WWI Digest 5033 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) TR: RE: Vac tips WAS: Kallmunzer's lost post by "Philippe Spriesterbach" 2) RE: OT Naval book by Crawford Neil 3) Vacform by "Philippe Spriesterbach" 4) Re: Vac tips WAS: Kallmunzer's lost post by Clay W Fulcher 5) Re: Post Query by "NEIL EDDY" 6) Vac-U-Phobia by pfalzdvii@att.net 7) Re: Bandicoots, Marines and Sa-Tis-Fac-Tion! by "NEIL EDDY" 8) Re: Post Query by Crawford Neil 9) Re: Post Query by pfalzdvii@att.net 10) RE: Kallmunzer's lost post WAS:One more in the Rogues G by John Huggins 11) Re: Vac tips WAS: Kallmunzer's lost post by Clay W Fulcher 12) E.IV - topside famework by "Bob Laskodi" 13) Re: Vac-U-Phobia by Clay W Fulcher 14) APMA Site update by Shane Jenkins - APMA Webmaster 15) Re: Bandicoots, Marines and Sa-Tis-Fac-Tion! by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 16) Re: Bandicoots, Marines and Sa-Tis-Fac-Tion! by "NEIL EDDY" 17) soft plastic painting by "Pedro N. Soares" 18) Re: Comments on the weekend by Clay W Fulcher 19) Bad News for Breuget fans? by 20) Re: Bandicoots, Marines and Sa-Tis-Fac-Tion! by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 21) Re: Bandicoots, Marines and Sa-Tis-Fac-Tion! by "NEIL EDDY" 22) Vacform and fat fingers by "Philippe Spriesterbach" 23) RE: APMA Site update by "Diego Ferneti" 24) Re: Favorite OT Aircraft by Clay W Fulcher 25) Re: R planes by Clay W Fulcher 26) Re: Bad News for Breuget fans? by grzegorz_mazurowski@poczta.onet.pl ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:10:58 +0100 From: "Philippe Spriesterbach" To: "Wwi" Subject: TR: RE: Vac tips WAS: Kallmunzer's lost post Message-ID: > -----Message d'origine----- > De : wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]De la part de > Philippe Spriesterbach > Envoyé : vendredi 21 février 2003 14:53 > À : Multiple recipients of list > Objet : [WWI] RE: Vac tips WAS: Kallmunzer's lost post > > > Try this link : http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/vacformbg_1.htm IMHO, > this one is the best explanation on "how to built a vac" I've ever seen. > > This next link is more specific and explain how to cut vacform canopies : > http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/vacformbg_1.htm > > HTH > > Regards > > Philippe Spriesterbach > > http://users.skynet.be/fa233213 > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]De la part de WW1 > Envoyé : vendredi 21 février 2003 12:27 > À : Multiple recipients of list > Objet : [WWI] Vac tips WAS: Kallmunzer's lost post > > > Hi Clay! > > Who else has experience with vacform? Can you share some tips and > > possible "gotchas" before I turn my Lloyd into a heap of plastic > > shavings? Thanks. > > I have never actually finished any vac kit yet. At least I can say in my > defense that I ruined a few! But there is good advice on the > net, the main > point are explained here: > http://www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby/vacform.htm > and here: > http://www.aeroclub-models.com/Aeroclub/files/VacForm.pdf > > Hope it helps! > D. > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:18:21 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: OT Naval book Message-ID: In case you haven't seen these here http://www.wtj.com/archives/ are some very interesting first-hand accounts of Naval battles. Not something you'd want to be involved in. /Neil C The > battle scenes are compelling and horrific. There is no > attempt to flesh out > the entire battle, with the author showing how the battle > looked from three > different perspectives, from the bridges of a destroyer, > armored cruiser and > battleship. From time to time I referred to my Osprey "Jutland" in an > attempt to keep track of the big picture. A very good read, highly > recommended. > > Makes me want to build WW1 ships -- unfortunately models of > them are almost > as rare as Naglos and Boblinks. Been waiting for a pair from > Germany now for > a month. > > Marc Flake > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:25:13 +0100 From: "Philippe Spriesterbach" To: "Wwi" Subject: Vacform Message-ID: Ooooooooops, Sorry for the twin post. Fat fingers and bad eyesight. ;-) Philippe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:33:50 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Vac tips WAS: Kallmunzer's lost post Message-ID: <20030221.083351.3528.6.mtngoat01@juno.com> Fabulous. These links hit the spot. Thanks! --c On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 06:26:59 -0500 (EST) "WW1" writes: > > I have never actually finished any vac kit yet. At least I can say > in my > defense that I ruined a few! But there is good advice on the net, > the main > point are explained here: > http://www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby/vacform.htm > and here: > http://www.aeroclub-models.com/Aeroclub/files/VacForm.pdf > > Hope it helps! > D. ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 02:38:50 +1100 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: Post Query Message-ID: <01ec01c2d9bf$556bbc20$fdf832d2@default> Mike; As Shane said I was pulling everybody's legs here. The Cassowary is a very large flightless bird roughly the same size as an ostrich except heavier. It has a heavy bone crest and is m-e-a-n. Cassowaries will attack because they can often. They inhabit Northern Queensland (where else?) and their main function is to keep Queenslanders in line. There are many stories of unwary joggers in towns like MacKay and Rockhampton being "treed" by wandering Cassowaries. Gentle -never - they make sleeping bag squatting bandicoots seem very tame and cute. I'm somewhat disappointed tonight as I recently took a batch of photos of my completed Sopwith Pup and due to my shaky grip on the camera, all except two are blurred. I'm thinking its time to invest in a tripod for my model photography. Should I post these two or wait until I have some other better shots? (The two are 1x3/4 view and an underside shot - The problem is there are markings on the top wing which aren't visible in these shots). I would have liked a more comprehensive shoot but there you go. Needing advice Neil E (Home of the Quoll) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:39 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Post Query > "NEIL EDDY" wrote: > > >All the Best > > > >Neil E > >(Home of the Gentle Cassowary) > > > Another one! Why is the casso wary? Because it is so gentle? Maybe the extinct apterix (sp?) should have been warier (more wary?) Australian fauna is about as confusing as differences in Nieuports. > > Mike Kavanaugh > > __________________________________________________________________ > The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:39:39 +0000 From: pfalzdvii@att.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org (WWI LIst) Subject: Vac-U-Phobia Message-ID: <3E5554790004B81C@mta1.wss.scd.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) I have built four vacs, with variable success, however, I appreciated the links from Philippe, and Diego, 'knowledge is power', and I'm still behind the curve on vacs. Clay, two things to keep in mind about vacs, one, be careful sanding the fuselage, it's easy to sand too much, and sometimes it's easier to 'scratch' some parts, especially control surfaces and stabilizers, than to sand down the vac parts. Other than that, GO For IT! -- Merrill Your Madness May Vary ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 02:46:34 +1100 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: Bandicoots, Marines and Sa-Tis-Fac-Tion! Message-ID: <021701c2d9c0$6a306560$fdf832d2@default> Unfair! Wot with no crow eaters on the List to protect themselves from scurillous attacks by Queenslanders in glass houses.....then again why should I care what happens to them South Australians?...They're just a slightly more boring version of a Sydneysider really...(Their lattes aren't as good). Hoping to start a war between the states... Neil E (Bogong Moths). Bobolink! Bobolink!, my kingdom for a Bobolink!.... (Richard III birdwatching at Bosworth) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Weier" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 1:23 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Bandicoots, Marines and Sa-Tis-Fac-Tion! > They do, there wasn't, it was, and I'd have told the same story if it'd > bitten an Aussie (and the guy whose feet got clawed up was almost an Aussie, > what with being from Adelaide and all ;-) > > Shane > > > > ******************************** > > My Strine is a Toad in Disguise > > > ******************************** > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:46:49 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Post Query Message-ID: > Should I post these two or wait until I have some other > better shots? (The > two are 1x3/4 view and an underside shot - The problem is > there are markings > on the top wing which aren't visible in these shots). I would > have liked a > more comprehensive shoot but there you go. > > Needing advice > > Neil E > (Home of the Quoll) If it was me, I'd wait! And whats a Quoll? /Neil C. (home of the Cow) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:48:08 +0000 From: pfalzdvii@att.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Post Query Message-ID: <3E5554790004C4B6@mta1.wss.scd.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) Tripods are nice, even an inexpensive one can make a world of difference in model photography. However, one trick you might try is a home made 'monopod', which uses a broomstick (or other bit of wood)and some duct tape, to steady your shots (a couple of shots of good whiskey might help, too) -- Merrill Your Madness May Vary > Mike; > > As Shane said I was pulling everybody's legs here. The Cassowary is a very > large flightless bird roughly the same size as an ostrich except heavier. It > has a heavy bone crest and is m-e-a-n. Cassowaries will attack because they > can often. > > They inhabit Northern Queensland (where else?) and their main function is to > keep Queenslanders in line. > > There are many stories of unwary joggers in towns like MacKay and > Rockhampton being "treed" by wandering Cassowaries. > > Gentle -never - they make sleeping bag squatting bandicoots seem very tame > and cute. > > I'm somewhat disappointed tonight as I recently took a batch of photos of my > completed Sopwith Pup and due