WWI Digest 4993

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Scottish time? was RE: Re: Announcing...
	by xtv16@dial.pipex.com
  2) Re: Aeroclub BE12s in 1/48th now at Hannants
	by BRENT THEOBALD <brent524@comcast.net>
  3) Re: Aeroclub BE12s in 1/48th now at Hannants
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
  4) Re: Site updates
	by Karen Rychlewski <krychski@earthlink.net>
  5) RE: Putty suitable for vacs
	by "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
  6) Re: Putty suitable for vacs
	by tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner)
  7) Re: Putty suitable for vacs
	by "Diego Ferneti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
  8) RE: 1913 racers
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
  9) RE: Announcing...
	by "Diego Ferneti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 10) Re: Putty suitable for vacs
	by Casirati Alberto <a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it>
 11) Re: brush it
	by Balzer Mr Gregory P <balzergp@tecom.usmc.mil>
 12) Ansaldo A-1: visit to the restoration worshops
	by Casirati Alberto <a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it>
 13) Re: anybody know?
	by Ken Schmitt <knnths@mchsi.com>
 14) Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list
	by Balzer Mr Gregory P <balzergp@tecom.usmc.mil>
 15) Re: brush it
	by ot811 <ot811@msbx.net>
 16) Re: anybody know?
	by "Diego Ferneti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 17) Re: Fuselage lacing on the E.III (or E.IV)
	by Balzer Mr Gregory P <balzergp@tecom.usmc.mil>
 18) RE: Announcing...
	by Balzer Mr Gregory P <balzergp@tecom.usmc.mil>
 19) RE: 1913 racers
	by MARK MILLER <mark_.m@sbcglobal.net>
 20) Re: Ansaldo A-1: visit to the restoration worshops
	by MARK MILLER <mark_.m@sbcglobal.net>
 21) Re: Site updates
	by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" <Grzegorz_Mazurowski@poczta.onet.pl>
 22) Re: Ansaldo A-1: visit to the restoration worshops
	by RadspadMike@netscape.net
 23) Re: Site updates
	by pfalzdvii@att.net
 24) Re: brush it
	by "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
 25) Re: Nieuport 28
	by "Graham Nash" <graham.nash1@ntlworld.com>
 26) RE: 1913 racers
	by Karen Rychlewski <krychski@earthlink.net>
 27) Fe2b gun mountings
	by Allan Wright <aew>
 28) Re: Fe2b gun mountings
	by ot811 <ot811@msbx.net>
 29) Re: Aeroclub BE12s in 1/48th now at Hannants
	by "Shane Weier" <bristolf2b@hotmail.com>

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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 15:42:51 +0000
From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Scottish time? was RE: Re: Announcing...
Message-ID: <1044632571.3e43d3fb8406e@netmail.pipex.net>


Quoting Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>:

> 
> And it's 4.35 here now, so I should be logged on at 23.00 Saturday.

Aha, all is clear. Yes, that would be right, my Dad flew to Denmark last week, 
took three hours to get there and one hour to get back, flight time both ways 
two hours!

Dave



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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 10:08:21 -0600
From: BRENT THEOBALD <brent524@comcast.net>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Aeroclub BE12s in 1/48th now at Hannants
Message-ID: <b42e2b054a.b054ab42e2@icomcast.net>

Howdy!

Boy those things are interesting in a really ugly way. What's the 
phrase? "Built-in 100mph headwind"?

I like to think those aircraft were designed when the British were 
trying to prove the laws of aerodynamics did not apply on the left side 
of the Channel. Too bad they had to fight on the right side!

Hah! Or, "I Finally found an aircraft you couldn't say was prettier 
than a helicopter".

I need to pick one of these up to go with my Re-8.

Later!

