CCI Digest 788 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: e-mails by Alan Christensen 2) cahs by "John Grech" 3) Re: XIV Wing from Chipilly to Flez by "Marit Hagel/Stig Jarlevik" 4) Re: (no subject) by GaGin1@aol.com 5) Re: e-mails by GaGin1@aol.com 6) Re: FW: EF Ranger by GaGin1@aol.com 7) Re: XIV Wing from Chipilly to Flez by GaGin1@aol.com 8) Re: XIV Wing from Chipilly to Flez by GaGin1@aol.com 9) Spam by Allan Wright 10) Re: XIV Wing from Chipilly to Flez by "Marit Hagel/Stig Jarlevik" 11) Re: Spam by "John Grech" 12) Re: Spam by "Andy Kemp" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 06:42:21 -0800 (PST) From: Alan Christensen To: cci@mustang.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: e-mails Message-ID: <20030115144221.1963.qmail@web14511.mail.yahoo.com> I agree, keep the archive. My delete key works just fine! --- Errol Martyn wrote: > Ditto to that! > > Errol Martyn > NZ > 4639 > > ---------- > : From: COLIN HUSTON > : To: Multiple recipients of list > > : Subject: [CCI] Re: e-mails > : Date: Wednesday, 15 January 2003 11:54 > : > : Andy, I couldn't agree with you more. > : > : Email is such a great convenience, so I can't see > any big problem about > : hitting the Delete key — then deleting the deleted > items every so often. > : > : Like all junk mail it's impossible to stop, so if > you don't want it – > just bin it, > : don't moan about it ! Surely we've got better > uses for this List? > : > : Colin > : > : > : > I'd be interested to hear Allan's views on > archiving. I personally feel > that > : > if you put your email address into the public > domain by using it AT ALL > you > : > have to accept the risk that someone somewhere > is going to pick it up > and > : > (mis)use it. No matter what, you're going to get > some junk email. > However, > : > I've been using my own email address carefully > for some five years now, > and > : > receive minimal spam. Shouldn't say that really > - tempting fate ;-) > : > > : > My vote is to keep the archive on-line as a > resource to researchers and > : > others - I feel that this benefit out-weighs the > risk of abuse. > : > > : > What does anyone else think? > : > > : > Andy __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 19:13:43 -0000 From: "John Grech" To: "Discussion group" Subject: cahs Message-ID: <000701c2bcca$3f14d220$1cc00650@your9al5izx2s9> Does any one have a copy of the Canadian Aviation Historical Society Journal vol 29 issue 2 the article "Canadian Airmen in Russia 1918 by J Ryan". that I could have a look at ? John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:21:53 +0100 From: "Marit Hagel/Stig Jarlevik" To: Subject: Re: XIV Wing from Chipilly to Flez Message-ID: <005901c2bccb$718d16d0$262b97d4@ditt216euufe0s> Hallo again Consulting Air Britains "The Squadrons of the RAF" it has the following to say regarding the movements of the actual Squadrons to Flez: No 22: Detachment moved 1.5.1917 ex Chipilly Full unit moved 1.7.1917 ex Chipilly No 24: Complete unit 19.4.1917 ex Chipilly No 54: Complete unit 23.4.1917 ex Bertangles Air Britains "RN Aircraft serials and Units 1911-1919" has the following to say: No 1 (Naval): Went to Chipilly 17.2.1917 (14 Wing 4 Bde) and became known as No.1 (Naval) Squadron to avoid confusion with No.1 Squadron RFC. Moved to La Bellevue 11.4.1917 (13 Wing 3 Bde) >From the above we can see that No 1 (Naval) Sq did not follow 14 Wing to Flez but was instead incorporated with 13 Wing. Of course everyone knows that moving a unit is not done by just putting a date on a piece of paper. I have NO idea what made a squadron scribe feel that just the above particular dates were the appropriate ones, perhaps it was very much up to the units themselves to decide. Maybe they said one thing and headquarters another. Anyway, it is interesting to see that depending on which source we consult, there is a slight difference. To me it becomes a bit academic anyway, since if a date WOULD be important, I am sure relevant information for a particular mission would be found in PRO anyway including the base the unit made its take off. Cheers Stig ----- Original Message ----- From: "COLIN HUSTON" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 1:41 AM Subject: [CCI] XIV Wing from Chipilly to Flez > Lannie's Q: When did 14th Wing ( 22, 24, 54, Naval 1) move from Chipilly to Flez? > > Having just seen the dates and locations Stig has listed > > John, Re this query above, would you care to look in your tatty 24 Squadron > History and see if it actually mentions the date when the squadron moved, > around the end of April 1917 - it may possibly give it in there. > > Hi Colin, > After consulting my exquisite 24 squadron volume, I see that 24 Squadron was > under the control of 14 Wing between 10 February 1916 and 10 July 1917, it > moved from Chipilly for Flez on 17 April 1917. (At least there is one page > that has not fallen out!) > John > > Thanks John, > That's certainly interesting, so if Jim Harvey was also correct then it looks like > the