WWI Digest 5012 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Nieuport tale by "Matt Bittner" 2) Re: Happy End! by "Matt Bittner" 3) Re: Happy End! by "Matt Bittner" 4) Italian "Stripe & Ball" Nat'l Insignia (1914-18) Decals by RadspadMike@netscape.net 5) Re: Happy End! by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 6) Roden Albatross D.III by "Shane Weier" 7) List meeting - Sydney 4 or 5 March 2003 ?? by "Shane Weier" 8) DWC - covering query by "Bob Pearson" 9) Re: List meeting - Sydney 4 or 5 March 2003 ?? by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 10) RE: Brent's Explosive Vehicles was Sad day for modelers Part 3 by "WW1" 11) Blue Max Halbie by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 12) Roden kits in processing by Jan Vihonen 13) RE: Roden Albatross D.III by "Pedro N. Soares" 14) Re: Roden kits in processing by dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com 15) Ni 28 in 1/72! was RE: Roden kits in processing by Crawford Neil 16) Re: Roden kits in processing by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 17) Re: Ni 28 in 1/72! was RE: Roden kits in processing by dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com 18) Re: Roden kits in processing by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 19) Re: Ni 28 in 1/72! was RE: Roden kits in processing by Crawford Neil 20) Year of the 72 scale Allied Modeller by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 21) Re: Ni 28 in 1/72! was RE: Roden kits in processing by dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com 22) Re: WWI digest 5011 by "Patrick H Lewis" 23) Re: WWI digest 5011 by Crawford Neil 24) Re: Ni 28 in 1/72! was RE: Roden kits in processing by Jan Vihonen 25) Re: WWI digest 5011 by "Pedro N. Soares" 26) Re: WWI digest 5011 by dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com 27) Windsock 19.1 arrived by knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 28) Re: Thanks Everyone! by Crawford Neil 29) Re: Thanks Everyone! by dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com 30) Re: Thanks Everyone! by Crawford Neil 31) RE: DWC - covering query by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 32) RE: Italian "Stripe & Ball" Nat'l Insignia (1914-18) Decals by RadspadMike@netscape.net 33) New Model posted by Allan Wright 34) Re: WWI digest 5011 by Zulis@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:54:03 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Nieuport tale Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:48:28 -0500 (EST), Pedro Soares wrote: > I am under the impression that I've read somewhere that the rudder of > Nieuport aircraft only had that N (serial below) marking on the port side > (when it existed, cause sometimes it was just plain tricoleur). Am I right > or dreaming? For the most part, you are correct. N on the port only (along with the weights). The only thing on the starboard rudder would be the plane's serial number. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:54:39 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Happy End! Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:48:33 -0500 (EST), Steve Cox wrote: > It's a Contrail kit Clay. Staaken was bigger than than the HP's and the > Murometz But not as big as the Svyatogor. ;-) Matt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:57:41 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Happy End! Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:25:17 -0500 (EST), Carlos Carreira wrote: > Staaken: 41m span, 22m lenght; Wah! Svyatogor: 36m span, 21m length, six foot high wheels Shoot, thought I was onto something. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:37:31 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Italian "Stripe & Ball" Nat'l Insignia (1914-18) Decals Message-ID: <5E422835.766499B2.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Hi All, Just received the No. 18, Spring 2003 copy of Insignia magazine. Included is a set of Italian roundels and stripes decals for the Caudron G.3 lower wing surfaces for the HR Resin or Roseplane vacform and roundels and stripes for Nie. IV M; for use with A-Model injection kit. I don't do these aircraft in 1/72. First OFFLIST reply can have them. Please send snail mail address. Mike Kavanaugh __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:18:31 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Happy End! Message-ID: <3E4C7C27.81864D82@tac.com.au> Carlos Carreira wrote: > Staaken: 41m span, 22m lenght; > Muromets: 28m span, 17,1 lenght; > 0/400: 30,5m span, 19m lenght; > V/1500: 38,4 span, 19m lenght; > Boeing B-17: 31.6m span, 22.8m lenght; > Boeing B-29: 43.3m span, 30.1m lenght. > > As I said, it is BIG! > > The kit is an old Contrail vacform, dating from 1979. But > I'm sure Roden will make it someday. Not before I start mine I hope ;-) StY ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:18:08 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Roden Albatross D.III Message-ID: Hi all, Somewhat belatedly, since this happened days ago but I've been too busy to write much, I have a question for listees who may have finished (or are working on) the Roden Albatros D.III