WWI Digest 5068 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Hustad's Latest by "Stuart L. Malone" 2) Re: Aluminium dope. What paints do you use for this? Please help by "Mike Muth" 3) Re: new render by MARK MILLER 4) Re: new render by "Bob Pearson" 5) Re: Site update:New modeller by Clay W Fulcher 6) RE: Modelling as a career (not on the catwalk...) by Clay W Fulcher 7) Re: Thinning Humbrol by Clay W Fulcher 8) Re: Site update:Albatros W4, early version by Clay W Fulcher 9) Re: Pfalz Report by "Pedro Soares" 10) Re: Pfalz Report by "Shane Weier" 11) Re: Pfalz Report by 12) Re: Pfalz Report by "Pedro Soares" 13) Special Hobby PSAD VII RFC/US Markings Query by Sean Brian Kirby 14) Re: Special Hobby PSAD VII RFC/US Markings Query by "Steven Perry" 15) Re: Special Hobby PSAD VII RFC/US Markings Query by Sean Brian Kirby 16) Re: Special Hobby PSAD VII RFC/US Markings Query by "charles robinson" 17) 网海茫茫,相识是缘.QQ:214299733 Time:14:13:07 by wwi@sinanet.com 18) Camel details by jeff_roby 19) Twobobs new policy - who wins and who loses by "Michael Kendix" 20) Ыㄢ─玻穨 , ノVoIP秈︽禣硄癟莱ノよ by "cfd92byipur9" 21) Re: Twobobs new policy - who wins and who loses by 22) Red's my colour! by 23) Mistake or......? by 24) Re: Twobobs new policy - who wins and who loses by "David & Robin" 25) Re: Red's my colour! by "Michael Kendix" 26) Re: Twobobs new policy - who wins and who loses by "Stuart L. Malone" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 09:07:04 -0600 From: "Stuart L. Malone" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Hustad's Latest Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20030308085455.00b01220@pop-server.kc.rr.com> Steve should probably be banned from all competitions;) I had the pleasure of meeting Steve a couple of times just before he moved away from Kansas City. Very friendly, and extremely complimentary of my work which pales drastically in comparison. Another beautiful job on the GIIIa, as always. Stuart L. Malone At 01:39 PM 3/7/03 -0500, you wrote: > > On the Aerohistorians site, they have devoted a page to Steve Hustad, his > > work and his workshop. > > http://www.aerohistorians.org/members/stevehustad/steve.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 11:10:18 -0500 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Aluminium dope. What paints do you use for this? Please help Message-ID: <008601c2e58d$372adaa0$a4d2bacc@ptdprolog.net> Aluminium dope. What paints do you use for this? Please help SNJ, unpolished. > Al I also like this, along with Model Masters Non-buffing metalizer: Aluminum Plate. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 08:39:10 -0800 (PST) From: MARK MILLER To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: new render Message-ID: <20030308163910.24909.qmail@web80306.mail.yahoo.com> --- Diego Fernetti wrote: > Excellent Mark! > Once again, your renderings are on my comoputer desktop! > Great work, and the notes have shown me that I may even try > this kind of > modelling (if I were capable to learn this b***y 3D Studio > softw.) > Regards > D. Diego Glad you like the render. My apologise for the current state of that tech notes section. It still needs a lot of work. But, i hope it might be of some use to anybody interested in this type of work. will have it revised soon ;-) BTW - lots of good tutorials out there for 3DS Eric Thanks The Camel was always intended to be an "External features only" kind of model. But I did decide to input some cockpit details. and then it kinda started to grow ;-) Can't vouch for the exactness because most of it is just eyeballed from photos, but it might be of some use to modelers. I also still need to input the constantinesco interupter gear for the Vickers, which might also be of some use. BTW - sent this note out to Eric about 2 hours ago - but I think it got lost somewhere - will probably show up in a week or so ;-) Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 08:37:45 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: new render Message-ID: <104714361701@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com> "I hate you" Very nice stuff ... as soon as I get around to it I plan to get at least one of the Albatros prints you sent framed. Bob ---------- >From: MARK MILLER >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] new render >Date: Sat, Mar 8, 2003, 4:37 am > > Hi > I just posted a new render of of 2 Camels from 70 squad > Still needs some post processing work, but it looks pretty good. > I still have some details to add, but I think the maps are > responding well, and I am pretty happy with this interpretation > of PC10. > http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Miller/render/Camel/camel70.jpg > > Also added a tech notes section that I have been working on. > I decided to break it down into sections: > Preliminary work, modeling, mapping, rendering, post processing. > > Currently, only have the prelim, and modeling sections done. And > these I will probably have to tweak. > But there is some content here that might be of interest. > I will be updating/revising/completing it soon ;-) > > http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Miller/render/technotes/index.htm > > Mark > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:39:57 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Site update:New modeller Message-ID: <20030308.143957.1276.0.mtngoat01@juno.com> It is in the box, where it must stay until I am courageous enough to build it. --Clay On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:17:32 -0500 (EST) "Carlos Carreira" writes: > Clay, > > Very nice collection you have. But... were is the Caproni? > > Carlos > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:47:39 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Modelling as a career (not on the catwalk...) Message-ID: <20030308.144740.1276.2.mtngoat01@juno.com> Or win the Reader's Digest Sweepstakes. I sent them a complaint because I've been sending my entry in for years and I still haven't won. What's up with that? Clay On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:03:03 -0500 (EST) "Nigel Rayner" writes: > Oh to be retired or independently wealthy..... > > Cheers, > > Nigel R ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:51:11 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Thinning Humbrol Message-ID: <20030308.145112.1276.3.mtngoat01@juno.com> I lift my jug of White Lightning. --Clay On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:51:37 -0500 (EST) Crawford Neil writes: > /Neil C. > > PS, Cheers to Pedor, Pedro, Shane, Shane, and anyone else lifting a > glass of red, > and lets hope it smells better than the above mix! ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 15:00:45 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Site update:Albatros W4, early version Message-ID: <20030308.150046.1276.4.mtngoat01@juno.com> Fantastic job Paul. Clay On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 12:17:54 -0500 (EST) Sanjeev writes: > Paul Thompson sent in photos of his Albatros W4, early version. > See > http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Thompson_P/Albatros/index.html#Alw4 > or news. > Sincerely, > WWI Web Admin > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 23:19:07 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Pfalz Report Message-ID: <001d01c2e5c9$1ea34940$06465451@netcabo.pt> > Pfalz is finished after 15 hour no sleep session. > > Just made the entry cut this afternoon and it arrived at the contest with a > still sticky topcoat. Well done Neil. I did finish an albatros DIII too yesterday evening for a contest today. > > it now sits on the "modified Medium Scale" section table. It looks okay but > is up against all 1/48 scale modified aircraft. A tough ask. (most of our > contests here in Melb don't have bi plane splits) Neither ours. My 3 OT are competing against all types of military airplanes up to and including 1/72 and this means props, jets, bipes, rigged noon rigged etc. > > Some good OT displays and a few models but nothing spectacular (except the > Pfalz of course!) Not much on my side also. In fact all the OT aicraft entries are mine and from my friend Francisco who has entered a fokker E-III and a smashing Thulin, converted from a Morane kit (I'm sure he got the inspiration for it from seing Phillipe's masterpiece). apart from that there are a spad and a nieup in post war portuguese colours (1/72) and that's it. > > I'm off to bed now..... good choice, I might follow you now ;-) Regards and good luck Pedro > > All the Best > > Neil > > contest results monday - pics later > > NB zzzzzzzzzzzz > NL zzzzzzzzzzzzz > NE zzzzzzzzzzzzz > > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 09:28:42 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Pfalz Report Message-ID: Pedro says: >Not much on my side also. In fact all the OT aicraft entries are mine and >from my friend Francisco who has entered a fokker E-III and a smashing >Thulin, converted from a Morane kit (I'm sure he got the inspiration for it >from seing Phillipe's masterpiece). I take it this means that Brent didn't get the Halbie to you in time :-( Ah well. Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones.燝o to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 00:09:22 +0000 From: To: Subject: Re: Pfalz Report Message-ID: <1047168562.3e6a8632f3ea9@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Shane Weier : > Pedro says: > > >Not much on my side also. In fact all the OT aicraft entries are mine > and > >from my friend Francisco who has entered a fokker E-III and a smashing > >Thulin, converted from a Morane kit (I'm sure he got the inspiration > for it > >from seing Phillipe's masterpiece). > > I take it this means that Brent didn't get the Halbie to you in time > > :-( > > Ah well. > Hey, if he wants to send it to Scotland, I'll enter it in the Scottish Nats on 26th/27th April! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 00:19:30 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Pfalz Report Message-ID: <006d01c2e5d1$8d6dbce0$06465451@netcabo.pt> Shane, Dave, Unfortunately no. I still haven't got it :-(. But there is a nother good competition coming up in September. So if Brent could send it to Dave, he'd enter it in Scotland and then he'd send it to me for me to enter it at Oporto in September.... If Brent, on the other hand has already mailed it to me, I'd forward it as soon as I get it to Dave and then Dave would send it abck to me again.... Brent, are you there, mate? Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 12:11 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Pfalz Report > > Quoting Shane Weier : > > > Pedro says: > > > > >Not much on my side also. In fact all the OT aicraft entries are mine > > and > > >from my friend Francisco who has entered a fokker E-III and a smashing > > >Thulin, converted from a Morane kit (I'm sure he got the inspiration > > for it > > >from seing Phillipe's masterpiece). > > > > I take it this means that Brent didn't get the Halbie to you in time > > > > :-( > > > > Ah well. > > > Hey, if he wants to send it to Scotland, I'll enter it in the Scottish Nats on > 26th/27th April! > > Dave > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 17:00:20 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: WWI List Subject: Special Hobby PSAD VII RFC/US Markings Query Message-ID: <20030309010020.9111.qmail@web14802.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, all... What markings are available in Special Hobby's new RFC and US SPAD VII? Thanks in advance - Sean Post-Script: Y'all enjoy Melbourne, ya' hear? :) ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:07:55 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Special Hobby PSAD VII RFC/US Markings Query Message-ID: <003a01c2e5d8$5154be00$65a8a8c0@tampabay.rr.com> A-8874 23 Sqdn RFC, 103rd Aero Sqdn (Biddle), SPA 158 (Stanovsky) HTH sp > Hello, all... > > What markings are available in Special Hobby's new RFC > and US SPAD VII? Thanks in advance - > > > Sean > > Post-Script: Y'all enjoy Melbourne, ya' hear? :) > > ===== > www.pitpass.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 17:23:26 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Special Hobby PSAD VII RFC/US Markings Query Message-ID: <20030309012326.33256.qmail@web14808.mail.yahoo.com> --- Steven Perry wrote: > > A-8874 23 Sqdn RFC, 103rd Aero Sqdn (Biddle), SPA > 158 (Stanovsky) So - there are but three (3) a/c? Thanks. I will be getting the French-Italian. (Guynemer!) Oh, Steve, I saw something of yours online the other day, and I recall its being astoundingly beautiful - but I can't remember what it is. (How insulting is that?) Wait... wait... oh! It was your 1:28 Frank Luke SPAD XIII. (I spelled it PSAD, yet-again, but this time caught myself...) Man, that thing was lovely, with a capital "L." Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 21:19:03 -0600 From: "charles robinson" To: Subject: Re: Special Hobby PSAD VII RFC/US Markings Query Message-ID: <001401c2e5ea$a39a46a0$5fc10ad0@tomei> Sean, On Modelling Madness under "Whats New", for 28 Febuary is a scan of the decal sheet the RFC SPAD VII. http://www.modelingmadness.com/ Ohio Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Brian Kirby" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 7:01 PM Subject: [WWI] Special Hobby PSAD VII RFC/US Markings Query > Hello, all... > > What markings are available in Special Hobby's new RFC > and US SPAD VII? Thanks in advance - > > > Sean > > Post-Script: Y'all enjoy Melbourne, ya' hear? :) > > ===== > www.pitpass.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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I'm in the midst of building a Proctor Camel (1/6th scale), building for display, not to fly. So far, so good, said the man as he plummeted past the 20th floor. Question is on the aileron control horns and cables. In many pictures, I see the wire going from the wing to the control horn and then to the back of the aileron, where it seems to go into the wire that connects the ailerons top and bottom. In a significant number of others, it just goes from the wing to the control horn. The wire connecting the ailerons is a separate matter. Are both correct? Or are the pictures off, or the extension of the wire not showing up? If both are correct, what is the significance of the difference? Okay, that's three questions. Any clarification would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Jeff Roby Jersey City (201) 656-3267 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 13:07:30 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Twobobs new policy - who wins and who loses Message-ID: Though not specific to WWI modelling, I would think the topics of product quality and availabilty are of interest to any modeller. So, Hyperscale has a link to Twobobs site with its new stated policy on its product sales conditions at: http://64.124.220.115/twobobs/distribution.htm I think folks should consider this issue carefully. It's a complex issue but my consumer-oriented gut-feeling is that consumers will end up paying more out of their pocket for less product. On the other hand, it would probably lead to more variety of product and perhaps better quality. I have some sympathy with some storefront vendors - it's true that a lot of consumers "free ride" by going there to look at products then ordering the product for less on line (Hold your hand up if you've never done it!). On the other hand, E-business gets the product to more people than would otherwise have access. So, if you live 200 miles from a storefront vendor, you'll have to order from Twobobs direct or from someone who has both a storefront and mail order. Either way, the customer ends up paying the mark-up that is required to maintain a storefront overhead. 