to my shaky grip on the camera, all except two > are blurred. I'm thinking its time to invest in a tripod for my model > photography. > > Should I post these two or wait until I have some other better shots? (The > two are 1x3/4 view and an underside shot - The problem is there are markings > on the top wing which aren't visible in these shots). I would have liked a > more comprehensive shoot but there you go. > > Needing advice > > Neil E > (Home of the Quoll) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:39 AM > Subject: [WWI] Re: Post Query > > > > "NEIL EDDY" wrote: > > > > >All the Best > > > > > >Neil E > > >(Home of the Gentle Cassowary) > > > > > > Another one! Why is the casso wary? Because it is so gentle? Maybe the > extinct apterix (sp?) should have been warier (more wary?) Australian fauna > is about as confusing as differences in Nieuports. > > > > Mike Kavanaugh > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! > http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp > > > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at > http://webmail.netscape.com/ > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:51:09 -0600 From: John Huggins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Kallmunzer's lost post WAS:One more in the Rogues G Message-ID: <4B89E888-45B4-11D7-8B52-0003934C8626@huggins-leahey.com> Clay, The best way to get over the Vac hurdle is to get one of the moderately priced kits and go to town. Keep an open mind, and approach it as a learning experience, knowing that it will probably be a candidate for the rubbish bin when it is finished. This way, you won't be afraid of going too far, making the wrong cut, or not taking enough off, etc. Don't be afraid to try something. If it works, you are past that task. If you go the wrong way, you learn how too fix it. You may be surprised to see that the finished project is as good or better than the normal injection molded kits you have been doing. You may jump the hurdle on the first kit, or it may take two or three. Bottom line, you expand your building capabilities, broaden your potential for a collection that includes some of the more unusual subjects, and you will see that once the clean up is done, they are no harder than some of the injection kits you have done in the past. When you built your first plastic kit, did you really know what you were in for? John On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 03:59 AM, Clay W Fulcher wrote: > I have one vac in my pile of unbuilts, a Lloyd CV in 1/72. I also get > butterflies in my stomach when I am tempted to begin on it. Until this > one gets built, no others are allowed on my pile. It seems there is a > larger variety of aircraft types in vac than resin or injection. Is > this > true? > > Who else has experience with vacform? Can you share some tips and > possible "gotchas" before I turn my Lloyd into a heap of plastic > shavings? Thanks. > > --Clay > > On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 03:42:43 -0500 (EST) Crawford Neil > writes: >> Greg, Can you tell us what it is! >> /Neil C. >> >>> Well, >>> After looking at them, I don't know if my nerves or my >>> stomach are up to the >>> effort! Vacs look to be a far cry from my typical building >>> experience. But >>> hey, like everyone, nothing more enticing that the raw >>> potential in every >>> kit as you open it for the first time, lift out the pieces, and >> try to >>> envision what the finished product might look like! Just >>> don't hold your >>> breath waiting for that build to hit the gallery anytime soon! >>> Greg >>> >>> >> >> > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:54:42 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Vac tips WAS: Kallmunzer's lost post Message-ID: <20030221.085442.3528.10.mtngoat01@juno.com> Thanks Carlos! That did it. The Lloyd will come right after I finish my Fokker DVII. After you score the part, do you then use a knife to cut it? Then sand with the board? When you finish your C.VII, Pictures Pictures Pictures! Clay On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:32:13 -0500 (EST) "Carlos Carreira" writes: > Clay, > > I can't say I'm experienced, I'm still trying to complete my > first (Sierra Albatros C.VII) and it requires a lot of > preparation work, but after that it is not so different from > an injection kit. > > Basic rules I learned from the pages Diego pointed: > > - Make a sanding board. I made mines from 1 cm particle > board, with the wet and dry paper fixed on the underside > with pins; > > - Use a thin permanent marker; > > - Score around the part at a 45 degree angle. > > I wish I learned that before ruining a Blackburn Iris wing, > many years ago. By the way, it's a lot easier to achieve a > thin and realistic trailing edge in wwi planes with vac > wings than trying to improve, say, an Airfix one. And it is > also a lot easier to detail the cockpit, due to the thin > plastic. > > I also have a Lloyd smiling at me, Joystick's C II. > > Best regards, > > Carlos ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:34:07 -0800 From: "Bob Laskodi" To: Subject: E.IV - topside famework Message-ID: <001701c2d9c7$0e7d30c0$2d3819d0@a8f1a1> <<>> Well, I