WWI Digest 5041 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Incisive question by RadspadMike@netscape.net 2) Re: Incisive question by "Philippe Spriesterbach" 3) RE: Incisive question by ot811 4) Site update:Nieuport Models by Sanjeev 5) RE: Site update:Nieuport Models by "Philippe Spriesterbach" 6) RE: Site update:Nieuport Models by RadspadMike@netscape.net 7) Re: Incisive question by ot811 8) Re: Site update:Nieuport Models by "Carlos Carreira" 9) RE: Personal Announcements by GRBroman@aol.com 10) RE: Incisive question by Al Superczynski 11) Re: But how did StE attach his Roden D.III lower wing? by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 12) RE: Personal Announcements by "Steven Perry" 13) RE: Site update:Nieuport Models by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 14) RE: Personal Announcements by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 15) Re: Site update:Nieuport Models by "Matt Bittner" 16) Re: But how did StE attach his Roden D.III lower wing? by "Shane Weier" 17) Re: But how did StE attach his Roden D.III lower wing? by "Greg Balzer" 18) Re: Site update:Nieuport Models by Dennis Ugulano 19) Get new sign by "Bambi Moliss" 20) Re: But how did StE attach his Roden D.III lower wing? by "Shane Weier" 21) Re: But how did StE attach his Roden D.III lower wing? by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 22) Re: R planes by Clay W Fulcher 23) RE: Personal Announcements by Clay W Fulcher 24) RE: Personal Announcements by Clay W Fulcher 25) Re: But how did StE attach his Roden D.III lower wing? by Clay W Fulcher 26) Re: But how did StE attach his Roden D.III lower wing? by "Shane Weier" 27) Re: But how did StE attach his Roden D.III lower wing? by "Shane Weier" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 18:38:29 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Incisive question Message-ID: <62E738D6.3009543F.3E0364A1@netscape.net> That's right. I forgot you bought about $30 or $40 worth of misc. sized brass a while ago didn't you? Don't blame you for wanting to use it. I haven't used a Dremel cut-off wheel on brass tubing. It seems that if you don't have to apply too much pressure, you might be able to secure the short end to be cut off in a vise (about 1/8")and cut it off almost flush with the vise and then dress the cut-off piece with a file or sanding stick while it is still in the vise. Then, if you are like me, it will fall to the floor when you try to remove it from the vise and you will spend ten minutes on your hands and knees looking for it. ;-) Mike Kavanaugh ot811 wrote: >Mike, > I know the article you talk about. In fact, it was the source of >my idea. It doesnt have to be brass tubing, but I have it handy, and >small parts charges an arm and a leg in shipping. So unless I >destroy my stock of brass tubing trying Diego's and Tom's and >Alvarado's tips, .... >regards >Sanjeev > > > > __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 00:49:43 +0100 From: "Philippe Spriesterbach" To: Subject: Re: Incisive question Message-ID: I've these tubing cutter. He can't working on a diameter lower than 1.5/1.8 mm (about 60 thou). If you see my Pfalz D.III in 1/72 at http://users.skynet.be/fa233213/PfalzDIIIfront.html , you can see turnubuckles from 1.5 mm length and maybe 0.2 mm in diameter. They are made in this way. I cut a 1 meter length of copper wire of appropriate diameter (in this case 0.1 mm) I slip a Qtip on this wire, I heat and stretch it ON the wire. After a few minutes, I can cut the heat stretched tube at appropriate length. Practice a little and made not length superior at 20/30 cm (8 to 12 inches) HTH Philippe Spriesterbach http://users.skynet.be/fa233213 > -----Message d'origine----- > De : wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]De la part de Paul > Wright > Envoyé : lundi 24 février 2003 0:29 > À : Multiple recipients of list > Objet : [WWI] Re: Incisive question > > > K&S makes a small tubing cutter -- retails at Tower Hobbies for $4.79. I > haven't tried it on diameters as small as you are working with... > pjw > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 18:48:59 -0500 From: ot811 To: Subject: RE: Incisive question Message-ID: <20030223235242.8410B690C4E@mail.mailsnare.net> Yeah, well, the whole idea of Dremel sounds like taking a lawn mower into a surgery theatre. With my luck, the dremel will whip the tube right into the fleshy part of my cheek. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 19:00:12 -0500 (EST) From: Sanjeev To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Site update:Nieuport Models Message-ID: <200302240000.h1O00Ch7037126@mustang.sr.unh.edu> Pedro Soares sent in photos of his completed Nieuport 17. See http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Soares/Nieuport/index.html#Nie17 or news. Sincerely, WWI Web Admin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 01:13:12 +0100 From: "Philippe Spriesterbach" To: Subject: RE: Site update:Nieuport Models Message-ID: Very good job, Pedro. It's astounding and you are a master. Make you this job at Braille scale and reduce it with a worst whashing powder ? ;-)) Regards > Pedro Soares sent in photos of his completed Nieuport 17. > See > http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Soares/Nieuport/index.html#Nie17 > or news. > Sincerely, > WWI Web Admin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 19:16:48 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Site update:Nieuport Models Message-ID: <5FA3E346.1D4812B8.