[WWI] Swastika again

Magnus Berggren carius at comhem.se
Wed Mar 14 12:20:27 EDT 2007


Sorry, but no.
Carl Gustav is just a common name for weapon system made by Garl Gustav AB, 
which was a subcompany to Bofors, before they went into BAE Systems Ltd. The 
name is a common name among royals and nobility, and that might have 
influenced the naming of the original company. The Carl Gustav m/48 anti 
tank was developed by captain Harald Jentzen. The swedish submachinegun is 
for example called Carl Gustav m/45.
But you are right that it´s loud and effective. It might be one of the best 
"hand-held" antitank ever IMHO. I trained with it a lot during my military 
service.

/Magnus

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "timothy mixon" <mixontda at msn.com>
To: <wwi at wwi-models.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [WWI] Swastika again


> Would that be the Carl Gustav weapons designer and manufacturer? I took 
> the opportunity of firing one of the anti-tank rounds while training with 
> the 2nd Ranger Bn. Very impressive and LOUD!
>
>
>>From: "Buz Pezold" <pezo8481 at bellsouth.net>
>>Reply-To: World War I Modeling Mailing List <wwi at wwi-models.org>
>>To: "World War I Modeling Mailing List" <wwi at wwi-models.org>
>>Subject: Re: [WWI] Swastika again
>>Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:04:20 -0400
>>
>>Grze,
>>
>>      That is an interesting story of von Rosen, but I am not sure that
>>information is altogether correct.  Eric von Rosen is credited with the
>>"Blue" Swastika as being adopted by the Finnish airforce.  In 1918 he
>>donated a Thulin built Morane-Saulnier to the upstart Finish airforce to
>>defend Finland against the Bolshevik infiltration during the Russian Civil
>>War. His son is Carl Gustav von Rosen and he is the one that was involved
>>with the Abyssinians during the Italian invasion of Ethiopia.  Another 
>>note
>>is that Eric von Rosen is the "brother in law" to Herman Göring which 
>>makes
>>Carl Gustav von Rosen the nephew to Uncle Herman.  Here are some links to
>>their biography:
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Gustav_von_Rosen
>>
>>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_von_Rosen
>>
>>The Nieuport that you describe did not have a "Blue" Swastika.  The 
>>Swastika
>>was black and that plane belonged to A. A. Kozakov.  I could be wrong 
>>about
>>the "Blue" Swastika.  I just can't find anything about Eric von Rosen 
>>flying
>>for the Russians in WW1.  Carl Gustav von Rosen would have been too young.
>>He was born in 1909.  If Eric von Rosen flew with the Russians in WW1, I
>>sure would like to know more.
>>
>>Buz
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: wwi-bounces at wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi-bounces at wwi-models.org]On
>>Behalf Of Grzegorz Mazurowski
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 4:57 PM
>>To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
>>Subject: [WWI] Swastika again
>>
>>
>>Hi!
>>Reading nearly on-topic book (Airplanes of the Spanish Civil War by 
>>Howson)
>>I've found interesting information that famous Finnish-Swedish pilot 
>>flying
>>during WWI in Russian service, Kreivi von Rosen, guy who flew Nieuport 
>>with
>>blue swastika (which later became Finnish national marking) was helping
>>Abisinians during Italian invasion, and later has sold his own Fokker 
>>F.VII
>>to Spanish Republicans!
>>Hardly pro-Fascist!
>>
>>Cheers!
>>G.
>>
>>
>>
>
> 



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