When it came time to mount the upper wing I used the kit cabane struts attached to the wing first, then sprung the assembly into place onto the fuselage. The damn thing sits *way* too high IMO, both by reference to photos and to Ian Stair's drawings. Has anyone finished the kit and has an opinion on the sit of the upper wing they're willing to share? I wasn't happy to leave it there, so I shortened the interplane struts and made new cabanes. Too damn idle to build a proper jig for the job I temporised with a lego and blue tac contraption and ended up with the upper wing about 1mm too far forward and the leading cabane strut not quite angled back enough :-( Now I'm p'ed off since while the model is just a slammer for a club theme contest I'd rather do it properly than not - but don't have time to pull it apart and fix it Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:23:09 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: List meeting - Sydney 4 or 5 March 2003 ?? Message-ID: Hi all For the Sydney area listees - is anyone up to meeting in Sydney on the evening of 4 or 5 March ? I'll be there for a conference and am willing (VERY willing) to avoid the conference cocktail party and/or formal dinner in favour of another list meeting! Shane tE ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:36:55 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: DWC - covering query Message-ID: <104520105901@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com> Hi all, I just contacted the committee to get the cash for the next stage in the DWC and that will be ordering the covering materials. I've been checking a couple of websites and am wondering about the differences between, the colours I need are Olive Drab, yellow, and then red, white and blue for the markings - or should these just be painted on? Solartex - has OD and yellow Coverite 21st Century fabric - sounds right, but no OD Coverite 21st century film - has OD, but no yellow For the floats and nose of the DWC I'm thinking of using balsa sheets. Would 1/16" x 3" (or 4") be acceptable and then cover that with an aluminum coloured iron on covering . .. OOOOOoooo I see that I could get various sizes of polar plywood from 1/16x12x48 on up to 1/16x12x48. . there is also 1/64 birch plywood in 48x48 sizes .. that one is probably too thin. --- decisions, decisions. Only problem is after doing one for someone else, I may have to do one for myself ... and then do I add the stuff to make it fly ..... NOT!!!!! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:55:11 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: List meeting - Sydney 4 or 5 March 2003 ?? Message-ID: <3E4C84BF.2AEE821E@tac.com.au> Shane Weier wrote: > > Hi all > > For the Sydney area listees - is anyone up to meeting in Sydney on the > evening of 4 or 5 March ? Yup no worries ;-) > I'll be there for a conference and am willing (VERY willing) to avoid the > conference cocktail party and/or formal dinner in favour of another list > meeting! Hmmm, maybe a visit to that Hungarian restuarant is on the cards again ;-) S & L ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 07:52:29 -0300 From: "WW1" To: Subject: RE: Brent's Explosive Vehicles was Sad day for modelers Part 3 Message-ID: John wrote: > Hey D, > Be careful.....Vinnie is my cousin.......BADA BING!! Which Vinnie? Vinnnie "the wrench" or "one-shot" Vinnie? Anyway, give Vincenzo a hug from "Chopper"! > Any other Listees on Long Island?? we can have a real-time "Gathering" > when Brent is out here! I guess he will love a river dance with concrete shoes! D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 05:54:20 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Blue Max Halbie Message-ID: <000701c2d417$76e9b800$9e3e5b0c@millipore.com> Chris has announced a Halberstadt D.II in 1/48 for 2003/2004. Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:12:17 +0200 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Roden kits in processing Message-ID: <3E4CCF11.5F289AA0@helsinki.fi> Sorry if this is already an old news but I just checked the Roden site and found these OT kits to be "in processing". There's even a Nieuport in correct scale for Matt. Cool. Felixstowe F.2A (late) 1:72 - - Felixstowe F.2A 1:72 - - Gotha G.Va, G.Vb 1:72 - - RAF S.E.5a w/Hispano Suiza 1:72 - - Albatros W4(late) 1:72 - 03.2003 De Havilland D.H.9 1:72 - - Sopwith F.1 Camel 1:72 - - Junkers D.1 1:72 - - Bristol F2B Fighter 1:72 - 03.2003 Sopwith 2F.1 Camel 1:72 - - Nieuport 28 1:72 - - Sopwith 1½ Strutter comic fighter 1:48 - - Sopwith 1.B1 French Bomber 1:48 - Jan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:15:03 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Roden Albatross D.III Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B302B22BB8@TUFAO> Another man's loss is another man's gain ;-) I'm still a looking way from putting the wing in place. Thanks for the heads up Shane. BTW, on that dinner in Sidney, on the 4th, be sure to have a glass for Barbara and me. It's now becoming a tradition to have Lorna & the Shanes (wow, what a cracking name and hey, wasn't Ross also there the last time?) celabrating our anniversary..... ;-). hmmmmm, This will be a perfect