WWI Digest 4965 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: New Books by "Steven Perry" 2) Re: New Books by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 3) Getting rid of models by "Matt Bittner" 4) Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 5) Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. by "Shane Weier" 6) Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. by "Michael Kendix" 7) Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. by "Shane Weier" 8) Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 9) Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. by "Shane Weier" 10) Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 11) Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. by "Shane Weier" 12) Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 13) Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. by "Shane Weier" 14) Re: Buzzards? by "Stuart L. Malone" 15) more old kits, Part 1 by Clay W Fulcher 16) more old kits--part 2. by Clay W Fulcher 17) Re: Buzzards? by Zulis@aol.com 18) Re: more old kits, Part 1 by "Nikboy" 19) Re: more old kits, Part 1 by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 20) Re: old kits by Crawford Neil 21) Re: New Books by Crawford Neil 22) Re: more old kits, Part 1 by Crawford Neil 23) Re: more old kits, Part 1 by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 24) Re: more old kits, Part 1 by Crawford Neil 25) Re: more old kits, Part 1 by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 26) Re: more old kits, Part 1 by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:13:16 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: New Books Message-ID: <005501c2c8c5$efeb8f60$65a8a8c0@tampabay.rr.com> > Hello Everyone, > A while back, Steve Perry won a contest with Roll Models. He donated his prize to the List Library in the form of books. The two books are on the Fokker D.VII, Anthologies 2 and 3. I want to thank Steve Perry on behalf of the Library for his generous gift. Also, a big thanks to Brent Theobald and John Roll for making it happen. > > ~Rick~ > List Librarian > Bill Bacon Memorial Library I'd forgotten about that. I asked Brent to choose what they sent the library and I see he has chosen wisely ... and generously on his and John's part too. The books should get a lot of use. And in the guise of giving Roll a plug, but in reality just tooting my own horn, check out Roll Models site under the Full Build Reviews - Airplanes and give my Lohner B.II a squizzy. sp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:20:20 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: New Books Message-ID: <000f01c2c8c6$ebfbc220$314e2dcb@future> Very very nice build there Steven. Even nicer than the one of this kit that was in SAMi last year. Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Steven Perry Sent: Friday, 31 January 2003 12:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: New Books > Hello Everyone, > A while back, Steve Perry won a contest with Roll Models. He donated his prize to the List Library in the form of books. The two books are on the Fokker D.VII, Anthologies 2 and 3. I want to thank Steve Perry on behalf of the Library for his generous gift. Also, a big thanks to Brent Theobald and John Roll for making it happen. > > ~Rick~ > List Librarian > Bill Bacon Memorial Library I'd forgotten about that. I asked Brent to choose what they sent the library and I see he has chosen wisely ... and generously on his and John's part too. The books should get a lot of use. And in the guise of giving Roll a plug, but in reality just tooting my own horn, check out Roll Models site under the Full Build Reviews - Airplanes and give my Lohner B.II a squizzy. sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:26:15 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Getting rid of models Message-ID: I received a request from a gentleman that is forced to get out of the hobby. First I past his introductory remark: "Dear Matt........found your email address on the WW1 modelers website so am writing to see if you can help me. I have been making WW1 model aircraft for quite some time but my eyes have gotten so bad I can no longer do much of anything. I have a number of items that I would like to sell so if you know any of the guys who might be interested please write and let me know. It would be deeply appreciated. My email address is: hoot@wbia.net" Now for the loot: "2 complete kits never opened, they are, Hobbycraft Fokker DR1 in 1/28 scale Hobbycraft Billy Bishop Nieuport 17 in 1/32 scale 5 Tweezers (curved and straight) 4 Dental picks 1 Hobby knife 1 metal file 5 hemostats of various sizes 30 bottles of enamel and acrylic paints in wide variety of colors Will sell everything for $25 plus shipping which is a great buy. Will also throw in some odds and ends which I cannot use. If you have any questions please get in touch with me." Please responsd to him *direct*, as he's not on the list. His email addy is again: hoot@wbia.net. His name is Sol Gibson. Thanks!! This sounds like an excellent starter kit for someone just getting into the hobby. