WWI Digest 5064 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) A Belgian cowl color question by MFlake@TarrantCounty.com 2) Re: SE5a help by "Shane Weier" 3) Re: Albatros panels by "Shane Weier" 4) Re: On-Line Gallery Submission Tool by Paul Thompson 5) Re: SE5a help by "Michael Kendix" 6) accessory aid by "Bart Sawyer" 7) RE: models by "Liefferinckx Frederic" 8) Re: On-Line Gallery Submission Tool PROBLEMS??? by "Thomas Solinski" 9) Re: MrSpotty=?ISO-8859-1?B?gQ==?= by Ken Schmitt 10) Re: SE5a help by "Mike & Sharon Alvarado" 11) Re: A Belgian cowl color question by "Mike Muth" 12) Re: On-Line Gallery Submission Tool by "Pedro Soares" 13) RE: A Belgian cowl color question by "Philippe Spriesterbach" 14) Re: SE5a help by "Michael Kendix" 15) Spa 94 Question by "Mike Muth" 16) Re: Spa 94 Question by "Bob Pearson" 17) They put me on MTV! by "Amanda Perez" 18) Re: Spa 94 Question by "Mike Muth" 19) Re: SE5a help by "Michael Kendix" 20) Re: A Belgian cowl color question by "Shane Weier" 21) Re: On-Line Gallery Submission Tool by "Shane Weier" 22) Re: SE5a help by "Shane Weier" 23) Re: SE5a help by "Shane Weier" 24) Re: Shadow in dioramas by Crawford Neil 25) Re: On-Line Gallery Submission Tool by "Shane Weier" 26) Re: SE5a help by "Shane Weier" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:49:09 -0600 From: MFlake@TarrantCounty.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: A Belgian cowl color question Message-ID: <71EA257E03C4D511B8ED00065B04BF9404AF3B21@itcrex001.tarrantcounty.com> I'm working on a couple of 1/48 SPADs right now, one of which will be Belgian S/Lt Cislette's mount courtesy of Aeromaster decals. The sources I have are somewhat contradictory regarding the cowl. For instance, Bob Pearson's "Colours & Markings" CD has a profile of this aircraft with a red and white striped cowl, the ARCO-Aircam "SPAD Scouts" book color profile shows a two-tone olive drab over gray to match the two-tone paint job on the rest of the airframe. However a black-and-white photo in the ARCO-Aircam book shows the cowl to be a solid color and it looks to be lighter than olive drab, but darker than the pale gray of the fuselage. The cowl color is carried up onto the front of the rocker-arm covers. Keep in mind that the "yellow" wheels in this photograph are almost white, so we're not talking about the type of film that turns yellow into a dark shade of gray. Bob lists the Aerodrome Modeler "Plumage #5" as his reference. His profile also has red and white stripes, while the Aeromaster decals and the ARCO-Aircam book has the stripes in red and yellow. Is there anyone out there in list land that can shed some light on this subject aircraft and the color of its cowl? Marc Flake ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 06:53:52 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SE5a help Message-ID: Michael >This is what I was concerned about. I need to be able to know what it >would look like when you peered in else there's simply an open space. > >Did the Blue Max kit provide engine and oil tank? No. Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 06:55:58 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Albatros panels Message-ID: >I am a big admirer of Toko/Roden products having built the following: > bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....... ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 22:00:48 +0100 From: Paul Thompson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: On-Line Gallery Submission Tool Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030305215133.00a62c30@pop.xs4all.nl> Shane, I had no problem cutting the struts off and cleaning them up either, but on the Alb. W4 one of the float connecting struts was already broken when I opened the box, and my own ham-handedness zapped 1 of the interplanes while painting. On the other hand I had loads of problems with the Gotha GIII struts snapping, so I guess that batch of plastic was a tad more brittle. Or I was just having a bad day (OTOH I did manage to use all the Gotha struts after some repair work). On the whole, I'm much happier to have Roden make near-scale section struts and details than needing to thin more robust but out of scale items. More power to them (especially now they're re-dressing the Central Powers/ Allies ratio ). Paul T. nd Kaapse Vreugd. (It's red, it's wine, it's...well...cheap). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:23:39 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SE5a help Message-ID: Shane: So if you put in the oil atnk and engine, how did you know what it looked like? Michael >From: "Shane Weier" >Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 15:55:36 -0500 (EST) > >Michael > > >This is what I was concerned about. I need to be able to know what it > >would look like when you peered in else there's simply an open space. > > > >Did the Blue Max kit provide engine and oil tank? > >No. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 03 13:45:41 GMT From: "Bart Sawyer" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: accessory aid Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --BDBXAZLSZCUXUSLAPYIEF Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit
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--BDBXAZLSZCUXUSLAPYIEF-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:03:43 +0100 From: "Liefferinckx Frederic" To: Subject: RE: models Message-ID: <000e01c2e363$2f559300$db44fea9@leif> I hope,because some manufacturers promise some nice model and he's just promised; we have waiting some year to have a good Camel(Eduard case)now we wait to see the Mirage production,regards Fred. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 6:58 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: models > Fred, no moaning! Roden 1 1/2 Strutters are available, the 'photo' Bre 14 is > out, Hi Tech is supposed to release a Voisin 10, Aeroclub , a DH-9, Mirage is > planning 2 Halberstadt Cl.2's, and 4 different Hannover Cl's, and Jeager > (resin) is to produce an Alb. C.XII, a Junkers Cl.I, and an AEG J.I, all in > 1/48, plus (ot alert) Classic Airframes is supposed to do a Hawker Hart, we 2 > holer fans have never had it so good! > > -- > Merrill > Your Madness May Vary > > Well,well Diego you're a lucky you and all the people who like the 1/72 but > > for me this year is a year of rumor i'still waiting for a Spad XI orXVI or > > another multiplace(german or allied) in 1/48.Regards Fred > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Diego Ferneti" > > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 8:03 PM > > Subject: [WWI] RE: models > > > > > > > Hi Fred! > > > > Hi the gang,yes it's me again with 2 or more questions,some people know > > > > what's the new model for this year,and when the Breguet chronicle book > > is > > > on > > > > the market, > > > > > > Well, in 1/72 you have the new roden SE5as, Albatros D.V and D.Va, Bristol > > > Fighter and the Felixstowe. On Eduard, we have the Fokker monoplanes (of > > yes > > > that's from 2002) the Junkers J.1 and now the DH2, maybe this year a new > > > Spad XIII. Still waiting for the Camel. Pegasus promised a Spad VII, a SE5 > > > and Junkers Cl.1. Must be a quite expensive year this 2003! > > > > No news here about the Breguet, but you know how these things are... any > > > given days you have it in all the catalogs! > > > D. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 16:33:00 -0600 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: Re: On-Line Gallery Submission Tool PROBLEMS??? Message-ID: <007401c2e367$2dba0ea0$9eb40c44@ok.cox.net> Thank you list leader and Sanjeev for all your work and the explanation So does my 1919 Polish Nieu 23 with naked Diana on the side count as "naked cheerleaders." a still recovering MrT ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 16:42:09 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Re: MrSpotty=?ISO-8859-1?B?gQ==?= Message-ID: Dave- > The pigment/colour is very thin and patchy. > > Any tips? Is it me? yes. it's you. Did you mix it well before the fall...? -always takes 2 coats -don't gun it on "2 thin coats are better than one thick one (wot doesn't cover)." honest, Mr F, that's all they is to it. Citadel is thicker than MrKit (can't BigKev come out with a paint line??). I brush these. So it is possible. Are you airbrushing? Ken off list if want. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 17:59:36 -0500 From: "Mike & Sharon Alvarado" To: Subject: Re: SE5a help Message-ID: <01f901c2e36a$e5d957e0$8a73c3d0@gatewayzztl6sw> No, I scratched a Hispano engine and oil tank, as well as a deflector plate and fuselage framing in that area in the Blue Max kit. maybe that why Iv'e burned out on the kit. I still haven't decided on a final paint scheme for the damn thing. After all that work i want a spectacular scheme (yea sure this is a British aircraft) on an aircraft without bulged cockpt openings, no head rest, cut down exhaust pipes and short chord elevators. In other words I want a stock Hisso powered SE5a with a decent paint scheme. Alvie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Kendix" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:30 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: SE5a help > >From: "Shane Weier" > > > >And you can see the oil tank and engine rear through it IIRC from when I > >made my BM kit > > This is what I was concerned about. I need to be able to know what it would > look like when you peered in else there's simply an open space. > > Did the Blue Max kit provide