WWI Digest 4971 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History by "Diego Fernetti" 2) Re: Help about Polish Albatros C.Is by "Mike Muth" 3) Re: Old kits by "Diego Fernetti" 4) Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 5) February IM by "Bob Pearson" 6) Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History by "Mario Didier" 7) Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History by haywardd 8) Re: Site update:Alb DIII Oeffag progress by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 9) RE: February IM by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 10) RE: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 11) Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History by Al Superczynski 12) Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History by Clay W Fulcher 13) Re: Help about Polish Albatros C.Is by Ray 14) Sopwith Schneider by "Warren Munkasy" 15) Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History by Sean Brian Kirby 16) Re: Sopwith Schneider by "Brad Gossen" 17) Lothar's Dreidecker by Sean Brian Kirby 18) Re: Sopwith Schneider by "Warren Munkasy" 19) RE: Sopwith Schneider by "Michael Stanley" 20) February Internet Modeler is up by "Michael Kendix" 21) URGENT ASSISTANCE by "louisa estrada" 22) RE: Sopwith Schneider by "Steven Perry" 23) Re: Matt Retiring as assistant editor by "Matt Bittner" 24) Re: Nieuports have too many roundels!!!!!! by "Matt Bittner" 25) Re: February IM by "Matt Bittner" 26) Colour of Nieuport fuel tanks? by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 27) Columbia by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 28) RE: URGENT ASSISTANCE by "Warren Munkasy" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 22:03:37 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History Message-ID: >It appears the shuttle Columbia has gone down over Texas. It is a tragedy indeed. May the astronauts of the future be as brave and daring as all those who gave their lives in the quest of knowledge, whatever their nationality or beliefs. They shall live forever D. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:09:06 -0500 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Help about Polish Albatros C.Is Message-ID: <004c01c2ca3e$8a071be0$7549bacc@ptdprolog.net> Alberto: Someone on the list sent me some info on Polish AF awhile ago. I found one profile of Albatros CIa Wings are green, undersurfaces white. I can't tell if the fuselage is green or natural wood. The profile was photocopied and at the top it says: Barwa W Lotwnictwie Pulskim #7. have no idea what that means;-)) A second photocopied source is Insignia Magazine, Winter 1996. It has general info on Lithuanian Campaign. No CI profiles, but they indicate at least one was in service in December of 1918. Looks like regular checkerboards, with occasional red and white striped rudders. Not too much help, but I'm sure G will chime in soon ! Mike Muth ----- Original Message ----- From: Alberto Casirati To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 12:39 PM Subject: [WWI] Help about Polish Albatros C.Is > I am working on the Joystick vacuum-formed kit of the Albatros C.I and would > like to finish it in Polish markings. > Unfortunately, however, my modest reference files do not offer any picture > or reliable colour profile. > Is anyone able to suggest were I can find some ? > > Thanks very much in advance ! > > All the very best, > > Alberto Casirati > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 22:19:32 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Cc: mtngoat01@juno.com, a.casirati@lombardiacom.it Subject: Re: Old kits Message-ID: It's about the same model. I guess that the difference could be the upper fuselage fairing, as there is a post war version and some details that are pre-armistice. Anyway is not a bad model at all. I have one and I like it. Some work is involved to make it accurate, but if not, where's the fun? D. >From: Clay W Fulcher <> >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: Old kits >Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:49:31 -0500 (EST) > >Alberto, > >The Vickers Vimy is by a company called Novo Air Kits (Russian). Did they >become Frog? Do you want this one? > >Clay > >On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:41:25 -0500 (EST) "Alberto Casirati" > writes: > > Dear Clay, > > > > may I also get the Vickers Vimy by Frog ? > > > > TIA ! > > > > Alberto Casirati > > > >________________________________________________________________ >Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today >Only $9.95 per month! >Visit www.juno.com _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 16:25:52 -0600 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: Subject: Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History Message-ID: I just spent the last hour and a half watching the NASA news conference on CNN. They reported sensor failures in the left wing that progressively ran from trailing to leading edge. NASA doesn't know if there's a connection. It may be many months before (or if) anything comes out of the investigation. Plus there's still a crew on the space station, and the shuttles are basically now grounded--although they do have a Soyuz capsule. 100 years since the first powered controllable flight, and we're still pioneers, paying the price. Paul -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 4:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History >It appears the shuttle Columbia has gone down over Texas. It is a tragedy indeed. May the astronauts of the future be as brave and daring as all those who gave their lives in the quest of knowledge, whatever their nationality or beliefs. They shall live forever D. