WWI Digest 4959 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) updates and Pedro by "Fernando" 2) Re: WWI digest 4958 by Ken Schmitt 3) Re: updates and Pedro by haywardd 4) New upload by "Matt Bittner" 5) Re: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I by "Mark Shannon" 6) Re: New upload by "Steven Perry" 7) Roden's SE5a versions by "Michael Kendix" 8) Re: Roden's SE5a versions by "Shane Weier" 9) Phonix D.I wasFlashback Aviatik Berg D.I by "Mike Muth" 10) Christmas in February by Clay W Fulcher 11) Buzzards? by Zulis@aol.com 12) Re StE : Roden 3 part wings. by Paul Thompson 13) RE: Buzzards? by Volker Haeusler 14) Books by "Sandy Adam" 15) RE: Books by Crawford Neil 16) SE5a conundrum by "Matt Bittner" 17) Re: Buzzards? by "Matt Bittner" 18) Re: New updates by "Diego Fernetti" 19) Re: 5 color lozenge data by "Diego Fernetti" 20) Re: New update by "Diego Fernetti" 21) Re: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I by "Diego Fernetti" 22) Re: Site update: Roden Albatros DIII in-progress by "Diego Fernetti" 23) Re: 5 color lozenge data by MARK MILLER 24) Re: New at the Roden Site by "Diego Fernetti" 25) Re: Site update: Model of Pfalz DIII added by "Diego Fernetti" 26) Re: YASU: IWM RE.8 pics by "Diego Fernetti" 27) Re: Site update: Model of Pfalz DIII added by Crawford Neil 28) Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. by "Diego Fernetti" 29) Re: New upload by "Diego Fernetti" 30) Re: Site update: Model of Pfalz DIII added by "Diego Fernetti" 31) Re: 5 color lozenge data by "Diego Fernetti" 32) Re: Aviatiks by Peter Mullin ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 20:24:29 -0500 From: "Fernando" To: Subject: updates and Pedro Message-ID: <005901c2c735$2c234be0$dd8d7bd8@oemcomputer> Hi ! Pedro wrought "Well done Fernando. > > Added a new Siemens Schukert model from Dan Hayward. Wow, too, Dan. Smashing prop, btw Pedro Why thank you Pedro !..as usual ....i am flattered...but you know? that guy "Hayward" ......Every time i post something .....he has to upstage me! and post something nicer, I HATE HIM!!..............(:o)...just kidding buddy ...but it is nicer ! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:39:50 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Re: WWI digest 4958 Message-ID: this is good. > Yours is slower because the Australia Post people in Sydney are no doubt > sitting in a cafe drinking latte. i am still larfing... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:14:34 -0500 From: haywardd To: Subject: Re: updates and Pedro Message-ID: Hey Fern- Just remember that I was happily done with model planes until YOU got me going again. It's all your fault! Dan > From: "Fernando" > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 20:16:01 -0500 (EST) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] updates and Pedro > > Hi ! > Pedro wrought > > > "Well done Fernando. > >> >> Added a new Siemens Schukert model from Dan Hayward. > > Wow, too, Dan. Smashing prop, btw > > Pedro > > > Why thank you Pedro !..as usual ....i am flattered...but you know? that guy > "Hayward" ......Every time i post something .....he has to upstage me! and > post something nicer, > > I HATE HIM!!..............(:o)...just kidding buddy ...but it is nicer ! > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 20:53:42 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: New upload Message-ID: Just adding John Ernst's SSW D.III. Nice work! Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Page Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:11:31 -0600 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: <002101c2c744$1f9112e0$2272fea9@theshann> Actually, that is not entirely required, some of us men have occasion to use make-up. (ah, To be, or not to be, that is the questions,....) We hams can rarely turn down an opportunity to declaim. The sponges are usually used for two purposes - the main one is to apply base/foundation makeup (to even the skin tones and conceal blemishes - which, if you use make-up every day, you are going to develop). Smaller sponges get used for larger area overtones, at least in stage make-up ('highlight' areas, like eyebrow ridge, cheekbones, top of chin, and shadow areas like the hollows of the cheeks -- it will depend on how old you are trying to turn yourself). Little sponges on wands get used for eye makeup, small areas, etc. and brushes get used for rouges, feathered-in effects, etc. Fingers get used for a lot of applications. Stick to the sponges for modeling. .Mark. