[WWI] Accurate colors
Stephen Auslender
auslend at snet.net
Thu Jun 7 10:47:34 EDT 2007
"By the way, how come your posts are so long? Did you get paid by the page
in academia or something?:)
Michael"
Michael,
I guess I am just long winded.
I like the term "verbose".
Others, however, like the term "wordy", or "full of hot air", or even
"gassy".
If all the noise I make bothers enough of you guys I'll just shut up.
No problem at all.
Stephen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Kendix" <mkendix at hotmail.com>
To: <wwi at wwi-models.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [WWI] Accurate colors
> >From: "Stephen Auslender" <auslend at snet.net>
>>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 18:03:29 -0400
>>
>>Isn't there the problem of the WHEN appearance of the model aeroplane? Is
>>the model supposed >to represent the specific craft just as it left the
>>paint shop, with a brand spanking new paint job? >or after a week of
>>flying, or after a month of flying, or two months?
>>
>>Also the WHERE is meaningful, too. An aircraft exposed to the winds and
>>sand storms and hot sun >of the western desert will show changes in color
>>differently than a similar craft that saw action in a >European winter, or
>>an European summer for that matter.
>>Additionally some colors are noted for their rapid changing under the
>>sun's rays, like red for >example.
>>
>>A good friend of mine who is a super modeler and was a combat grunt in
>>Viet Nam related to me >seeing a row of army trucks in 'nam. I am quoting
>>him: "Ever see what the sun does to flat colors >in a matter of days ? , a
>>bit longer to semi-gloss ? I can tell you first hand from reality that you
>> >could tell the age of any given piece of equipment by the shades it
>> >faded
>>to in the hot sun like in >Nam , or even in the near desert summer heat in
>>Ft. Riley, Kansas. Just looking down a row of >vehicles you could see a
>>dozen variations including that "chalky" oxidized finish that if you ran
>>your >fingers across a dusty film of the paint color was on your
>>fingertips."
>
> Don't think anyone is really contesting any of the above.
>
>>Furthermore, no matter how you guys argue and rant there is no way you are
>>going to convince >me that paint colors did not vary from provider to
>>provider and even, in some cases, from batch to >batch from the same
>>provider. Especially during wartime conditions.
>
> Well, there has been very little arguing and especially ranting on this
> list - until recently.
>
>>All I look for in a color is something close to what most probably was in
>>use at that time in that >location. Finding that color is difficult, even
>>if we a have a piece of the actual fabric from an 80 >year old souvenir.
>>Those of you who seek absolutes in your life will argue with me but the
>>most you can do for me is >to finally find a color that perhaps is
>>"closest".
>
> Nobody is arguing.
>
>>For that I thank you.
>>
>>Since I do not enter IPMS contests I am never bothered by what the judges
>>say or argue. My >sympathies are all with you guys who have been bitten by
>>the contest bug and thus must endure >the judging process.
>
> Once again, I like to enter competitions, as do others, occasionally. I
> hardly ever come across a situation in judging where weathering or color
> choice is an issue. This is simply a non-issue - an urban legend if you
> like, and you appear to be trying to drum up some mythical entity or
> situaton to criticize.
>
> The people who judge give up "their" time at these conventions when they
> could be doing something else like drinking at the bar or wandering around
> the vendors.
>
> By the way, how come your posts are so long? Did you get paid by the page
> in academia or something?:)
>
> Michael
>
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