
> Bob
> *From:* Ray Boorman <fokkereiv at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, April 14, 2017 9:54 AM
> *To:* World War I Modeling Mailing List <wwi at wwi-models.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [WWI] Barker's Camel
> You have to be careful with his aircraft, being the longest serving Camel.
> He had it for more than a year, in which time it had more than one
> replacement undercarriage, new top wing. and had been repainted and redoped
> more than once. So perhaps sometime during that time it was as portrayed..
> pity it wasn't preserved...
> Ray
> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 6:44 AM Thunderbird Models <tbirdmodels at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> The Wingnuts Camels arrived a couple of days ago. I'll dispense with the
>> usual superlatives; they are typical WNW quality - enough said! I take
>> issue with their depiction of Barker's Camel though. They have it as glossy
>> PC10 cowling and metal / wood panels. Surely this can't be? Photographs
>> show this to be extremely dark - black or red would be my guess - nowhere
>> near the PC10 of the rest of the airframe, even taking into account tonal
>> differences due to gloss vs semi-gloss paint or the different materials
>> being covered. In Chaz Bowyer's "Sopwith Camel, King of Combat", it's
>> stated that one of Barker's pilot's said he "liked a show" and painted the
>> small spinner red. No mention of red being applied anywhere else, but
>> surely someone who "liked a show" would not have had his machines cowling
>> etc. overpainted in dull PC10?!
>> Anyone know where Wingnuts got this idea from? Is there any documentation
>> to support it? It's not standard practice as far as I'm aware so I can't
>> see Barker requesting such a dull scheme. I may drop Wingnuts a line to see
>> where they came up with the colouring.
>> Andy Bannister
>> Thunderbird Models Ltd
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