WWI Digest 4984

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) OT game oppertunity
	by Allan Wright <aew>
  2) Re: DWC - wing spars
	by BRENT THEOBALD <brent524@comcast.net>
  3) RE: New to the list
	by "Diego Ferneti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
  4) Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list
	by BRENT THEOBALD <brent524@comcast.net>
  5) RE: New to the list
	by dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com
  6) Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list
	by Clay W Fulcher <mtngoat01@juno.com>
  7) RE: New to the list
	by "Diego Ferneti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
  8) RE:  Date for posting the New "old kits" list 
	by EPMyles@aol.com
  9) Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list
	by BRENT THEOBALD <brent524@comcast.net>
 10) RE:  Date for posting the New "old kits" list
	by BRENT THEOBALD <brent524@comcast.net>
 11) RE: New to the list
	by "Diego Ferneti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 12) Fokkers, was new to the list
	by dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com
 13) RE: New to the list
	by "Pedro N. Soares" <pnsoares@naer.pt>
 14) Re: by any measure
	by Ken Schmitt <knnths@mchsi.com>
 15) Amodel's Nieuport IV
	by tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner)
 16) Re: sub problem
	by "David C. Fletcher" <dcf@mars.ark.com>
 17) Re: OT game oppertunity
	by MARK MILLER <mark_.m@sbcglobal.net>
 18) Re: OT game oppertunity
	by Allan Wright <aew@mustang.sr.unh.edu>
 19) RE:  Date for posting the New "old kits" list
	by Clay W Fulcher <mtngoat01@juno.com>
 20) Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list
	by Clay W Fulcher <mtngoat01@juno.com>
 21) Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list
	by Zulis@aol.com
 22) Re: What color is "Khaki"?
	by jje4@earthlink.net
 23) One day in Brussels
	by knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen)
 24) Re: What color is "Khaki"?
	by pfalzdvii@att.net

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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:06:39 -0500 (EST)
From: Allan Wright <aew>
To: wwi
Subject: OT game oppertunity
Message-ID: <200302051606.LAA73958@mustang.sr.unh.edu>

If you're not a renderer/electronic modeler you may consider this off-topic.
You've been warned. As moderator I must ask we keep this thread modeling
related by not diverging too much off the path of renderings, etc.

There's a group forming that is doing a World War I 'mod' to EA's 
"Battlefield 1942" game. The group is called the "Trench Rats" and
they're making digital models of vehicles and weapons of WWI for the
project. They're recruiting modelers, and especially those with rendering
skills (to do 'skins' for the models they've made). I know this
would appeal to many of our group who also do some form of digital
WWI modeling as well as plastic models.

For more info please visit their site:
http://www.warwickmedia.com/trenchratsbf/
There's a discussion board, sample images, etc. there. I'm going to try
to get involved.

So far they have digital models of Albatros D-V, RAF Fe2b and Se5a, several
tanks and a couple cars/armored cars and some infantry weapons. Even if
you're not a renderer, it's exciting to see WWI digital models.

If you want to discuss how to apply our current 'digital' modeling skills
to this endevor here that's great. Let's not stray too far off into
WWI games discussions though. If the thread goes on for a while, I'll make
up a small mailing list for those interested, or we can continue over on
their discussion groups.

A great WWI game with our own models in it - sounds too good to be true!
Allan

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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 10:20:38 -0600
From: BRENT THEOBALD <brent524@comcast.net>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: DWC - wing spars
Message-ID: <3600f3365d7a.365d7a3600f3@icomcast.net>

Bob,

I can't wait to see pictures. You are my modeling hero now!

Later!

Brent



----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.net>
Date: Tuesday, February 4, 2003 5:39 pm
Subject: [WWI] DWC - wing spars

> Hi all,
> 
> Went to a friend's house last night and got the remaining three 
> spars and
> all four aileron spars cut out for the DWC. . almost finished my 
> second wing
> panel. The fun part will be attaching them all. The join between 
> the wing
> panels will be fairly weak, so I'm going to have to trust to the 
> rigging to
> actually support the wing. I was planning to do long sub-spars 
> that stuck
> out from the otter wing panels and that would fit in corresponding 
> slots in
> the centre section. . I figured if I made these spars long enough 
> they would
> be almost strong enough to support the weight of the wing. ... so 
> obviouslyI forgot to drill the holes for the subspar in the first 
> wing panel. . so I
> will only be able to get the drill to reach the first few ribs to 
> affixthem. However I can lift it at the first and third rib and it 
> is horizontal,
> so I guess (hope) it will be strong enough.
> 
> Sometime in the next few days I'll move it into the bandroom (only 
> room big
> enough) and photograph all the components in place. .. then we'll 
> really get
> an idea as to the size of it.
> 
> Bob
> 


