[WWI] Scale black
Douglas Anderson
djandersonza at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 21 01:20:18 EST 2006
Now this is getting technical. But what Tom says is perfectly true. For the 'true' colour to be appreciated, one would need to stand a fair distance away from the model. In photographs scale colour can appear more real. The problem with colour is perception; lighting is the biggest factor. I have photographs somewhere of a natural-metal-finished F104 under a variety of lighting conditions, and each and every colour from the metal to the national insignia and unit markings are different.
Personally I would rather paint the model in the correct colour simply because it is a small representation of the real thing, and getting older I need to put the old eyeballs much closer to the model to appreaciate it.
As for the mountains appearing purple in the distance, this is because of the atmosphere. On the Moon and Mars, both of which lack atmospheres, the colours and lines are very sharp. On Earth, the lines tend to blur slightly, lack clarity, visual detail and there is a shift towards the blue due to refraction of light by the particles in the air.
Tom Mason <tom.mason at charter.net> wrote:
Another thing on scale colour when it comes to mountains, quite often they
look purple in colour. So using this should a model railroader paint his
mountains in the back ground purple?
Someone brought up a good point. Even though a 1/72 model looked at from one
foot away is the equivalent of 72 feet away our brain doesn't see it that
way, it registers it as something close and interprets it that way. I think
we will all agree that there is no absolute answer on this. it is a scale
representation of something and we all do our best to do this in our own way
and not necessarily agreeing with another's interpretation of how to do
this. it good example for me is the trend to do heavy panel line shading. I
think it looks horrible and very unrealistic. if someone wants to do it
fine, just allow me to not like it.
I finally have to say that we all have pretty much covered this subject.
T.O.M.
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From: "Andy Bannister"
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> to compare it to your example, you have to have at least 50 miles
> between you and mountains before they fade to a really nice blue. at
> 1:700 scale, you'd have to be standing 360 feet away from your ship
> model for the equivalent "fade to blue" effect you were extrapolating
> out to the nth degree. clearly nobody's talking about anything anywhere
> near that extreme, but rather, a colour effect about 1/360th that intense.
>
> iban.
>
> Without getting into meterology and the science of atmospherics (which I
> have only a layman's knowledge of anyway), the colour of our atmosphere is
> due to, amongst other things, the particles in it, not the air itself.
> Therefore to say that things always fade to blue isn't necessarily true.
> If
> there is haze or smog present things may fade with a gray or brown hue. On
> an overcast day your mountains would have a gray tint rather than blue. On
> a
> bright blue winter day (which is pretty rare in the UK!) you may get a
> fade
> to blue but a hot summer day would often have an increased level of haze.
> And as you say, it takes a lot of distance to create a noticeable effect
> anyway.
> Andy
>
>
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