various Squadrons moved east at different dates, with 22 Sqn not transferring > till later, as he says the Wing HQs and two Flights of 22 crossed the Somme to > Flez (Guizancourt) on 1 May. [The two villages are just a mile apart so the airfield > was probably located between them and beside the railway]. > With so many dates being given it's hard to know now exactly what did happen, > but certainly due to the Germans' scorched earth policy as they retreated > there were no buildings left standing for Wing HQ or billets, which might explain > the lack of an official date as the Squadron transfers were spread over a period. > > Anybody have any further records to add? > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:09:13 EST From: GaGin1@aol.com To: cci@mustang.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: (no subject) Message-ID: I think as it stands we have more or less definite datees for Sqns. 22 and 24 viz. their own squadron histories, and a presumptive date of the 23rd for 54 and Naval 1 viz. Any's quote on Halley? Lannie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:11:11 EST From: GaGin1@aol.com To: cci@mustang.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: e-mails Message-ID: <128.206d10a7.2b571a5f@aol.com> I am always in favor of archives being available. Lannie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:16:07 EST From: GaGin1@aol.com To: cci@mustang.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: FW: EF Ranger Message-ID: <1d7.105de.2b571b87@aol.com> I'd send a query to WWI Aero. Lannie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:23:11 EST From: GaGin1@aol.com To: cci@mustang.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: XIV Wing from Chipilly to Flez Message-ID: <178.152c7428.2b571d2f@aol.com> Thanks everyone for ppitching in! Lannie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:41:36 EST From: GaGin1@aol.com To: cci@mustang.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: XIV Wing from Chipilly to Flez Message-ID: <86.24a567d4.2b572180@aol.com> Dear Folks, Yes I know Naval 1 peeled off and wewnt to Bellevue; Naval 6 enters the picture and goes to Flez as part of the 14th Wing, and do not have a date for THAT. Another question: does anybody know any works about Training Wings? Lannie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:54:04 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: cci@mustang.sr.unh.edu Subject: Spam Message-ID: <200301152054.PAA62681@mustang.sr.unh.edu> I have not heard from any of the list members that they are opposed to making the CCI list so that only subscribers can post. I'll try to make that change in the next day or two. Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:02:08 +0100 From: "Marit Hagel/Stig Jarlevik" To: Subject: Re: XIV Wing from Chipilly to Flez Message-ID: <009101c2bce1$c0039940$262b97d4@ditt216euufe0s> Hallo again No 6 (Naval) Sq went to Chipilly as part of 14 Wing on 11.4.1917 It went to Flez 26.4.1917 The Air Britain books probably contain what you need regarding Training Units B Rgds Stig ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:42 PM Subject: [CCI] Re: XIV Wing from Chipilly to Flez > Dear Folks, > Yes I know Naval 1 peeled off and wewnt to Bellevue; Naval 6 enters the > picture and goes to Flez as part of the 14th Wing, and do not have a date for > THAT. > Another question: does anybody know any works about Training Wings? > Lannie > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:22:52 -0000 From: "John Grech" To: Subject: Re: Spam Message-ID: <000b01c2bce4$a52a66a0$1cc00650@your9al5izx2s9> Thanks Allan John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Wright" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:54 PM Subject: [CCI] Spam > I have not heard from any of the list members that they are opposed to making > the CCI list so that only subscribers can post. I'll try to make that > change in the next day or two. > > Al > > ============================================================================ === > Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside > University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- > Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org > Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org > ============================================================================ === > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:14:56 +0000 From: "Andy Kemp" To: cci@mustang.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Spam Message-ID: <20030116081456.79225.qmail@mail.com> Many thanks Al! Andy Subject: [CCI] Spam I have not heard from any of the list members that they are opposed to making the CCI list so that only subscribers can post. I'll try to make that change in the next day or two. Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== andy.kemp@mail.com www.crossandcockade.com -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife ------------------------------ End of CCI Digest 788 *********************