[WWI] Copyright whinge on the "Other Side"

Neil Eddy steed_and_peel at iprimus.com.au
Sat Jan 22 06:10:23 EST 2005

Hi Sean;

I agree with you, the idea of research of any kind is to increase knowledge
of the topic to the benefit of all that are interested.. There would be no
point in publishing incorrect data knowingly because supposedly someone else
has copyright. It makes no sense as you say. As I've pointed out 'over
there' I think the whole notion of copyright of WW1 markings is open to
serious question.

I have a suspicion this all comes back to ego and/or money.... wouldn't that
be surprising? ;-)

All the Best

Neil E
(Down There)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sean Brian Kirby" <acebuilder2003 at yahoo.com>
To: "World War I Modeling Mailing List" <wwi at wwi-models.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [WWI] Copyright whinge on the "Other Side"

> --- Neil Eddy <steed_and_peel at iprimus.com.au> wrote:
> > Hi All;
> >
> > Seems our Bob has upset someone.....
> >
> >
> http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showthread.php?p=192728#post192728
> >
> > Any thoughts from anyone regarding my reply?
> Oh, I think you're absolutely right. We all know there
> are assorted drawings of the various types out there.
> Among these, soemtimes one is right. To not copy the
> one correct profile extant - is to get it wrong.
> The aeroplanes Mr. San-Abbott researches were designed
> by men nearly ninety years ago. If anyone were to have
> any copyright to their line, their shape - it would be
> the designers. Not a man getting the research on the
> matter right almost a century on.
> By the same token, if through his research Mr.
> San-Abbott has the camoflage pattern of a certain
> aeroplane 100% on-the-money - then he has accurately
> conveyed something that was devised by a military man
> probably long-since gone. If it's correct - the aim -
> then the research is his, but certainly not the
> pattern! By the same token, if he has it all wrong -
> then he can accurately claim it as his own, something
> he almost surely would not wish to do.
> Am I making any sense here?
> Ultimately, among us WWI-types (and other avid
> hobbyists of any kind), I thought we did the research
> with the express purpose of sharing and setting the
> historical record straight. To make money, one puts
> this information in books, on CDs, et cetera. Beyond
> that, if you have set the record straight on what was
> devised many decades previous, and someone utilises
> your research for the betterment of their own product
> - that is the whole point, yes? Otherwise, if someone
> who correctly researched a Reinhold Platz design wants
> to claim a copyright - and a court finds you cannot
> use said research in making your profiles of these
> antiquated bits of aviation history - then that artist
> must endeavor to makes his profile at least slightly
> wrong (and thus perhaps his own) to be legal. What
> sense does that make?
> My two.
> Sean
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