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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:25:31 -0300
From: "Diego Ferneti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: New to the list
Message-ID: <005901c2cd33$342ebe60$4817a8c0@sssp.rosario.gov.ar>

> Diego is plain degenerate. Ken too. But funny.

Ain't we cute?
D.
recovering from a harddisc crash.


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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 10:30:07 -0600
From: BRENT THEOBALD <brent524@comcast.net>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list
Message-ID: <3685d7366d71.366d713685d7@icomcast.net>

Howdy!

That's 2:00 pm my time... Ack! No! I'll be stuck at a five year old's 
birthday party. I wonder if the brat's dad will let me use the computer?

This is *SO* unfair :-(

Hah hah! Great job Clay. Thank you for feeding our obsessions. My wife 
may be less pleased with you than the rest of us. "What's this?! More 
crap!?" It'll be all right though, Valentine's Day is coming. I get to 
suck up then.

Later!

Brent



----- Original Message -----
From: Clay W Fulcher <mtngoat01@juno.com>
Date: Wednesday, February 5, 2003 10:06 am
Subject: [WWI] Date for posting the New "old kits" list

> Ok, I think I might have figured this out.
> 
> I plan to post the new list of bargain basement kits on
> 
> Saturday, February 8, 3:00 pm Mountain Time (N.America).
> 
> I believe this works out to 10:00 pm GMT for Western Europe, 
> midnight in
> Riga, and 8:00 am Sunday (February 9) in Brisbane. Is this time 
> ok? We
> can adjust it. There is a pile of great kits in here for next to 
> nothing.
> Clay
> 
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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 16:33:50 +0000
From: dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: New to the list
Message-ID: <1044462830.3e413ceee55d0@netmail.pipex.net>


Quoting Diego Ferneti <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>:

>> recovering from a harddisc crash.
> 

Better than a spinal disc crash!

Had an HD crash last year - hope you had backed up your data!

Dave

nb Eduard Fokker EIII Profi 



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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:37:11 -0700
From: Clay W Fulcher <mtngoat01@juno.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list
Message-ID: <20030205.093711.4092.0.mtngoat01@juno.com>

OH..
Well, then, I shall post it earlier. What time is the latest you can make
it? Everybody will be happy except for the Australians. They will have to
get up early.

--Clay

On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:31:27 -0500 (EST) BRENT THEOBALD
<brent524@comcast.net> writes:
> Howdy!
> 
> That's 2:00 pm my time... Ack! No! I'll be stuck at a five year 
> old's 
> birthday party. I wonder if the brat's dad will let me use the 
> computer?
> 
> This is *SO* unfair :-(
> 
> Hah hah! Great job Clay. Thank you for feeding our obsessions. My 
> wife 
> may be less pleased with you than the rest of us. "What's this?! 
> More 
> crap!?" It'll be all right though, Valentine's Day is coming. I get 
> to 
> suck up then.
> 
> Later!
> 
> Brent
> 

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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:55:58 -0300
From: "Diego Ferneti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: New to the list
Message-ID: <00b501c2cd37$7505b980$4817a8c0@sssp.rosario.gov.ar>

Ming wrote:
> Better than a spinal disc crash!
> Had an HD crash last year - hope you had backed up your data!

Sure, there were some warnings before, so I was able to save most of the
files. And I have yet to install my address book at my home computer.

> nb Eduard Fokker EIII Profi

Say, is the Revell one better? ;-)
D.


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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 11:56:30 -0500
From: EPMyles@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE:  Date for posting the New "old kits" list 
Message-ID: <121825A1.224A1577.00154807@aol.com>

>From: Clay W Fulcher <mtngoat01@juno.com> 

>Ok, I think I might have figured this out. I plan to post the >new list of bargain basement kits on Saturday, February 8, >3:00 pm Mountain Time (N.America). 

Clay - 
can you include individual email addresses for those of us that are on digest mode?

