[WWI] Maurice Farman Aileron Control Question

Clay Fulcher cwgf at flash.net
Sat Jan 5 13:29:51 EST 2008


Thanks Ernest, Knut and Carlos. It appears the consensus is that the ailerons do oppose one another when actuated. That's the way it appears in the Tech Notes also. That's how I will position them.

Thanks again all.

Clay

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Knut Erik Hagen<mailto:knut.erik.hagen at eunet.no> 
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  Subject: [WWI] Maurice Farman Aileron Control Question


  Hei,

  Early Farman aircraft can be seen on the ground with ailerons on both sides
  hanging down.
  When in flight would it be possible for the pilot to depress one aileron to
  lift the wing, but there would be no raising of the other.
  I think it was because it made the control runs simpler and they would avoid
  loosing any of the precious lift on the opposite wing.

  The aircraft on display here in Oslo is a Farman M.F.7 Longhorn.
  It was not assembled/rigged 100% right, just like the Bleriot XI next to it
  with its horizontal tail installed upside down.
  The staff have now connected up the ailerons so they don`t hang down anymore.

  Looking at the M.F.7 on display in MAE does it seem to have one aileron
  up while the other is down, the downwards movement appears to be twice 
  as much or more than the upwards.  
  This matches photos I have of M.F.11 aircraft in flight.
  So I would rig the model with one aileron down and the other just a touch up. 


    Eders
  Knut Erik


  >Hi Clay, long time no see!
  >
  >Some earlier aircraft had, while resting, all ailerons in the lowered
  >position, and this aplies to some pre-war Farmans. I'm not sure about the
  >M.F.11., but the only photo I saw with this is of a museum aircraft (
  >http://www.tekniskmuseum.no/no/utstillingene/fly/bilder/hallen_lite.jpg). I
  >remember that the technical issue was discussed here but I can't remember
  >how it works.
  >
  >Carlos
  >
  >On Jan 5, 2008 3:13 AM, Clay Fulcher <cwgf at flash.net<mailto:cwgf at flash.net>> wrote:
  >
  >>  Greetings,
  >>
  >> I'm building a 1:72 Maurice Farman M.F.11. I recently got a copy of the
  >> "Air Board Technical Notes" which shows detailed rigging plans for the
  >> Farman (and 4 other aircraft). It seems to me that when the ailerons are
  >> raised on one side of the aircraft, that the ailerons on the opposite side
  >> have to be lowered, based on how I understand the rigging path. Does anyone
  >> know if this is true?
  >>
  >> Thanks in advance for your help.
  >>
  >> Clay Fulcher


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