guess you know my opinion on this! Actually, I have several pictures of Eindekkers in flight that clearly show the "sucking in" effect. Doesn't seem to be as pronounced on the topside as the bottom, though. I did use a bit of "artistic license" on mine, and will say it is a bit "over done". But then again, Hustad has numerous medals to show for his stuff so I'm not in bad company! I think it looks "cool" and that's all that matters to me! IMNSHO & YMMV --------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:33:09 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Vac-U-Phobia Message-ID: <20030221.093309.3528.19.mtngoat01@juno.com> Yo Merrill ! My Lloyd is next. I concur with you on the helpful links and advice from everyone. They are all in my "tips and techniques" folder now. Thanks everybody. --Clay On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:40:10 -0500 (EST) pfalzdvii@att.net writes: > I have built four vacs, with variable success, however, I appreciated > the links > from Philippe, and Diego, 'knowledge is power', and I'm still behind > the curve > on vacs. Clay, two things to keep in mind about vacs, one, be > careful sanding > the fuselage, it's easy to sand too much, and sometimes it's easier > > to 'scratch' some parts, especially control surfaces and > stabilizers, than to > sand down the vac parts. Other than that, GO For IT! > > -- > Merrill > Your Madness May Vary > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 15:00:52 +1100 From: Shane Jenkins - APMA Webmaster To: WW1 posts Subject: APMA Site update Message-ID: <3E584774.2020904@apma.org.au> Hi all, Yup, it's time for another APMA site update ;-) OT content this month comes from Glen Porter, Jim Travis and Graham Carter with some really supurb models - of course the other ot models are great as well. Regards, Shane Jenkins APMA Webmaster Having FUN making models http://apma.org.au Now with secure On-Line Ordering ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 15:02:28 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Bandicoots, Marines and Sa-Tis-Fac-Tion! Message-ID: <3E5847D4.1AB37A3E@tac.com.au> NEIL EDDY wrote: > Hoping to start a war between the states... Typical bloody Collingwood supporter ;-þ StY ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 03:50:40 +1100 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: Bandicoots, Marines and Sa-Tis-Fac-Tion! Message-ID: <027301c2d9c9$5e831ce0$fdf832d2@default> Hey! someone's got to do it! You two still coming to Melbourne? (we need to get your visas organised) :-p All the Best Neil E ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane & Lorna Jenkins" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 3:41 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Bandicoots, Marines and Sa-Tis-Fac-Tion! > NEIL EDDY wrote: > > > Hoping to start a war between the states... > > Typical bloody Collingwood supporter ;-þ > > StY ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:20:41 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: soft plastic painting Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B302BBEB43@TUFAO> I think I remember Steve was trying a basecoat of future on soft plastic figurines. Steve did it work? Will the paint hold better? TIA Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:37:26 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Comments on the weekend Message-ID: <20030221.103727.3528.27.mtngoat01@juno.com> I think that we in New Mexico have the most evil weed. It is called a goat-head, because the seed looks just exactly like that...the head of a goat. It is rock-hard, and the "horns" are like tiny ice-picks that imbed themselves without hesitation in your boots, skin, etc. about 1/8" deep. Neil, would you care for a few of these? I'll pack em up for you today. They make into perfect little herds of goats in 1/72. --Clay On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:49:47 -0500 (EST) "Shane Weier" writes: > Neil !!! > > > Oh no! > > >Weeds: Should be carefully pressed , change paper every other hour > for >the > >first day, then every day for a week or two. Finally pack carefully > and > >send them to me for id. > > I read this and ran down to the PO with a bale of excellent (free) > diorama > weeds for identification. > > >PS. The weeds thing is a JOKE, I'm having awful visions of getting > weeds > >from all over the world, which I can't identify, I have problems > enough > >identifying the ones we have, and we can't remove them without a > proper > >id-check. > > ...and when I got back I read that. My God, man, what a waste of > good > weeds. Still, Australia Post is most efficient (cv NKR Models) so > you should > have them in just over a week. If you really don't need them maybe > you can > pass them on to Pedro ? Or Michael Kendix or Fraser (since surely > with all > that snow they're short of weeds at the moment) > > Shane ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:38:42 +0000 From: To: Subject: Bad News for Breuget fans? Message-ID: <1045849122.3e566422436fb@netmail.pipex.net> Got the new issue of SAMI today (Vol 9/3 March 2003) which has the new kit listings for the year. Under the Azur/MPM/Special Hobby sections, it says 'All kit subjects previously listed under this manufacturer which are not shown above should be considered 'cancelled' for the foreseeable future' Amongst those not listed are the Breuget 14 and 19. I know SAMI are not 100% reliable on this, but this tallies with what I have heard elsewhere (I suspect the list CBR posted a year or so back was a 'WISH LIST'. Maybe our Czech correspondents might have more? Dave Fleming PS Oh, and the modelling gods have worked their evil way again- (ot alert) after I sanded out a Rareplanes P-59, we have an MPM one listed! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 16:09:00 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Bandicoots, Marines and Sa-Tis-Fac-Tion! Message-ID: <3E58576C.3D0E60A@tac.com.au> NEIL EDDY wrote: > > Hey! someone's got to do it! > > You two still coming to Melbourne? > > (we need to get your visas organised) > > :-p Yeah, we're still heading south to Mexico - visa & vaccinations are done. All we need now to do is arrange fumigation for the car on the way back at Albury ;-) Still not sure whether or not we'll take a traders table or not at the show, but should know by Sunday. Williamstown, Half Moon bay & Pt Cook are on the agenda if we can find time. StY ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 04:52:59 +1100 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: Bandicoots, Marines and Sa-Tis-Fac-Tion! Message-ID: <029001c2d9d2$12eee1c0$fdf832d2@default> Half Moon Bay! :- 0 You mean Cerebrus? Or..... All the best Neil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane & Lorna Jenkins" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 4:42 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Bandicoots, Marines and Sa-Tis-Fac-Tion! > NEIL EDDY wrote: > > > > Hey! someone's got to do it! > > > > You two still coming to Melbourne? > > > > (we need to get your visas organised) > > > > :-p > > Yeah, we're still heading south to Mexico - visa & vaccinations are > done. All we need now to do is arrange fumigation for the car on the way > back at Albury ;-) > > Still not sure whether or not we'll take a traders table or not at the > show, but should know by Sunday. Williamstown, Half Moon bay & Pt Cook > are on the agenda if we can find time. > > StY ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:58:16 +0100 From: "Philippe Spriesterbach" To: "Wwi" Subject: Vacform and fat fingers Message-ID: Really, It's not my day ;-)) I twice a post and now Clay said me that I've twiced the links :-(( The very link for the vac canopies is : http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/vaccanopiesrb_1.htm Sorry for the mistake. Philippe Spriesterbach http://users.skynet.be/fa233213 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:02:01 -0300 From: "Diego Ferneti" To: Subject: RE: APMA Site update Message-ID: <002901c2d9d3$55d144a0$4817a8c0@sssp.rosario.gov.ar> > OT content this month comes from Glen Porter, Jim Travis and Graham > Carter with some really supurb models - of course the other ot models > are great as well. Superb diorama by Mr. Carter! D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:13:30 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Favorite OT Aircraft Message-ID: <20030221.111331.3528.29.mtngoat01@juno.com> And quite nippy! They froze their behinds off without the heat of the engine in front of them. I love the pushers too. I built the Pegasus Gunbus, and have yet to build my Pegasus DH2. Vickers was fairly stuck on pusher aircraft all the way to the end of the war. I can't remember the name of the last one...I don't think it saw action, but it was beautiful (FB12? ... Dragon or something). Also the Farman F.40... --Clay On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:30:58 -0500 (EST) "Paul Wright" writes: > Howdy, y'all. Just curious why the fragile beauty of the Vickers FB5 > "Gun > Bus" hasn't elicited any votes for "favorite"?? (With the Airco DH2 > close > behind.) Hard to imagine how anyone in their right mind would have > sat down > in front of a few hundred pounds of hot, whirling metal...but the > view had > to be spectacular! > pj wright > dahlonega, georgia > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:23:12 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: R planes Message-ID: <20030221.112313.3528.31.mtngoat01@juno.com> Only 2 days left! I wonder what the Staaken R VI retailed for originally. I am sorely tempted to throw my hat in the ring. --Clay On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:49:57 -0500 (EST) Steve Cox writes: > > There's one on ebay at the moment > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3115207774 > > regards > Steve ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:24:34 +0100 From: grzegorz_mazurowski@poczta.onet.pl To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Bad News for Breuget fans? Message-ID: dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com napisa³: >Amongst those not listed are the Breuget 14 and 19. And what IS LISTED? G. --------------r-e-k-l-a-m-a----------------- Tanie bilety lotnicze! http://samoloty.onet.pl ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 5033 **********************