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 13:59:49 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: February IM Message-ID: <104413921901@smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com> Well, it is now live. . and yes, you can blame Matt for its delay .. If I had asked him to join a week ago it would have been ready last night :-) This time around we have an interesting OT build of a scratchbuilt 1/72 WWI Monitor M33 by George Peat, who also sends in some shots of the real thing as it is today in Portsmouth. Joel Christy scratchbuilt a 1/72 Wright Flyer. Mike Muth has something that is part OT and part way way ot. ...... Kit reviews are .. HMS Furious by Lorna Jenkins, Special Hobby SPAD VII by Jim Schubert, Roden Albatrosse and SE5a by "Guido", Eduard Junkers J.I and various SRAM 1/144 kits by myself. Book reviews have the JaPo Aviatik volume. Regards, Bob Pearson Managing Editor / Internet Modeler http://www.internetmodeler.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:40:56 +0100 From: "Mario Didier" To: Subject: Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History Message-ID: <001e01c2ca42$fcddc5c0$8e2d623e@nomeivkuq1t6t5> Being sure to represent the wishes of all italian people I Want to send my deepest condolences to the family of those unlucky men and women who lost their lives just a few minutes before coming back to them. Today we all have lost seven brothers and sisters. Mario Didier ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 17:47:27 -0500 From: haywardd To: Subject: Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History Message-ID: I just watched that too, I was very impressed by the professionalism of the NASA engineers. None of the overly emotional melodrama that the news networks put on the air, just straightforward answers and their determination to grieve, find the problem, fix it , and get back in space. A good example I think. Dan > From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:28:34 -0500 (EST) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History > > I just spent the last hour and a half watching the NASA news conference on > CNN. They reported sensor failures in the left wing that progressively ran > from trailing to leading edge. NASA doesn't know if there's a connection. > It may be many months before (or if) anything comes out of the > investigation. Plus there's still a crew on the space station, and the > shuttles are basically now grounded--although they do have a Soyuz capsule. > > 100 years since the first powered controllable flight, and we're still > pioneers, paying the price. > > Paul ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 10:02:26 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Site update:Alb DIII Oeffag progress Message-ID: <000601c2ca46$0097b920$314e2dcb@future> Thanks Mike, Now that the fuselage is together and the cowling part is sitting on top of the fuselage and as I look in through the cockpit opening I don't think it's too green either. Cheers Ross "Ross Not tooo green. I've been trying Modern Dessert Sand as a base and then some yellow/brown color I found. Seems to work OK for light wood. For darker, I've airbrushed Wood, and then applied a burnt sienna smear with a sponge. Mike Muth" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 10:05:12 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: February IM Message-ID: <000701c2ca46$63a319b0$314e2dcb@future> Love the Wright Flyer. What a wonderful build. Cheers Ross ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 10:09:06 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History Message-ID: <000801c2ca46$eb6bb0a0$314e2dcb@future> I was stunned in 1986 when that Space Shuttle went up and now this one. My prays and thoughts are for the friends and crews of this shuttle. No matter how good our technology gets this is edge of the razor stuff when it comes to going in and out of or planets atmosphere. Ross ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 17:16:53 -0600 From: Al Superczynski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History Message-ID: I've added a tribute to the Columbia and her crew on my website. -- Al http://www.network54.com/realm/modeleral/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 16:27:11 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History Message-ID: <20030201.162712.2592.6.mtngoat01@juno.com> Al, hey God bless you man. What a nice tribute. Thank you. Clay On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 18:19:25 -0500 (EST) Al Superczynski writes: > > I've added a tribute to the Columbia and her crew on my > website. > -- > Al > http://www.network54.com/realm/modeleral/ > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 15:52:03 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org, "Alberto Casirati" Subject: Re: Help about Polish Albatros C.Is Message-ID: <200302011552.03444.