WWI Digest 4966 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: more old kits, Part 1 by Crawford Neil 2) Re: more old kits, Part 1 by Crawford Neil 3) Re: old kits by "Shane Weier" 4) Re: old kits by Crawford Neil 5) Re: more old kits, Part 1 by "Shane Weier" 6) Re: more old kits, Part 1 by "Shane Weier" 7) Re: old kits by "Shane Weier" 8) Re: old kits by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 9) Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. by Crawford Neil 10) Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. by "Shane Weier" 11) Re: Hyperscale today..... by Crawford Neil 12) tastes, was RE: Re: Hyperscale today..... by "Pedro N. Soares" 13) Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. by "Matt Bittner" 14) Re: Buzzards? by "Matt Bittner" 15) RE: tastes, was RE: Re: Hyperscale today..... by Crawford Neil 16) RE: tastes, was RE: Re: Hyperscale today..... by "Pedro N. Soares" 17) Revell news by Crawford Neil 18) Re: more old kits, Part 1 by "Diego Fernetti" 19) Re: site update: 3 models by "Diego Fernetti" 20) Perry's Lohner by "Diego Fernetti" 21) Re: Thanks Diego by "Diego Fernetti" 22) Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. by "NEIL EDDY" 23) Re: more old kits, Part 1 by Clay W Fulcher 24) Re: Thanks Diego by "Shane Weier" 25) Re: Thanks Diego by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 26) Re: old kits by Clay W Fulcher 27) Re: more old kits, Part 1 by Clay W Fulcher 28) Re: more old kits, Part 1 by Crawford Neil 29) Old Kits Part 1 Update by Clay W Fulcher 30) Old Kits Part 2 Update by Clay W Fulcher 31) RE: Old Kits Part 1 Update by Crawford Neil 32) urgent request by "MR JAMES KYARI" 33) Re: Revell news by Volker Haeusler ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:05:47 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: more old kits, Part 1 Message-ID: Yep, first plane faster then 200kph. /Neil C. > > Hi mate, > > Thank you for setting me straight. I am on a steep learning curve when > it comes to pre-WWI planes. I just opened up Munson's Pioneer Aircraft > to see if this plane is in there and there it is. Wow so > modern looking. > I like it. > > Cheers > > Ross > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:14:36 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: more old kits, Part 1 Message-ID: If that was because it's ot, I don't think you need to worry, it's only one year before WW1, and I think we're allowed to talk about precursors of WW1 aircraft, and the Dep racer was what Bechereau did before designing the Spad series, so OT! /Neil C. > This was to go off list. My mistake. :-( > > Cheers > > Ross > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:37:42 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: old kits Message-ID: Neil >I think it's Lost in France Another WW1 MIA...... Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:39:36 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: old kits Message-ID: > :-ŝ > > Shane Gosh, I'm impressed, where did you find that one? /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:40:37 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: more old kits, Part 1 Message-ID: Neil says >It won't be the same as the 12-squared kit, that is for a 1913 >Gordon-Bennnet >racer. I guess the Australian one was a Deperdussin TT or similar 2-seater. Nope. It's a single seat 1913 military monoplane, fitted with a 3 cylinder Anzani engine. I have about 30 photos of it taken at Treloar in 1995 but no scanner. At the time the wings were covered and the rest uncovered, so the details were all there to see Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:43:02 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: more old kits, Part 1 Message-ID: Neil >If that was because it's ot, I don't think you need to worry, >it's only one year before WW1, and I think we're allowed to >talk about precursors of WW1 aircraft Well Ross was initially talking about the one in the AWM which is most certainly OT being used as a trainer at Point Cook prior to and during WW1 Shane (a ground taxi trainer - not enough power to get off the ground) ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:45:16 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: old kits Message-ID: Neil > > :-ŝ > >Gosh, I'm impressed, where did you find that one? Cropped from the centre of a picture of Matt Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 20:53:16 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: old kits Message-ID: <3E3A478C.86367585@tac.com.au> Crawford Neil wrote: > > > :-ŝ > > > > Shane > > Gosh, I'm impressed, where did you find that one? We could tell you, but then we'd have to kill you ;-ŝ StY ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:46:56 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. Message-ID: > Oooooh, ho will be the first to finish one? This is *much* > more exciting > than worrying about SPAD wingtips.... Cooler colour schemes > for one thing. > > Shane Well if your idea of high-life is a tinlet of PC10 then by all means, gimme white wine and Spad wingtips anyday! Ah, the elegance, the grace, vive la France etc. