[WWI] List bounces and subscription suspension was: What is happening

[John Ratzenberger]

Allan,
Thanks for looking into this and for your explanation !!

You said "The first of every month the mailing list sends you an e-mail which includes your account/password information as well as the links to the web administration page for the list for your account."

Really? I do not think I have ever seen that message, nor have I found it in my Yahoo spam trap ?

John Ratzenberger

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Allan Wright 
To: World War I Modeling Mailing List 
Sent: Friday, 02 October, 2009 10:34
Subject: [WWI] List bounces and subscription suspension was: What is happening


It's Yahoo. I've had over a dozen people get dropped recently with Yahoo addresses. Yahoo is having some problems on their end. Unfortunately I can't control that.

I've just adjusted the list settings to hopefully make the list more tolerant of bounces, although I'm not sure how much it will help. The previous settings were already waiting until your ISP bounced messages back 5 times before dropping you. I've upped the limit to 8 bounces. If your ISP continues to give you trouble, you might try digest mode. That way you'd have to bounce for 8 DAYS (one message/digest per day) before being dropped which would give your ISP more time to resolve it's issues.

As always, if you get dropped, you can always go to the web page and re-enable it yourself. The first of every month the mailing list sends you an e-mail which includes your account/password information as well as the links to the web administration page for the list for your account. In this case, a good offense might be your best defense.

For those who wonder why you get suspended, consider a list like ours with over 2000 members over the years. As addresses go 'dark' if those people didn't get suspended, my server would have to receive all the bounced messages and store them. Eventually it would choke my system with bounces such that the list (and my computer) would stop functioning. So unfortunately this feature is a necessary evil. I always try to help as much as I can when this happens to people. I hate to lose subscribers. You're what makes this all so special.

Thanks for understanding,
Allan




On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 09:58 -0400, John Ratzenberger wrote: 
  I got my 3rd (or 4th) just this morning. 
  Could the list guys maybe look at the setting and see if it is set a bit too finely ? 
  I assume that between the time the "bounces" message is sent and I respond to it (in this case only an hour), I am potentially missing messages ? 
   
  Unfortunately, I have no "evidence" at my end that would allow me to go back to Yahoo & complain, as it is undoubtedly impacting other email sent to my Yahoo accounts ... 
   
  John R 
   
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ray Boorman 
  To: World War I Modeling Mailing List 
  Sent: Friday, 02 October, 2009 08:15 
  Subject: Re: [WWI] What is happening 



  I think this is yahoo causing the issue. I had digests going to my yahoo account but it was bouncing so much the wwi server had to unsub me. My account here on gmail is fine and thats in detailed mode.  



  Ray 
  On 2-Oct-09, at 12:11 AM, J.R. Boye wrote: 


         Me too. I've gotten the "bounced" message twice in two months. 
        My e-mail goes to sbcglobal, which is one of the Yahoo addresses. My box is never very full when this happens.

                                               J.R. Boye





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    From: John Ratzenberger <JohnRatzenberger at yahoo.com>
    To: World War I Modeling Mailing List <wwi at wwi-models.org>
    Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 11:19:27 AM
    Subject: Re: [WWI] What is happening


    Agree, I've had the "you're bouncing" warning twice on last 2-3 weeks -- and am also on yahoo ... 
     
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: james dickie 
    To: World War I Modeling Mailing List 
    Sent: Thursday, 01 October, 2009 11:50 
    Subject: Re: [WWI] What is happening 



          I had the same 'bouncing' problem over the past few weeks (happened twice)...maybe it's something to do with yahoo...



          --- On Thu, 10/1/09, Douglas Anderson <djandersonza at yahoo.com> wrote:


            From: Douglas Anderson <djandersonza at yahoo.com>
            Subject: [WWI] What is happening
            To: "World War I Modeling Mailing List" <wwi at wwi-models.org>
            Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 6:34 AM


            I haven't heard anything from teh group in a few days, and now I a told that my address is bouncing. Any-one else get a similar message? 


         







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