Brent



----- Original Message -----
From: dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com
Date: Friday, February 7, 2003 9:35 am
Subject: [WWI] Aeroclub BE12s in 1/48th now at Hannants

> 
> 
> http://www.hannants.co.uk/cgi-
> bin/search.pl?Mode=view&Database=new&R=ABK48446
> http://www.hannants.co.uk/cgi-
> bin/search.pl?Mode=view&Database=new&R=ABK48447
> 
> 


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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 17:14:46 +0100 
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Aeroclub BE12s in 1/48th now at Hannants
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A0D169F83@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>

Nix, no way, not even a competition, no aircraft BE-12 included
is as ugly as any helicopter.
/Neil C's not at all humble opinion!

 
> Hah! Or, "I Finally found an aircraft you couldn't say was prettier 
> than a helicopter".
> 
> I need to pick one of these up to go with my Re-8.
> 
> Later!
> 
> Brent
 

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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 11:17:16 -0500
From: Karen Rychlewski <krychski@earthlink.net>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Site updates
Message-ID: <3E43DC0C.B2EB6805@earthlink.net>



Shane Weier wrote:

> Extremely nice model of a desperately homely aeroplane

Hey mon! Homely is in the eye of the beholder--I think it's kinda cool. But
then I'm partial to Polish planes; we Poles take what we can get...

> ......which was worth
> taking two years over !

Hmmm...here in the Northern Hemisphere, that 'weekend' took 7 months--but,
having recently returned from sunny, warm southern places, I know how time
slows down the further south one goes.

But thanks, Shane (and others) for the nice words about the build. **warning:
confession time** This being the first airplane kit I've completed in about
ten years, I'm somewhat surprised myself that I actually finished it. If I
hadn't joined the list, it wouldn't have taken even the 7 months: youse guys
just filled my head with all sorts of tips and tricks that I wanted to try
out. Like Future under and over decals, re-attaching control surfaces with
teensy bits of square plastic stock, metallic colored pencil for detailing
'metal' parts, and a host of others. If our newer listees think this group is
just fun and games, toads, Nieuports, and flying shoes, veering at times
towards multifarious quasi-sar/sexism of underwear choices, kinky sanding
techniques, and testosterone strine levels--stick around: there's meaty stuff
inserted every now and then     :-))

Dame Karen (recently returned from the Lesser Antilles to the Greater Ohio
River Valley, where the white stuff on the ground isn't sand)


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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 10:32:09 -0600
From: "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: Putty suitable for vacs
Message-ID: <se438b3c.014@mail1-fs.amerus.com>

Alberto wants:

"... alternative putty ...for 1/72nd scale vacs ?"

After Matt turned me on to it, I am pretty much sold on Stucco, which
is very similar to the Squadron white putty; creamier and softer,
actually, out of the tube, and thins very nicely.

And it's from Italy, so I would think you could find it without much
trouble!

Lance

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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:37:14 -0600 (CST)
From: tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner)
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Putty suitable for vacs
Message-ID: <200302071637.h17GbEK07933@king1.kingsnake.com>


> After Matt turned me on to it, I am pretty much sold on Stucco, which
> is very similar to the Squadron white putty; creamier and softer,
> actually, out of the tube, and thins very nicely.

Twasn't me.  I use autobody filler.  Maybe you're thinking of Kent
Kirkpatrick?


Matt
 


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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 13:43:12 -0300
From: "Diego Ferneti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Putty suitable for vacs
Message-ID: <005d01c2cec8$010549a0$4817a8c0@sssp.rosario.gov.ar>

> Twasn't me.  I use autobody filler.  Maybe you're thinking of Kent
> Kirkpatrick?

What? another alias?
D.


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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 17:49:54 +0100 
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: 1913 racers
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A0D169F84@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>

 
I made some scans from a book I bought yesterday:
"Taschenbuch der luftflotten 1914"

I bought it because the Deperdussin drawing actually has a 
spanwidth marked on it.  The Albatross is the "Bodensee" racer.
The LVG I scanned for the truck, but it does say racer-LVG, 
never heard of it  before.
Does anyone want these scans, I've already sent them to the obvious suspects.
I think Mark Miller and Karen were interested in WW1 trucks? . Apart
from the cool LVG carrier, there is a Renault that I could scan if required.
The scans are 657K in total.
Have a nice weekend
 /Neil 
 

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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 13:52:19 -0300
From: "Diego Ferneti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: Announcing...
Message-ID: <00b201c2cec9$471fa600$4817a8c0@sssp.rosario.gov.ar>

Gee, 8 PM Argie time. How to sneak out to peek the messages a saturday near
dinner time at the in-laws? hmmmm...< Insert "Mission Impossible" music
here>
D.

