WWI Digest 4964 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: old kits by "Shane Weier" 2) Re: old kits by "Shane Weier" 3) Re: old kits by "Shane Weier" 4) Re: site update: 3 models by Sean Brian Kirby 5) Re: site update: 3 models by dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com 6) Re: old kits by Sean Brian Kirby 7) Re: old kits by Sean Brian Kirby 8) Re: old kits by Sean Brian Kirby 9) Re: site update: 3 models by "Shane Weier" 10) re:_[WWI]_The_Perfect_Solution_to_the_Voß_Conundrum by Sean Brian Kirby 11) RE: Kit Distribution; Was New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell by "Shane Weier" 12) Re: Modeller added to site by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 13) RE: Kit Distribution; Was New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell by Sean Brian Kirby 14) Re: old kits by "Shane Weier" 15) Re: Roden's SE5a versions by "sharon alvarado" 16) RE: Kit Distribution; Was New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell by "Shane Weier" 17) RE: Kit Distribution; Was New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 18) Junkers J.I and JaPo Berg book by "Bob Pearson" 19) RE: Kit Distribution; Was New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell by "Shane Weier" 20) WWI Modelers' Want List by RadspadMike@netscape.net 21) AoL and the MIME/html problem by Zulis@aol.com 22) Hyperscale today..... by "Shane Weier" 23) Re: Hyperscale today..... by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 24) Re: Hyperscale today..... by "Shane Weier" 25) Re: Hyperscale today..... by "Bob Pearson" 26) Phonix Colors by "Mike Muth" 27) Thanks Diego by "Richard Bilak" 28) Re: Hyperscale today..... by "Shane Weier" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:54:36 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: old kits Message-ID: Neil writes: > > >about Aviatiks >those awful colour-schemes spoil >everything, and how could I write that without upsetting Shane? Ha, it's the unusual colour schemes that make them worth building. >Anyway I was busy Abouttime. Will there be photos? >PS. BTW lovely model Shane! Thanks Neil, and thanks too to all the other listees who complimented me on the Aviatik or it's paintjob . I miss it :-( Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:57:17 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: old kits Message-ID: Neil says: > > No worries, I guess that Shane can > > take with a smile anything except a new kit release of any of > > the subjects he is scratchbuilding :-) > >Which all the rest of us take with a smile! Darn it, I can never find that tongue poking emoticon when I want it. Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:02:56 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: old kits Message-ID: Nick says: >I promise I will not send a msg every time I glue on one piece to > >my....elk. ROTFL Well, that's certainly a new way to introduce yourself (okay, I know it wasn't your first message but we're all still finding out about you!) Welcome from down under mate. >BTW, I like elk meat; I am not a vegan. Send away! Don't get too enthusiastic. Neil promised to send me an elk but I think it's lost in the post Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:03:22 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: site update: 3 models Message-ID: <20030130220322.55649.qmail@web14803.mail.yahoo.com> --- Diego Fernetti wrote: > Maybe it's because I work in 1/72, but I never > managed to get good results > using these PE "spiders". I lost/broke/smashed Three > while trying to use on > in the Nieuport 11 project, but never got it quite > good to the spider to the > disc joint. > Even thought to make it without the magazine, but > looks odd. Try 1:48. ;) Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:05:02 +0000 From: dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: site update: 3 models Message-ID: <1043964302.3e39a18e2abb0@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Ross & Wendy Moorhouse : > http://www.wwi-models.org/news.html > > Cheers & welcome to the list from a not so hot Sydeny today. It was over > 110 old scale degrees here yesterday. I gave my house boy the day off. > Bah! It was minus 4 Celcius here to day. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:05:57 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: old kits Message-ID: <20030130220557.67195.qmail@web14805.mail.yahoo.com> --- Shane Weier wrote: > Thanks Neil, and thanks too to all the other listees > who complimented me on > the Aviatik or it's paintjob . I miss it :-( The compliments go without saying. And - you'll have another one. :) Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:06:47 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: old kits Message-ID: <20030130220647.11740.qmail@web14807.mail.yahoo.com> --- Shane Weier wrote: > Darn it, I can never find that tongue poking > emoticon when I want it. :p Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:07:58 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: old kits Message-ID: <20030130220758.58230.qmail@web14809.mail.yahoo.com> --- Shane Weier wrote: > Don't get too enthusiastic. Neil promised to send me > an elk but I think it's > lost in the post Bet that smells nice... Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:08:16 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: site update: 3 models Message-ID: Ross says: >Cheers & welcome to the list from a not so hot Sydeny today. It was over >110 old scale degrees here yesterday. I gave my house boy the day off. Yeah, don'tcha love it when the weather starts to cool down like that... Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:15:10 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: re:_[WWI]_The_Perfect_Solution_to_the_Voß_Conundrum Message-ID: <20030130221510.95967.qmail@web14802.mail.yahoo.com> --- Grzegorz Mazurowski wrote: > Sean! > Here is similar solution, very successfully applied > !!! > http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Hausler/CP/index.html > (and look for Albatros D.I diorama :-) > BTW, good job, Volker! > Cheers! > G. Yeah, just like that! And, how cool... Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:17:26 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Kit Distribution; Was New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell Message-ID: Sean explains >Down in Laurel, >Maryland, though, there's this nice little shop that >at this moment might have a couple P-39 Profis, a >Nie.11 in both forms, an Albatros D.V, two different >Taifuns, a Nieuport 21... they have a decent amount of >Eduard. To my mind, if you have a shop and know >Eduard, you stock it. It's good, interesting, I have no idea how big Laurel is, but that sounds more promising than many. I'm *very* lucky, in so far as in Brisbane (population including the conurbation North South and West of around 1.5M) there are FOUR shops that carry both Eduard and Roden. All of them have quite a lot of Eduard but Roden is a bit more hit and miss (the kits arrive here in considerable bulk and if you don't get in quickly then you miss out) I don't quite know which came first, the modellers or available WW1 models, but we seem to have a higher proportion of WW1'ophiles than most places Can only get Eagle Strike Loz and Eduard brass in town, but that's okay. I still feel priveledged to have 4 shops within 20min drive of my home. Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:19:46 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Modeller added to site Message-ID: <002201c2c8ad$b56b4a00$314e2dcb@future> Well Mr Eddy your Pfalz inspired mine. And yours is very well done. Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of NEIL EDDY Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2003 10:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Modeller added to site >Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:21:49 >+0000 >From: "Diego Fernetti" >To: wwi@wwi-models.org >Subject: >Message-ID: >Well done Ross! >Now you are bound to modify the kit >cowl to swo up this nice detailed >engine. >You and that bloke Eddy must have >some sort of fixation on detailing >engines. Ces Aussies sont fous! >D. Hey! I resemble that remark!! For me a well done engine really sets off the model. I do the whole engine as elements of the total paint job all appear in the visible section to one degree or another - I dunno, its a sort of holistic approach I think. My best painted engine is yet to be attached to the model it is intended for and thats another story folks.... Ross' engine is a beauty though I think - better than my Pfalz I think....... On the Pup I just have to add the serial numbers to the rudder. These are courtesy of the Secret Santa from Indianapolis - Did we ever find out who this generous Santa was? After that its the 'eggshell' top coat....and voila! Fin! All the Best Neil E (Home of the Meat Pie) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:24:41 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Kit Distribution; Was New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell Message-ID: <20030130222441.77390.qmail@web14803.mail.yahoo.com> --- Shane Weier wrote: > I have no idea how big Laurel is, but that sounds > more promising than many. Laurel ain't big. That it has some size at all may be thanks to Laurel Race Course, the thoroughbred track. > Can only get Eagle Strike Loz and Eduard brass in > town, but that's okay. I > still feel priveledged to have 4 shops within 20min > drive of my home. Eduard brass is never easily found, except through mail-order. Rosemont stocks it, but of course he will not have everything at once. I have all my Eagle Strike 4-color in both scales; need to get the 1:72 5-color stuff, and I understand I can have a sheet of 1:48 underside... Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:29:18 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: old kits Message-ID: Sean says: >:p No, this one.....centred, not hanging out the side of the mouth like some yokel ;-) :-þ Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 17:30:55 -0500 From: "sharon alvarado" To: Subject: Re: Roden's SE5a versions Message-ID: <000c01c2c8af$41e9ab60$8ab4563f@gatewayzztl6sw> >From what I can see from the posted pics of the kit parts I think the three upper fuselage deck are 1) standard, 2) bulged cockpit openings, 3) a deck for a late/post war SE5 (SE5e?) which had a scoop atop the Vickers (Marlin?) machine gun fairing for extra cooling of the machine gun receiver group. JMHO Alvie ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Roden's SE5a versions > > Quoting Shane Weier : > > > Michael > > > > >As I eagerly await the arrival of the Roden SE5a, I am wondering what > > >the > > >different versions are. I know Wolsey and Viper engines are two > > variants > > >but there is a third top fusealge variation for yet another. >What is > > >that? > > > > Mine will arrive tomorrow but my *guess* based on the small pic on > > Rodens > > site is that maybe onehas the bulged cockpit sides > > > > Possibly for post war or maybe a Skywriting one? > > > >Any 2-seater SE5a's? > > > > Not on that sprue, but the RAAF converted SE-5a's to dual control - had > > to > > be after 1921 though and therefore ot ;-) > > > > Didn't Barry do a two seater SE5a Fuselage at one point? (BTW if he did, and > anyone has one they don't need, or would swap for a Rosemont Two seat Camel > fuselage I'd be interested!) > > Dave Fleming > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:33:57 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Kit Distribution; Was New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell Message-ID: Sean >Eduard brass is never easily found, except through >mail-order. Rosemont stocks it, but of course he will >not have everything at once. I have all my Eagle >Strike 4-color in both scales; need to get the 1:72 >5-color stuff, and I understand I can have a sheet of >1:48 underside... I wish we had a Rosemont locally. Anyway, I guess being able to walk 4 blocks to a model shop in my lunchbreak and be 99% sure I can buy Eduard etched spandaus, seat belts and instruments and a selection of aircraft specific sets is quite a priveledge. Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:39:50 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: Kit Distribution; Was New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell Message-ID: <002401c2c8b0$8361cfe0$314e2dcb@future> StE wrote : "Anyway, I guess being able to walk 4 blocks to a model shop in my lunchbreak and be 99% sure I can buy Eduard etched spandaus, seat belts and instruments and a selection of aircraft specific sets is quite a priveledge." Not here is Sydney you can't. Very few shops carried Eduard P.E. let alone their WWI stuff. Cheers Ross ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:19:00 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: Junkers J.I and JaPo Berg book Message-ID: <104396676101@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com> Hi all, Just got a parcel from Lubos containing the above ... all I can say is MANOHMANOHMAN. ... the Junkers is just too cool, and the only downside to the Aviatik book is I never worked on it .. even sadder is we were discussing doing a book on Aviatik .. guess it would be redundant now. There will be reviews of both in the next IM .. due online in about 36 hours. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:48:20 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Kit Distribution; Was New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell Message-ID: Ross, >Not here is Sydney you can't. Very few shops carried Eduard P.E. let >alone their WWI stuff. That's because you can't put etched brass in cafe latte Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:08:23 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: WWI Modelers' Want List Message-ID: <37DE045B.0C9379E0.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Hi gang, I'm very happy to announce that my want listing for a Lone Star Models Lohner Type "L", 1/48 has been filled. I don't know how I would have found one otherwise. There aren't many of this sort of thing in boxes under vendors' tables at shows and I don't think the local hobby shops have ever seen a Lone Star kit. Just one more of the great benefits of belonging to the list. ;<)) Mike Kavanaugh __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:21:00 -0500 From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: AoL and the MIME/html problem Message-ID: <5120B484.3C92DE1E.000121E7@aol.com> < Ben, I got one 'clean' message and one surrounded with heiroglyphics (the HTML, I assume)There is a way, somewhat tedious, to send plain text with AOL, it involves the 'edit' tool bar, and selecting 'plain text' each time, HTH > I believe this was the case for AoL versions before 7.0, but since then "MIME" is on, full-time. I called AoL and asked about how to turn it off. They reassured me it couldnt be done but "since all email programs can