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:37:45 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. Message-ID: <002c01c2c8d1$bc37f8a0$314e2dcb@future> The spokes are there in the wheel covers of this kit. If you hold the wheel up to a light at a certain angle and use a magnifying glass you will see them. They are just very faint. Cheers Ross who can't get his house boy to come back. StE could do this job for me. ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:45:56 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. Message-ID: Ross >The spokes are there in the wheel covers of this kit. If you hold the >wheel up to a light at a certain angle and use a magnifying glass you >will see them. They are just very faint. Good, so they should be. And that means Roden has done a great job, whatever Earl might have thought. >Ross who can't get his house boy to come back. StE could do this job for >me. ;-) No, you chase yuor own houseboy. Me, if I could afford slaves, I'd chase housegirls. Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 03:09:04 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. Message-ID: >From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" >The spokes are there in the wheel covers of this kit. If you hold the >wheel up to a light at a certain angle and use a magnifying glass you >will see them. They are just very faint. Ross: I noticed this too - excellent detail that I'll have to be careful not to remove when I'm building. The Lewis gn is Roden/Toko's usual nice detail, excellent cockpit detail - instrument panel, shelf thing in front of instrument panel, nice looking control stick, foot rudder. Also has the telescope/site thing, partial Vickers to stick in te top of the fuselage, separate headrest. The kit has other unused bits - set of horizontal tail parts and bombs. Very nice. Michael _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:17:54 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. Message-ID: Michael says: >The kit has other unused bits - set of horizontal tail >parts and bombs. Very nice. It is, it IS...... Oooooh, ho will be the first to finish one? This is *much* more exciting than worrying about SPAD wingtips.... Cooler colour schemes for one thing. Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:20:27 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. Message-ID: <003c01c2c8d7$b39426f0$314e2dcb@future> Compare the unused kit cockpit parts with the profiles of the Se5as on Cams AFC site. I think with part next to no.6 you can build the AFC Se5a's with the lower cut cockpit cut out. Unless I am mistaken that the Se5a's on Cams site are Hispo engine ones? Cheers Ross "I noticed this too - excellent detail that I'll have to be careful not to remove when I'm building. The Lewis gn is Roden/Toko's usual nice detail, excellent cockpit detail - instrument panel, shelf thing in front of instrument panel, nice looking control stick, foot rudder. Also has the telescope/site thing, partial Vickers to stick in te top of the fuselage, separate headrest. The kit has other unused bits - set of horizontal tail parts and bombs. Very nice. Michael" _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:27:02 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. Message-ID: Ross >Compare the unused kit cockpit parts with the profiles of the Se5as on >Cams AFC site. I think with part next to no.6 you can build the AFC >Se5a's with the lower cut cockpit cut out. Unless I am mistaken that the >Se5a's on Cams site are Hispo engine ones? IIRC the 2AFC ones were Viper powered. Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 15:20:47 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. Message-ID: <003f01c2c8e0$21438da0$314e2dcb@future> I will have to dig into this. But I like the Se5a's used by the RAAF in the early 20's. Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Shane Weier Sent: Friday, 31 January 2003 2:28 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. Ross >Compare the unused kit cockpit parts with the profiles of the Se5as on >Cams AFC site. I think with part next to no.6 you can build the AFC >Se5a's with the lower cut cockpit cut out. Unless I am mistaken that the >Se5a's on Cams site are Hispo engine ones? IIRC the 2AFC ones were Viper powered. Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:25:22 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. Message-ID: Ross >I will have to dig into this. But I like the Se5a's used by the RAAF in >the early 20's. Pretty certain they had Hisso's No PC.10 though :-( Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 15:30:08 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. Message-ID: <004101c2c8e1$6fa05310$314e2dcb@future> 20's RAAF ES5a, silver with black nose. Very smart indeed. At least we know that the Hisso version is on the drawing board at Roden. Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Shane Weier Sent: Friday, 31 January 2003 3:26 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. Ross >I will have to dig into this. But I like the Se5a's used by the RAAF in >the early 20's. Pretty certain they had Hisso's No PC.10 though :-( Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:36:24 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Roden Se5a spoked wheels. Yes they are there. Message-ID: Ross >20's RAAF ES5a, silver with black nose. Very smart indeed. Gack. That's why the French stuff bores me. >At least we >know that the Hisso version is on the drawing board at Roden. I'd be prepared to bet it's a lot further along than that. Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:42:14 -0600 From: "Stuart L. Malone" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Buzzards? Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20030130223839.00b11e50@pop-server.kc.rr.com> Matt, Could you be thinking of the Martinsyde Elephant by Rosemont? I bought one of these when they first came out with the intent of converting it into an F3 or F4. I don't think I even opened the bag..... Stuart L. Malone At 06:13 AM 1/29/2003 -0500, you wrote: >"Does any list member know who (if anyone) produces a Martinsyde >Buzzard kit? > I dont care if it is 1/72, 1/48, injected or resin (just no >vacs)... I >need to hunt one of these down, if they exist." > >Didn't Rosemont do one years ago? I don't see it listed >currently on their site, but I thought they did one in vac. > > >Matt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:59:40 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: more old kits, Part 1 Message-ID: <20030130.215941.2732.0.mtngoat01@juno.com> I made it to the shop again today to check for more bargains. I picked up an additional 20 kits. I have to post these in two parts as the list is now too large to squeeze through the system. Here is the vac part of the updated list. The injection mold part of the list will come in the next post. A few are marked "tentative" since these individuals inquired about them before I picked them up today. Let me know if you would like any of these, at what I paid plus shipping. The last four Koster vac kits were all together in a box for $10.00. All of the white metal, photo-etch, vac components, instructions and decals are complete for these.--Clay [ ] => available [x] => spoken for Vac Kits [ ] Gotha GIV, 1:72, Rare Plane Vacforms, $1.50 [ ] Gotha GIV, 1:72, Rare Plane Vacforms, $1.50 [x] Sopwith 7F1 Snipe, 1:48, Combat Models (or By-Planes), $3.00 (Ken Zelnick) [ ] Sopwith 7F1 Snipe, 1:48, By-Planes, $3.00 [x] Sopwith Swallow, 1:48, Tom's Modelworks, $3.00 (Ken Zelnick) [ ] Albatros DV, 1:48, Tom's Modelworks, $5.00 [x] LFG Roland C.II Walfisch, 1:48, Sierra Scale Models, $3.00 (Ken Zelnick) [x] LFG Roland D.II Haifisch, 1:48, Sierra Scale Models, $3.00 (Myles Miller) [ ] Aviatik-Berg C.1, 1:48, Sierra Scale Models, $5.00 [ ] Phonix C.1, 1:48, Sierra Scale Models, $5.00 (tentative Myles Miller) [ ] Pfalz E-1 (Resin fuselage), 1:48, Lone Star Models, $7.50 [ ] Nieuport 11 "Bebe", 1:48, Lone Star Models, $6.00 [ ] Felixstowe F2a (Vac, Resin, metal and photo-etch parts, decals), 1:48, Lone Star Models, $25.00 [ ] Bleriot XI-2 "Artillerie", 1:72, Blue Rider, $5.00 [ ] Hanriot HD-1, 1:48, Vintage Aero Models, $3.50 [ ] D.F.W. B-1, 1:72, Formaplane, $2.50 (tentative Alberto