CCI Digest 838 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Charles Robert Gooding by "Jay Gilmour" 2) Re: Tedder by "malcolm BARRASS" 3) Re: Tedder by "Errol Martyn" 4) Re: Tedder by "Errol Martyn" 5) Re: Hythe Gun Camera by "Olivier Dufour" 6) RE: Hythe Gun Camera by Nick Forder 7) RE: Daimler pilots by Nick Forder 8) Mespot by Nick Forder 9) Re: Coal Aston AAP by "IAN KINGSNORTH" 10) Re: Tedder by GaGin1@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:21:49 -0800 From: "Jay Gilmour" To: "C&CI" Subject: Charles Robert Gooding Message-ID: <002001c2e461$12a418e0$b59027d8@jagil> Just a 'heads up' in case anyone is interested in Gooding or collecting RAF materials. This item is on eBay at the URL posted below. Currently 51.00GBP Jay Gilmour "THIS IS A WW2 SQUADRON LEADERS TUNIC WHICH BELONGED TO A WW1 PILOT.THE PILOTS NAME WAS CHARLES ROBERT GOODING.THE TUNIC HAS SUPERB SILK PILOT WINGS AND MEDAL RIBBONS FOR THE OBE/CBE(MILITARY)AND THE USUAL FIRST WORLD WAR MEDALS." http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3211720907&category=585 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 06:42:24 -0000 From: "malcolm BARRASS" To: Subject: Re: Tedder Message-ID: <001201c2e474$b6f8c090$50a087d9@mb> Hi Lannie It was "Without Prejustice" and deals with his whole career. Malcolm Barrass 'Air of Authority' www.rafweb.org Air Britain 18070 Outgoing mail checked and certified virus free by Norton Anti-virus ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 2:57 AM Subject: [CCI] Tedder > Does anyone know the title of the book by Arthur Tedder which deals > with his WWI experience? > Lannie > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 19:57:04 +1300 From: "Errol Martyn" To: Subject: Re: Tedder Message-ID: <20030307065716.NVPO19768.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@e.martyn> Tedder's memoir, 'With Prejudice', does not include his WWI service. There is, however, a 400+ page full biography of the great man by Dr Vincent Orange presently at the proofing stage with a publisher. It may appear late this year? Errol 4639 ---------- : From: GaGin1@aol.com : To: Multiple recipients of list : Subject: [CCI] Tedder : Date: Friday, 7 March 2003 15:57 : : Does anyone know the title of the book by Arthur Tedder which deals : with his WWI experience? : Lannie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:12:29 +1300 From: "Errol Martyn" To: Subject: Re: Tedder Message-ID: <20030307071239.KGXF12123.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@e.martyn> Lannie, Additional to my earlier message written about the same time as Malcolm's response, I have Tedder's book in front of me and it is definitely titled 'With Prejudice' (The War Memoirs of Marshal of the Royal Air Force Lord Tedder G.C.B.) and, apart from a passing reference to WWI and a short 'Overture' covering 1932-1940, concentrates exclusively on the years 1940-1945. Sadly, one will not learn anything of Tedder's WWI career from this, his only published autobiographical work. The book was published by Cassell in 1966. Errol NZ ---------- : From: malcolm BARRASS : To: Multiple recipients of list : Subject: [CCI] Re: Tedder : Date: Friday, 7 March 2003 19:43 : : Hi Lannie : : It was "Without Prejustice" and deals with his whole career. : : Malcolm Barrass : 'Air of Authority' : www.rafweb.org : Air Britain 18070 : : Outgoing mail checked and certified virus free by Norton Anti-virus : ----- Original Message ----- : From: : To: "Multiple recipients of list" : Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 2:57 AM : Subject: [CCI] Tedder : : : > Does anyone know the title of the book by Arthur Tedder which deals : > with his WWI experience? : > Lannie : > : > : ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 08:27:49 +0100 From: "Olivier Dufour" To: Subject: Re: Hythe Gun Camera Message-ID: <000d01c2e47b$0ec3ab90$3ef880d9@ariane> Hi Craig, All I have about that comes from "British Aircraft Armament Vol 2", R. Wallace Clarke, Patrick Stephens Limited, ISBN 1 85260 402 6. A good book IMHO. "Camera guns have been used as a gunnery training aid since the 1914-1918 war, when in 1916 a sight recording camera was designed at the RFC machine-gun school at Hythe in Kent. This camera gun, made by the Thornton Pickard Co. of Altringham, was