Thanks,
Myles  (epmyles@aol.com)

p.s.  &#$%#!##$  is anyone going to hold me to my New Year Resolution (Less Buying/More Building) posted here a month ago - ?

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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 10:57:46 -0600
From: BRENT THEOBALD <brent524@comcast.net>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list
Message-ID: <37cfb037ca57.37ca5737cfb0@icomcast.net>

Clay,

I am just teasing. Post the list whenever you want. It isn't like I am 
lacking for kits. :-) Even if I don't get first dibs some other listee 
will give the models a nice closet to live in :-) That's almost as good 
as getting them myself. (Unless there's a 1/48 Lone Star Slabatnig in 
there.)

This is good fun Clay. Thanks again for all the hard work you are doing 
for us.

Later!

Brent


----- Original Message -----
From: Clay W Fulcher <mtngoat01@juno.com>
Date: Wednesday, February 5, 2003 10:41 am
Subject: [WWI] Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list

> OH..
> Well, then, I shall post it earlier. What time is the latest you 
> can make
> it? Everybody will be happy except for the Australians. They will 
> have to
> get up early.
> 
> --Clay
> 
> On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:31:27 -0500 (EST) BRENT THEOBALD
> <brent524@comcast.net> writes:
> > Howdy!
> > 
> > That's 2:00 pm my time... Ack! No! I'll be stuck at a five year 
> > old's 
> > birthday party. I wonder if the brat's dad will let me use the 
> > computer?
> > 
> > This is *SO* unfair :-(
> > 
> > Hah hah! Great job Clay. Thank you for feeding our obsessions. 
> My 
> > wife 
> > may be less pleased with you than the rest of us. "What's this?! 
> > More 
> > crap!?" It'll be all right though, Valentine's Day is coming. I 
> get 
> > to 
> > suck up then.
> > 
> > Later!
> > 
> > Brent
> > 
> 
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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 11:00:05 -0600
From: BRENT THEOBALD <brent524@comcast.net>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE:  Date for posting the New "old kits" list
Message-ID: <3b98403b8208.3b82083b9840@icomcast.net>

Howdy!

Myles askes: 
> p.s.  &#$%#!##$  is anyone going to hold me to my New Year 
> Resolution (Less Buying/More Building) posted here a month ago - ?

Old WWI proverb: He who lives in glass house should always wear 
clothing. (i.e. I'll not cast the first stone!)

Later!

Brent


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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:07:53 -0300
From: "Diego Ferneti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: New to the list
Message-ID: <00c101c2cd39$1f0a64c0$4817a8c0@sssp.rosario.gov.ar>

> Haven't you heard of the Blackburn Pimiento that raced in the 1919
Schnorkel Cup
> in Bilbao, unfortunately it turned over and sank before starting.
> I'm sure Diego knows more about this (rather sad) story.

As a matter of fact, yesterday morning as I was in my fencing practice some
chaps were discussing this. No more than an hour later I was installed in my
favourite chaise longe reading the pertinent article in the Seventh tome of
the ninth appendix of a summer supplement of the Enciclopaedia Fernetica,
and I quote:
" Schnorkel Cup, Bilbao, Spain 1919: Sponsorized by the Andorran tycoon Jean
Claude Schornkel, the aviation race was a publicity stunt to promote
Schnorkel's new product, a tube to breath above the viced atmosphere of
crowded spaces, as for instance, aviation meetings.
There was several participants in this race, mostly from Europe, who wanted
to show the world their newest and fastest design after the Great War.
Breguet signed in with their Bre.XILCM, an endecaplane with not less than 16
engines, Nieuport brought the Nieuport Bizarre, a sesquiplane where the uper
wing had less chord than the lower; Pemberton-Billing put the PB 4F7 also
called "The Queer Bird" and Supermarine some strange monoplane design, still
experimental, named with some sobriquet about spitting flames or something
which was never unveiled due to technical troubles. Blackburn entered its
latest design, a monocoque quadruplane painted entirely in red and aptly
named "The Pimiento".
However, the organization of the event was defective and no one was warned
that the race was to be a hydroplane race. The organizers refused to return
the inscription fees to the participants, whose airplanes were all land
based machines. So they improvised floats for some of the airplanes (all of
them sank in the river) but Georges Calunescu -a young engineer who was at
Blackburn- proposed launching the "Pitmiento" from a platform over a herring
fishing barge that was being sold for cheap at the harbor. Boards were
attached to the barge and they started the Pimiento at 8.00 AM of March 23th
1919. Off it went the Pimiento, flames from it's triple exhaust pipes, a red
slash in the cold, still morning air. It sunk like a rock in the river.
It could have been a tragedy if the pilot wouldn't have carried Schnorkel's
novelty item, that saved himself of dying drowned in the dark waters. The
rest is another history."


