WWI Digest 5035 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Comments on the weekend by GRBroman@aol.com 2) RE: Kallmunzer's lost post WAS:One more in the Rogues G by "Shane Weier" 3) RE: Photography query by "Pedro Soares" 4) Re: Favorite OT Aircraft by "Shane Weier" 5) Re: apricots, casseroles, flat sanders and Insidious by "Shane Weier" 6) Re: Kiwis was Re: Bandicoots, Marines and Sa-Tis-Fac-Tion! by "Shane Weier" 7) Re: soft plastic painting by "Steven Perry" 8) Re: apricots, casseroles, flat sanders and Insidious by "Pedro Soares" 9) Re: soft plastic painting by "Pedro Soares" 10) Site update:Roden 1/72nd Albatros D.III Oeffag s.153(early) by Sanjeev 11) Re: Site update:Roden 1/72nd Albatros D.III Oeffag s.153(early) by "Pedro Soares" 12) Vac Hints was various by 13) Re: Favorite OT Aircraft by 14) Re: Favorite OT Aircraft by pfalzdvii@att.net 15) Re: Site update:Roden 1/72nd Albatros D.III Oeffag s.153(early) by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 16) Re: Site update:Roden 1/72nd Albatros D.III Oeffag s.153(early) by "Pedro Soares" 17) Re: Favorite OT Aircraft by 18) Re: Site update:Roden 1/72nd Albatros D.III Oeffag s.153(early) by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 19) Re: Site update:Roden 1/72nd Albatros D.III Oeffag s.153(early) by "Pedro Soares" 20) Re: Site update:Roden 1/72nd Albatros D.III Oeffag s.153(early) by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 21) Re: chemistry by Ken Schmitt 22) RE: Kallmunzer's lost post WAS:One more in the Rogues G by RadspadMike@netscape.net 23) RE: Kallmunzer's lost post WAS:One more in the Rogues G by "Greg Balzer" 24) A 'gift' for our USA list members by Zulis@aol.com 25) Re: Post Query by "NEIL EDDY" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 18:28:15 EST From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Comments on the weekend Message-ID: <4c.187f94af.2b88100f@aol.com> --part1_4c.187f94af.2b88100f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2003 11:40:50 AM Central Standard Time, mtngoat01@juno.com writes: > think that we in New Mexico have the most evil weed We have ditch weed here in Illinois. :) Glen --part1_4c.187f94af.2b88100f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 2/21/2= 003 11:40:50 AM Central Standard Time, mtngoat01@juno.com writes:


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We have ditch weed here in Illinois.  :)
Glen --part1_4c.187f94af.2b88100f_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:42:38 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Kallmunzer's lost post WAS:One more in the Rogues G Message-ID: Nick says: >Yes! Please experienced vacform builders. Share tips with us newbies >who have never built a vacform kit. It looks like there is an awful lot of >careful cutting to get the parts out. AND, the cutting has to be really >accurate! Tips on cutting? I've been waiting for someone to answer a similar request from (I think) Clay, but nothing so far. The good news is that you *don't* actually cut the majority of parts out at all! Somewhere along the line someone explained outlining the parts then scribing around them at a 45 degree angle. I personally scribe at an angle as close to the backing sheet (for want of a better description of the waste plastic) as I can manage consistently but that's just me. The next step is - to tear the parts out! Simply flex the backing sheet away from the part and it should split along the scribed line. Work your way around flexing the backing away from the part until it just drops out. It MAY be necessary to scribe a few lines in the backing to allow you to break away sections from around parts (or simply cut the whole sheet into bits with a part in each). The whole process is simple, quick, and after about 30 minutes practice, easy. If your model has some alternate parts - practice on them first and the real ones will benefit from the experience FWIW Shane (builder of about 50 WW1 vacforms mainly during the great WW1 drought which means Uggie and others have left me standing. I still love them and wish I could afford to collect all of Bob Norgrens lovely kits, OOP or otherwise) ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 23:47:38 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: RE: Photography query Message-ID: <003401c2da03$9e456420$f8fa16d5@netcabo.pt> Neil, Hear what Nigel says: use the timer. Compose, set the timer and don't touch the camera. P.S. I wouldn't mind taking a look at those photos, blurred as they might be. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:47:37 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Favorite OT Aircraft Message-ID: Merrill says >IIRC the last Vickers pusher was called the F.B.12, What about the Vickers Supermarine Swift? ;-) Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** >From: pfalzdvii@att.net >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: Favorite OT Aircraft >Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:06:44 -0500 (EST) > also called, again IIRC >the "Vampire", about a dozen actually served in home defence squadrons. > >-- >Merrill >Your Madness May Vary > > And quite nippy! They froze their behinds off without the heat of the > > engine in front of them. > > > > I love the pushers too. I built the Pegasus Gunbus, and have yet to >build > > my Pegasus DH2. Vickers was fairly stuck on pusher aircraft all the way > > to the end of the war. I can't remember the name of the last one...I > > don't think it saw action, but it was beautiful (FB12? ... Dragon or > > something). Also the Farman F.40... > > > > --Clay > > > > On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:30:58 -0500 (EST) "Paul Wright" > > writes: > > > Howdy, y'all. Just curious why the fragile beauty of the Vickers FB5 > > > "Gun > > > Bus" hasn't elicited any votes for "favorite"?? (With the Airco DH2 > > > close > > > behind.) Hard to imagine how anyone in their right mind would have > > > sat down > > > in front of a few hundred pounds of hot, whirling metal...but the > > > view had > > > to be spectacular! > > > pj wright > > > dahlonega, georgia > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > > Only $9.95 per month! > > Visit www.juno.com _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:58:50 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: apricots, casseroles, flat sanders and Insidious Message-ID: Lance says: >" Americal/ Gryphon versions were based on Ray Rimmel's research?" > >I think it safe to say that Americal Gryphon's research into this was >based on fabric samples from all over the world. Dr. Merrill is both >original and quite particular, and has been active in this field for >well over twenty years. Not that there is any thing wrong with Ray >Rimell's research... Yes, I agree, Mark has the facts reversed IMO. It's worth noting that when research prior to making the replica fabric used on the recent restorations in Germany (silberstrief??) was being done, *they* consulted with Dr Merrill on the authenticity of their product! Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 10:01:43 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Kiwis was Re: Bandicoots, Marines and Sa-Tis-Fac-Tion! Message-ID: 'ming >If my experience is anythiing, they are also best at swearing - one >word for adjective, verb and noun! Conceded. You should hear them when we beat them at rugby... Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:05:05 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: soft plastic painting Message-ID: <003d01c2da06$21f41b20$65a8a8c0@tampabay.rr.com> > I think I remember Steve was trying a basecoat of future on soft plastic > figurines. > > Steve did it work? Will the paint hold better? It seemed to. Someone mentioned primer that is used on flexible car bumpers as the best, but the Future seemed to make it easier to paint. I think the Future/plastic bond is a little better than the mixed Future-acrlyic/plastic bond. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:05:52 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: apricots, casseroles, flat sanders and Insidious Message-ID: <009e01c2da06$2a388000$f8fa16d5@netcabo.pt> IIRC The instruction sheet of Almark's 4 and 5 colour lozenge quotes Ray Rimmel as the culprit for the research. I do like Almark loz, both in colour and in behavior. Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:59 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: apricots, casseroles, flat sanders and Insidious > Lance says: > > >" Americal/ Gryphon versions were based on Ray Rimmel's research?" > > > >I think it safe to say that Americal Gryphon's research into this was > >based on fabric samples from all over the world. Dr. Merrill is both > >original and quite particular, and has been active in this field for > >well over twenty years. Not that there is any thing wrong with Ray > >Rimell's research... > > Yes, I agree, Mark has the facts reversed IMO. > > It's worth noting that when research prior to making the replica fabric used > on the recent restorations in Germany (silberstrief??) was being done, > *they* consulted with Dr Merrill on the authenticity of their product! > > Shane > > ******************************** > > My Strine is a Toad in Disguise > > > ******************************** > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:10:14 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: soft plastic painting Message-ID: <00aa01c2da06$c63f6ea0$f8fa16d5@netcabo.pt> Thanks, Steve, will give it a try. Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Perry To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 12:05 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: soft plastic painting > > > > I think I remember Steve was trying a basecoat of future on soft plastic > > figurines. > > > > Steve did it work? Will the paint hold better? > > It seemed to. Someone mentioned primer that is used on flexible car bumpers > as the best, but the Future seemed to make it easier to paint. I think the > Future/plastic bond is a little better than the mixed Future-acrlyic/plastic > bond. > sp > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:10:49 -0500 (EST) From: Sanjeev To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Site update:Roden 1/72nd Albatros D.III Oeffag s.153(early) Message-ID: <200302220010.h1M0AnQG012918@mustang.sr.unh.edu> Ross Moorhouse sent in more progress photos of his Roden 1/72nd Albatros D.III Oeffag s.153(early). See http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Moorhouse/CP/index.html#AlbD3 or news. Sincerely, WWI Web Admin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:17:47 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Site update:Roden 1/72nd Albatros D.III Oeffag s.153(early) Message-ID: <010201c2da07$d45ebd00$f8fa16d5@netcabo.pt> Hey Ross, Neat join on the wing. Good one, mate. Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: Sanjeev To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 12:12 AM Subject: [WWI] Site update:Roden 1/72nd Albatros D.III Oeffag s.153(early) > Ross Moorhouse sent in more progress photos of > his Roden 1/72nd Albatros D.III Oeffag s.153(early). > See > http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Moorhouse/CP/index.html#AlbD3 > or news. > Sincerely, > WWI Web Admin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:17:30 +0000 From: To: Subject: Vac Hints was various Message-ID: <1045873050.3e56c19a9ab47@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Shane Weier : > Nick says: > > >Yes! Please experienced vacform builders. Share tips with us newbies > >who have never built a vacform kit. It looks like there is an awful > lot of > >careful cutting to get the parts out. AND, the cutting has to be > really > >accurate! Tips on cutting? > > The good news is that you *don't* actually cut the majority of parts out > at all! Somewhere along the line someone explained outlining the parts > then scribing around them at a 45 degree angle. I personally scribe at an > angle as close to the backing sheet (for want of a better description of the > waste plastic) as I can manage consistently but that's just me. Before scribing, I go round the part with a thick marker pen. Then, when you scribe and flex, the plastic that is white beneath the marker is the excess (in most cases!) > > The next step is - to tear the parts out! Simply flex the backing sheet > away from the part and it should split along the scribed line. Work your way > around flexing the backing away from the part until it just drops out. > You need to take care - a wrong flex and the part rips! I use Shane's techniquie for most parts, but have a different one for one-piece wings - then I cut the part from the backing with a lip of backing sheet around it. I then carefully cut the trailing edge using a straight scalpel blade at a VERY shallow angle. Leading edge is cut at an almost vertical angle - this gives you some spare plastic to put an airfoil section on the wing leading edge. Wing tips are another area - you need to use a sharp blade to cut the airfoil section & washout if appropriate. I thin the trailing edge using a window paint scraper - basically a razor balde in a handle, the l/e is all knife and wet'n'dry work (scraping mainly I tend not to use a flat sanding board - I use the razor scraper and/or a hand held sander (Sanvik) to remove most of the excess plastic - this allows it to be done at eye level and gives you more control. Before, when I used the flat board, more than one problem was caused by over enthusiastic pressure on one place. A good investment is Aeroclub's Tee-Al system - bacically T shaped pieces of aluminium extrusion along with their sticky pads - a fabric double sided sticker with good shear strength, but light 'vertical' strength- you use these to hld the parts while sanding. There ia another method, older books talk ait - you leave a lip around the part, and sand flat until the lip is wafer thin. When it comes away, the part is ready. I don't like this, for two main reasons: (a) It's harder to control (b) You have about 5 times as much plastic to remove!! HTH Dave Fleming Whose only prize winningmodel aircraft was a vac DH6 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:34:08 +0000 From: To: Subject: Re: Favorite OT Aircraft Message-ID: <1045874048.3e56c5803ff0f@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Shane Weier : > Merrill says > > >IIRC the last Vickers pusher was called the F.B.12, > > What about the Vickers Supermarine Swift? > LOL! We should have sold those to the Aussies! The Vampire was actually the Vickers FB26, put forward as a day fighter and trench fighter (with armour) in 1917 and 1918 respectively. Although Vickers last OT pusher, it wasn't their last throw of the Gunbus dice. Step forward to the 1931 Vickers Type 161, an all metal pusher biplane designed to carry the 37mm COW cannon. Model from the APMA site: http://apma.org.au/membersmodels/graham_carter/carter038.jpg (BTW, is that issue still available S&L?) Used to be an article on building one on Hyperscale, but can't find it. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:37:04 +0000 From: pfalzdvii@att.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Favorite OT Aircraft Message-ID: <3E55547900083F11@mta1.wss.scd.