similar in shape and weight to the Lewis gun. It proved to be very successful in assessing the standard of gunnery in the air. Known as the Hythe Gun Camera MkIII, it took still exposures on a 120 mm film roll. Provision was made for a multi-ring graticle and the time of exposure. The trigger, cocking action and balance were all identical to the Lewis, and a drum magazine was clipped into place. It was used mainly on Scarff ring mounts, but was also fitted onto the top wing of fighter aircrafts, controlled by a Bowden cable. The Hythe was used for gunnery training until the Williamson camera gun was adopted in 1934." The book include a drawing of the device. Hope it helps, Olivier Dufour. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Healey" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:30 PM Subject: [CCI] Hythe Gun Camera > Hi, my name is Craig Healey. I have just joined this email list. I was > wondering whether anybody knew of any information about the MkIII Hythe > Gun Camera? > > Craig Healey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 08:05:39 -0000 From: Nick Forder To: "'cci@mustang.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Hythe Gun Camera Message-ID: <059A77A01B10D611B19C00065B19D2F33F89AD@EXCHANGE> Craig I have a copy of the manual, which I can send you if you give me a postal address, and there is an example in the Science Collections here (having been made by Thornton Pickards of Altrincham). Nick -----Original Message----- From: Craig Healey [mailto:c.healey@hhsuk.com] Sent: 06 March 2003 14:30 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [CCI] Hythe Gun Camera Hi, my name is Craig Healey. I have just joined this email list. I was wondering whether anybody knew of any information about the MkIII Hythe Gun Camera? Craig Healey **************************************************************************** ****** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Statements and opinions expressed in this e-mail may not represent those of the company. 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Nick ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:32:02 +0000 From: "IAN KINGSNORTH" To: cci@mustang.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Coal Aston AAP Message-ID: >From Ian at Aeroventure and the South Yorkshire Aircraft Museum. I have some info on No2 ARD Coal Aston or Green Hill Camp or Norton Aerodrome (not to be confused with the WW2 Barage Balloon site)mainly from the book by the Norton History Group. It does have a copy of the RAF Museum photo of DH9 c1322 as well as a Fleet Strutter F7590 and fleet Cammels under repair. I also have the Water Works detailed site plan of all the sites with each building marked as to what its use was. The site was quite latge and even had a Wren narrow guage Loco to move engines from the engineering site to the erection sheds on trhe airfield >From: "Peter Wright" >Reply-To: cci@mustang.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [CCI] Re: Coal Aston AAP >Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:04:41 -0500 (EST) > >Nick, Coal Aston was the site of No 2 (Northern)Aeroplane Repair Depot, >if >this adds to the story. > >Peter W. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Nick Forder" >To: "Multiple recipients of list" >Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:15 AM >Subject: [CCI] Coal Aston AAP > > > > Does anyone know anything about the Aircraft Acceptance Park at Coal >Aston > > (Sheffield) ? > > > > I know that the initial batches of DH9 bombers made by National Aircraft > > Factory No 2 at Heaton Chapel were taken there by rail (from March >1918), > > until No 15 AAP opened at Alexandra Park (May 1918). > > > > But what of the Avros made in Miles Platting and Newton Heath ? > > > > Does anyone know if these went by road/rail to Coal Aston too ? > > > > Nick _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 21:45:27 EST From: GaGin1@aol.com To: cci@mustang.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Tedder Message-ID: <6d.bea4291.2b9ab347@aol.com> All, somehow I have come across a book on Tedder which is letters to his wife, I believe, and that is ALL I can remember about the darn thing! Lannie ------------------------------ End of CCI Digest 838 *********************