[WWI] ot: Ebay shipping costs

[Michael Kendix]

Ah but Ray, according to caveat emptor you have to know to ask the precise 
materials, material quality and material quantity in the packing. If you 
don't ask then it's YOUR fault.

I guess my point is that if you have to have 20 point check off list each 
time you buy some 10 dollar item, it's ridiculous and deters trade.  The 
vendor is in a sense "pissing in the pool" by behaving like this. His 
actions reflect on other vendors and everyone has to nervously ask about all 
sorts of detail that normal folks would take for granted.

Michael


>From: "Ray Boorman" <fokkereiv at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: World War I Modeling Mailing List <wwi at wwi-models.org>
>To: "World War I Modeling Mailing List" <wwi at wwi-models.org>
>Subject: Re: [WWI] ot: Ebay shipping costs
>Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:27:23 -0500
>
>I have to really disagree here. They charged for premium packaging and
>sent it with el-cheapo packing. You dont know that until you receive
>the package. That is gouging and every bit as bad as sending say a
>damaged model. Therefore negative feedback is required. The packaging
>price is not the issue here its what you get for it.
>
>Ray
>
>On 3/2/07, Scottrik <scottrik at noisymuse.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>In which case we must agree to disagree.
>>
>>My feeling is that if the seller meets all their obligations under the
>>listing to leave "negative" feedback is inappropriate and worthy of 
>>negative
>>feedback right back at you without being "retaliatory". No one was holding 
>>a
>>gun to ANYONE'S head forcing them to buy. If you (anyone) bought at the
>>auction you did so of your own free will and did so accepting the terms 
>>and
>>conditions as-published. To come back after the fact is, to me, being 
>>every
>>bit as "dishonest" in one's dealing.
>>
>>My choice...just don't buy from them. If someone else is willing to play 
>>the
>>game, more power to them.
>>
>>Scottrik
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: wwi-bounces at wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi-bounces at wwi-models.org]On
>>Behalf Of Andy Bannister
>>Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 9:49 AM
>>To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [WWI] ot: Ebay shipping costs
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > This in by NO means to say I agree with the practice(s), but there is
>> > absolutely NO way anyone can in good faith leave negative feedback if 
>>the
>> > price(s) were identified upfront in the listing.
>>
>>I disagree Scott. It's a form of misrepresentation and if you disagree 
>>with
>>the practice then the only way to stop it is to leave negative, or at 
>>least
>>neutral feedback. If the seller were to say in their listing "the inflated
>>postage cost is so I don't have to pay inflated eBay fees but the overall
>>price the buyer is paying remains the same" then I would agree that 
>>leaving
>>negative feedback would be wrong. Of course, if someone DID put that on
>>their listing then the eBay overlords would undoubtedly remove the 
>>auction!
>>Andy
>>
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