WWI Digest 4970 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Matt Retiring as assistant editor by "Matt Bittner" 2) Another Tragic Day In Aviation History by "Brad Gossen" 3) RE: Matt Retiring as assistant editor by "Matt Bittner" 4) PLEASE ADVISE by "chidox" 5) re Thinning Fuselage Walls/Pup Update by "NEIL EDDY" 6) Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History by "Shane Weier" 7) Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History by "Robert Langham" 8) Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History by Clay W Fulcher 9) Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History by Clay W Fulcher 10) Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History by "NEIL EDDY" 11) Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History by "Dave Burke" 12) Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History by "Dave Burke" 13) Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History by Clay W Fulcher 14) Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 15) Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation by "Brad Gossen" 16) Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History by "Hans Trauner" 17) Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History by "Richard Eaton" 18) Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History by "Pedro Soares" 19) Help about Polish Albatros C.Is by "Alberto Casirati" 20) Re: Old kits by "Alberto Casirati" 21) Re: Old kits by Clay W Fulcher 22) Space Shuttle by Zulis@aol.com 23) Re: Space Shuttle by Sean Brian Kirby 24) Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History by Sean Brian Kirby 25) Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation by Sean Brian Kirby 26) Re: Space Shuttle by Clay W Fulcher 27) Re: Space Shuttle by dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com 28) Re: more old kits, Part 1 by Sean Brian Kirby 29) Re: Space Shuttle by Sean Brian Kirby 30) Re: Matt Retiring as assistant editor by Sean Brian Kirby 31) Re: Site update:Alb DIII Oeffag progress by "Mike Muth" 32) Re: Matt Retiring as assistant editor by "Mike Muth" 33) Nieuports have too many roundels!!!!!! by "Pedro Soares" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 08:32:03 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Matt Retiring as assistant editor Message-ID: On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 01:54:32 -0500 (EST), Shane Weier wrote: > However, FWIW, even I reckon Matt's done a hell of a lot of work to help Al > keep us all afloat, and for that I'll even forgive his Francophile ravings > :-) Gee, I guess that's as good as Shane can give. :-)) Thanks, Shane. Even that means a lot. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:26:41 -0800 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History Message-ID: <003f01c2ca17$15e3bba0$78d25f41@bradgossen> It appears the shuttle Columbia has gone down over Texas. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 08:35:18 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: Matt Retiring as assistant editor Message-ID: Thanks to everyone for the good words. It was fun while it lasted. Hopefully I can do a good job over at IM, especially with keeping deadlines. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 01 03:18:42 Pacific Standard Time From: "chidox" To: "wwi" Subject: PLEASE ADVISE Message-ID: <200302011440.JAA21994@mustang.sr.unh.edu> ------=_NextPart_000_002C_4F7E907A.61E1B487 Content-Type: text/plain; charset= "gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 U2lyLA0KSG93IGFyZSB5b3U/IEFsdGhvdWdoIHdlIGhhdmUgbm90IG1ldCBiZWZvcmUsYnV0 IHdlIHNoYWxsIHNvb24gbWVldCBkdXJpbmcgdGhlIGNvdXJzZQ0Kb2YgdGhpcyB0cmFuc2Fj dGlvbiwgdG8gYmUgcHJlY2lzZSxteSBuYW1lIGlzIEhvbiBDaGlrYSBTYW5kb3gsIGluZmFj dCBJIGFtIG1haWxpbmcgeW91DQpiZWNhdXNlIEkgYW0gaW4gbmVlZCBvZiBhIGZvcmVpZ24g cGFydG5lciB0aGF0IHdpbGwgYXNzaXN0IG1lIHRvIGludmVzdCB0aGUgbGVnYWN5IGxlZnQN CmZvciB0aGUgRmFtaWx5LiBUaGUgYW1vdW50IGludm9sdmVkIGlzIE5pbmUgTWlsbGlvbiBV LlMuRG9sbGFycywgYW5kIGlzIHNhdmVkIHdpdGgNCkdsb2JhbCBEaXNjb3VudCBhbmQgRmlu YW5jZSBIb3VzZSwgd2hpY2ggaGF2ZSBicmFuY2hlcyBhdCBFdXJvcGUgYW5kIEFmcmljYS4g SSBhbQ0KcmVhZHkgdG8gbWVldCBhbmQgaG9sZCBtZWV0aW5nIHdpdGggeW91LldoZW4geW91 IGluZGljYXRlIHlvdXIgaW50ZXJlc3QsIHdlIHNoYWxsDQp0aGVuIGRpc2N1c3MgeW91ciBj b21taXNzaW9uIGFuZCB0aGUgbW9kbGl0aWVzIGZvciBoYW5kbGluZyB0aGUgdHJhbnNhY3Rp b24uIEFzIHNvb24NCmFzIHlvdSBpbmRpY2F0ZSB5b3VyIGludGVyZXN0LCBJIHdpbGwgdGVs bCB5b3UgdGhlIG5leHQgbGluZSBvZiBhY3Rpb24uSGF2ZSBhIG5pY2UgZGF5Lg0KWXJzIHNp bmNlcmVseSwNCk1yIEhvbiBTLkNoaWthLg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoN Cg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KICAgIA== ------=_NextPart_000_002C_4F7E907A.61E1B487-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 