----- Original Message -----
From: Clay W Fulcher <mtngoat01@juno.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 11:57 AM
Subject: [WWI] Announcing...


> Folks,
> It is Friday, so I wanted to post this heads-up one last time before
> tomorrow. On Saturday February 8 (Sunday for the Aussies) I will post a
> new list of kits I picked up for cheap, and these prices will be passed
> directly to you plus shipping, if you would like to grab one. It will be
> first-come-first-serve basis. I'll post the list at 3:00 pm N. America
> Mountain Time.
>
> 3:00 pm US Mountain time is
>
> 10:00 pm Greenwich Mean Time ( I think)
>
> 2:00 pm US Pacific Time
>
> 4:00 pm US Central Time
>
> 5:00 pm US Eastern Time
>
> 8:00 am Sunday Feburary 9, Somewhere in Australia.
>
> Cheers!
> Clay
>
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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 17:49:36 +0100 
From: Casirati Alberto <a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it>
To: "'Wwi@Wwi-Models. Org (wwi@wwi-models.org)'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Putty suitable for vacs
Message-ID: <F1FFBD5638A6C24EA01F1ED79520CCB3078A6A@az-srv2>

First of all, a big thank you to all those who could find the time to answer
to my questions and to offer their generous help.

The reason why I mentioned Squadron is that it is not so hard when dry and I
found that, using it sparingly, it does not damage the soft and thin vac
plastic. 
I prefer to limit the use of Milliput to the strengthening role, but I also
will look for Vallejo's putty, as it could be of much use.

Thanks to all of you !

Alberto Casirati


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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:51:20 -0500 
From: Balzer Mr Gregory P <balzergp@tecom.usmc.mil>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: brush it
Message-ID: <A8FAA23AE223204EB354664839C722F042CD2E@tecom.usmc.mil>

Bob, et al.,
I have one a Jager's resin 1/48 DVIIs. Was going to use automotive primer,
but after your discourse on the superior qualities of Mr. Surfacer 1000, I'm
wondering if it'll work on resin as well? 

Second question, what do you use for clean up (seems like it would take a
lot of Mr. Color thinner to clean up, there's got to be some generic product
at significantly lesser cost) and how difficult would that be using an
Aztek?? Any comments from the collective wisdom?
Greg  

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Laskodi [mailto:laskodi@launchnet.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 5:55 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: [WWI] Re: brush it


<<<1. Has anyone successfully used a thinner with tamiya other than Tamia's
own
thinner?>>>
Yes, I have! Tamiya paints do thin with virtually any common acrylic-type
thinner but I do not like the end results with regards to color evenness and
fragility. I have used Tamiya paints with virtually every thinner known to
mankind and can state that the only other thinner (besides their own stuff)
that gives me good results (IMNSHO) is lacquer thinner. I prefer Mr. Color
Thinner but it does work with the "hardware store variety" also. This
statement does not apply to their clear colors. For those, I have found that
Polly Scale Airbrush Thinner, and plain old isopropyl alcohol will work just
fine and dandy.
<<<2. I'm considering airbrushing Mr. Surfacer as a primer.  Is it better to
use 1000 (less thick) or 500 (thicker)?  I understand Mr. Color thinner is
the best to use.  How thin should the final mixture be?  Do you use a little
thinner or quite a lot to avoid the spider webs?>>>
Mr. Surfacer is by far the best primer available for model work. The
automotive type primers are very good, but IMNSHO nothing beats Mr.
Surfacer. The ability of this stuff to go down in very thin coats to not
obscure detail is magic, and once fully cured is fully sandable and able to
"feather" in to the surface completely undetectable. You can also polish it
to a mirror-like finish for you NMF devotees. I use Mr. Surfacer 1000 for
all my airbrush work, thinned 1:1 with Mr. Color Thinner, sprayed at 20 psi,
and have never had a problem airbrushing it. You must thin it! There is no
way 1000 straight from the bottle will airbrush properly. Mr. Surfacer 1000
and 500 are supposedly identical in formula, the only difference is in how
thick it is, with 500 being very thick and not sprayable at all (it would
probably work if you thinned it 1:10, but I have never tried it).
YMMV, and HTH
---------Bob


