Yeah, Ed, I really thought it was going to hurt. The second crash was even worse. Thanks to everyone for the H.1 information. Too bad about the "real" replica. So what did they use for the OT aircraft? They looked exactly like the "Hells Angels" planes. J.R. Boye P.S. All this Formaplane F.E. 2b talk makes me want one. Anyone want to get rid of one ?