02:02:36 +1100 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: re Thinning Fuselage Walls/Pup Update Message-ID: <002101c2ca02$f5cea0a0$4ef932d2@default> Better not Shane, in these uncertain times it may create an international incident. Given the rugby players outlandish size, maybe a Cassowary is more appropriate..... Save the Goanna for the Finger Chopper in case he gets cheeky.... On a modelling note, I finished my Sopwith Pup tonight (well, I still need to do the topcoat). I started work putting the 1/72 Pegasus serials in place on the rudder at about 8.00pm and finished around 1.30am (all that work for 10 tiny numerals and letters) and don't ask me why I'm putting them on now and not before I rigged the rudder....There is only one answer... Doh! All the Best Neil E (maybe we should start exporting Cassowaries...scarier than cane toads I reckon) Subject: Re: Thinning Fuselage Walls Neil >Yes please, do cough up Old Chap, we have ways of making Argentinians >talk >you know...... > >Hand me that Goanna, Parker..... Maybe I should nip over the river to ballymore and try it out on the Argentina Rugby Sevens team - just to be sure it'd work okay of Diego? Of course they may be big tough blokes 9 foot tall.... Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 01:04:07 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History Message-ID: Brad >It appears the shuttle Columbia has gone down over Texas. Yes. After 100 years the leading edge is still sharp enough to cut. RIP Shane :-( ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** >From: "Brad Gossen" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Another Tragic Day In Aviation History >Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:37:08 -0500 (EST) > _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 15:05:19 +0000 From: "Robert Langham" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History Message-ID: Hi, im in the UK, and watching the news, the space shuttle is still coming down. Apparently it was on its way to land. God bless the crew, I hope by sime miracle they survive Robert Langham _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons http://messenger.msn.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 08:24:20 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History Message-ID: <20030201.082421.3296.1.mtngoat01@juno.com> My in-laws in Dallas heard the sonic boom. What a disaster. On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:37:08 -0500 (EST) "Brad Gossen" writes: > It appears the shuttle Columbia has gone down over Texas. > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 08:28:48 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History Message-ID: <20030201.082849.3296.4.mtngoat01@juno.com> There is no escape pod. For whatever asinine reason. There is no hope for the crew. Geez. --Clay On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:07:38 -0500 (EST) "Robert Langham" writes: > Hi, im in the UK, and watching the news, the space shuttle is still > coming > down. Apparently it was on its way to land. God bless the crew, I > hope by > sime miracle they survive > > Robert Langham > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself with cool emoticons http://messenger.msn.co.uk > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 02:35:13 +1100 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History Message-ID: <004501c2ca07$83beda20$4ef932d2@default> What a terrible thing to happen. Anyone surviving a crash from 200,000ft will be extremely lucky indeed. One of the crew was Israel's first astronaut too. IRC Columbia was the oldest of the Shuttle fleet, it had successfully completed 28 flights. My sympathy goes out to the families of the Astronauts who gave their lives for science. Neil E ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Langham" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 2:07 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History > Hi, im in the UK, and watching the news, the space shuttle is still coming > down. Apparently it was on its way to land. God bless the crew, I hope by > sime miracle they survive > > Robert Langham > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself with cool emoticons http://messenger.msn.co.uk > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:08:54 -0600 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History Message-ID: <004501c2ca0c$38c86270$f393aec7@computer> Hi Y'all, I have done quite a bit of research about the shuttle over the last several years. It is a truly complex machine. But it is far from perfect. Such