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Weier" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:47 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I > Mike > > >I am going to start the MAC Phoenix and was > >thinking of using a sponge. I have used a synthetic one in the past >for > >wood grain and it looks good. What kind of "cosmetic sponge" did > >you use? What is it supposed to be used for? > > > > I really don't know. The one I used was one of those small tan coloured > natural sponges that I found in the cosmetic section. The possible uses to > which women might put it will have to await enlightenment from the distaff > half if the list > > I've sent myself a reminder to photograph it - I will take some pics of the > process tonight and send the whole mess to Sanjeev for the site > > Shane > > ******************************** > > My Strine is a Toad in Disguise > > > ******************************** > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:24:05 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: New upload Message-ID: <007901c2c745$e23b4080$65a8a8c0@tampabay.rr.com> > Just adding John Ernst's SSW D.III. Nice work! Nice little SSW John. I like your choice of paint. Glad you didn't try the old Aero Gloss Stearman Red on that styrene ;-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 03:29:50 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Roden's SE5a versions Message-ID: As I eagerly await the arrival of the Roden SE5a, I am wondering what the different versions are. I know Wolsey and Viper engines are two variants but there is a third top fusealge variation for yet another. What is that? Any 2-seater SE5a's? Michael _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:39:46 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Roden's SE5a versions Message-ID: Michael >As I eagerly await the arrival of the Roden SE5a, I am wondering what >the >different versions are. I know Wolsey and Viper engines are two variants >but there is a third top fusealge variation for yet another. >What is >that? Mine will arrive tomorrow but my *guess* based on the small pic on Rodens site is that maybe onehas the bulged cockpit sides >Any 2-seater SE5a's? Not on that sprue, but the RAAF converted SE-5a's to dual control - had to be after 1921 though and therefore ot ;-) I even have photos and drawings IIRC Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:44:52 -0500 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Phonix D.I wasFlashback Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: <001201c2c748$c8a192c0$5a47bacc@ptdprolog.net> Shane Thanks. That should help. On another matter, anybody out there have a good match in either Polly-Scale Acrylic or ModelMaster Enamel for the "Yellow/Brown" that is supposed to be applied to the fuselage of the Naval version of this kit? O'Connor lists it as 5E/F7. tia Mike Muth Just finished: Something that'll appear in the next IM NB: Albatros D-III(OAW) in 1/48 and MAC Phonix D.I in 1/72 > The one I used was one of those small tan coloured > natural sponges that I found in the cosmetic section. The possible uses to > which women might put it will have to await enlightenment from the distaff > half if the list > > I've sent myself a reminder to photograph it - I will take some pics of the > process tonight and send the whole mess to Sanjeev for the site ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 23:33:50 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Christmas in February Message-ID: <20030128.233351.648.0.mtngoat01@juno.com> Jeez I can't get my message through the size cutoff. I will make it snappy. I was going to wait and make a proper list, but I'm so hyped that I can't wait till then. A guy here in Albuquerque New Mexico died and the hobby shop bought 1/4 of his estate which consisted of about 2500 model kits spanning the past 30 years. A bunch of them were WWI, and I couldn't help myself but I bought every one I could grab. Most are 1:48 scale, resin and vac. But I am keeping the 1:72 Meikraft Caproni Ca.3. These were all marked way down and then on top of that, half-price off the tag. The Caproni was $3.00. Junkers J-9/D-1, Albatross CIII, Smer, Eduard, and brands I never heard of. I picked up two tanks too, one is a "Whippet". Anyway, I won't build 1:48 until I build every 1:72 on the planet. So if you would like to have one of these, after I make my table, you can have it for what I bought it for plus shipping. Or trade. Some of the boxes look like hell, but the ones I checked inside look complete and intact, decals and all. Cheers - Clay ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 01:38:57 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Buzzards? Message-ID: <15e.1ae8f483.2b68d101@aol.com> --part1_15e.1ae8f483.2b68d101_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! Does any list member know who (if anyone) produces a Martinsyde Buzzard kit? I dont care if it is 1/72, 1/48, injected or resin (just no vacs)... I need to hunt one of these down, if they exist. TIA, Dave Zulis --part1_15e.1ae8f483.2b68d101_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi!