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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 17:56:07 +0100 
From: Casirati Alberto <a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it>
To: "'Wwi@Wwi-Models. Org (wwi@wwi-models.org)'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Ansaldo A-1: visit to the restoration worshops
Message-ID: <F1FFBD5638A6C24EA01F1ED79520CCB3078A6C@az-srv2>

Tomorrow I will drive to the GAVS workshops in Turin, for my usual
supervising visit. 

The Ansaldo A-1 restoration project is about 60% done, and since the
aircraft is still disassembled, I wonder whether any listee is interested in
any particular aspect of this machine (now in an interesting stage from the
modelling point of view). 

If so, jus ask, and I will do my best in getting those info for you, or the
pictures you need.

Please remember to reply within the next 13 hours at the following address:
a.casirati@lombardiacom.it

Have a nice weekend,

Alberto Casirati


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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 11:05:11 -0600
From: Ken Schmitt <knnths@mchsi.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: anybody know?
Message-ID: <BA694367.29A0%knnths@mchsi.com>

Clay-
> I'll post the list at 3:00 pm N. America
> Mountain Time.

Wait, you're going too fast - where is Mickey's big hand and where is
Mickey's lil' hand?


-Goofy


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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:01:36 -0500 
From: Balzer Mr Gregory P <balzergp@tecom.usmc.mil>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list
Message-ID: <A8FAA23AE223204EB354664839C722F042CD30@tecom03e.tecom.usmc.mil>

Shane,
I'm impressed with your command of global military time! Sheepishly I must
admit I left most of that behind when I retired. The only good it did me was
to coordinate my once weekly comfort calls to the Little Bird Back Home
while deployed!!
:-)
Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: Shane Weier [mailto:bristolf2b@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 7:40 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: [WWI] Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list


Clay says:

>If you are on list digest mode, I can cc you personally when I post the
>new list of kits. Oh...3:00 pm mountain time is still the time, which >is 
>5:00 pm Eastern

For listees confused by internationally meaningless terms like "Eastern 
Time" and "Mountain Time", Mountain time is UTC-7 and Eastern Time is UTC-5

(UTC is Greenwich time, Zulu time for those of us ex-military)

So Tango to Kilo is 17 hours - 8am in Brisbane on the following day, so if 
you post Sunday the Eastern Australians will be at work.

Shane

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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:04:10 -0500
From: ot811 <ot811@msbx.net>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: brush it
Message-ID: <20030207170627.81424690BC5@mail.mailsnare.net>

>take a
>lot of Mr. Color thinner to clean up, there's got to be some generic
>product
>at significantly lesser cost) and how difficult would that be using
---- Greg,
   I use Lacquer thinner (pretty cheap) from Home Depot.
Pretty powerful and effective stuff.
Also supposed to be dangerous.  I had a small adventure with it and 
my sink counter-top.
regards
Sanjeev





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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:16:13 -0300
From: "Diego Ferneti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: anybody know?
Message-ID: <00ff01c2cecc$9d978b80$4817a8c0@sssp.rosario.gov.ar>

Where were you located Keano?
Anyway, check this out
http://www.bsdi.com/xdate
D.
Question to Goofy: What the h... are you? A dog? So how come you are a
friend of a mouse, who owns a dog? Are you a Naglo or something?