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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 17:11:55 +0000
From: dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Fokkers, was new to the list
Message-ID: <1044465115.3e4145dbad1b8@netmail.pipex.net>


Quoting Diego Ferneti <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>:

> Ming wrote:
> 
> > nb Eduard Fokker EIII Profi
> 
> Say, is the Revell one better? ;-)
> D.
> 
Now there's a thought, must dig out the Revell one and check!:-]

BTW, anyone know anything about a Fokker E that went to the US in 1917? It was 
apparently used by the CFS in England, and is NOT 210/16 as current;ly in the 
Science Museum It carried an RFC serial and one of the 'XG' designations 
applied to British Captured aircraft.

Dave




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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:20:27 -0000 
From: "Pedro N. Soares" <pnsoares@naer.pt>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE: New to the list
Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B302A88464@TUFAO>

Fantastic, as ever. 

You make everything look brighter D.

Thanks

Pedro

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diego Ferneti [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar]
> Sent: quarta-feira, 5 de Fevereiro de 2003 17:10
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: [WWI] RE: New to the list
> 
> 
> > Haven't you heard of the Blackburn Pimiento that raced in the 1919
> Schnorkel Cup
> > in Bilbao, unfortunately it turned over and sank before starting.
> >
> 

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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 11:24:21 -0600
From: Ken Schmitt <knnths@mchsi.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: by any measure
Message-ID: <BA66A4E5.2953%knnths@mchsi.com>

Every Man Bruce of You ecrit:

> whatever.

If this does not soon cease, we shall have to break out the elderberries and
*really* put our knee onnit. New port.

One would have to plumb the Mines Of Moira to find something this dark. . .

"Fly, you fools!"

> Diego is plain degenerate. Ken too. But funny.
Diego is certainly The One but I take the *gravest possible exception* to
being here referred to as "Number Two".
Perhaps true, but thought I'd been sufficiently dixcrete n all.

> No, no, no. He's just Sensicall (at times) ain't that so Ken?

it ain' necessarily soooooooooooooooooo

-Porgy N. Best (Sportin' Life)




y'all boys is just plain nutty...

> I am going through the digest now.
moi aussi

Pedro wonders:

"...If I get foam on the cup will this mean that I'm backfiring?
probably due to
clogged system.....?"


"English as a First Language"

yes, speaking.

> Saturday, February 8, 3:00 pm Mountain Time (N.America).
that's a big Rog' Clay (you thoughtful hankie dropper).

"Why I read this list"
by Phineas E. Bay, Esq.


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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:12:30 -0600 (CST)
From: tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner)
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Amodel's Nieuport IV
Message-ID: <200302051812.h15ICUl31762@king1.kingsnake.com>


One thing just dawned on my while I was emailing Michael Kendix.

According to the book _Russian Aeroplanes_, some of the machines that were
contract-built (like the Nie.IV by Dux) were actually "tweaked" with. 
That is, Dux would perform modifications on the airframes based on an
engineer's designs.

So, the Amodel Nie.IV could be correct scale-wise for IRAS-flown Nieuport
IVs.

Just a thought.


Matt
 


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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 10:27:25 -0800
From: "David C. Fletcher" <dcf@mars.ark.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: sub problem
Message-ID: <3E41578D.9000903@mars.ark.com>

Clay W Fulcher wrote:

> Somehow I got unsubbed from the list. I wonder if this one will get
> through?
> 
> I am going through the digest now. 

Obviously, it got through!  I seem to get unsubbed two or three times 
per week; I don't know if it is my server (primary suspect) or UNH.

