WWI Digest 4985 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Nurnberg Toy Fair by tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) 2) Re: Amodel Nieuport Ni IV kit by "Pedro Soares" 3) RE: Nurnberg Toy Fair by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 4) Re: A-Model 1/72 Nieuport IV by Mike Fletcher 5) Re: A-Model 1/72 Nieuport IV by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 6) Re: What color is "Khaki"? by "David C. Fletcher" 7) Re: What color is "Khaki"? by "Michael Kendix" 8) Re: colour by Ken Schmitt 9) Re: Nurnberg Toy Fair by "Hans Trauner" 10) Re: What color is "Khaki"? by SSH 11) RE: Nurnberg Toy Fair by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 12) Re: colour by dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com 13) RE: New to the list by "Ray Boorman" 14) Re: by any measure by "Ray Boorman" 15) Re: A-Model 1/72 Nieuport IV by "Pedro Soares" 16) Re: What color is "Khaki"? by "Pedro Soares" 17) Re: Amodel Nieuport Ni IV kit by =?iso-8859-1?q?Shane=20Weier?= 18) RE: New to the list by "Pedro Soares" 19) Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list by =?iso-8859-1?q?Shane=20Weier?= 20) RE: New to the list by =?iso-8859-1?q?Shane=20Weier?= 21) Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list by =?iso-8859-1?q?Shane=20Weier?= 22) Re: What color is "Khaki"? by =?iso-8859-1?q?Shane=20Weier?= 23) Re: What color is "Khaki"? by "Michael Kendix" 24) Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list by "Pedro Soares" 25) Re: Nurnberg Toy Fair by =?iso-8859-1?q?Shane=20Weier?= 26) Re: What color is "Khaki"? by "Pedro Soares" 27) Re: What color is "Khaki"? by SSH 28) Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list by =?iso-8859-1?q?Shane=20Weier?= 29) Re: Amodel Nieuport Ni IV kit by dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com 30) all nuts here! (was: RE: New to the list) by "Carlos Carreira" 31) Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list by "Pedro Soares" 32) Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list by "Shane Weier" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:27:56 -0600 (CST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Nurnberg Toy Fair Message-ID: <200302052027.h15KRuJ35807@king1.kingsnake.com> I can't believe there hasn't been anything mentioned about what was at Nurnberg. Anybody have any scoop? Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:42:42 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Amodel Nieuport Ni IV kit Message-ID: <004f01c2cd57$216967c0$d8465451@netcabo.pt> Quick look at nieuport - 1909-1950. ed. Lariviere Nieuport type IV M (Militaire): Span: 12,25 m length: 8,50 m empty weight: 500 Kg Nieuport IVG (multiplace) span: 10,93 lenght 8,40 empty weight: 340 IRAS FMP book: Nie IV Dux built: span: 12,3 m length:8 m French FMP book: Nieuports 4M were designated as type 6M 6M 2 seat recin with 80 hp Gnome: sp - 11m lgth - 8,4 Macchi-Nieuport 6M 2 seat Rec with 80 hp Gnome sp - 12, 27 lgth - 7.70 Japanese Nieuport G 2 seat rec with 100 hp gnome sp - 10,9 lgth - 7.8 Nieuport 4 Espane 2 seat rec with 50 hp Gnome built in Russia by Scghetinin sp - 10,7 lgth - 7,5 Nieuport 4 Dux 2 seat rec 70 hp Gnome built in russia bi Dux s-12,3 lgth- 8 m Nieuport 4/6M 2 seat rec with 70 hp gnome monosoupape built in russia by Shchetinin and Dux s - 12 l - 7,8 Nieuport 1914 2 seat rec with 80 hp gnome monosoupape built in russi by shchetinin s- 12,3 l - 7,8 L'aviation maritime française pendant la grande guerre, Ardham Monoplanes Nieuport type VI, X ´span - 12,25 (12,50 according to certain sources) length - 8,75 SO, Can't find anything near the 9m of the repro at 4 vientos. Still it looks so well built that it really makes you wonder.... Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:39:39 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: Nurnberg Toy Fair Message-ID: <001701c2cd56$b46b2f00$314e2dcb@future> I have been watching both aircraft and AFV forums and nothing besides the Revell 1/72nd scale U-boat has been mentioned. Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Matt Bittner Sent: Thursday, 6 February 2003 7:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Nurnberg Toy Fair I can't believe there hasn't been anything mentioned about what was at Nurnberg. Anybody have any scoop? Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 15:38:09 -0500 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: A-Model 1/72 Nieuport IV Message-ID: <3E417631.E46CBF45@rogers.com> Those references are for the IV.M which was a larger but visually indistinguishable version, while the kit is correct in having the span it has - roughly 10.75m according to my drawings. Alberto is also correct with his as the Italian machines were mostly IV.M's. The example in the Spanish museum was made from the German drawings so no need to get the bag of peppers out though I would be interested to know how the Swedish example measures out. For clarification the gnome monoplanes can be broken into groups II.G = these are the smallest (roughly 8.4m span) though some late II.G's were really prototypes for the IV.G and so were larger. The undercarriage only has 2 vee's (all others have 3). IV.G = ~10.7m (there was some detail variations with regard to engine size - 50, 70, 80, & 100hp gnomes being used) - I think only the 70hp examples had the fin. As on the II there were 2 types of rudder - the early ones extended below the bottom of the fuselage. IV.M = ~12.5m VI.M = ~13.4m All dimensions are rough as there was considerable variation in reported dimensions, and rounding was common. There were hydro versions of each and these usually had larger wings and possible longer fuselages. Identifiying the original version can be a problem The only real identifying feature lies in the cockpit coaming. The VI.M is flatter and had a larger opening, while the IV.G and IV.M are taller. The IV.G has the smallest opening (being the 2 seater) while the others were built as 3 seaters although the IV.M drawings only show 2 seats as this was of a specific military trials machine. Mike Fl. Where can I get this kit? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:45:18 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: A-Model 1/72 Nieuport IV Message-ID: <001901c2cd57$7ea35f40$314e2dcb@future> Earl at NKR has them. Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Mike Fletcher Sent: Thursday, 6 February 2003 7:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: A-Model 1/72 Nieuport IV Those references are for the IV.M which was a larger but visually indistinguishable version, while the kit is correct in having the span it has - roughly 10.75m according to my drawings. Alberto is also correct with his as the Italian machines were mostly IV.M's. The example in the Spanish museum was made from the German drawings so no need to get the bag of peppers out though I would be interested to know how the Swedish example measures out. For clarification the gnome monoplanes can be broken into groups II.G = these are the smallest (roughly 8.4m span) though some late II.G's were really prototypes for the IV.G and so were larger. The undercarriage only has 2 vee's (all others have 3). IV.G = ~10.7m (there was some detail variations with regard to engine size - 50, 70, 80, & 100hp gnomes being used) - I think only the 70hp examples had the fin. As on the II there were 2 types of rudder - the early ones extended below the bottom of the fuselage. IV.M = ~12.5m VI.M = ~13.4m All dimensions are rough as there was considerable variation in reported dimensions, and rounding was common. There were hydro versions of each and these usually had larger wings and possible longer fuselages. Identifiying the original version can be a problem The only real identifying feature lies in the cockpit coaming. The VI.M is flatter and had a larger opening, while the IV.G and IV.M are taller. The IV.G has the smallest opening (being the 2 seater) while the others were built as 3 seaters although the IV.M drawings only show 2 seats as this was of a specific military trials machine. Mike Fl. Where can I get this kit? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 12:50:40 -0800 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: What color is "Khaki"? Message-ID: <3E417920.6060605@mars.ark.com> jje4@earthlink.net wrote: > Well....I always thought that the color "Khaki" was considered a tan / buff color. The Eduard N.11 instructions indicate that it is a green color - based on box cover art. Khaki is a Farsi (ie., Iranian) word for 'earth', so it depends on what colour the dirt was in Persia! I don't believe that we have any Iranian list members, so the actual shade may necessitate a search through old National Geographics... My understanding, though, is that it is a predominantly brown colour with a touch of green and was a natural camouflage shade to choose. Dave Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 20:50:06 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: What color is "Khaki"? Message-ID: Khaki is one of the many words the British picked up during their "stay" in India. It means dusty or dirty looking and is a Hindi word, I think. So it doesn't really refer to a specific colour. Michael P.S. Other such words include bungalow, chai (tea), shampoo, thug, verandah, dungarees. >From: jje4@earthlink.net > >Well....I always thought that the color "Khaki" was considered a tan / > >buff color. The Eduard N.11 instructions indicate that it is a green > >color - based on box cover art. > >Have I been wrong all these years? _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 14:56:52 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Re: colour Message-ID: John always thought- > ...that the color "Khaki" was considered a tan / buff > color. What Merrill said but for gosh sakes, don't bring up "Ecru". -G. Gershwin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:00:39 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Nurnberg Toy Fair Message-ID: <01b101c2cd59$a3b92b00$fe78a8c0@FRITZweb> The main problem: Information policy has been changed by the producers. It's a fair for retailers, not for modellers. And the firms are selling brand awarness to the retailers, not models. As far as I was informed, there where no surprises. The Fokker DrI in 1/72 by Revell plus some Eduards, but nothing which can't be read on their homepages. Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:29 PM Subject: [WWI] Nurnberg Toy Fair > > I can't believe there hasn't been anything mentioned about what was at > Nurnberg. Anybody have any scoop? > > > Matt > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:56:10 -0500 From: SSH To: Subject: Re: What color is "Khaki"? Message-ID: <20030205205808.1AC2C690BEC@mail.mailsnare.net> This from Merriam-webster: Etymology: Hindi khAkI dust-colored, from khAk dust, from Persian Date: 1857 1 : a light yellowish brown 2 a : a khaki-colored cloth made usually of cotton or wool and used especially for military uniforms b : a garment of this cloth; especially : a military uniform -- usually used in plural I think the term covers a fairly wide range of hues (?) of brown, atleast in India. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 21:20:39 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: RE: Nurnberg Toy Fair Message-ID: <1044480039.3e418027b7e09@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Ross & Wendy Moorhouse : > I have been watching both aircraft and AFV forums and nothing besides > the Revell 1/72nd scale U-boat has been mentioned. > Bit more than that - Revell 1/72 big ot Junkers, & some interesting other things, but little OT. (except that mysterious 30 piece Dr1) Dave Fleming ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 21:21:56 +0000 From: dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: colour Message-ID: <1044480116.3e418074daca2@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Ken Schmitt : > John always thought- > > ...that the color "Khaki" was considered a tan / buff > > color. > > What Merrill said but for gosh sakes, don't bring up "Ecru". > THAT was the colour of the Liverpool FC Away strip a few years ago! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:23:17 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: wwi@wwi-models.org, multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: New to the list Message-ID: <61F3D339499A6F645B9EC307C79EE1E6@Ray_B.prontomail.com> Hi Carlos welcome to the list. btw if you go measuring Elk/Moose please remember there is no North American Elk. There is a Canadian Elk/Moose which was imperial but is now metric and bilingual or the US Elk/Moose which uses imperial units but somehow made them smaller....... Oh and I suspect the US Elk/Moose runs faster from all those hunters with machine guns down south! Yep I know were all nuts here! ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: Crawford Neil Sent: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 07:40:10 -0500 (EST) To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] RE: New to the list Hi Carlos, Welcome to the loonie bin, don't listen to any of them except Matt, they're all nuts. Just look how a perfectly sensible discussion degenerated into a discussion about pickled paprikas (yes I finally worked out what those piementos thingies were, Pedro) Glad to hear you're getting a Staaken, seems like a very good idea to me. Are Contrail kits good? /Neil C. (on the west coast of Sweden 400km from the museum) ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:39:14 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: by any measure Message-ID: Ken, ancient Canadian proverb He who plumbs the mines of Moria ends up bored in the outback of Ozz. But he who plumbs the mines of Moira ends up with slapped face! ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: Ken Schmitt One would have to plumb the Mines Of Moira to find something this dark. . . ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:50:05 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: A-Model 1/72 Nieuport IV Message-ID: <000801c2cd60$8b5d57a0$d8465451@netcabo.pt> Mike, > The example in the Spanish museum was made from the German drawings so > no need to get the bag of peppers out though I would be interested to > know how the Swedish example measures out. So would the german drawings you mention be almost 2 m short in Span??!!!! Or else? TIA Pedro (who loves pimientos de Padrón) > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:51:56 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: What color is "Khaki"? Message-ID: <001201c2cd60$cdb8f3c0$d8465451@netcabo.pt> > > Michael > > P.S. Other such words include bungalow, chai (tea), Actually a Portuguese word - Chá. Learned this with Sanjeev. Ain't this List something? Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:46:34 +1100 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Shane=20Weier?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Amodel Nieuport Ni IV kit Message-ID: <20030205214634.80088.qmail@web9206.mail.yahoo.com> Neil says: >Ah, that explains things, thanks a lot Alberto. I actually mentioned Alberto's discussion of the wing length in the *first* review I posted - but it was longer than the size limit, got rejected, I had no copy so had to write it again. Soooo - too lazy to write that bit again I left matters for Alberto who may now also be able to list his sources as an aid to us "getting to the bottom of things" After a night of sleep, I suspect I like the kit more than I dislike the confusion over wingspan Shane (stupid hotmail is dead again I think - luckily I now subscribe two ways) http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies - What's on at your local cinema? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:56:38 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: RE: New to the list Message-ID: <002201c2cd61$75ff90c0$d8465451@netcabo.pt> .. Oh and I suspect the US Elk/Moose runs faster from all > those hunters with machine guns down south! > > Yep I know were all nuts here! > Yep. All that and the rain, dear! Pedor (feeling poetical again) Ray, Your parcel will be on the mail tomorrow ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:50:27 +1100 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Shane=20Weier?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list Message-ID: <20030205215027.49513.qmail@web9205.mail.yahoo.com> Clay, > Riga, and 8:00 am Sunday (February 9) in Brisbane. > Is this time ok? Fine by me in Brisbane, though not really relevant unless you happen to be giving stuff away :-( That will be 9am in Sydney and Melbourne so Ross, StY and Neil the Magpie lover should be okay too Shane http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies - What's on at your local cinema? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:52:12 +1100 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Shane=20Weier?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: New to the list Message-ID: <20030205215212.472.qmail@web9203.mail.yahoo.com> --- Diego wrote > Ain't we cute? > D. > recovering from a harddisc crash. There's the answer. Wanda hit him over the head with it Shane http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies - What's on at your local cinema? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:00:10 +1100 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Shane=20Weier?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list Message-ID: <20030205220010.58625.qmail@web9205.mail.yahoo.com> DZ says: > > Make Australians get up early Sunday Morning. > > Who are you kidding? The Aussies I know would just > stay up a little later, that's all. :-) LOL - that's pretty well true. Last Saturday night I went to bed at 2am, and rose at 4:30 so that we could leave for the beach at 5am Shane http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies - What's on at your local cinema? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:02:43 +1100 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Shane=20Weier?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: What color is "Khaki"? Message-ID: <20030205220243.46592.qmail@web9204.mail.yahoo.com> John says: > Well....I always thought that the color "Khaki" was > considered a tan / buff color. The Eduard N.11 > instructions indicate that it is a green color - > based on box cover art. > > Have I been wrong all these years? Yes and no. I still have my Khaki Battle Dress uniform from my Army days. It's at the brown end of PC.10 The shirt worn with battledress was also Khaki in the opinion of the QMS. It was a buff colour. HTH ! Shane http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies - What's on at your local cinema? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 22:04:28 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: What color is "Khaki"? Message-ID: >From: "Pedro Soares" >Subject: [WWI] Re: What color is "Khaki"? >Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:47:50 -0500 (EST) > > > > > Michael > > > > P.S. Other such words include bungalow, chai (tea), > >Actually a Portuguese word - Chá. > >Learned this with Sanjeev. Ain't this List something? Pedro: Perhaps the Portugee acquired during their own colonial ventures in the Indian subcontinent? Michael _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:11:35 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list Message-ID: <005801c2cd63$8c9c38e0$d8465451@netcabo.pt> Last Saturday night I > went to bed at 2am, and rose at 4:30 I wonder if Meg knows about this..... Pedor > Shane > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:06:28 +1100 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Shane=20Weier?