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Masterful job, Pedro. Good photos too! Mike Kavanaugh Sanjeev wrote: > Pedro Soares sent in photos of his completed Nieuport 17. >See >http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Soares/Nieuport/index.html#Nie17 >or news. >Sincerely, >WWI Web Admin > __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 19:21:38 -0500 From: ot811 To: Subject: Re: Incisive question Message-ID: <20030224002520.B8AD9690BEB@mail.mailsnare.net> Phillipe, I will try the Q-tip tip one day! Thanks. By the way, nice models on your website. Thanks Sanjeev ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 00:42:15 -0000 From: "Carlos Carreira" To: Subject: Re: Site update:Nieuport Models Message-ID: <00ec01c2db9d$93ec4ac0$6901a8c0@duron> Pedro, Beautiful model of one of the most elegant OT planes! You were right! The decal stripes are a very subtle representation of the ribs. And that centre section! Regards, Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sanjeev" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 12:02 AM Subject: [WWI] Site update:Nieuport Models > Pedro Soares sent in photos of his completed Nieuport 17. > See > http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Soares/Nieuport/index.html# Nie17 > or news. > Sincerely, > WWI Web Admin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 20:38:53 EST From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Personal Announcements Message-ID: <127.23297f0f.2b8ad1ad@aol.com> --part1_127.23297f0f.2b8ad1ad_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/2003 8:18:06 PM Central Standard Time, RadspadMike@netscape.net writes: > I know I'm a fool for asking, but is there anything larger than 1/72? > Not in Matt's opinion. :) Glen --part1_127.23297f0f.2b8ad1ad_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 2/22/2= 003 8:18:06 PM Central Standard Time, RadspadMike@netscape.net writes:


I know I'm a fool for askin= g, but is there anything larger than 1/72?


Not in Matt's opinion.
:)
Glen
--part1_127.23297f0f.2b8ad1ad_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 19:44:14 -0600 From: Al Superczynski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Incisive question Message-ID: Try using a mitre box and fine-toothed razor saw. -- HTH, Al http://www.network54.com/realm/modeleral/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:46:53 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: But how did StE attach his Roden D.III lower wing? Message-ID: <000401c2dba6$9b549160$824c2dcb@future> Guitar string may be stronger than the florist wire I used. So this will be interesting to see how mine goes when the top wing goes on. I drill holes under a magnifying glass now days. In fact most of my 72nd model making has to be done this way. Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Shane Weier Sent: Monday, 24 February 2003 10:29 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: But how did StE attach his Roden D.III lower wing? Ross >Did you pin your lower wing? If so how? Yes. Guitar string pins (the finest I had) inserted in #76 holes in both the wing and the wing root. I *usually* drill holes much bigger than the wire because I'm a klutz and they otherwise won't line up. This time I wanted to paint the fuselage then pin the wing in place *without glue* so I tried the "accurate fit technique" again. And to my utter surprise it actually worked. The wings fit so tightly that I didn't need glue on either one, and it only took a minor tweak of the pins to add the dihedral I'd botched in the first instant. (I'm prepared to bet large sums of money I'll never get an accurate pin job again in this life time. It just isn't natural for me) Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 20:48:50 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: RE: Personal Announcements Message-ID: <00bb01c2dba6$e24dd180$65a8a8c0@tampabay.rr.com> > > I know I'm a fool for asking, but is there anything larger than 1/72? > > > > Not in Matt's opinion. > :) > Glen I just tumbled to why there are no photos of Matt...he's only 1" tall. Probably flies his own models around the room. That's why he's so particular about details ;-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:48:32 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: Site update:Nieuport Models Message-ID: <000501c2dba6$d9ad42e0$824c2dcb@future> Pedro has one of those shrinking machines that's takes the real life plane and shrinks it down so he can them off as his models. Mate, it's a little ripper and a fandoddley. Well done. Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Sanjeev Sent: Monday, 24 February 2003 11:03 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Site update:Nieuport Models Pedro Soares sent in photos of his completed Nieuport 17. See http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Soares/Nieuport/index.html#Nie17 or news. Sincerely, WWI Web Admin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:56:25 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: Personal Announcements Message-ID: <000601c2dba7$f3b6f3b0$824c2dcb@future> Matt is so small he doesn't need to pop the roof in his pop up camper to enter. Nor does he cast a shadow. He is so small he needs a 12 foot ladder to get up into the cockpit of his models. It must be that time of the week that we pay out on Matt. ;-) Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Steven Perry Sent: Monday, 24 February 2003 12:47 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] RE: Personal Announcements > > I know I'm a fool for asking, but is there anything larger than 1/72? > > > > Not in Matt's opinion. > :) > Glen I just tumbled to why there are no photos of Matt...he's only 1" tall. Probably flies his own models around the room. That's why he's so particular about details ;-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 20:13:30 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Site update:Nieuport Models Message-ID: On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 19:02:24 -0500 (EST), Sanjeev wrote: > Pedro Soares sent in photos of his completed Nieuport 17. Awesome, most awesome. Great job, Pedro!! Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:14:01 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: But how did StE attach his Roden D.III lower wing? Message-ID: Ross says: >I drill holes under a magnifying glass now days. Me too. >In fact most of my 72nd >model making has to be done this way. All of mine has to be under a magnifier now. 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------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:07:21 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: But how did StE attach his Roden D.III lower wing? Message-ID: Greg says: >(-o instead of (-8 > >I never knew Polyphemus modeled in 1/72nd! Oooo, classical..... The Cyclops, and not the Argonaut of course. It could be me - I'm a greedy giant, but I'm not too sure whether I'd be able to eat six Greeks..... Outis could..... Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:17:19 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: But how did StE attach his Roden D.III lower wing? Message-ID: <000801c2dbb3$3d5ab960$824c2dcb@future> So do you have a hook for one hand and a wooden leg too? Also is this why you only paint the left hand side of your models? ;-) To all the none Aussies reading this and thinking that my comments are horrible. We Aussies are like this. It's how we show affection for one another. But I Can feel a hook in my back right now... Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Shane Weier Sent: Monday, 24 February 2003 1:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: But how did StE attach his Roden D.III lower wing? Ross says: >I drill holes under a magnifying glass now days. Me too. >In fact most of my 72nd >model making has to be done this way. All of mine has to be under a magnifier now. Whatever scale :-( Shane (OTOH since I have almost no vision in my right eye I should soon be able to save money on the right hand lens in my glasses (-o instead of (-8 ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 20:25:05 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: R planes Message-ID: <20030223.202505.616.3.mtngoat01@juno.com> Yo! My mama sent me all my builts from when I was 10 years old. Most of them were Revells at 50 cents a kit. I got em all, built em all. I am going to send in a pic of my 10-yr-old Fokker DVII beside the same one I'm doing now. Oberstlutnant Udet's. --clay On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 18:22:22 -0500 (EST) Steve Cox writes: > > Zeppelin Staaken appeared in New to You? section in Scale > > Models Aug 79. The price was £4.60. > > At that time you could buy a Revell Fokker DVII for about £0.50 > Now you > buy a Roden kit for about £5.00, so the Staaken price should be > about £46.00 > That's inflation for you > regards > Steve > =========================================== > steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk > http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html > http://www.bramptonscalemodelclub.fsnet.co.uk > If I didn't spend so much time on line > ‹‹ I'd get some models finished > ================ > > > > From: "Carlos Carreira" > > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > > Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 13:56:59 -0500 (EST) > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: [WWI] Re: R planes > > > > Clay, > > > > I took mine in Ebay for US $60.99. Now, this one is at GBP > > 51.00. Next one will rise the sky! > > > > Carlos > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Clay W Fulcher" > > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 6:25 PM > > Subject: [WWI] Re: R planes > > > > > >> Only 2 days left! > >> > >> I wonder what the Staaken R VI retailed for originally. I > > am sorely > >> tempted to throw my hat in the ring. > >> > >> --Clay > >> > >> On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:49:57 -0500 (EST) Steve Cox > >> writes: > >>> > >>> There's one on ebay at the moment > >>> > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3115207 > > 774 > >>> > >>> regards > >>> Steve > >> > >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > > ____ > >> Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > >> Only $9.95 per month! > >> Visit www.juno.com > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 20:32:06 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Personal Announcements Message-ID: <20030223.203207.616.6.mtngoat01@juno.com> rofl Matt, you bigger than 1" aren't you? On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 20:47:23 -0500 (EST) "Steven Perry" writes: > > > I know I'm a fool for asking, but is there anything larger than > 1/72? > > > > > > > Not in Matt's opinion. > > :) > > Glen > > I just tumbled to why there are no photos of Matt...he's only 1" > tall. > Probably flies his own models around the room. That's why he's so > particular > about details ;-) > sp > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 20:34:47 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Cc: rossmoor@bigpond.net.au, tbittners@sprintmail.com Subject: RE: Personal Announcements Message-ID: <20030223.203447.616.7.mtngoat01@juno.com> rofl Matt, how come everybody gives you shit? --Clay On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 20:57:46 -0500 (EST) "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" writes: > Matt is so small he doesn't need to pop the roof in his pop up camper > to > enter. Nor does he cast a shadow. He is so small he needs a 12 foot > ladder to get up into the cockpit of his models. > > It must be that time of the week that we pay out on Matt. ;-) > > Cheers > > Ross > > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of > Steven > Perry > Sent: Monday, 24 February 2003 12:47 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: Personal Announcements > > > > I know I'm a fool for asking, but is there anything larger than > 1/72? > > > > > > > Not in Matt's opinion. > > :) > > Glen > > I just tumbled to why there are no photos of Matt...he's only 1" > tall. > Probably flies his own models around the room. That's why he's so > particular > about details ;-) > sp > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 20:36:38 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: But how did StE attach his Roden D.III lower wing? Message-ID: <20030223.203639.616.9.mtngoat01@juno.com> Who was Polyphemus? On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 21:46:31 -0500 (EST) "Greg Balzer" writes: > Shane wrote: > (-o instead of (-8 > > I never knew Polyphemus modeled in 1/72nd! > Greg > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:38:18 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: But how did StE attach his Roden D.III lower wing? Message-ID: Ross, >So do you have a hook for one hand and a wooden leg too? Yes, and a spare in a guitar case. >Also is this >why you only paint the left hand side of your models? ;-) Port side m'boy, not left. >To all the none Aussies reading this and thinking that my comments are >horrible. We Aussies are like this. It's how we show affection for one >another. Heck, I show affection by blowing kisses at nice young fellers like you... Smoooooccccchhh Getting a little more OT...... I had acute glaucoma in my right eye as a consequence of an infection following a kick in the eye at the bottom of a rugby ruck. It didn't blind me - just removed some of my peripheral vision and dulled the central bit. I had to learn how to line up the parts of models without the depth sense you get from having binocular vision. Soooo....when I started using a desk magnifier (which has the same effect) I thought I'd be ahead of the game. Nope. First time I used it I managed to superglue a tailskid about 10mm in front of where I *expected* Getting the hang of it took time, but the good news is I did manage to develop strategies to work around it ans so can anyone else. No excuses ! Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:44:58 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: But how did StE attach his Roden D.III lower wing? Message-ID: Clay REALLY ot >Who was Polyphemus? Son of Poseidon, he was the Cyclops (one eyed giant) who was blinded by Odysseus in Greek mythology Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 5041 **********************