Dave Fletcher


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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:58:39 -0800 (PST)
From: MARK MILLER <mark_.m@sbcglobal.net>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: OT game oppertunity
Message-ID: <20030205185839.44848.qmail@web80001.mail.yahoo.com>

Looks interesting
I have had some communication with the various
communities that are working on their own version of a
next generation WW1 flight sim:

There are the guys at SWWISA who are trying to improve
Red Baron. They do some incredible stuff, but they
seem to be hampered by the limitations of the
software.
good group though.

and then the guys who are putting together the WW1
expansion of IL2

and then the wings with wire people.

And now this one.
Looks to be more than a flight sim though.
so what kind of game is it?

In any case, I'm always happy to offer up whatever i
can to help out.
Unfortunately, My personal modeling methods are quite
a bit different than theirs because I'm using CAD
software.
But I do seem to be able to help out in the skins
department from time to time.

Maybe this is straying further off topic, but I would
be intersted in hearing a comparison of the game play
of these games. Last game of this sort I played was
the original Red Baron.
I'm thinking it might be fun to give it another try.
so what direction should I go?

updated red Baron 3D?
or Il2... or what?

FWIW, graphicaly the IL2 sim looks best to me, as to
how good a "game" it is, I couldn't say
TIA
Mark




--- Allan Wright <aew@mustang.sr.unh.edu> wrote:
> If you're not a renderer/electronic modeler you may
> consider this off-topic.
> You've been warned. As moderator I must ask we keep
> this thread modeling
> related by not diverging too much off the path of
> renderings, etc.
> 
> There's a group forming that is doing a World War I
> 'mod' to EA's 
> "Battlefield 1942" game. The group is called the
> "Trench Rats" and
> they're making digital models of vehicles and
> weapons of WWI for the
> project. They're recruiting modelers, and especially
> those with rendering
> skills (to do 'skins' for the models they've made).
> I know this
> would appeal to many of our group who also do some
> form of digital
> WWI modeling as well as plastic models.


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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:14:41 -0500 (EST)
From: Allan Wright <aew@mustang.sr.unh.edu>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: OT game oppertunity
Message-ID: <200302051914.OAA75333@mustang.sr.unh.edu>

> And now this one.
> Looks to be more than a flight sim though.
> so what kind of game is it?

It's a first-person game that allows you to be an infantryman
(medic, engineer, sniper, etc) but if you want, you can
use/operate/drive/fly every gun/vehicle/weapon in the game
using simple controls. It's MUCH more than a flight sim.
It's Quake, Red Baron, Gato Submarine and others all rolled
up in one. And you play against up to 64 other humans all doing
the same thing.

What brings it on topic is the group doing the great war
variant.

> But I do seem to be able to help out in the skins
> department from time to time.

This seems to be a desparately needed skill.

> Maybe this is straying further off topic, but I would
> be intersted in hearing a comparison of the game play
> of these games. Last game of this sort I played was
> the original Red Baron.

This discussion is too off topic for here. Save to say
if a great war version of this game comes out it will be the 
first WWI game worth playing since the original RB.

> I'm thinking it might be fun to give it another try.
> so what direction should I go?
> 
> updated red Baron 3D?
> or Il2... or what?
> 
> FWIW, graphicaly the IL2 sim looks best to me, as to
> how good a "game" it is, I couldn't say

I game a lot - BF1942 is my current drug of choice.

RBII, even with all the 3-D patches, left me flat.

Allan

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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:23:14 -0700
From: Clay W Fulcher <mtngoat01@juno.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE:  Date for posting the New "old kits" list
Message-ID: <20030205.122314.4092.2.mtngoat01@juno.com>

Sure. Whoever needs a direct post, let me know. You're the first one on
the CC: list, Myles.

Clay

On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:57:16 -0500 (EST) EPMyles@aol.com writes:
> >From: Clay W Fulcher <mtngoat01@juno.com> 
> 
> >Ok, I think I might have figured this out. I plan to post the >new 
> list of bargain basement kits on Saturday, February 8, >3:00 pm 
> Mountain Time (N.America). 
> 
> Clay - 
> can you include individual email addresses for those of us that are 
> on digest mode?
> 
> Thanks,
> Myles  (epmyles@aol.com)

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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:25:18 -0700
From: Clay W Fulcher <mtngoat01@juno.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list
Message-ID: <20030205.122519.4092.3.mtngoat01@juno.com>

Ok, I'll keep it 3:00 Mountain time (North America). Saturday. But we can
adjust it if we need to. Make Australians get up early Sunday Morning.
--Clay