----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Schmitt <knnths@mchsi.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 2:05 PM
Subject: [WWI] Re: anybody know?


> Clay-
> > I'll post the list at 3:00 pm N. America
> > Mountain Time.
>
> Wait, you're going too fast - where is Mickey's big hand and where is
> Mickey's lil' hand?
>
>
> -Goofy
>


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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:15:36 -0500 
From: Balzer Mr Gregory P <balzergp@tecom.usmc.mil>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Fuselage lacing on the E.III (or E.IV)
Message-ID: <A8FAA23AE223204EB354664839C722F042CD31@tecom03e.tecom.usmc.mil>

Archer does in fact offer scale stitching transfers. Used them on my Dr. 1
to good effect. Apply PRIOR to Future as they do not adhere well to the
smooth surface, and rub off very easily until properly clear coated. 

They are EXPENSIVE for such a simple application though. Something like $12
US for a sheet that'll provide stitching for about 6 aircraft.
Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Kendix [mailto:mkendix@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 8:59 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: [WWI] Re: Fuselage lacing on the E.III (or E.IV)


>From: pfalzdvii@att.net
>Doesn't Archer offer lacing and stitching dry transfers? Much >more 'scale'

>than the PE fro Eduard or Part.

Maybe.  Actually, I thought Eduard's Profipack was a decal.  i can easily 
make such a thing myself anyway.

What about drawing it on with a fine pen or marker?

Michael


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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:33:19 -0500 
From: Balzer Mr Gregory P <balzergp@tecom.usmc.mil>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: Announcing...
Message-ID: <A8FAA23AE223204EB354664839C722F042CD32@tecom03e.tecom.usmc.mil>

Clay...
Uhhhhh ~ Thanks, I needed that!
Greg
The spatially challenged jarhead on the East Coast

-----Original Message-----
From: Clay W Fulcher [mailto:mtngoat01@juno.com]
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:58 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: [WWI] Announcing...


Folks,
It is Friday, so I wanted to post this heads-up one last time before
tomorrow. On Saturday February 8 (Sunday for the Aussies) I will post a
new list of kits I picked up for cheap, and these prices will be passed
directly to you plus shipping, if you would like to grab one. It will be
first-come-first-serve basis. I'll post the list at 3:00 pm N. America
Mountain Time.

3:00 pm US Mountain time is

10:00 pm Greenwich Mean Time ( I think)

2:00 pm US Pacific Time

4:00 pm US Central Time

5:00 pm US Eastern Time

8:00 am Sunday Feburary 9, Somewhere in Australia.

Cheers!
Clay

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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:46:27 -0800 (PST)
From: MARK MILLER <mark_.m@sbcglobal.net>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE: 1913 racers
Message-ID: <20030207174627.77195.qmail@web80007.mail.yahoo.com>

did somebody say trucks?
yes please, I would definitly like to see the plans.

TIA
Mark

--- Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com> wrote:
>  
> I made some scans from a book I bought yesterday:
> "Taschenbuch der luftflotten 1914"
> 
> I bought it because the Deperdussin drawing actually has a 
> spanwidth marked on it.  The Albatross is the "Bodensee"
> racer.
> The LVG I scanned for the truck, but it does say racer-LVG, 
> never heard of it  before.
> Does anyone want these scans, I've already sent them to the
> obvious suspects.
> I think Mark Miller and Karen were interested in WW1 trucks? .
> Apart
> from the cool LVG carrier, there is a Renault that I could
> scan if required.
> The scans are 657K in total.
> Have a nice weekend
>  /Neil 
>  


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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:53:19 -0800 (PST)
From: MARK MILLER <mark_.m@sbcglobal.net>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Cc: a.casirati@lombardiacom.it
Subject: Re: Ansaldo A-1: visit to the restoration worshops
Message-ID: <20030207175319.15310.qmail@web80008.mail.yahoo.com>

Alberto
I don't have any immediate plans for makeing a Ansaldo model.
But it would be great if you could document this aircraft while
it is in such an accessable state.