Casirati) [ ] Vickers Vimy Commercial, 1:144, Air Craft Models, $1.50 [ ] Siemens Schuckert D.III, 1:48, Koster Aero Enterprises, $2.50 [ ] Siemens Schuckert D.III, 1:48, Koster Aero Enterprises, $2.50 [ ] Sopwith Triplane, 1:48, Koster Aero Enterprises, $2.50 [ ] Sopwith Triplane, 1:48, Koster Aero Enterprises, $2.50 ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:05:03 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: more old kits--part 2. Message-ID: <20030130.220503.2732.1.mtngoat01@juno.com> Here is the injection mold part of the updated list. A few are marked "tentative" since these individuals inquired about them before I picked them up today. --Clay [ ] => available [x] => spoken for Resin Kits [ ] Vickers Vimy Mk IV, 1:72, Novo Air Kits, $7.50 [x] Junkers J-9/D-1, 1:48, Blue Max, $10.00 (Mack Harris) [ ] Pfalz D.XII, 1:48, Blue Max, $5.00 (tentative, Myles Miller) [ ] Nieuport 11 "Bebe", 1:48, Blue Max, $3.00 (tentative, Myles Miller) [x] Caproni Ca.3, 1:72, Meikraft, $3.00 (Clay Fulcher) [x] DeHaviland DH-5, 1:48, Lone Star Models, $10.00 (Brad Gossen) [ ] Avia B.21, 1:72, KP Plastikovy Model, $2.50 [x] Albatros C.III, 1:48, Eduard, $14.00 (Bob Pearson) [ ] Morane Saulnier N, 1:48, Eduard, $11.25 [ ] Morane Saulnier L, 1:48, Eduard, $10.00 [ ] Albatros D.V, 1:48, Eduard, $11.50 [x] Siemens-Schuckert D.III, 1:48, Eduard, $5.00 (Brent Theobald) [ ] Siemens-Schuckert D.III, 1:48, Eduard, $7.50 (tentative Ken Zelnick) [x] Hansa Brandenburg D.I, 1:48, Eduard, $5.00 (Brent Theobald) [x] Fokker E.III Eindecker, 1:48, Eduard, $8.00 (Brent Theobald) [x] DFW-28 Floh, 1:48, Eduard, $8.00 ("Never Fighting Ladies" Series) (Myles Miller) [x] Fokker D.VII, 1:48, DML, $6.00 (Mack Harris) [x] Fokker D.VIII, 1:48, DML, $9.00 (Myles Miller) [ ] "Austro-Hungarian" Albatros (looks like a D.V but doesn't say), 1:48, Glencoe, $3.00 [ ] Albatros D.III (Werner Voss's on cover), 1:48, Glencoe, $3.00 [x] Avro 504K, 1:48, Smer, $1.50 (Ken Zelnick) [x] Salmson A-2, 1:48, Merlin Models, $3.00 (Ken Zelnick) [x] Sopwith Camel, 1:48, Monogram, $1.50 (Ken Zelnick) [x] MkA Whippet Medium Tank, 1:35, Emhar, $9.00 (Bob Pearson) [x] Fiat 3000 mod. 21 Ia Tank, 1:35, Tauro Models, $5.50 (John Biskupski) [ ] 1913 Deperdussin, 1:72, 12-Squared, $1.50 ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 00:20:31 -0500 From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Buzzards? Message-ID: <5AEEBDC7.18D974DC.000121E7@aol.com> Many thanks to all those who responded to my Buzzard question. I have placed an order for one of the Czechmasters kits (and we even have a backup plan) so I think we are all fixed up now. I will pick up a Jaguar engine from one of the many cheap Fairey Flycatcher kits on ebay, and with any luck I will end up with an ADC-1, as flown by the latvians between the wars. ("between the wars" may sound ot, but state-of-the-art WWI planes became the staple of small air forces such as Latvia's between the wars). All the best, Dave Z (Dave #13) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:06:25 -0800 From: "Nikboy" To: Subject: Re: more old kits, Part 1 Message-ID: <003e01c2c8f7$44db5f60$5ed50644@sd.cox.net> Clay, I am also interested in this model from part 1. Nieuport 11 "Bebe", 1:48, Lone Star Models, $6.00 Nick Vanmatre ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 18:08:25 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: more old kits, Part 1 Message-ID: <004e01c2c8f7$8c23d0f0$314e2dcb@future> I have emailed Clay requesting the " 1913 Deperdussin, 1:72," Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Nikboy Sent: Friday, 31 January 2003 6:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: more old kits, Part 1 Clay, I am also interested in this model from part 1. Nieuport 11 "Bebe", 1:48, Lone Star Models, $6.00 Nick Vanmatre ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:49:35 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: old kits Message-ID: > Don't get too enthusiastic. Neil promised to send me an elk > but I think it's > lost in the post > > Shane > I think it's Lost in France /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:21:58 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: New Books Message-ID: > > And in the guise of giving Roll a plug, but in reality just > tooting my own > horn, check out Roll Models site under the Full Build Reviews > - Airplanes > and give my Lohner B.II a squizzy. > > sp > It's gorgeous Steve, it makes me want to build something Austrian! /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:27:52 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: more old kits, Part 1 Message-ID: Good man! Nobody can ever have enough Deperdussins:-) /Neil C. > > I have emailed Clay requesting the " 1913 Deperdussin, 1:72," > > Cheers > > Ross ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:34:02 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: more old kits, Part 1 Message-ID: <005f01c2c903$81fafe30$314e2dcb@future> One of our first aircraft here and there is one in the Australian War Memorial. Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Crawford Neil Sent: Friday, 31 January 2003 7:31 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: more old kits, Part 1 Good man! Nobody can ever have enough Deperdussins:-) /Neil C. > > I have emailed Clay requesting the " 1913 Deperdussin, 1:72," > > Cheers > > Ross ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:42:29 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: more old kits, Part 1 Message-ID: It won't be the same as the 12-squared kit, that is for a 1913 Gordon-Bennnet racer. I guess the Australian one was a Deperdussin TT or similar 2-seater. Not that it matters, a single seat Dep racer is one of the coolest machines ever built, and a world speed record holder, I believe the 12-squared kit is good. Another wild thing about the Dep racer is the engine, an 160hp twin row rotary, can't remember exactly but I think it was a 2-row LeRhone, imagine flying around with a thing like that a few feet in front of you! /Neil C. > > One of our first aircraft here and there is one in the Australian War > Memorial. > > Cheers > > Ross > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 20:02:52 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: more old kits, Part 1 Message-ID: <000001c2c907$8c679d70$314e2dcb@future> Hi mate, Thank you for setting me straight. I am on a steep learning curve when it comes to pre-WWI planes. I just opened up Munson's Pioneer Aircraft to see if this plane is in there and there it is. Wow so modern looking. I like it. Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Crawford Neil Sent: Friday, 31 January 2003 7:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: more old kits, Part 1 It won't be the same as the 12-squared kit, that is for a 1913 Gordon-Bennnet racer. I guess the Australian one was a Deperdussin TT or similar 2-seater. Not that it matters, a single seat Dep racer is one of the coolest machines ever built, and a world speed record holder, I believe the 12-squared kit is good. Another wild thing about the Dep racer is the engine, an 160hp twin row rotary, can't remember exactly but I think it was a 2-row LeRhone, imagine flying around with a thing like that a few feet in front of you! /Neil C. > > One of our first aircraft here and there is one in the Australian War > Memorial. > > Cheers > > Ross > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 20:06:00 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: more old kits, Part 1 Message-ID: <000101c2c907$f9664b60$314e2dcb@future> This was to go off list. My mistake. :-( Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Ross & Wendy Moorhouse Sent: Friday, 31 January 2003 8:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: more old kits, Part 1 Hi mate, Thank you for setting me straight. I am on a steep learning curve when it comes to pre-WWI planes. I just opened up Munson's Pioneer Aircraft to see if this plane is in there and there it is. Wow so modern looking. I like it. Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Crawford Neil Sent: Friday, 31 January 2003 7:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: more old kits, Part 1 It won't be the same as the 12-squared kit, that is for a 1913 Gordon-Bennnet racer. I guess the Australian one was a Deperdussin TT or similar 2-seater. Not that it matters, a single seat Dep racer is one of the coolest machines ever built, and a world speed record holder, I believe the 12-squared kit is good. Another wild thing about the Dep racer is the engine, an 160hp twin row rotary, can't remember exactly but I think it was a 2-row LeRhone, imagine flying around with a thing like that a few feet in front of you! /Neil C. > > One of our first aircraft here and there is one in the Australian War > Memorial. > > Cheers > > Ross > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4965 **********************