On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:01:22 -0500 (EST) BRENT THEOBALD
<brent524@comcast.net> writes:
> Clay,
> 
> I am just teasing. Post the list whenever you want. It isn't like I 
> am 
> lacking for kits. :-) Even if I don't get first dibs some other 
> listee 
> will give the models a nice closet to live in :-) That's almost as 
> good 
> as getting them myself. (Unless there's a 1/48 Lone Star Slabatnig 
> in 
> there.)
> 
> This is good fun Clay. Thanks again for all the hard work you are 
> doing 
> for us.
> 
> Later!
> 
> Brent
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Clay W Fulcher <mtngoat01@juno.com>
> Date: Wednesday, February 5, 2003 10:41 am
> Subject: [WWI] Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list
> 
> > OH..
> > Well, then, I shall post it earlier. What time is the latest you 
> > can make
> > it? Everybody will be happy except for the Australians. They will 
> 
> > have to
> > get up early.
> > 
> > --Clay
> > 
> > On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:31:27 -0500 (EST) BRENT THEOBALD
> > <brent524@comcast.net> writes:
> > > Howdy!
> > > 
> > > That's 2:00 pm my time... Ack! No! I'll be stuck at a five year 
> 
> > > old's 
> > > birthday party. I wonder if the brat's dad will let me use the 
> > > computer?
> > > 
> > > This is *SO* unfair :-(
> > > 
> > > Hah hah! Great job Clay. Thank you for feeding our obsessions. 
> > My 
> > > wife 
> > > may be less pleased with you than the rest of us. "What's this?! 
> 
> > > More 
> > > crap!?" It'll be all right though, Valentine's Day is coming. I 
> 
> > get 
> > > to 
> > > suck up then.
> > > 
> > > Later!
> > > 
> > > Brent
> > > 
> > 
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:01:13 EST
From: Zulis@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Date for posting the New "old kits" list
Message-ID: <1e7.123cefa.2b72c789@aol.com>


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In a message dated 2/5/2003 2:29:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
mtngoat01@juno.com writes:


> Make Australians get up early Sunday Morning.

Who are you kidding?   The Aussies I know would just stay up a little later, 
that's all.  :-)

DZ

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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:03:10 -0500 (EST)
From: jje4@earthlink.net
To: ", WWI Digest" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: What color is "Khaki"?
Message-ID: <3467092.1044475424225.JavaMail.nobody@beaker.psp.pas.earthlink.net>

Well....I always thought that the color "Khaki" was considered a tan / buff color. The Eduard N.11 instructions indicate that it is a green color - based on box cover art.

Have I been wrong all these years?

john ernst

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Date: Wed,  5 Feb 2003 21:18:59 +0100 (CET)
From: knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen)
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: One day in Brussels
Message-ID: <20030205201859.37EED345BC@login-3.eunet.no>

Hei,

I had to spend some frequent flier miles before they expired and
turned them into a one day trip to Brussels to visit the Army Museum.

So I will be there on Tuesday 18th, bringing my favourite cameras and
with the intention of spending most of the day in the aircraft museum.

I have been tipped about a model shop called "Au 16eme Escadron"
which is supposed to be nearby (Leegerlaan 136), are there other
shops or museums that I should try to find the time to visit?

And, are there some aircraft in the museum that I should pay special
attention to with regards to photo coverage for the list site?


              Eders
            Knut Erik

               





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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 20:23:22 +0000
From: pfalzdvii@att.net
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: What color is "Khaki"?
Message-ID: <3E30922F005B9D89@mta4.wss.scd.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com)

No, not really, but... 'Khaki' is a light tan, derived originally from the name 
of the 'earth' tan cotton cloth uniforms used by the British Army in the Boer 
War. However, the WWI British uniform color was called 'khaki drab', and that's 
a greenish brown, and the French had a color they called 'khaki' that was a 
lighter green, and other nations in hot climates, (the Israelis, etc) have 
uniform colors THEY call 'khaki' that cover the range, sooo...yes you were also 
wrong. 

--
Merrill 
Your Madness May Vary
> Well....I always thought that the color "Khaki" was considered a tan / buff 
> color. The Eduard N.11 instructions indicate that it is a green color - based on 
> box cover art.
> 
> Have I been wrong all these years?
> 
> john ernst

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