[WWI] Lebedev logo?

Michael Kendix mkendix at hotmail.com
Tue Feb 6 20:46:30 EST 2007


Is there only one declension for masculine and one for feminine?  Latin has 
5 declensions.

Michael

>From: "Mark Shannon" <shingend at ix.netcom.com>
>Reply-To: World War I Modeling Mailing List <wwi at wwi-models.org>
>To: "World War I Modeling Mailing List" <wwi at wwi-models.org>
>Subject: Re: [WWI] Lebedev logo?
>Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:41:50 -0600
>
>Russian is a declensioned language, like Latin, German, and Finnish.  The
>'ev' ending on a word indicates Genitive Plural case.  In other words,
>Lebedev would mean "Of the Swans" so it would be, if I have it right,
>"Joint-Stock Manufacturing Company Of Aeroplanes, V. A. Lebeds'"  Notice
>the word "Vozdukhoplavana" ( of Aeroplanes) is the same case as Lebedev,
>but feminine gender.  I think the usage of the plural for Lebed is because
>of the joint stock, rather than saying there were a lot of Lebeds in
>particular involved.
>
>Mark Shannon
>shingend at ix.netcom.com
>
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Mikko Saarela <saarela.mikko at kolumbus.fi>
> > To: World War I Modeling Mailing List <wwi at wwi-models.org>
> > Date: 2/6/2007 1:41:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WWI] Lebedev logo?
> >
> > >
> > >> Does anybody have any information of what Lebedev factory logo as 
>worn
>in
> > >> the centre of Lebedev produced Nieuport 10 rudder roundel looked 
>like?
> > >> The couple of images in the IRAS book by Durkota et al. show faintly 
>a
> > >> small round device, ca. 10 cm, 3-4 inches in diametre in the middle 
>of
> > >> roundel.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Jan!
> > >
> > > I think you are looking for Lebed, not Lebedev logo. There was a V.A.
> > > Lebedev, who designed some flying boats, but the big company was Lebed
>-
> > > according to several sources including Red Stars 3. I think the 
>Durkota
> > > book makes a mistake there.
> > >
> > > The logo is something inside a small, presumably red or black circle. 
>A
> > > picture of a swan perhaps?
> > >
> > > Mikko
> > >
> > Durkota book makes no mistake here. I did. the combany was indeed
> > Aktzionernoe Obschestivo Vozdukhoplavana V.A.Lebedeva, 'V.A.Lebedev
> > Joint-Stock Aeronautics Company'. Lebed - 'Swan' - was the name of their
>own
> > a/c types. Thanks to Petri Sallinen for this information. He is the
>fellow
> > Finnish modeler, who originally asked the questiom about the Lebedev
>logo.
> > BTW, he's still looking for the logo. Just for sheer interest, even tho
> > there is no need to know what it looks like for decals in 1/72 or 1/48.
> >
> > Mikko
> >
>
>
>

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