Does any list member know who (if anyone) produces a Martinsyde Buzzard kit?   I dont care if it is 1/72,  1/48,  injected or resin (just no vacs)...  I need to hunt one of these down, if they exist.

TIA,

Dave Zulis --part1_15e.1ae8f483.2b68d101_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:37:33 +0100 From: Paul Thompson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re StE : Roden 3 part wings. Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030129082838.00a5d800@pop.xs4all.nl> Shane, I seem to be just behind you building the W4, but finding out what you did just AFTER I make my mistakes, as Sod's Law would have it. I used a piece of aluminium T section to allign the top wing sections - has the one advantage that it's easy to pick up and set out of harms way while drying. Unfortunately my particular shot of the W4 has every single piece warped to varying degrees, half the struts (including float) broken in the box and trailing edges 2-3 mm thick, so I've lost a lot of detail putting it right. And there are a few moulding flaw lumps like the one on the lower wing of the Fokker DVII kits. Generally I'm more than happy with Roden kits, so I guess this one has had an unhappy history (winging pom mode off.....). I had apoint when I started this mail, but seem to have forgotten it. Oh well. Paul T. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:57:44 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Buzzards? Message-ID: Dave, "Does any list member know who (if anyone) produces a Martinsyde Buzzard kit? I dont care if it is 1/72, 1/48, injected or resin (just no vacs)... I need to hunt one of these down, if they exist." There is an *excellent* resin kit of the Buzzard from those Czech guys using the name "Czechmaster". Somewhat older by now (I think it came out in the early ninties) but really beautiful like most of the Czechmaster OT resins from thaat period. And if you're looking for background information, beside the Datafile there is also an excellent 3 part article on the Buzzard in Air international (around 1978 or 79 I guess). You will find that kit in the list on the Aviation Usk webpage. Detlef Schorsch at Classic Plane definitely had it available when I was there in early January... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:35:29 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Books Message-ID: <002201c2c782$26586b80$e8bc01d5@coherence.co.uk> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C2C782.24D8F770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi guys I hope you are all well. Lots of terrific new models in the Gallery. I am finalising domestic arrangements and things are fairly amicable, = but I am selling the major part of my extensive wwi aviation library. If = anybody is interested I have this listed in an Excel spreadsheet, so if = you'd like a copy please e-mail me (offline - I am unsubscribed). Haven't made a model for months now - spending a lot of time building = and launching solid fuel rockets with my two boys though - great fun. = Sold a lot of kits - actually rather a liberating experience! I could = never have built half the planes and always wondered about my sanity in = buying yet another Eduard xxx, when I had five on the shelf already! Anyway, good modelling to you all. Sandy ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C2C782.24D8F770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi guys
I hope you are all well.
Lots of terrific new models in the=20 Gallery.
 
I am finalising domestic arrangements = and things=20 are fairly amicable, but I am selling the major part of my extensive wwi = aviation library. If anybody is interested I have this = listed in an=20 Excel spreadsheet, so if you'd like a copy please e-mail me = (offline -=20 I am unsubscribed).
 
Haven't made a model for months now - = spending a=20 lot of time building and launching solid fuel rockets with my two boys = though -=20 great fun. Sold a lot of kits - actually rather a liberating = experience! I=20 could never have built half the planes and always wondered about my = sanity in=20 buying yet another Eduard xxx, when I had five on the shelf=20 already!
 
Anyway, good modelling to you = all.