engine and oil tank? > > >*Excellent* superdetail opportunity for the AMS afflicted. > > Michael > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:28:06 -0500 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: A Belgian cowl color question Message-ID: <014501c2e36e$e0bebee0$4047bacc@ptdprolog.net> Above Flankers Fields mentions that the fuselage stripe is yellow bordered by a red strip on each side. The photo doesn't show the cowling, unfortunately. hth, but I doubt it ;-)) Mike Muth The sources I > have are somewhat contradictory regarding the cowl. > > For instance, Bob Pearson's "Colours & Markings" CD has a profile of this > aircraft with a red and white striped cowl, the ARCO-Aircam "SPAD Scouts" > book color profile shows a two-tone olive drab over gray to match the > two-tone paint job on the rest of the airframe. However a black-and-white > photo in the ARCO-Aircam book shows the cowl to be a solid color and it > looks to be lighter than olive drab, but darker than the pale gray of the > fuselage. The cowl color is carried up onto the front of the rocker-arm > covers. Keep in mind that the "yellow" wheels in this photograph are almost > white, so we're not talking about the type of film that turns yellow into a > dark shade of gray. > > Bob lists the Aerodrome Modeler "Plumage #5" as his reference. His profile > also has red and white stripes, while the Aeromaster decals and the > ARCO-Aircam book has the stripes in red and yellow. Is there anyone out > there in list land that can shed some light on this subject aircraft and the > color of its cowl? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 00:30:19 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: On-Line Gallery Submission Tool Message-ID: <002201c2e377$917b8580$2a475451@netcabo.pt> > Shane, > > I had no problem cutting the struts off and cleaning them up either, but on > the Alb. W4 one of the float connecting struts was already broken when I > opened the box, Do I detect a trend here? Same happened with my W4 kit. and my own ham-handedness zapped 1 of the interplanes while > painting. On the other hand I had loads of problems with the Gotha GIII > struts snapping, and I can confirm this. I had never seen anything like it. You cut, you break. so I guess that batch of plastic was a tad more brittle. > Or I was just having a bad day (OTOH I did manage to use all the Gotha > struts after some repair work). Luckier than me. > > On the whole, I'm much happier to have Roden make near-scale section struts > and details than needing to thin more robust but out of scale items. That's precisely what I think too. The detail on the Albatrosses is amazing More > power to them (especially now they're re-dressing the Central Powers/ > Allies ratio ). Yyp. Pedro> > > Paul T. > > > nd Kaapse Vreugd. (It's red, it's wine, it's...well...cheap). > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 01:47:25 +0100 From: "Philippe Spriesterbach" To: "Wwi" , "MFlake" Subject: RE: A Belgian cowl color question Message-ID: Mark, Let me one or two day to checking my references and I will send you what I've. IIRC, I've one or two good pictures of this aircraft. Regards Philippe Spriesterbach http://users.skynet.be/fa233213 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 03:29:54 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SE5a help Message-ID: >From: pfalzdvii@att.net >Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 00:31:10 -0500 (EST) > >There is a picture of the opening and the deflector plate,and a view >of >the hole looking forward,pictures #71 and #74 on page 31 of the >Datafile >Special. >HTH Merrill: So it is! Excellent! Thanks. I am terrible at trying to discern exactly where each photo is on the plane. That is precisely what I was trying to find. Michael _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 22:47:51 -0500 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Spa 94 Question Message-ID: <015001c2e393$29eeaac0$4047bacc@ptdprolog.net> I have started the SPAD VII. I want to go with the 5 color scheme and the black pennant with grim reaper in white. Bob's profile shows it as red and white. There also seems to be a bunch of different numbers: 8, 5 and 6, all in white. I've searched high and low and can't find a photo of this plane in my sources. Anyone got it? Bob lists as a source C&C (GB) 9/3: 121 if that helps. tia Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 20:28:27 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Spa 94 Question Message-ID: <104692567801@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com> It's black and white. ... I thought I had corrected it .. guess not. Bob ---------- >From: "Mike Muth" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Spa 94 Question >Date: Wed, Mar 5, 2003, 7:46 pm > > I have started the SPAD VII. I want to go with the 5 color scheme and the > black pennant with grim reaper in white. Bob's profile shows it as red and > white. There also seems to be a bunch of different numbers: 8, 5 and 6, all > in white. I've searched high and low and can't find a photo of this plane in > my sources. Anyone got it? Bob lists as a source C&C (GB) 9/3: 121 if that > helps. > tia > Mike Muth > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 22:44:43 -0800 From: "Amanda Perez" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: They put me on MTV! Message-ID: <3E555149006954EC@mta2.wss.scd.