as it is with all flying machines. Ernest Gann wrote a book, "Fate is the Hunter". Eventually the numbers catch up to you when you engage in risky behavior. Spaceflight is risky, no matter how routine a face NASA puts on it. Especially when faith is put on ageing equipment and a small budget. This is a really bad day. With any luck, it will have the effect of scrapping the shuttle fleet and pushing us to a new level with new craft. In my opinion, it would be the only fitting legacy for our lost astronauts. DB ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:11:21 -0600 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History Message-ID: <004d01c2ca0c$8ff79160$f393aec7@computer> > There is no escape pod. For whatever asinine reason. There is no hope for > the crew. > Geez. > --Clay Not much that one can do to incorporate an escape pod. Not that an escape pod would have helped - it happened too quick and at to great a speed and altitude. There was nothing that could be done. DB ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:19:04 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History Message-ID: <20030201.091904.2192.0.mtngoat01@juno.com> Well said, Dave. I am an engineer, and all my life I've been associated with the Space Program, mainly through my dad who is also an engineer. I thought at one time they looked at making the cabin a pod, but decided it was too expensive. I hope this is not true. My first reaction was emotional and angry, but this response is not appropriate. I agree that it is time to put up a new generation of craft and scrap the shuttle fleet. They won't for awhile though since the people in the Space Station need the shuttle to get home. I hope they don't find that someone sabotaged the tiles before the Columbia left the planet. --Clay On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:10:11 -0500 (EST) "Dave Burke" writes: > Hi Y'all, > > I have done quite a bit of research about the shuttle over the > last > several years. It is a truly complex machine. But it is far from > perfect. > Such as it is with all flying machines. > > Ernest Gann wrote a book, "Fate is the Hunter". Eventually the > numbers > catch up to you when you engage in risky behavior. Spaceflight is > risky, no > matter how routine a face NASA puts on it. Especially when faith is > put on > ageing equipment and a small budget. > > This is a really bad day. With any luck, it will have the > effect of > scrapping the shuttle fleet and pushing us to a new level with new > craft. > In my opinion, it would be the only fitting legacy for our lost > astronauts. > > > DB > > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 16:25:52 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History Message-ID: <1044116752.3e3bf510d9872@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting NEIL EDDY : > What a terrible thing to happen. Anyone surviving a crash from 200,000ft > will be extremely lucky indeed. At 200,000 feet and Mach 6, an escape system would have been pretty useless. > > IRC Columbia was the oldest of the Shuttle fleet, it had successfully > completed 28 flights. > Which, IIRC, is frighteningly close to NASA's original prediction of one loss per 25 flights. A sad day, and my thoughts are with the families of those who were lost. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:23:56 -0800 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation Message-ID: <008b01c2ca27$76c2ac00$78d25f41@bradgossen> Current speculation is that the shield was damaged during the ascent leading to disintegration on re-entry. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:38:00 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History Message-ID: <009901c2ca10$4908dbc0$4aa172d4@FRITZweb> My sympathies are with the families of the crew. I am wondering if there is any chance to find out the reason for this catastrophic failure. Tile problems spring to my mind, but also material fatique problems. Remember the Comet. The next Shuttle family should have a rescue device of any kind. Space aircraft are no airliners! Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:29:03 -0600 From: "Richard Eaton" To: Subject: Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History Message-ID: <006201c2ca17$6c188500$aa315d18@austin.rr.com> Many a time I have watch the shuttle reenter from Austin (100 miles south of the usual flight path). It is an awesome and beautiful site. The vehicle takes around 15 seconds to move from horizon to horizon leaving a slowly dissipating luminous trail across the northern sky. We are too far south usually to hear the sonic boom (which is normal). Brave Columbia broke up over north Texas at 40 miles altitude doing mach six heading south east. In east Texas the ground shook. The debris field stretches from east Texas, through southern Louisiana, and then across the gulf of Mexico toward Florida. God bless the crew. Regards, Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Gossen" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 8:37 AM Subject: [WWI] Another Tragic Day In Aviation History > It appears the shuttle Columbia has gone down over Texas. > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:40:57 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History Message-ID: <002101c2ca19$147b1900$d8465451@netcabo.pt> Oh shit! Just saw their faces on TV. smilling...and looking forward to go up to learn...discover... my thoughts are with them and their families Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 18:33:02 +0100 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: "WW1 Modeling List" Subject: Help about Polish Albatros C.Is Message-ID: <001601c2ca18$0587b1c0$69e422d4@s> I am working on the Joystick vacuum-formed kit of the Albatros C.I and would like to finish it in Polish markings. Unfortunately, however, my modest reference files do not offer any picture or reliable colour profile. Is anyone able to suggest were I can find some ? Thanks very much in advance ! All the very best, Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 18:37:53 +0100 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: Subject: Re: Old kits Message-ID: <002301c2ca18$a9cff800$69e422d4@s> Dear Clay, may I also get the Vickers Vimy by Frog ? TIA ! Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:46:21 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Old kits Message-ID: <20030201.104621.1428.0.mtngoat01@juno.com> Alberto, The Vickers Vimy is by a company called Novo Air Kits (Russian). Did they become Frog? Do you want this one? Clay On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:41:25 -0500 (EST) "Alberto Casirati" writes: > Dear Clay, > > may I also get the Vickers Vimy by Frog ? > > TIA ! > > Alberto Casirati > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 13:09:22 -0500 From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Space Shuttle Message-ID: <016E5D63.22F01F11.000121E7@aol.com> I cannot help but be amazed at the way our world communicates in the year 2003. A man in Texas was in his back yard, having his morning coffee, when he saw what he thought was a meteorite. He called his wife, who decided to get her digital camera and take some pictures. They then went inside, turned on the tv, and heard CNN saying that something was wrong with the shuttle... and only THEN did they hear the sonic boom from the event. They immediately sent their digital pics to CNN by email and they were shown to the world. And here we are, scattered all over the world, discussing it in a newsgroup. I know this has been an "ot" sort of morning, but compare the paragraph above with the information fog which prevailed throughout the Great War. Sometimes I am amazed that we are able to reconstruct anything at all from that period. Feeling sad and contemplative, Dave Z. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:02:10 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Space Shuttle Message-ID: <20030201190210.36989.qmail@web14803.mail.yahoo.com> --- Zulis@aol.com wrote: > Feeling sad and contemplative, I am in tears. Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:09:28 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation History Message-ID: <20030201190928.68176.qmail@web14811.mail.yahoo.com> --- Clay W Fulcher wrote: > I hope they don't find that someone sabotaged the > tiles before the > Columbia left the planet. A week or two ago, had a bad feeling this mission would not come off; Ilan Ramon was the first Israeli in space. Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:11:24 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Another Tragic Day In Aviation Message-ID: <20030201191124.86754.qmail@web14812.mail.yahoo.com> --- Brad Gossen wrote: > Current speculation is that the shield was damaged > during the ascent leading > to disintegration on re-entry. This is probably what happened. But the circumstance is just eerie. With the pieces, they will be able to determine what happened to Columbia. Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:11:20 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Space Shuttle Message-ID: <20030201.121121.1348.0.mtngoat01@juno.com> Me too Sean. My guts hurt. -Clay On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:03:48 -0500 (EST) Sean Brian Kirby writes: > > --- Zulis@aol.com wrote: > > Feeling sad and contemplative, > > > > I am in tears. > > > > Sean > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 19:34:11 +0000 From: dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Space Shuttle Message-ID: <1044128051.3e3c213351a0d@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Zulis@aol.com: > > I cannot help but be amazed at the way our world communicates in the > year 2003. > > I know this has been an "ot" sort of morning, but compare the paragraph > above with the information fog which prevailed throughout the Great War. > Sometimes I am amazed that we are able to reconstruct anything at all > from that period. > It's also strange to consider that the world is so shocked by the sudden death of 7 people, yet in WW1 (and even today) 30,000 could die in one day and it be just another day at the front. Another effect of instant communication. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:34:55 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: more old kits, Part 1 Message-ID: <20030201193455.8175.qmail@web14803.mail.yahoo.com> --- Ray wrote: > Wasnt it a Deperdussin that won the first Schneider > Trophy race in 1913. Its > one of the most elegant floatplanes of its time if > it was. > > Ray > On Friday 31 January 2003 01:16, you wrote: > > If that was because it's ot, I don't think you > need to worry, > > it's only one year before WW1, and I think we're > allowed to > > talk about precursors of WW1 aircraft, and the Dep > racer was > > what Bechereau did before designing the Spad > series, so OT! I was under the impression that pioneering a/c were okay. Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:41:01 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Space Shuttle Message-ID: <20030201194101.85415.qmail@web14809.mail.yahoo.com> --- dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com wrote: > It's also strange to consider that the world is so > shocked by the sudden death > of 7 people, yet in WW1 (and even today) 30,000 > could die in one day and it be > just another day at the front. Another effect of > instant communication. Such irony is not missed here - all choked-up over the death of seven (brave) individuals. Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:55:40 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Matt Retiring as assistant editor Message-ID: <20030201195540.69342.qmail@web14801.mail.yahoo.com> --- Matt Bittner wrote: > On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 01:54:32 -0500 (EST), Shane Weier > wrote: > > > However, FWIW, even I reckon Matt's done a hell of > a lot of work to help Al > > keep us all afloat, and for that I'll even forgive > his Francophile ravings > > :-) > > Gee, I guess that's as good as Shane can give. :-)) > > Thanks, Shane. Even that means a lot. > > > Matt Francophile?!? Dagged, Matt, is Shane saying you're a fan of Fascism in Spain. Gotta' learn to read between the lines, man. ;) Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 16:42:13 -0500 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Site update:Alb DIII Oeffag progress Message-ID: <002401c2ca3a$c95ca0c0$7549bacc@ptdprolog.net> Ross Not tooo green. I've been trying Modern Dessert Sand as a base and then some yellow/brown color I found. Seems to work OK for light wood. For darker, I've airbrushed Wood, and then applied a burnt sienna smear with a sponge. Mike Muth ----- Original Message ----- From: ot811 To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 12:21 AM Subject: [WWI] Site update:Alb DIII Oeffag progress > Ross Moorhouse sent in 4 more build pics of his Albatros DIII Oeffag. > See > http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Moorhouse/CP/index.html > or news > regards > Sanjeev > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 16:46:35 -0500 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Matt Retiring as assistant editor Message-ID: <003f01c2ca3b$650060c0$7549bacc@ptdprolog.net> Matt I assume this means you will still be informing us of all the neat kits in 1/48 as soon as they come out. Thanks for all the help. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 22:06:22 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Nieuports have too many roundels!!!!!! Message-ID: <000b01c2ca3e$27ecab00$d8465451@netcabo.pt> Just when I was thinking of decalling my Guynemer Nieuport I suddenly realised I had forgoten to apply the top wing undersurface cocardes before attaching the wing and rigging.... I now have to make cuts into the decal and touch up later..... Pedro Thanks for listening guys, I feel better now! ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4970 **********************