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> Alberto, there a few pictures of C.I'sin polish markings - One of which is upturned so you can see that its wings are camouflaged in Samoloty Wojskowe W Polsce 1918-1924. of course though I have this reference I am not Polish and can only look at the pictures and plans. Anyway if you want I can scan the photos in so you can see them. Ray On Saturday 01 February 2003 09:39, Alberto Casirati wrote: > I am working on the Joystick vacuum-formed kit of the Albatros C.I and > would like to finish it in Polish markings. > Unfortunately, however, my modest reference files do not offer any picture > or reliable colour profile. > Is anyone able to suggest were I can find some ? > > Thanks very much in advance ! > > All the very best, > > Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 19:10:59 -0500 From: "Warren Munkasy" To: Cc: Subject: Sopwith Schneider Message-ID: <001001c2ca4f$918f7400$6cbe56d1@warrenl9p6akf2> Please help me with this mystery: a Sopwith Schneider (advanced Tabloid on floats), in USAS markings and "Hat-in-the-Ring" insignia on the fuselage, is in the latest 1/48 plastic kit from Special Hobby (Czech Republic). Instructions state this is US aircraft "A-394" and ex-British "3765". The latter is a legitimate British production batch number. I have searched the Putnam and Crowood Sopwith Aircraft books, The Hat in the Ring Gang, Larkins' USN and USMC books, US Navy histories, and several others to try to resolve: 1. Was this a US European combat aircraft? To what unit might it belong- U.S. Naval, Marine? Is the "A-394" number a correct U.S. match for ex-British "3765"? The references don't mention that the US even operated Schneiders; at best, the kit instructions only say that "Several. were delivered to Canada and the USA". 2. I read "somewhere" that the "Hat-in-the-Ring" insignia was a general US graphic expression until it became associated only with the 94th Aero Squadron. Is that why it appears on a naval floatplane, or is this just the kit maker's imagination? 3. Has the US use of "Schneiders" in WW I been covered in a publication? Thanks for your attention. Warren Munkasy machmaster727@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 16:27:30 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History Message-ID: <20030202002730.53561.qmail@web14805.mail.yahoo.com> --- Al Superczynski wrote: > > I've added a tribute to the Columbia and her > crew on my website. Nice site, Al - very nice tribute. Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 19:26:50 -0800 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: Sopwith Schneider Message-ID: <000d01c2ca6a$ec8e7b60$97d45f41@bradgossen> Warren Royal Navy Aircraft Serials and Units 1911-1919 records the following for 3765: Deld Calshot 31.12.15; Collided with Calshot pier taxying 9.7.16 (2/Lt A Nelidow, Russian Cavalry unhurt); Blackburn 3.8.16-3.17 (repair); To RCNAS without engine 1918, then to US Navy as A394. Cheers Brad ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Munkasy" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 4:15 PM Subject: [WWI] Sopwith Schneider > Please help me with this mystery: a Sopwith Schneider (advanced Tabloid > on floats), in USAS markings and "Hat-in-the-Ring" insignia on the > fuselage, is in the latest 1/48 plastic kit from Special Hobby (Czech > Republic). Instructions state this is US aircraft "A-394" and ex-British > "3765". The latter is a legitimate British production batch number. > I have searched the Putnam and Crowood Sopwith Aircraft books, The Hat > in the Ring Gang, Larkins' USN and USMC books, US Navy histories, and > several others to try to resolve: > > 1. Was this a US European combat aircraft? To what unit might it belong- > U.S. Naval, Marine? Is the "A-394" number a correct U.S. match for > ex-British "3765"? The references don't mention that the US even > operated Schneiders; at best, the kit instructions only say that > "Several. were delivered to Canada and the USA". > > 2. I read "somewhere" that the "Hat-in-the-Ring" insignia was a general > US graphic expression until it became associated only with the 94th Aero > Squadron. Is that why it appears on a naval floatplane, or is this just > the kit maker's imagination? > > 3. Has the US use of "Schneiders" in WW I been covered in a publication? > > Thanks for your attention. > Warren Munkasy > > machmaster727@earthlink.net > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 16:42:08 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: WWI List Subject: Lothar's Dreidecker Message-ID: <20030202004208.44518.qmail@web14812.mail.yahoo.com> So, the yellow outer upper wings on Lothar's Dr.1 (454/17) are fictional? They have been depicted this way in paintings, Osprey profiles, kit instructions... what gives? Am asking 'cause I read this assertion in old List correspondence. (Thanks again, Google...) Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 20:53:09 -0500 From: "Warren Munkasy" To: Subject: Re: Sopwith Schneider Message-ID: <002701c2ca5d$d7912c60$6cbe56d1@warrenl9p6akf2> Brad Grossen: Amazing- to receive interest and an answer so quickly is breath-taking. My son was right about a new computer and "joining the 21st Century". With gratitude, I cavalierly exceed my authority and award you the DFC! Warren machmaster727@earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Brad Gossen Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:38 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Sopwith Schneider Warren Royal Navy Aircraft Serials and Units 1911-1919 records the following for 3765: Deld Calshot 31.12.15; Collided with Calshot pier taxying 9.7.16 (2/Lt A Nelidow, Russian Cavalry unhurt); Blackburn 3.8.16-3.17 (repair); To RCNAS without engine 1918, then to US Navy as A394. Cheers Brad ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Munkasy" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 4:15 PM Subject: [WWI] Sopwith Schneider > Please help me with this mystery: a Sopwith Schneider (advanced Tabloid > on floats), in USAS markings and "Hat-in-the-Ring" insignia on the > fuselage, is in the latest 1/48 plastic kit from Special Hobby (Czech > Republic). Instructions state this is US aircraft "A-394" and ex-British > "3765". The latter is a legitimate British production batch number. > I have searched the Putnam and Crowood Sopwith Aircraft books, The Hat > in the Ring Gang, Larkins' USN and USMC books, US Navy histories, and > several others to try to resolve: > > 1. Was this a US European combat aircraft? To what unit might it belong- > U.S. Naval, Marine? Is the "A-394" number a correct U.S. match for > ex-British "3765"? The references don't mention that the US even > operated Schneiders; at best, the kit instructions only say that > "Several. were delivered to Canada and the USA". > > 2. I read "somewhere" that the "Hat-in-the-Ring" insignia was a general > US graphic expression until it became associated only with the 94th Aero > Squadron. Is that why it appears on a naval floatplane, or is this just > the kit maker's imagination? > > 3. Has the US use of "Schneiders" in WW I been covered in a publication? > > Thanks for your attention. > Warren Munkasy > > machmaster727@earthlink.net > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 21:00:04 -0500 From: "Michael Stanley" To: Subject: RE: Sopwith Schneider Message-ID: <005e01c2ca5e$cedb2480$5f00a8c0@MIKES> As per #2 I have heard it was a common expression at the time. Teddy Roosevelt had "thrown his hat into the ring" about 6 - 8 years before the war to end all wars. -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Warren Munkasy Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:17 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Sopwith Schneider Please help me with this mystery: a Sopwith Schneider (advanced Tabloid on floats), in USAS markings and "Hat-in-the-Ring" insignia on the fuselage, is in the latest 1/48 plastic kit from Special Hobby (Czech Republic). Instructions state this is US aircraft "A-394" and ex-British "3765". The latter is a legitimate British production batch number. I have searched the Putnam and Crowood Sopwith Aircraft books, The Hat in the Ring Gang, Larkins' USN and USMC books, US Navy histories, and several others to try to resolve: 1. Was this a US European combat aircraft? To what unit might it belong- U.S. Naval, Marine? Is the "A-394" number a correct U.S. match for ex-British "3765"? The references don't mention that the US even operated Schneiders; at best, the kit instructions only say that "Several. were delivered to Canada and the USA". 2. I read "somewhere" that the "Hat-in-the-Ring" insignia was a general US graphic expression until it became associated only with the 94th Aero Squadron. Is that why it appears on a naval floatplane, or is this just the kit maker's imagination? 3. Has the US use of "Schneiders" in WW I been covered in a publication? Thanks for your attention. Warren Munkasy machmaster727@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 02:21:17 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: February Internet Modeler is up Message-ID: Another edition of IM is up. Actually, I'm wondering if I'm subscribed to the list, so apologies if this repeats previous information. Michael _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 18:27:04 -0800 From: "louisa estrada" To: louisaestrada22@37.com Subject: URGENT ASSISTANCE Message-ID: <200302020227.h122R4912682@mail21.bigmailbox.com> Dear Listen and read carefully, i have found seriousness in you and that is why i have decided to involve you in this transaction o.k , i am a woman of substance and of great importance to my nation and the society in general. i wll not entertain any act of unseriousness from you in this transaction o.k you must take instructions from me at all time and for security reasons you will only communicate me only by my email for now o.k. I,am Mrs LOUISA EJERCITOR ESTRADA , the wife of Mr Joseph Estrada the former president of Philippine located in the south east Asia. My husband was presently impeached from office by a backed uprising of mass demonstrators and the senate. During my husband's regime as president of Philippine, I realised US$120.5millions of dollars from various contract projects I executed successfully. I had planed to invest this money in real estate and industral production. Now i have used an NGO to move the money to a bank in overseas, i want you to assist me transfer the money to your bank account as the beneficiary because i do not want the philippine government to trace and confiscate this one. they have confiscated all our asset. This is the only money left for me and my family o.k Now if you agree, i will offer you 25% of the total fund, and you must keep it very secret and confidential o.k. There is no risk involved, all i want from you is , your complete name, address, bank particulars phone and fax numbers, company name if any and you must be honest o.k this money will be transfered to your account as soon as you release this requirements o.k ? You can contact me on myalternative email:louisaestrada1300@mail.com. i look forward to having a good relationship with you o.k regards, Mrs Louise Estrada ------------------------------------------------------------ http://Game.37.com/ <--- Free Games http://newJoke.com/ <--- J O K E S ! ! ! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 21:52:53 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: RE: Sopwith Schneider Message-ID: <009b01c2ca66$2f833c80$65a8a8c0@tampabay.rr.com> Michael Stanley writes: > As per #2 I have heard it was a common expression at the time. Teddy > Roosevelt had "thrown his hat into the ring" about 6 - 8 years before the > war to end all wars. Hi Michael Great to see you post to the List. I'm juggling days off at work to make it to the club meeting Tuesday. Hope to see you there. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 21:02:40 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Matt Retiring as assistant editor Message-ID: On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 16:45:25 -0500 (EST), Mike Muth wrote: > I assume this means you will still be informing us of all the neat kits > in 1/48 as soon as they come out. Yea, right. Hope you're holding your breath, too. ;-) Matt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 21:04:11 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Nieuports have too many roundels!!!!!! Message-ID: Ha! If you think French Nieuports have too many roundels, then build some of the IRAS ones. Not only roundels on the wings, but on the fuselage - both sides - *and* on both sides of the horizontal tail surfaces. Plus some had the roundel colors painted on the wheel covers (which was also a French practice, but it just increases the number of roundels). Matt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 21:10:38 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: February IM Message-ID: On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:42:38 -0500 (EST), Bob Pearson wrote: > Book reviews have the JaPo Aviatik volume. There was supposed to be another, but oh well... That's what I get for *just* joining the team. ;-) Matt "Guido" Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 15:03:40 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Colour of Nieuport fuel tanks? Message-ID: <001001c2ca70$11d2a2c0$314e2dcb@future> Could someone remind me what colour the fuel tank is in a Nieuport? Cheers Ross ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 01:12:17 -0500 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Columbia Message-ID: Out of a long lurk mode (at least a year) I'm working the news desk of our newspaper having watched the TV all day. As you can imagine I have been indundated by literally hundreds of stories about the shuttle disaster. Fortunately for the crew aboard the space station they don't need the shuttle to get home _ they have a Soyuz descent vehicle attached for emergency use. Also the Russians can handle supply through their rocket program. My soul is scarred in this job (imagine working in a news room for this and 9-11 and the Gulf War and just about any disaster that hits) Unlike most I can't turn off the TV or stop looking at the stills and stories. . .it's my job to sift through them all. My thoughts and prayers go to the families of all the crew. I only hope their loss will herald a new era of space vehicle rather than a retreat from this final frontier. Amen mvj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:24:46 -0500 From: "Warren Munkasy" To: Subject: RE: URGENT ASSISTANCE Message-ID: <002c01c2ca7b$68636dd0$6cbe56d1@warrenl9p6akf2> Sorry, Louisa, I'm new around here- I thought these guys collected model kits, not women's shoes, shills, and suckers... (exactly WHERE did she detect "seriousness" in me?) Warren machmaster727@earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of louisa estrada Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 9:31 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] URGENT ASSISTANCE Dear Listen and read carefully, i have found seriousness in you and that is why i have decided to involve you in this transaction o.k , i am a woman of substance and of great importance to my nation and the society in general. i wll not entertain any act of unseriousness from you in this transaction o.k you must take instructions from me at all time and for security reasons you will only communicate me only by my email for now o.k. I,am Mrs LOUISA EJERCITOR ESTRADA , the wife of Mr Joseph Estrada the former president of Philippine located in the south east Asia. My husband was presently impeached from office by a backed uprising of mass demonstrators and the senate. During my husband's regime as president of Philippine, I realised US$120.5millions of dollars from various contract projects I executed successfully. I had planed to invest this money in real estate and industral production. Now i have used an NGO to move the money to a bank in overseas, i want you to assist me transfer the money to your bank account as the beneficiary because i do not want the philippine government to trace and confiscate this one. they have confiscated all our asset. This is the only money left for me and my family o.k Now if you agree, i will offer you 25% of the total fund, and you must keep it very secret and confidential o.k. There is no risk involved, all i want from you is , your complete name, address, bank particulars phone and fax numbers, company name if any and you must be honest o.k this money will be transfered to your account as soon as you release this requirements o.k ? You can contact me on myalternative email:louisaestrada1300@mail.com. i look forward to having a good relationship with you o.k regards, Mrs Louise Estrada ------------------------------------------------------------ http://Game.37.com/ <--- Free Games http://newJoke.com/ <--- J O K E S ! ! ! ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4971 **********************