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nurnberg Toy Fair Message-ID: <20030205220628.99101.qmail@web9206.mail.yahoo.com> --- Matt wrote: > I can't believe there hasn't been anything mentioned > about what was at Nurnberg. Not true. We discussed the new? Revell Driedecker (and how to spell it) And I mentioned the new Classic Airframes ot 'tween wars Sopwith kits >Anybody have any scoop? That's about all. The rest was entirely ot Shane http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies - What's on at your local cinema? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:22:25 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: What color is "Khaki"? Message-ID: <009e01c2cd65$0fc5afc0$d8465451@netcabo.pt> > > Pedro: > > Perhaps the Portugee acquired during their own colonial ventures in the > Indian subcontinent? > > Michael > > Michael, You're right. Not a Portuguese word. I reviewd Sanjeev's message again and there's no Chá there. So I guess we did pick that up from one of the Hindu languages. Regards Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:22:23 -0500 From: SSH To: Subject: Re: What color is "Khaki"? Message-ID: <20030205222420.3C6C446422A@mail.mailsnare.net> Pedro, Michael, I think the word Chai came to India and the western world from China. Interestingly, the word tea also originates in China, and probably closely related to chai. back to OT: Perchance, the Voss cowl was chai coloured ? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:39:23 +1100 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Shane=20Weier?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list Message-ID: <20030205223923.44008.qmail@web9203.mail.yahoo.com> Pedro Soares wrote: > Last Saturday night I > > went to bed at 2am, and rose at 4:30 > > > I wonder if Meg knows about this..... > Of course. I have to ask her if I can stay out of bed after 8:30pm Shane http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies - What's on at your local cinema? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 22:41:52 +0000 From: dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Amodel Nieuport Ni IV kit Message-ID: <1044484912.3e4193301e4f3@netmail.pipex.net> Shane The Aviatik Kid sayeth > > After a night of sleep, I suspect I like the kit more > than I dislike the confusion over wingspan > Now I think the RFC ones were IVMs, so I need one with the larger wingspan, which presumably means the longer fuselage. Anyone else think these early Nieports were like those Russian Dolls that fit inside each other? Oh well, Shane's at work, time for bed! See you all in 10 hours! Dave Fleming PS Where's your toadish Strine? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:44:34 -0000 From: "Carlos Carreira" To: Subject: all nuts here! (was: RE: New to the list) Message-ID: <02c401c2cd68$2818c500$6901a8c0@duron> Ray, Neil, My wife saw some posts and she says it's the right place for me. About Contrail kits... According to reviews, their quality ranges from poor to fair, by today standards. But they had some golden age stuff nobody else have made. >Glad to hear you're getting a Staaken 21 days from the States by airmail? I'm loosing hope... Pedro, Yes, I have the article, but I think the main reference to have is the German Giants book. We still have to handpaint all those lozenge? Um abraço a todos, Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:57:09 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list Message-ID: <00dc01c2cd69$e9e42b60$d8465451@netcabo.pt> I meant about Rose, ... Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:41 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list > Pedro Soares wrote: > > > Last Saturday night I > > > went to bed at 2am, and rose at 4:30 > > > > > > I wonder if Meg knows about this..... > > > > Of course. I have to ask her if I can stay out of bed > after 8:30pm > > Shane > > > > http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies > - What's on at your local cinema? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 08:55:06 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list Message-ID: Pedro, >I meant about Rose, ... > Oh. Meg's entirely in charge of that part of my life too. No approval, no rose. Mistress Lorna doesn't call her Mistress Meg for nought. Shane (henpecked, and by Mistress Lorna last night as well) ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4985 **********************