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) Let's send Amanda Perez and her new video "Angel" to the top of MTV's Total Request Live! Thanks for helping Amanda get to the top, please try to vote before the week is out, and you can see the results on MTV's TRL. Just click on the link below or paste it into your browser's Address window and hit enter to vote for Amanda's video at MTV.com. http://www.mtv.com/onair/trl/votevideo.jhtml ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 08:10:46 -0500 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Spa 94 Question Message-ID: <015501c2e3e1$cdab5660$4047bacc@ptdprolog.net> Bob Thanks. Anybody out there got a photo? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Pearson To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:42 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Spa 94 Question > It's black and white. ... I thought I had corrected it .. guess not. > > Bob > > ---------- > >From: "Mike Muth" > >To: Multiple recipients of list > >Subject: [WWI] Spa 94 Question > >Date: Wed, Mar 5, 2003, 7:46 pm > > > > > I have started the SPAD VII. I want to go with the 5 color scheme and the > > black pennant with grim reaper in white. Bob's profile shows it as red and > > white. There also seems to be a bunch of different numbers: 8, 5 and 6, all > > in white. I've searched high and low and can't find a photo of this plane in > > my sources. Anyone got it? Bob lists as a source C&C (GB) 9/3: 121 if that > > helps. > > tia > > Mike Muth > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 13:17:17 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SE5a help Message-ID: Thanks to everyone who helped with answers to my question about the SE5a. I think I have worked out what I am going to do now. Michael _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 23:21:22 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: A Belgian cowl color question Message-ID: Mark says: Keep in mind that the "yellow" wheels in this photograph are almost >white, so we're not talking about the type of film that turns yellow into a >dark shade of gray. > NOT that I'm suggesting you're wrong but it *might* easily still be ortho film. If the yellow is a cool yellow (greenish as in lemon yellow) there wouldn't be much if any shift. OTOH a warm yellow (reddish as in chrome yellow) is greatly affected. Think of the rainbow with the gradual change between orange, through yellow to green. As the light striking the film gets further to the violet end the film is more sensitive. Through the middle range it's more or less equally sensitive, and at the violet end it's so sensitive it burns out the negative. * * * ************ * * * ************ Red Orange Yellow Green Blue Indigo Violet You can see that the orangish yellow won't affect the negative (so it remains clear and the photo is black) while the greenish yellow is beyond the knee and in the normal range of the ortho film Incidentally, the curve isn't really quite that flat across the middle (ascii grphic y'know) and the only difference for panchro film is the flat bit in the middle extends further to the left. Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 23:39:25 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: On-Line Gallery Submission Tool Message-ID: Paul says: >On the other hand I had loads of problems with the Gotha GIII >struts snapping, so I guess that batch of plastic was a tad more brittle. >Or I was just having a bad day (OTOH I did manage to use all the Gotha >struts after some repair work). No, I think you're right about the batches. I suspect that they don't have such closely specified supplies of styrene as (for example) Eduard and minor variations in their supplies affect the quality of the model. It's interesting that polystyrene is hard and clear and brittle in the pure form and high impact polystyrene (which is what is used in most injection models) *must* have some percentage of plasticisers which can then vary to make the plastic range from less brittle (and softer) to more brittle (and harder) The harder and more brittle, the sharper the detail that can be