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) Clay, I went back to my references and checked, (I have photos of the beast somewhere) 18 Vampires (of an original order of 50) were made, they were allegedly tested at the front (and found wanting) and the rest MAY have been used during 1917 for home defence, the four forward firing guns in the nose looked pretty impressive for late 1916/ early '17. -- Merrill Your Madness May Vary > Oh yeah that was it, the F.B.12 Vampire. I didn't know they actually saw > service. It was a nice-looking pusher. Is there a kit for it somewhere? > --Clay > > On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:06:44 -0500 (EST) pfalzdvii@att.net writes: > > IIRC the last Vickers pusher was called the F.B.12, also called, > > again IIRC > > the "Vampire", about a dozen actually served in home defence > > squadrons. > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:40:27 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Site update:Roden 1/72nd Albatros D.III Oeffag s.153(early) Message-ID: <000501c2da0a$fe675c30$824c2dcb@future> Thanks mate. But which wing? The top one is glued etc. The bottom one is still at dry fit stage. Thanks Sanjeev for putting the update up too. :-) Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Pedro Soares Sent: Saturday, 22 February 2003 11:17 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Site update:Roden 1/72nd Albatros D.III Oeffag s.153(early) Hey Ross, Neat join on the wing. Good one, mate. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:45:02 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Site update:Roden 1/72nd Albatros D.III Oeffag s.153(early) Message-ID: <011a01c2da0b$a2757fa0$f8fa16d5@netcabo.pt> The top one, I hadn't yet seen it and I remember you had some problems with putting it together. Pedro Of course the lower ones look swell too. Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross & Wendy Moorhouse To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 12:41 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Site update:Roden 1/72nd Albatros D.III Oeffag s.153(early) > Thanks mate. But which wing? The top one is glued etc. The bottom one is > still at dry fit stage. > > Thanks Sanjeev for putting the update up too. :-) > > Cheers > > Ross > > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Pedro > Soares > Sent: Saturday, 22 February 2003 11:17 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Site update:Roden 1/72nd Albatros D.III Oeffag > s.153(early) > > Hey Ross, > > Neat join on the wing. Good one, mate. > > Pedro > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:47:55 +0000 From: To: Subject: Re: Favorite OT Aircraft Message-ID: <1045874875.3e56c8bbcfe04@netmail.pipex.net> > > Oh yeah that was it, the F.B.12 Vampire. I didn't know they actually > saw > > service. It was a nice-looking pusher. Is there a kit for it > somewhere? There was an old vac by Cramer in 1/72 of the FB12C, and Lone Star did one in 1/48th Scaleplanes did the later FB26 in 1/72. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:48:21 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Site update:Roden 1/72nd Albatros D.III Oeffag s.153(early) Message-ID: <000701c2da0c$1c414ee0$824c2dcb@future> The top wing took me 3 goes to get it right. It wasn't till I did the Cane Toad way with a bit of glass and some CD cases to hold things straight that I was happy with the wing. The CA/Talc mix for filler seems to have also made a very strong bond as well for the joints. But I did only butt join them first with normal glue. Cheers Ross ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:55:58 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Site update:Roden 1/72nd Albatros D.III Oeffag s.153(early) Message-ID: <013001c2da0d$29f139a0$f8fa16d5@netcabo.pt> > The top wing took me 3 goes to get it right. It wasn't till I did the > Cane Toad way with a bit of glass and some CD cases to hold things > straight Yes. Cane toads know it all :-) I think the CD part must be very critical too. What type of music did you use? I'd probably go for something like "let's stick together" by Brian Ferry, just to use something local..... Regards Pedro > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 12:04:54 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Site update:Roden 1/72nd Albatros D.III Oeffag s.153(early) Message-ID: <000a01c2da0e$6c6411d0$824c2dcb@future> I used the case FROM AN OLD pc GAME MAG DEMO DISC. This was used to butt the leading edge up against. To hold down the trailing edge I used the case that had old floppys in. This just covered the joints. I would never dare waste my jazz collection or my Kyle discs for such a mundane job. Yes at my age I am an Kyle fan. Cheers Ross ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:12:42 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Re: chemistry Message-ID: Mark- > Ummm....., Ken? > > You ok? Yessir. And I found your chemical edification splendid. These old ruminants may have thrown dust, but I came right out of the weeds and read every dang word. (I did, too) Ken, who thinks Mark is swell. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:45:56 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Kallmunzer's lost post WAS:One more in the Rogues G Message-ID: <145A0E50.12BB61FA.3E0364A1@netscape.net> "Shane Weier" wrote: >Shane >(builder of about 50 WW1 vacforms mainly during the great WW1 drought which >means Uggie and others have left me standing. I still love them and wish I >could afford to collect all of Bob Norgrens lovely kits, OOP or otherwise) So true! I have his Short Bomber, Phonix D.II, Hansa-Brandenburg C.I, H-B D.I Starstrutter, plus VacWings Salmson 2A2 Bomber waiting in line. My first vacform kit, still in progress, is the Bluprint 1/24 Fokker D.VIII. I really don't know how you could do a wing that size in plastic or resin and I'm pleased how mine turned out. I've been following John Adams' instructions and they work great. I do a lot more scraping and a lot less sanding. Frequent dry fitting and checking with the drawings are necessary, but it's working for me. I also have a "ot alert" Contrail Fairey IIIF floatplane in progress, which is coming along nicely. I'm learning to like vacforms, more variety and more scope in finishing them out. I think you are cheating yourself if you don't seriously try all kit media, injection molded plastic, resin and vacform (plus, of course, wood and tissue). FWIW, Mike Kavanaugh __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 21:37:40 -0500 From: "Greg Balzer" To: Subject: RE: Kallmunzer's lost post WAS:One more in the Rogues G Message-ID: <001b01c2da1b$5f5b5b30$45a44644@Greg> Shane writes: "builder of about 50 WW1 vacforms mainly during the great WW1 drought which means Uggie and others have left me standing. I still love them and wish I could afford to collect all of Bob Norgrens lovely kits, OOP or otherwise." _________________________ One question that simply has me completely baffled...and if someone can school me offlist, or onlist for that matter, I'd appreciate it. That has to do with ribs and rib tapes. I understand that ribbing under the fabric would result in subtle peaks in valleys in the upper wing surface, which must be recreated by adhering plastic card or something to obtain a similar effect. Rib tapes were strips of cloth or lozenge that was sewn along the ribs, and to reinforce seams/stress points. OK...I've got a Jager resin D.VII in 1/48 that has small ridges on the wing, not subtle peaks and valleys, and I've heard about having to add rib detail to vacs. The vacs all seem to have some rib detail, but everyone I hear sands it off and adds their own. Just wondering if someone can provide this novice with some schooling. TIA~ Greg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 23:26:11 -0500 From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: A 'gift' for our USA list members Message-ID: <762B4A41.644EE0CE.000121E7@aol.com> Greetings! If you are not from the USA, you may want to just delete this message right now. A few years back, a number of the states launched a class action suit against the manufacturers of music CDs for price fixing (I am grossly simplifying the long story here). The settlement involved returning an substantial amount of money to the general public. It appears that the payout may be at or just below $20 per person, and the window of opportunity to register for your slice ends at the beginning of March. Details can be found at: http://www.musiccdsettlement.com/english/default.htm I know, I know... it sounds fishy. I am a devotee of the hoax and urban legends pages, and there is stuff like this appearing there all the time. However, those sites are delighted to actually confirm that this one is on the up-and-up. I am sharing this tidbit with our list because the rebate would be roughly just enough to buy one, decent kit of your choice, without dinging the family budget. :-) And it doesnt even involve a widow/aide/son/daughter of some shady person from a country I have never heard of.... Good luck! Dave Z (a Canuck with high CD prices regardless) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 15:28:07 +1100 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: Post Query Message-ID: <008a01c2da2a$cd50c760$9a2832d2@default> Shane; I will talk to Mr Moorhouse Esq. about putting the best Pup shots up on my gallery. Those ones are okay but not representative of all aspects of the model is all. I'll also send you them up in e-mail. I probably won't do any more Pup photos until I get a tripod in a couple of weeks. I am taking some old generic brand Uggie Pills I found in my modelling desk top drawer. Model Expo O3 is just over a fortnight away and I want to get my Pfalz finished for that (just for the fun of entering mainly). We have a few Spotted Tailed Quolls in East Gippsland and near the border with that other state up there. They are seriously endangered pretty much in that habitat and in NSW too (probably because they can't stand Latte's). We had them all through the temporate rainforest areas but no more. There is a plan to release some Tasmanian Quolls into the forest areas in the Otway Mountains but it hasn't been done yet. Tasmania has the most plentiful populations of them. Yours In Quollness Neil E Them as is wonderin': The Quoll is the second largest remaining marsupial predator. They are about the size of a largish cat and look ugly. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Weier" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 9:47 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Post Query > Neil says to Neil: > > >If it was me, I'd wait! > > Good advice IMO. But you can send me a blurry pic offline ;-) > > >And whats a Quoll? > > I didn't know Melbourne had Quolls! And I lived there for 7 years too. They > must've just moved in. > > Neil (of the wombats), are they Spotted Quolls or another type?? > > Shane > > (from Spotted Quoll country) > > ******************************** > > My Strine is a Toad in Disguise > > > ******************************** > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 5035 **********************