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:58:02 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. Message-ID: Neil says >gimme white wine and Spad wingtips anyday! >Ah, the elegance, the grace, vive la France etc. Yeeerrrrs White wingtips and SPAD whines.....a the elegance Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 11:03:52 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Hyperscale today..... Message-ID: And what are you doing building 1/48 Dave? (and finishing something!) Isn't that nearly as sensational as Shane debauching on white wine? /Neil C. PS. OK I'll come clean, I like red wine and SE5's too. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:12:49 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: tastes, was RE: Re: Hyperscale today..... Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B3029F815E@TUFAO> > PS. OK I'll come clean, I like red wine and SE5's too. Neil, we really ought to meet someday! Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 04:54:58 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. Message-ID: On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:19:26 -0500 (EST), Shane Weier wrote: > Oooooh, ho will be the first to finish one? This is *much* more exciting > than worrying about SPAD wingtips.... Cooler colour schemes for one thing. What, PC-10 over CDL? :-{]~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 04:56:15 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Buzzards? Message-ID: On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:44:50 -0500 (EST), Stuart L. Malone wrote: > Could you be thinking of the Martinsyde Elephant by Rosemont? I bought one > of these when they first came out with the intent of converting it into an > F3 or F4. I don't think I even opened the bag..... Thanks everyone for the correction. That is indeed the one I was thinking of. Think I'll shut up now about British models... ;-) Matt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:17:19 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: tastes, was RE: Re: Hyperscale today..... Message-ID: How about a glass of Port, old chap! /Neil C. > Neil, > > we really ought to meet someday! > > Pedro > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 11:36:01 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: tastes, was RE: Re: Hyperscale today..... Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B3029F8345@TUFAO> PARKEEEEER!!!!! Oops, wrong forum! Pedro > -----Original Message----- > From: Crawford Neil [mailto:Neil.Crawford@volvo.com] > Sent: sexta-feira, 31 de Janeiro de 2003 11:19 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: tastes, was RE: Re: Hyperscale today..... > > > How about a glass of Port, old chap! > /Neil C. > > > Neil, > > > > we really ought to meet someday! > > > > Pedro > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:47:02 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Revell news Message-ID: Here's Revells Nurnberg toy fair site, no new Fokker there except a magic-flite one, at least not as far as I can see. http://www.revell.de/de/modelkits/messe/bildergalerie.php The most interesting things I could see are (ot alert) Handley-Page Victor, and Fairey Swordfish. Both two fine old companies, that should be on my list of classic mfctr's, but can't get closer to OT than that. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 11:46:46 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: more old kits, Part 1 Message-ID: Ross wrote: >I have emailed Clay requesting the " 1913 Deperdussin, 1:72," Neil, could you send to Ross an Elk on my behalf? I hate when someone is online at the right time! D. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:00:15 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: site update: 3 models Message-ID: Sean, heretically typed: >Try 1:48. ;) :-0~~~~~ D. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:09:34 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Perry's Lohner Message-ID: >And in the guise of giving Roll a plug, but in reality just tooting my own >horn, check out Roll Models site under the Full Build Reviews - Airplanes >and give my Lohner B.II a squizzy. Astounding! Too much to see in just a squizzy. i saved the page and I will read it thoroughly later today. Hey Martín, como va tu Lohner? Supongo que quedará como éste, no? ;-) D. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:07:50 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Thanks Diego Message-ID: Richard! -the SIGN fokker E.V- >The kit is very nice, I compared the fuselege with the datafile drawings >and >the fuselege is about a scale foot short in the engine area. Anyone else >notice this? I started it long ago and planned to add some styrene thickness to the front end of the fuselage, behind the cowl. It's not hard to do, but it's much easier to buy the Roden kit which is much better to build anyway and it's not so expensive at all. Damn! I even thinned the damned fuselage walls and all.... another one for the garbage bin. BTW, compared with all tha drawings I have, the SIGN wing is too thin and the cutout over the cockpit has the worng shape. >We will have about another 10 weeks of Winter yet, but we are gaining >sunlight at a rather rapid rate. I still have flies to tie for Summer >fishing. Cabin fever, what cabin fever? True, here the sun starts to rise a bit later each day. I used to wake up in daylight just a week before and now it's pretty dark. I'm very tired of this summer... yesterday we had 38°C and lots of humidity. Maybe the Aussies are used to this, but to me it get in my nerves! D. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 23:17:00 +1100 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. Message-ID: <006c01c2c922$a8abd620$287032d2@default> Ross and Shane wonder... >I will have to dig into this. But I like the Se5a's used by the RAAF in >the early 20's. Pretty certain they had Hisso's Hi All; The easiest way to tell is to look at the exhaust manifold and the radiators. The Viper engined Se5a's had a different shape manifold cover attached to the exhaust pipe than did the Hisso. Also the radiator for the Viper is larger. The prop may be different too. I would have thought they may have been Vipers, given this was the later variant. and while I'm here.... So Roden have done some cockpit variations too...Is it the bulged or the cutout? If they are doing the US version, it would be bulged but they should also have an air intake behind the Vickers gun too. An interesting variant for the US ones is that many were flown without the cowling covers to help with engine cooling (for those flown in the hotter climates anyway ie: Texas). For night fighters there are a number of possible variants - flare holders, night shrouds on the exhaust are the main features... All these features would be nice but they still haven't announced a releases of the equally important Se5?...Think of all the modelers who would stumble over themselves to build Ball's machine.....or even BB's with the spinner - all in all a far more important kit to release than any old accurate Nieuport ;-) I want one! (stamps foot) All the Best Neil E (Emuberg) I bet they don't do one..... { :- ( ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 05:43:13 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Cc: mtngoat01@juno.com Subject: Re: more old kits, Part 1 Message-ID: <20030131.054314.2316.2.mtngoat01@juno.com> Nick, Got it. I have you down for the Lone Star Nieuport 11, the Eduard Morane, and you are next in line for the Blue Max Pfalz and Nieuport 11. Clay On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 02:01:39 -0500 (EST) "Nikboy" writes: > Clay, > I am also interested in this model from part 1. > > Nieuport 11 "Bebe", 1:48, Lone Star Models, $6.00 > > Nick Vanmatre > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:44:37 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Thanks Diego Message-ID: Diego says: >I'm very tired of this >summer... yesterday we had 38°C and lots of humidity. Maybe the >Aussies >are >used to this, but to me it get in my nerves! Some things you get used to, some not. This summer I twice spent time at mines where daytime temps went over 50C, not fit for humans, even Australian ones IMO. Brisbane OTOH is somehow much easier to take this year. It may be the airconditioner now fitted in my modelling room has a little to do with it ;-) Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 23:57:32 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Thanks Diego Message-ID: <3E3A72BC.CE8267ED@tac.com.au> Shane Weier wrote: > Some things you get used to, some not. This summer I twice spent time at > mines where daytime temps went over 50C, not fit for humans, even Australian > ones IMO. > > Brisbane OTOH is somehow much easier to take this year. It may be the > airconditioner now fitted in my modelling room has a little to do with it > ;-) Shane, Nice to the workers getting some comfort ;-) StY - recovering from a 40+C Birthday ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 05:57:49 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: old kits Message-ID: <20030131.055749.2316.4.mtngoat01@juno.com> rofl On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 04:47:03 -0500 (EST) "Shane Weier" writes: > Neil > > > > :-ŝ > > > >Gosh, I'm impressed, where did you find that one? > > Cropped from the centre of a picture of Matt > > Shane ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 06:12:16 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: more old kits, Part 1 Message-ID: <20030131.061216.2316.9.mtngoat01@juno.com> Gee Neil. I can't believe how much history you guys know. I never even heard of a Deperdussin, or 12-Squared, until I found