captured *but* the parts get tougher to get out of the mould in one perfect piece. All that plasticiser (and pigments etc) also affects the melting point, how well it flows, how fast it hardens and so on, which affects how big the sprues need to be, the pressure used in moulding, the way the parts are laid out and so on. This is a MAJOR balancing act, which we tend to forget sometimes. Me, I reckon it's magic >On the whole, I'm much happier to have Roden make near-scale section >struts and details than needing to thin more robust but out of scale >items. More power to them Indeed. I wonder if they made a business decision - "We'll mould detail even Tamiya wouldn't try, and risk the kit being more brittle. Paul T and StE will be dead chuffed" or whether Josef the Engineer looked at the plastic they could buy and said "Hey - with this stuff you patternmakers can do some seriously fine detail" so they just went ahead and did it...... Shane (real chuffed, and waiting for my Felixstowe) ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 23:41:54 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SE5a help Message-ID: Michael >So if you put in the oil atnk and engine, how did you know what it looked >like? >From the pics in the Datafile Special IIRC, plus others of the same type of engine *out* of the aircraft. I think Merrill already pointed out where they were. If not, I'll look them out for you (but I don't have a scanner....) Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 23:46:25 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SE5a help Message-ID: Alvie says: >I scratched a Hispano engine and oil tank, as well as a deflector plate >andfuselage framing in that area in the Blue Max kit. maybe that why Iv'e >burned out on the kit. That's pretty much exactly what I added (at home again, so I can look) except that I finished the model and a couple of weeks later I dropped it. The extra work I did is the only reason it isn't in the trash (but several years later it isn't repaired either :-( ) Shane (escaped from Sydney, and Lorna, tired but otherwise none the worse for it) ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 14:50:54 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Shadow in dioramas Message-ID: Picking up an old thread here. I did all this last night, up to the painting stage. It made an awful mess! They had much better colours than last time I bought static grass, a nice bright green, what I'd call "grass green". In fact very similar to the colour Lance showed us here. So my question is, do I really need to paint it? Maybe just drybrushing would be enough. I have to charge the airbrush with green paint anyway tonight, but I'd hate to spoil something that already looks very good. /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: Lance Krieg [mailto:lance.krieg@amerus.com] > Sent: den 12 februari 2003 17:17 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Shadow in dioramas > > > Pedro branches into teritory familiar to me: > > "... painting the stuff is probably another different mater. Ideas > anyone?" > > The hydrostatic grass from the model railroaders is the way to go; the > Germans make fantastic stuff that is sprinkled over white > glue, and then > blown upon gently with your breath. The fibers leap to the vertical, > and look just like the real thing. Cheap and effective. > > The color are not so good, but this is easy, too. Use your airbrush > (or even an aerosol can) to color the grass an appropriate > green or tan, > and then dry-brush this gently with lighter shades and yellows. > > You will have better results if you put down a plaster "ground" and > paint it brown first, before applying the grass. Then when > you sprinkle > on the "grass", leave small bare patches - just like my lawn at home! > > Here is a SPAD on such a base: > > http://132.177.241.68/Images/Krieg/French/spad13_3.jpg > > lance > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 23:51:29 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: On-Line Gallery Submission Tool Message-ID: Pedro says: >Yyp. Mmmmm Paul said: > > nd Kaapse Vreugd. (It's red, it's wine, it's...well...cheap). Mmmmm. Was Pedro sneaking some? It may explain his language skills.... Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 23:57:27 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SE5a help Message-ID: Michael, >So it is! Excellent! Thanks. I am terrible at trying to discern exactly >where each photo is on the plane. That is precisely what I was trying to >find. Ahh, it WAS Merrill but you hadn't seen the post yet. Go for it mate - oughta be an interesting job in eeeny weeny scale but will look "ace" Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. 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