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------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C2C782.24D8F770-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:08:35 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Books Message-ID: Hi Sandy, Glad to hear from you, get back on-list for proper, as soon as you can. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 05:09:48 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: SE5a conundrum Message-ID: Okay, looking through the Datafile Special on the SE5a, it has color photos of the machine at the RAF Museum. I have also looked at Shane's photos on the site. Here's the problem. The one in the DS shows the lower fuselage to be CDL, while Shane's photo shows the lower fuselage to be wood (this is inside the cockpit). Which is right? Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 05:11:59 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Buzzards? Message-ID: "Does any list member know who (if anyone) produces a Martinsyde Buzzard kit? I dont care if it is 1/72, 1/48, injected or resin (just no vacs)... I need to hunt one of these down, if they exist." Didn't Rosemont do one years ago? I don't see it listed currently on their site, but I thought they did one in vac. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:14:33 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New updates Message-ID: Well, I'm a bit behind my mail... I'll try to catch up! >New Modeler, Fernando Torre added to the gallery. Astounding work on those old stinking airfixes... but can't help but loving these models. I wonder how did you managed to make them look so nice Fernando! I like specially the triplane. >Added a new Siemens Schukert model from Dan Hayward. Well done Hayward!Nice weathered look. Did you used oil washes? D. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:30:10 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: 5 color lozenge data Message-ID: This is a great work, Mark! And an excellent web based resource for us modelers. I'm going to pass the url to Mr. Rimell, I guess that he will be interested on making a comment about your article in the mag. D. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:39:14 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New update Message-ID: >Just added a Russian Civil War subject by Steven Perry, this time >a Nieuport 27. Awesome! A most amusing paint scheme, Tovaritch Steve! Well done! D. Glory to the Rodina! _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:42:38 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: >Shane Weier sent in photos of his Aviatik Berg D.I Beautiful model of a not so beautiful aircraft (excuse me, but these aviatik crates never seduced me!) I may take advantage of the sponge techniques whenever I'll get to build that Phonix kit I got recently.... hmmm! These Austrian planes really get me thinking! Dangerous, isn't it? D. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:46:31 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Site update: Roden Albatros DIII in-progress Message-ID: Shane! >Shane Weier sends in photos of progress on his 1:72 Roden Alb D.III. Good one! But what's that scalpel cut on the cowling? I'm sure it is for some late purpose, like preparing an attachment point for rigging or such, right? ,-) D. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 04:47:38 -0800 (PST) From: MARK MILLER To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: 5 color lozenge data Message-ID: <20030129124738.61662.qmail@web80007.mail.yahoo.com> Diego Thanks but, hold off for just a bit I have additional samples and feel that I might be justified in making some kind of conclusion !!!! will amend the article as soon as I can of course, I'm sure there will be some disagreement ;-) but, that COULD be a good thing as long as everybody plays nice ;-) hmmm.... we will see Mark --- Diego Fernetti wrote: > This is a great work, Mark! And an excellent web > based resource for us > modelers. > I'm going to pass the url to Mr. Rimell, I guess > that he will be interested > on making a comment about your article in the mag. > D. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months > FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:37:51 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New at the Roden Site Message-ID: I'm a bit late in this but... >You can see the decals for the "pulley areas" in the wings, and I think I >agree with Shane (shock!). The decals just don't look "right". >However, how would one go about modeling this? I made new glazed windows with CA glue in the wings of a Revell Camel. From close examination, you can see the pulleys inside the glue, but I guess that if you look at the model casually, you may never imagine they are there. Lots of work to make them look right, of course, and I guess that doing that far from the leading edges may be harder to do as well. D. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:50:13 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Site update: Model of Pfalz DIII added Message-ID: >Mårten Tyllström sent in an Eduard Pfalz DIII. Great job. I like these airplanes much more than those angular Aviatiks! Ah, but Mårten, you have cheated and worked in 1/48! How shameful! ;-) Good build mon ami, hoping that the model gets its rigging soon! D. PS: Are you still subscribed? I can't reach your volvo address from these lousy hotmail accounts. However, I can write to Neil C. without problems (well, he may have some thoughts about my stupid messages!) _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:52:42 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: YASU: IWM RE.8 pics Message-ID: >Paul Thompson sent in photos of the RE.8 at the IWM. These include >closeup photos of the details!!!. >A veritable windfall for the AMS-opressed!!! I'll be d**ned! So many details to add in 1/72! Fernando are you going to try this RE8 Airfix kit? Thanks for the pictures, Paul! And many thanks to all the list image editors for their hard work! D. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:55:29 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Site update: Model of Pfalz DIII added Message-ID: > > >Mårten Tyllström sent in an Eduard Pfalz DIII. > > Great job. I like these airplanes much more than those > angular Aviatiks! Ah, > but Mårten, you have cheated and worked in 1/48! How shameful! ;-) > Good build mon ami, hoping that the model gets its rigging soon! > D. Yes it is very nice for an "in progress" shot, come on Mårten, models aren't finished till the rigging is done:-) > PS: Are you still subscribed? I can't reach your volvo > address from these > lousy hotmail accounts. However, I can write to Neil C. > without problems > (well, he may have some thoughts about my stupid messages!) > No comments! /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:55:45 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. Message-ID: Ross wrote: >My wife has a spare Picture Frame that has some glass in it so I now >have some. Be sure to remove the Mother-in-law picture so it doesn't gets damaged with scalpel cuts. You never know... ;-) D. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:57:15 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New upload Message-ID: >Just adding John Ernst's SSW D.III. Nice work! It is indeed! And a good option to avoid wrestling with those lozenge decals :-) D. Anyone know of a SS D.III 100% light gray? _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:08:14 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Site update: Model of Pfalz DIII added Message-ID: Neil from the frozen North wrote: >Yes it is very nice for an "in progress" shot, come on Mårten, >models aren't finished till the rigging is done:-) He sent me some pictures of the DH he is currently working on, but never managed to see the zip files. One wonders... >No comments! Cold, cold North indeed! D. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:05:33 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: 5 color lozenge data Message-ID: Mark! >but, hold off for just a bit >I have additional samples and feel that I might be >justified in making some kind of conclusion !!!! >will amend the article as soon as I can >of course, I'm sure there will be some disagreement >;-) Well, this may be not as dangerous as the Voss cowl discussion, but sure the Lozenge topic can last forever, or at least until we all get Time Machines to visit WW1 and see by our own eyes. >but, that COULD be a good thing >as long as everybody plays nice ;-) Just never invite Dan-San Abbot and Achim Engels to tea the same afternoon! D. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:30:39 -0600 From: Peter Mullin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Aviatiks Message-ID: <3E37E58F.7070704@biocomp.unl.edu> Diego wrote: >Beautiful model of a not so beautiful aircraft (excuse me, but these aviatik crates never seduced me!) > Go figure...for some weird reason, I'm enamored of the Berg D.I; to me it's simply one of the best-looking aircraft of the period (even if the wings did fall off a little bit in a dive...); I dunno...must be the sort of early-racing-car look to the thing...anyway, I'm planning on doing one for my next build (if I ever get past the excruciating, if self-set, task of painting seven-and-a-half million miniscule Emhar figures to go with the 18-pounders I put together about four months ago...) I've got both the Toko kit and the Eastern Express version thereof, and I'll probably go with the EE kit, mainly because it has no broken u/c struts and because it looks to me as if the lozenge decal that came with that kit is somewhat less garish than the Toko version. Does anyone have any tips regarding applying the lozenge? The decal sheet has some rather vaguely indicated cut lines for the top of the fuselage, but it seems to me that if I cut both halves at that point, there won't be quite enough decal to cover the whole area. Should I try to cut less? Trim only one half? Scrap the kit decals and get something else? Or, since I'm obviously into punishing myself with painting small things, should I just hand-paint the lozenge? Of course, Shane's sponge-mottling is another intriguing option... -- Peter Mullin Department of Plant Pathology University of Nebraska-Lincoln 406 Plant Sciences Hall Lincoln, NE 68583-0722 (402) 472-5770 FAX: (402) 472-2853 ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4959 **********************