So please, take photos of whatever you can
(no detail is too small as far as I'm concerned)
and I could add them the site - if it's Ok by you

TIA
Mark



--- Casirati Alberto <a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it> wrote:
> Tomorrow I will drive to the GAVS workshops in Turin, for my
> usual
> supervising visit. 
> 
> The Ansaldo A-1 restoration project is about 60% done, and
> since the
> aircraft is still disassembled, I wonder whether any listee is
> interested in
> any particular aspect of this machine (now in an interesting
> stage from the
> modelling point of view). 
> 
> If so, jus ask, and I will do my best in getting those info
> for you, or the
> pictures you need.
> 
> Please remember to reply within the next 13 hours at the
> following address:
> a.casirati@lombardiacom.it
> 
> Have a nice weekend,
> 
> Alberto Casirati
> 


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Date: 	Fri, 7 Feb 2003 18:56:33 +0100
From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" <Grzegorz_Mazurowski@poczta.onet.pl>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Site updates
Message-ID: <028201c2ced2$40ac8fa0$0200a8c0@grzesiek>

Hah!
Another Jerry plane in Polish markings!
Very cool!
Master was made by my friend, Jacek Sznajder. He makes masters for Choroszy
and Ardpol.
Good to see you back, Karen!
G.

--------------r-e-k-l-a-m-a-----------------


Tanie bilety lotnicze!
http://samoloty.onet.pl

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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 13:02:54 -0500
From: RadspadMike@netscape.net
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Ansaldo A-1: visit to the restoration worshops
Message-ID: <0741D949.4B5483FF.3E0364A1@netscape.net>

I have both the A-1 and the S.V.A. 5.  Any photos for posting in the list gallery would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks much,
Mike Kavanaugh

MARK MILLER <mark_.m@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Alberto
>I don't have any immediate plans for makeing a Ansaldo model.
>But it would be great if you could document this aircraft while
>it is in such an accessable state.
>
>So please, take photos of whatever you can
>(no detail is too small as far as I'm concerned)
>and I could add them the site - if it's Ok by you
>
>TIA
>Mark
>
>
>
>--- Casirati Alberto <a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it> wrote:
>> Tomorrow I will drive to the GAVS workshops in Turin, for my
>> usual
>> supervising visit. 
>> 
>> The Ansaldo A-1 restoration project is about 60% done, and
>> since the
>> aircraft is still disassembled, I wonder whether any listee is
>> interested in
>> any particular aspect of this machine (now in an interesting
>> stage from the
>> modelling point of view). 
>> 
>> If so, jus ask, and I will do my best in getting those info
>> for you, or the
>> pictures you need.
>> 
>> Please remember to reply within the next 13 hours at the
>> following address:
>> a.casirati@lombardiacom.it
>> 
>> Have a nice weekend,
>> 
>> Alberto Casirati
>> 
>
>

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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 18:18:39 +0000
From: pfalzdvii@att.net
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Site updates
Message-ID: <3E30922F006BEA87@mta4.wss.scd.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com)

Welcome back, Karen! Maybe the little boys will behave a bit better (but 
probably not)

--
Merrill 
Your Madness May Vary
> 
> 
> Shane Weier wrote:
> 
> > Extremely nice model of a desperately homely aeroplane
> 
> Hey mon! Homely is in the eye of the beholder--I think it's kinda cool. But
> then I'm partial to Polish planes; we Poles take what we can get...
> 
> > ......which was worth
> > taking two years over !
> 
> Hmmm...here in the Northern Hemisphere, that 'weekend' took 7 months--but,
> having recently returned from sunny, warm southern places, I know how time
> slows down the further south one goes.
> 
> But thanks, Shane (and others) for the nice words about the build. **warning:
> confession time** This being the first airplane kit I've completed in about
> ten years, I'm somewhat surprised myself that I actually finished it. If I
> hadn't joined the list, it wouldn't have taken even the 7 months: youse guys
> just filled my head with all sorts of tips and tricks that I wanted to try
> out. Like Future under and over decals, re-attaching control surfaces with
> teensy bits of square plastic stock, metallic colored pencil for detailing