occasion for me to open that Australian bottle we've talked about Pedro > > Hi all, > > Somewhat belatedly, since this happened days ago but I've > been too busy to > write much, I have a question for listees who may have > finished (or are > working on) the Roden Albatros D.III > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:23:19 +0000 From: dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Roden kits in processing Message-ID: <1045221799.3e4cd1a750fc2@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Jan Vihonen : > > Sorry if this is already an old news but I just checked the Roden site > and found these OT kits to be "in processing". There's even a Nieuport > in correct scale for Matt. Cool. > > Nieuport 28 1:72 - - Interesting that everyone had this as a 1/48th. Thinking about the DH9, if they do this right they can get a DH4 & US DH4 from the moulds as well - different fuselages, right? - more easily than a DH9A (longer wings, different forward fuselage) BTW, like the Bristol Fighter box art! http://www.rodenplant.com/IMG/043/043.jpg Dave F ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 12:24:02 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Ni 28 in 1/72! was RE: Roden kits in processing Message-ID: WOW! We knew about the rest, but the Nieuport 28 in 1/72 is big news. I suppose the 1/48 Ni28 mentioned previously was wrong. Oh and, Hi Jan, long time since we heard from you. /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jan Vihonen [mailto:jan.vihonen@helsinki.fi] > Sent: den 14 februari 2003 12:13 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Roden kits in processing > > > > Sorry if this is already an old news but I just checked the Roden site > and found these OT kits to be "in processing". There's even a Nieuport > in correct scale for Matt. Cool. > > Felixstowe F.2A (late) 1:72 - - > Felixstowe F.2A 1:72 - - > Gotha G.Va, G.Vb 1:72 - - > RAF S.E.5a w/Hispano Suiza 1:72 - - > Albatros W4(late) 1:72 - 03.2003 > De Havilland D.H.9 1:72 - - > Sopwith F.1 Camel 1:72 - - > Junkers D.1 1:72 - - > Bristol F2B Fighter 1:72 - 03.2003 > Sopwith 2F.1 Camel 1:72 - - > Nieuport 28 1:72 - - > Sopwith 1½ Strutter comic fighter 1:48 - - > Sopwith 1.B1 French Bomber 1:48 - > > > Jan > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:29:09 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Roden kits in processing Message-ID: <1045222149.3e4cd305692d8@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Jan Vihonen : > De Havilland D.H.9 1:72 - - Now the photo shows a DH9A....... > Sopwith F.1 Camel 1:72 - - Nice box art: http://www.rodenplant.com/IMG/040/040.jpg >> Nieuport 28 1:72 - - > I think 1/72 is a typo - it's in with the other 1/48th stuff Dave Fleming ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:31:18 +0000 From: dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Ni 28 in 1/72! was RE: Roden kits in processing Message-ID: <1045222278.3e4cd386316f5@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Crawford Neil : > WOW! We knew about the rest, but the Nieuport 28 in 1/72 is big > news. I suppose the 1/48 Ni28 mentioned previously was wrong. > Oh and, Hi Jan, long time since we heard from you. > /Neil C. > Don't get your hopes too high - I suspect it's a typo on Roden's part. (BTW, my latent interest in ot pt 2 German Armoured cars could be reopened!) Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:33:12 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Roden kits in processing Message-ID: <1045222392.3e4cd3f8d74a8@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting xtv16@dial.pipex.com: > > De Havilland D.H.9 1:72 - - > > Now the photo shows a DH9A....... > Actually, looking through a magnifier, I think it shows a DH9 - guess my eyes need testing!! Dave Fleming ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 12:35:44 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Ni 28 in 1/72! was RE: Roden kits in processing Message-ID: It say's 1/72 on the Mohawk too, can't remember what Hannats said about that one? /Neil C. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:53:07 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Year of the 72 scale Allied Modeller Message-ID: <1045223587.3e4cd8a3a9414@netmail.pipex.net> Thinking about the comment re needing PC-10 by the gallon this year made me think can I do them in British markings all with minimal PC-10? :-) Eduard Spad XIII - no bother, French 5 colour DH2 - early production in overall CDL Roden Bristol Fighter - Mmmm, my first will be post war silver Felixstowe - need I say more (although my perverse side might do a 'plain' one!) Camel F1 - Plenty of training depot colourful Camels Camel 2F1 - Moore's Red & white one at turnhouse (Scottish connection too) DH9 - zigzag white one from the DF - OK, some PC10 (or PC12), but not boring!! Pegasus SPAD 7 - French CDL Who said British forces were all the same & boring? :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:53:51 +0000 From: dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Ni 28 in 1/72! was RE: Roden kits in processing Message-ID: <1045223631.3e4cd8cfdc02a@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Crawford Neil : > It say's 1/72 