[WWI] Twin-Boom Nieuport Hydro was: a morane saulnier pusher.....

iban ibancorp at tds.net
Tue Feb 22 01:30:33 EST 2005


thanks brad!

even a photo, eh?  great!  even one is a 100% improvement over the photos
i've got so far.  i can hardly wait til it arrives!

best,

iban.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad & Merville" <bigglesrfc at sympatico.ca>
To: "World War I Modeling Mailing List" <wwi at wwi-models.org>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 2:54 PM
Subject: [WWI] Twin-Boom Nieuport Hydro was: a morane saulnier pusher.....


Hi Iban

   I did reply to you this morning by hitting the reply button but the list
doesn't seem to like that these days.
   Leo's book has one picture of the Nieuport hydro pusher, likely the one
you've seen, and there is a short blurb but not much else.

   "Very little is known about a third seaplane design from the Nieuport
firm.  Built in 1912-1913, it was a large sesquiplane with a short central
fuselage for a crew of 2 or 3, and a 110 hp Salmson engine installed as a
pusher.  The tail surfaces were mounted at the ends of 2 long booms
fabricated of compressed paper.  The machine was reported to have been an
armoured design for military use only, eventually to mount a forward-firing
machine gun.  Only one was built and flown."

"(Span: (upper) 15m; (lower) 7m; length: 7.5m; wing area: 40 sqm;
speed:110kmh)".

Cheers
Brad

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "iban" <ibancorp at tds.net>
>
> brad, mon ami,
>
> i have this book coming but can't stand the wait.
>
> there doesn't happen to be anything in the nieuport section about nieup's
> one and only pusher, does there?  it was a monoplane (mostly*) 2-seater,
> with twin booms (p-38 style) and on floats, *with an additional half-wing
> between the nacelle and the floats.
>
> a particularly unusual thing was that in order to get the booms to have
> nice
> compound curves, our eddie covered them with papier mache (on the real
> actual aeroplane!) and then doped them like crazy.
>
> any info you might have would be *most* appreciated.
>
> best,
>
> iban.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brad & Merville" <bigglesrfc at sympatico.ca>
> To: "World War I Modeling Mailing List" <wwi at wwi-models.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [WWI] a morane saulnier pusher? mon dieu!
>
>
>> iban
>>
>>    There's a picture in Leo Opdyke's French Aeroplanes Before The Great
> War
>> of a Morane pusher floatplane which is called "Type Biplan" and is
> described
>> as "a Farman look-alike seaplane which flew at Monaco with 'Morane
> Saulnier'
>> painted on the nacelle...also the inscription 'LeRhone'."  Would this be
> the
>> same one?  No other pushers are mentioned. Where on the web did you find
>> your reference?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Brad
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "iban" <ibancorp at tds.net>
>> To: <wwi at wwi-models.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 7:21 PM
>> Subject: [WWI] a morane saulnier pusher? mon dieu!
>>
>>
>> >i just came across this on the web.
>> >
>> > as many of you know, i have a thing for exotic and unusual pushers.
>> >
>> > apparently morane saulnier built a pusher!
>> >
>> > i had no idea.  (not that that means much, mind you!)
>> >
>> > but in 1913, they were building what they called their "type d", which
>> > looks a lot like a simplified dh1 or vickers gunbus--but, on floats!
>> >
>> > cool!
>> >
>> > does anyone else know anything more about this?
>> >
>> > iban.



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