read it, why would I want to?" I guess nobody who designed it was part of a newsgroup. What I do now is go to aol's actual site (aol.com), then select the "Mail" tab and sign onto THEIR website. Ironically, if you use aol's remote mail access feature, the mail is not encoded in MIME. So, I open up a mail item from someone from our list, select "REPLY", type my message, change the subject line, and send from the aol site directly. I do this if my message is likely to be long (like this one) - I usually dont bother if it is one or two-sentence reply to someone on the list... surely everyone can live with a little html jibberish in my shortest messages. Also, should you ever need to unsub/resub, this is the only way to do it - while the list engine will reluctantly accept MIME postings, it will not accept MIME commands/requests. I hope this helps, Dave Zulis (Dave #13) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:27:20 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Hyperscale today..... Message-ID: ...Rob Baumgartners IBR of the newish Hi-Tech Breguet XIV A2 I need one. Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:52:50 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Hyperscale today..... Message-ID: <1043970770.3e39bad29d780@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Shane Weier : > > ..Rob Baumgartners IBR of the newish Hi-Tech Breguet XIV A2 > > I need one. > But Shane, it's....it's....it's FRENCH! Next you'll be telling us you drink white wine!! BTW, recomendations for a 1/48th Sopwith that's an easy build? I'm just about tofinish my one and only 1/48th kit (ot late model Sopwith family, Prop) that I started about 14 years ago, got to the painting stage and abandoned - found it at my Mum & dad's and reckon it needs an hour painting and decaling to finish. I've decided it's going on top of the bookcase, so need something for the other end for balance! Dave Fleming ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:03:53 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hyperscale today..... Message-ID: 'ming, > > I need one. > > >But Shane, it's....it's....it's FRENCH! Yeah, and worse than that it only has AEF markings. But....it's ugly enough to be interesting. >Next you'll be telling us you drink white wine!! When the red runs out..... >BTW, recomendations for a 1/48th Sopwith that's an easy build? Eduard Camel ? :-) My "Sopwith" collection has been stalled so long that by the time I next build one that'll probably be it. Incidentally - Classic Airframes have been talking about releasing a series of 1/48 interwar "Sopwith" 2-seaters for some time. I notice that they now have a kit number in the "forthcoming" list from Nurnberg Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 16:13:58 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hyperscale today..... Message-ID: <104397207301@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com> Ah. . but we do know where far more interesting markings can be had ... http://www.internetmodeler.com/2002/october/galleria/Breguet.htm Bob ---------- >From: "Shane Weier" > Yeah, and worse than that it only has AEF markings. But....it's ugly enough > to be interesting. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:09:02 -0500 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Phonix Colors Message-ID: <011301c2c8be$2de4b560$2706bacc@ptdprolog.net> OK, let me try this again since I got no response last time. Anyone have a good match in either PollyScale of ModelMasters for the "Yellow-Brown" that is supposed to be the mottle color that is applied over the varnished wood on the D.I? Its Metheun reference is 5E/F7, whatever that means. tia Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:40:16 -0900 From: "Richard Bilak" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Thanks Diego Message-ID: <000101c2c88f$09622260$3d79ed18@bilak.micronet.net> Thanks D-Man for your help on the FE2b. >#2 I traded for a Sign 1/72 Fokker D.VIII awhile back. I have the same kit. Nice, huh? ;-) The kit is very nice, I compared the fuselege with the datafile drawings and the fuselege is about a scale foot short in the engine area. Anyone else notice this? >I 'll save for the winter... but you are already there! man, in Alaska you will have plenty of time to detail it! It's a good way to avoid cabin fever, I guess. We will have about another 10 weeks of Winter yet, but we are gaining sunlight at a rather rapid rate. I still have flies to tie for Summer fishing. Cabin fever, what cabin fever? Regards, Rick ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:31:01 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hyperscale today..... Message-ID: Bob says: >Ah. . but we do know where far more interesting markings can be had ... >http://www.internetmodeler.com/2002/october/galleria/Breguet.htm LOL Okay, now I have the profiles, all I need is the kit :-) Probably arrive at my favourite shop about 2004 Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4964 **********************