on the Mohawk too, can't remember what Hannats said about > that > one? 1/48th ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 06:18:02 -0600 From: "Patrick H Lewis" To: Subject: Re: WWI digest 5011 Message-ID: <000a01c2d423$1fbb2ee0$e6d1b241@u00t2> > PET is Poly Ethylene Terphthalate. It is a polyester. Terphthalate, besides being the root word with the longest string of consonants in the English language, is a benzene ring with two -CO2- (Carboxylic acid function) groups arranged on opposite corners (Benzene is a flat, six-carbon ring. Draw a hexagon, number the angles. Terphthalate is 'substituted' on the 1 and 4 positions.) PET is used for plastic soda bottles because it is totally harmless, has nothing that can dissolve out of it into the drink, and prevents gas exchange (polyethylene is used in milk bottles, but it will allow carbon dioxide and oxygen through the plastic - not a problem in the short shelf life for fresh milk) > > Other Phthalates have been in the news in recent months - the one with the two carboxylate groups on adjacent carbons (1,2 substituted) is Phthalic acid - its derivatives with eight carbons in an 'ester' chain are typically used in PolyVinyl Chloride plastics to make them 'flexible' (auto 'vinyl' parts, plastic swimming pools, etc.). This type of flexible PVC is used in medical IV bags, and some are questioning whether it should be. The "dioctyl phthalate plasticizer" is known to leach out into the product, and doctors and health researchers are split as to whether that is a risk. The problem is that there is nothing that quite does the job as well. > > Recycled pop-bottles make excellent feedstock for things like paintbrush bristles, clothing polyester fiber, polyester fiberfill for pillows and quilts, etc. It is one of the best recyclable plastics. Polyethylene and polypropylene are next, though the tend to 'scorch' in reprocessing. PVC is almost totally non-recyclable. > > .Mark. Jayzus! And what does all of that have to do with WW1 modeling?!? Nothing... and by a long chalk as near as I can tell. I don't mind being "blinded with science", but is it too much to ask to keep it ON TOPIC and worth reading. Usually, this list has a thing or two that's worth our time...I fail to see how the above fits into the picture. I hate to sound like a "crank", but this info is of little or no value. Now, if you could prove that Voss' cowl was covered with the stuff...;-) With all due respect, Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:22:11 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: WWI digest 5011 Message-ID: Just don't bother reading it, if you dont like it. I don't understand any of it. but it's nice to know someone does. Makes more sense than most of the junk I write! /Neil C. > Jayzus! > > And what does all of that have to do with WW1 modeling?!? > Nothing... and by > a long chalk as near as I can tell. I don't mind being "blinded with > science", but is it too much to ask to keep it ON TOPIC and > worth reading. > Usually, this list has a thing or two that's worth our > time...I fail to see > how the above fits into the picture. I hate to sound like a > "crank", but > this info is of little or no value. Now, if you could prove > that Voss' cowl > was covered with the stuff...;-) > > With all due respect, > > Patrick > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:24:58 +0200 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Ni 28 in 1/72! was RE: Roden kits in processing Message-ID: <3E4CE01A.FB6F061A@helsinki.fi> Hi Neil (and others, too). > Oh and, Hi Jan, long time since we heard from you. Yep. Life (both work and private) intervenend my quiet idyl and have since been hideously busy in both fronts. No modelling, not even time to hang on with the wwi list. Until now, hopefully. Jan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 12:25:15 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WWI digest 5011 Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B302B22CFB@TUFAO> > > Just don't bother reading it, if you dont like it. I don't > understand any of it. but it's nice to know someone does. > Makes more sense than most of the junk I write! > /Neil C. filling in for Pedro Soares ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 12:34:36 +0000 From: dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: WWI digest 5011 Message-ID: <1045226076.3e4ce25c9d033@netmail.pipex.net> I have some sympathy with Patrick - getting the list in digest mode, you have to wade through the 'off topic' stuff more than you do in 'normal' mode. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:55:02 +0100 (CET) From: knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Windsock 19.1 arrived Message-ID: <20030214125502.C9DF0342F3@login-3.eunet.no> Hei, Windsock 19.1 for January/February just arrived in my mailbox, there is a most impressive DH2 built by Tom Morgan from the Blue Max kit. It has to be seen to be believed - I am lost for words. Other highlights include colour photos of a Venezuelan Caudron G.III and US DH4 along with an article by the late J.M. Bruce on the latter. There are also drawings from original manuals for the US DH4, Airco DH9A, Bristol F2b Fighter, Sopwith Snipe and Salamander. More useful documention is in the shape of colour photos of the RAFM Sopwith Strutter and a presentation of Mayrhofers Oeffag replicas. Eders Knut Erik ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:13:35 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Thanks Everyone! Message-ID: We're better! (that was for all those awful cracks about badgers) /Neil C. > > Dave 'Ming > > Curling! Now there's a sport we're good at! > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:20:44 +0000 From: dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Thanks Everyone! Message-ID: <1045228844.3e4ced2cf1a43@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Crawford Neil : > We're better! (that was for all those awful cracks about badgers) > /Neil C. > Not at the Women's game in the Olympics! Is that Swedish Neil or English Neil? To get OT, I see Hannants now have the Amodel Nie IV (£8ish) and Eduard Junkers J1s (non-profi - £12ish, Profi £17ish) Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:30:43 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Thanks Everyone! Message-ID: > > Not at the Women's game in the Olympics! > I was hoping you'd forgot that, we sent the wrong team, > Is that Swedish Neil or English Neil? The usual mixed-up one, in curling I tend to support Sweden, but will happily flip to support whichever side is winning. Footballs the other way around. > > To get OT, I see Hannants now have the Amodel Nie IV (£8ish) > and Eduard Junkers > J1s (non-profi - £12ish, Profi £17ish) Thats not really terribly expensive, you get lots of plastic for 12 quid, £5 for a bit of brass is perhaps a little steep? /Neil C. > Dave > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 07:45:32 -0600 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: Subject: RE: DWC - covering query Message-ID: Hi Bob, IMHO, I would go with using paint for the markings. For instance, it may be easier to make a painting template for the wing stars rather than assembling individual stars using the covering material. It would probably also be cheaper, as well as more historically accurate. I'd still go with the 1/16" plywood for the float covering. It would be less apt to split if the completed floats were "twisted" while being moved. I wouldn't trust the delicate balsa to refrain from splitting under such stress. Plus it gives a much stronger, damage resistant structure. Paul -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Bob Pearson Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 11:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] DWC - covering query Hi all, I just contacted the committee to get the cash for the next stage in the DWC and that will be ordering the covering materials. I've been checking a couple of websites and am wondering about the differences between, the colours I need are Olive Drab, yellow, and then red, white and blue for the markings - or should these just be painted on? Solartex - has OD and yellow Coverite 21st Century fabric - sounds right, but no OD Coverite 21st century film - has OD, but no yellow For the floats and nose of the DWC I'm thinking of using balsa sheets. Would 1/16" x 3" (or 4") be acceptable and then cover that with an aluminum coloured iron on covering . .. OOOOOoooo I see that I could get various sizes of polar plywood from 1/16x12x48 on up to 1/16x12x48. . there is also 1/64 birch plywood in 48x48 sizes .. that one is probably too thin. --- decisions, decisions. Only problem is after doing one for someone else, I may have to do one for myself ... and then do I add the stuff to make it fly ..... NOT!!!!! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:57:15 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Italian "Stripe & Ball" Nat'l Insignia (1914-18) Decals Message-ID: <44D502BD.78A1D59A.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Subject decals are gone. Mike Kavanaugh __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:22:07 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: New Model posted Message-ID: <200302141422.JAA56385@mustang.sr.unh.edu> Daniel Clamont send in a nice Roden AH Albatros - link on the news page. Enjoy, Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 10:32:06 -0500 From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WWI digest 5011 Message-ID: <23083F4D.62258BB3.000121E7@aol.com> dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com writes: < I have some sympathy with Patrick - getting the list in digest mode, you have to wade through the 'off topic' stuff more than you do in 'normal' mode. Dave > Well, I for one think we are hugely lucky to have such a knowledgable chemist on board. Sometimes the detail runs a bit deep, but I can move along if it veers too far into the obscure. As for OT / ot, I think we (myself included) are guilty of a lot of silly stuff which is great fun but must be pretty annoying for someone not in the mood for it. It is part of the flavour of this list, but surely must test the patience of some listees. I appreciate that they rarely complain about it. My 2 canadian cents' worth... Dave Z ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 5012 **********************