this little gem. Makes me sort of wish I had claimed it for myself... -Clay On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 03:45:13 -0500 (EST) Crawford Neil writes: > > It won't be the same as the 12-squared kit, that is for a 1913 > Gordon-Bennnet > racer. I guess the Australian one was a Deperdussin TT or similar > 2-seater. > Not that it matters, a single seat Dep racer is one of the coolest > machines > ever built, and a world speed record holder, I believe the > 12-squared kit > is good. Another wild thing about the Dep racer is the engine, an > 160hp > twin row rotary, can't remember exactly but I think it was a 2-row > LeRhone, > imagine flying around with a thing like that a few feet in front of > you! > /Neil C. > > > > > One of our first aircraft here and there is one in the Australian > War > > Memorial. > > > > Cheers > > > > Ross > > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:19:27 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: more old kits, Part 1 Message-ID: Thanks Clay, But after you've been around here for a while, you'll notice that I only speak coherently about Spads and Deperdussins, and half the time I'm wrong about them too! Certainly you should have nicked the Dep, Diego is hopping mad, he has a terrible ClassicPlanes kit that he's trying to build, I'm sitting happy having already done that! OTOH you got a Meikraft Caproni bomber for $3, that is a tale to tell your grandchildren! /Neil C. > Gee Neil. I can't believe how much history you guys know. I never even > heard of a Deperdussin, or 12-Squared, until I found this little gem. > Makes me sort of wish I had claimed it for myself... > -Clay > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 06:37:35 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Old Kits Part 1 Update Message-ID: <20030131.063736.3972.1.mtngoat01@juno.com> Here is the latest list update, Part 1 (vac). Part 2 (resin) next. --Clay [ ] => available [x] => spoken for Vac Kits [ ] Gotha GIV, 1:72, Rare Plane Vacforms, $1.50 [ ] Gotha GIV, 1:72, Rare Plane Vacforms, $1.50 [x] Sopwith 7F1 Snipe, 1:48, Combat Models (or By-Planes), $3.00 (Ken Zelnick) [ ] Sopwith 7F1 Snipe, 1:48, By-Planes, $3.00 [x] Sopwith Swallow, 1:48, Tom's Modelworks, $3.00 (Ken Zelnick) [x] Albatros DV, 1:48, Tom's Modelworks, $5.00 (Chris Friedenbach) [x] LFG Roland C.II Walfisch, 1:48, Sierra Scale Models, $3.00 (Ken Zelnick) [x] LFG Roland D.II Haifisch, 1:48, Sierra Scale Models, $3.00 (Myles Miller) [ ] Aviatik-Berg C.1, 1:48, Sierra Scale Models, $5.00 [ ] Phonix C.1, 1:48, Sierra Scale Models, $5.00 (tentative Myles Miller) [x] Pfalz E-1 (Resin fuselage), 1:48, Lone Star Models, $7.50 (Mack Harris) [x] Nieuport 11 "Bebe", 1:48, Lone Star Models, $6.00 (Nick Vanmatre) [x] Felixstowe F2a (Vac, Resin, metal and photo-etch parts, decals), 1:48, Lone Star Models, $25.00 (Chris Friedenbach) [x] Bleriot XI-2 "Artillerie", 1:72, Blue Rider, $5.00 (Pedro Soares) [ ] Hanriot HD-1, 1:48, Vintage Aero Models, $3.50 [x] D.F.W. B-1, 1:72, Formaplane, $2.50 (Alberto Casirati) [ ] Vickers Vimy Commercial, 1:144, Air Craft Models, $1.50 [x] Siemens Schuckert D.III, 1:48, Koster Aero Enterprises, $2.50 (Chris Friedenbach) [ ] Siemens Schuckert D.III, 1:48, Koster Aero Enterprises, $2.50 (tentative, Chris Friedenbach) [x] Sopwith Triplane, 1:48, Koster Aero Enterprises, $2.50 (Chris Friedenbach) [ ] Sopwith Triplane, 1:48, Koster Aero Enterprises, $2.50 (tentative, Chris Friedenbach) ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 06:39:09 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Old Kits Part 2 Update Message-ID: <20030131.063909.3972.2.mtngoat01@juno.com> Part 2. [ ] => available [x] => spoken for Resin Kits [ ] Vickers Vimy Mk IV, 1:72, Novo Air Kits, $7.50 [x] Junkers J-9/D-1, 1:48, Blue Max, $10.00 (Mack Harris) [ ] Pfalz D.XII, 1:48, Blue Max, $5.00 (tentative, Myles Miller/Nick Vanmatre) [ ] Nieuport 11 "Bebe", 1:48, Blue Max, $3.00 (tentative, Myles Miller/Nick Vanmatre) [x] Caproni Ca.3, 1:72, Meikraft, $3.00 (Clay Fulcher) [x] DeHaviland DH-5, 1:48, Lone Star Models, $10.00 (Brad Gossen) [ ] Avia B.21, 1:72, KP Plastikovy Model, $2.50 [x] Albatros C.III, 1:48, Eduard, $14.00 (Bob Pearson) [x] Morane Saulnier N, 1:48, Eduard, $11.25 (Nick Vanmatre) [ ] Morane Saulnier L, 1:48, Eduard, $10.00 [ ] Albatros D.V, 1:48, Eduard, $11.50 [x] Siemens-Schuckert D.III, 1:48, Eduard, $5.00 (Brent Theobald) [x] Siemens-Schuckert D.III, 1:48, Eduard, $7.50 (Ken Zelnick) [x] Hansa Brandenburg D.I, 1:48, Eduard, $5.00 (Brent Theobald) [x] Fokker E.III Eindecker, 1:48, Eduard, $8.00 (Brent Theobald) [x] DFW-28 Floh, 1:48, Eduard, $8.00 ("Never Fighting Ladies" Series) (Myles Miller) [x] Fokker D.VII, 1:48, DML, $6.00 (Mack Harris) [x] Fokker D.VIII, 1:48, DML, $9.00 (Myles Miller) [ ] "Austro-Hungarian" Albatros (looks like a D.V but doesn't say), 1:48, Glencoe, $3.00 [ ] Albatros D.III (Werner Voss's on cover), 1:48, Glencoe, $3.00 [x] Avro 504K, 1:48, Smer, $1.50 (Ken Zelnick) [x] Salmson A-2, 1:48, Merlin Models, $3.00 (Ken Zelnick) [x] Sopwith Camel, 1:48, Monogram, $1.50 (Ken Zelnick) [x] MkA Whippet Medium Tank, 1:35, Emhar, $9.00 (Bob Pearson) [x] Fiat 3000 mod. 21 Ia Tank, 1:35, Tauro Models, $5.50 (John Biskupski) [x] 1913 Deperdussin, 1:72, 12-Squared, $1.50 (Ross Moorhouse) ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:52:30 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Old Kits Part 1 Update Message-ID: C'mon Diego, surely these are for you! /Neil C. > Vac Kits > > [ ] Gotha GIV, 1:72, Rare Plane Vacforms, $1.50 > [ ] Gotha GIV, 1:72, Rare Plane Vacforms, $1.50 > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 15:14:04 From: "MR JAMES KYARI" To: wwi@mustang.sr.unh.edu Subject: urgent request Message-ID: <200301311411.JAA11339@mustang.sr.unh.edu> Dear sir/madam, Compliment of the day, I am JAMES KYARI, The son of late General Kubwa Kyari of the Democratic Republic of Congo. My father was a General in the Congolese Army. In his position (My father) with the office of the presidentcy during the regime of Laurent Kabila, he was assigned on a secret mission to source and acquire arms internationally in order to strengthen the Government forces against the rebels, which already had the support of Rwandan and Uganda Army. Meanwhile, he was still negotiating for the purchase of the arms, he received on the 16th January 2001 news of the assassination of Laurent Kabila which force him to call off the assignment and deposited the sum of US$12.5M, Packed in a diplomatic case in a private security company in the Hague, the Netherlands, though he registered the content as precious stones while the real content is (US12.5M) meant for the purchase of arms for the Congolese Army. My father went home for the funeral of the late president, but on his arrival he was arrested, detained and tortured, unfortunately my father suffer cardiac arrest and died on the 17th of March 2001. However,one of our numerous visits, my mother and I paid him while in prison, my father was able to reveal this secret to me and advice that i should proceed to the Netherlands to claim the money, he handed me all the relevant documents that will enable me claim the box from the security company.Already, I have made my first visit to the security company and the document entitled to clear this money is with a finance security company in Holland.On our arrival in the Netherlands few months ago, we sought for political asylum; which was granted. My mother and I are making frantic effort on the best way to handle this money. We sought advice from an attorney who advised that we must seek for a trustworthy foreign business partner whom this money could be transferred into his/her (company"s) account. This we view as the best option because our refugee status dose not permit us to operate a bank account, hence we seek your assistance and hope you could be trusted. I got your contact from the commercial section of the congolese embassy in Belgium. Meanwhile, I sincerely ask for your assistance to get this money through your account, Your share for assisting us will be 25% of the total sum, 5% will be use for upsetting all the expenses incurred in the course of concluding this venture and the remaining 70% that will be for me and my family. Also you stand to gain from any investment you might introduce us into after the conclusion of the transfer. Please keep this confidential until we finalize and get this money into your account for security reasons. This is my e-mail address you can reach me:(jameskyari1@netscape.net) Thanks and GOD bless. MR, JAMES KYARI ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:25:29 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Revell news Message-ID: <006901c2c934$9bd4eba0$0301a8c0@com1> Neil, > Here's Revells Nurnberg toy fair site, no new Fokker there except > a magic-flite one, at least not as far as I can see. > > http://www.revell.de/de/modelkits/messe/bildergalerie.php > maybe not there, but if you look on the catalogue on their standard webpage: http://www.revell.de/cgi-bin/kat/katalog.pl?cmd=preview&KOSCHL=01&lang=de&ka t=modell&page=1 which has just been updated, you find a 72 scale Dr I on the first page. If you ckilck on it, you find - it will come out in 9/03 - it does not say anything like "new molds" or whatever, but - it says something about 30 parts - the old kit, which I just checked, has at best 27 only. So there´s some hope - not that we really need a new Dr I, but IF it is new, there´s a chance that they extend the series... Still, after last years D VII and SE 5 I remain somewhat sceptical, but we´ll see... Oh and by the way: Revell HAS some interesting news - the 1/72 scale type VII U boat from the sequel being a real hammer IMHO. There´s also some nice new 72 scale tanks (the Biber bridgelayer in particular) and aircraft, but nothing more OT. Volker ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4966 **********************