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It's a complex > issue > but my consumer-oriented gut-feeling is that consumers will end up > paying > more out of their pocket for less product. It amounts to little less than retail price maintenance - price fixing. The gist seems to be 'we want to protect the small hobby shop from the evil distributors, so we'll only sell to those who sell from shop fronts and charge what we say. In the UK, they'd probably be open to an anti-competitive practices charge for openly stating such a policy (that you won't sell to people who charge less than your MRP). Can't beleive the US doesn't have similar laws . That said, TwoBobs decals are probably the best I've seen, just wish they liked 1/72nd OT stuff! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 14:06:29 +0000 From: To: Subject: Red's my colour! Message-ID: <1047218789.3e6b4a65d08c3@netmail.pipex.net> http://www.thebicyclingguitarist.net/studies/colorphotos.htm Opinions? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 14:18:11 +0000 From: To: Subject: Mistake or......? Message-ID: <1047219491.3e6b4d23c18bc@netmail.pipex.net> >From the Great Models weekly update http://www.greatmodels.com/main/030308.htm ot stuff snipped, but this is what they say! 1/32.....Battle Axe Fokker E III.... In 1/48, the list is too long but here's are few samples........... Roden DFS 230, I-15, Sopwith Tabloid and Schneider,........ Eduard Lysander Mk.III, Sopwith Camel, SE-5a, Macchi M5, Airfix Nieuport IV.....Academy ....Airco DH 5 and DH 9, Gnat and Westland Wapiti I want to see an Airfix Nie IV even in 1/48th!! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 09:13:32 -0500 From: "David & Robin" To: Subject: Re: Twobobs new policy - who wins and who loses Message-ID: <004301c2e646$11f58f00$92dfd9d1@gpfarm> Well, This means that my local hobby shop will not be getting any business from me for TwoBob's decals. I doubt that I will ever order enough for him to even meet the minimum for an account with TwoBob's, and there simply isn't enough local business in after market decals and such to make it worth his while to stock them as other than a special order item. By not going through the distribution chain I wonder how many smaller hobby shops will be unable or unwilling to stock or carry TwoBob's decals. In the end I suspect it will be the very small storefront hobbyshops that TwoBob's is trying to protect who will lose out. Pity. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 14:21:08 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Red's my colour! Message-ID: >From: >Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 09:07:41 -0500 (EST) > >http://www.thebicyclingguitarist.net/studies/colorphotos.htm > >Opinions? I like the wrapping on the propeller. Also the dog looks pretty good. Is there a fair amount of detail issing from the red plane's wings' underside? In general, I like these photos because they give you a view, however imperfect, of what it was really like. Looking at monochrome gives an air of unreality to me. Colour makes them look like real people and real machines. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 08:16:20 -0600 From: "Stuart L. Malone" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Twobobs new policy - who wins and who loses Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20030309080943.00a9cf00@pop-server.kc.rr.com> I have seen this with my one of my other hobbies; fountain pens. Mont Blanc started it, only selling through their own boutiques, and "bricks and mortar" dealers. The dealers could advertise online, but are not allowed to give prices. I have heard Omas has done this as well, and Parker will not let authorized retailers discount. As Dave stated, I haven't seen anything from TwoBobs for teeny-weenies anyway. Do they produce anything for Duplo-scale? Stuart L. Malone At 09:06 AM 3/9/03 -0500, you wrote: >Quoting Michael Kendix : > > > > > I think folks should consider this issue carefully. It's a complex > > issue > > but my consumer-oriented gut-feeling is that consumers will end up > > paying > > more out of their pocket for less product. > >It amounts to little less than retail price maintenance - price fixing. > >The gist seems to be 'we want to protect the small hobby shop from the evil >distributors, so we'll only sell to those who sell from shop fronts and >charge >what we say. > > In the UK, they'd probably be open to an anti-competitive practices > charge for >openly stating such a policy (that you won't sell to people who charge less >than your MRP). Can't beleive the US doesn't have similar laws . > >That said, TwoBobs decals are probably the best I've seen, just wish they >liked >1/72nd OT stuff! > >Dave ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 5068 **********************