> 'metal' parts, and a host of others. If our newer listees think this group is
> just fun and games, toads, Nieuports, and flying shoes, veering at times
> towards multifarious quasi-sar/sexism of underwear choices, kinky sanding
> techniques, and testosterone strine levels--stick around: there's meaty stuff
> inserted every now and then     :-))
> 
> Dame Karen (recently returned from the Lesser Antilles to the Greater Ohio
> River Valley, where the white stuff on the ground isn't sand)
> 


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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 21:09:44 +0000
From: "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: brush it
Message-ID: <F168oMDrxxnSYe4nhrK0000d250@hotmail.com>

Greg Balzer says:
>
> >take a
> >lot of Mr. Color thinner to clean up, there's got to be some generic
> >product
> >at significantly lesser cost) and how difficult would that be using
>---- Greg,

I agree with Sanjeev.  lacquer thinner is fine for clean up.  Actually, some 
folks use it as a thinner too.

Michael


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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 21:22:35 -0000
From: "Graham Nash" <graham.nash1@ntlworld.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Nieuport 28
Message-ID: <KCEFILPCHPMBKKAEHKLBMEDFCAAA.graham.nash1@ntlworld.com>


Michael Kendrik wrote:

> I was wondering whether the Nieuport 28 appeared in schemes other than
those
> for French (5-colour) and the U.S. (during and after WWI)? Were there any
in
> use by the RFC/RAF or perhaps in the myriad of eastern European conflicts
> that broke out after 1918 in Russia, Poland and so on?


What about the Nie 28 RFC/RAF markings as shown in the films 'Hells
Angels/Dawn Patrol/Wings' etc. They are given in Scale Models 1973, Issue
46, 'Hell's Angels meet the Dawn Patrol'.



Uncle Sniffy
(from Deep lurck mode)


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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 17:34:37 -0500
From: Karen Rychlewski <krychski@earthlink.net>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE: 1913 racers
Message-ID: <3E44347D.3FD68BDA@earthlink.net>



MARK MILLER wrote:

> did somebody say trucks?
> yes please, I would definitly like to see the plans.

What Mark said...

Karen


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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 17:56:37 -0500 (EST)
From: Allan Wright <aew>
To: wwi
Subject: Fe2b gun mountings
Message-ID: <200302072256.RAA77661@mustang.sr.unh.edu>


Hi all,

   I'm helping a friend do a digital model for an Fe2b and we're having a
heated discussion about the gun mountings and which cockpit is which. I
know on some models they were reversed, especially for night fighting.
Can someone help me out?

Al
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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 18:31:48 -0500
From: ot811 <ot811@msbx.net>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Fe2b gun mountings
Message-ID: <20030207233404.48363690BC8@mail.mailsnare.net>

Allan,
   The FE.2b pilot is in the rear pit and the observer in the front 
pit.  This is always the case. (There are some single-seat variants 
where the front cockpit is faired over).
    The Fee had a wide variety of gun mounts - all of them around the 
observer's cockpit.  It is possible, that the pilot could have manned 
the gun mounted on the rear lip of the observer's cockpit.
   This is based on the Datafile, and the 2 books by Paul Hare.
regards
Sanjeev





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Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 09:37:50 +1000
From: "Shane Weier" <bristolf2b@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Aeroclub BE12s in 1/48th now at Hannants
Message-ID: <F80tJLtosJ3Ih7jtrSB0000f7af@hotmail.com>

Brent says:

>I like to think those aircraft were designed when the British were
>trying to prove the laws of aerodynamics did not apply on the left side
>of the Channel. Too bad they had to fight on the right side!

Which is, of course, all arse backwards. The big problem with the BE's (all 
of them) was that they were *too* aerodynamic. To engage in vulgar brawling 
required a lot less stability, which if you think about it applies to people 
as well.


Shane

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