WWI Digest 4958 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 2) Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. by "Michael Kendix" 3) Roll Models's Scavenger Hunt - Win $50! by BRENT THEOBALD 4) Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. by "Pedro Soares" 5) Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. by RadspadMike@netscape.net 6) Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 7) Re: WWI digest 4957 by Ken Schmitt 8) RE: Roll Models's Scavenger Hunt - Win $50! by RadspadMike@netscape.net 9) Re: Tom Morgan's DH2 in Windsock by Morg17ms@aol.com 10) Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. by "Shane Weier" 11) Re: Blue Max ribs by Ray 12) Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. by "Shane Weier" 13) Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. by Ray 14) Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 15) Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. by Ray 16) Re: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I by "Mike Muth" 17) Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. by "Shane Weier" 18) Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 19) Re: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I by "Shane Weier" 20) Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 21) Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. by "Shane Weier" 22) Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. by "Shane Weier" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:51:41 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. Message-ID: <002301c2c71f$d3197610$314e2dcb@future> Also good for sanding vac parts as well. The glass out of a picture frame! Now as I slap myself in the back of the head all I need do is buy a cheap picture from a $2 shop and I have myself a bit of glass. Now to go down to the Post Office and see if my Roden Se5a is in. Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Shane Weier Sent: Wednesday, 29 January 2003 9:46 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. Ross >Ok I don't have a glass top table so it's hard to get a good flat >surface. Nor do I think that the Real Estate agent would like me taking >a pane of glass out of the window. Neither do I but my employer does ;-) At home I use the glass out of an old picture frame. The glass is laid on top of my working surface and despite not being hardened glass (which I'd recommend) has survived many years of modelling accidents like dropped tools and paint bottles. A glass surface is a pain for some things, but nice when you need a flat surface that's almost impossible to glue stuff onto. Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** >From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. >Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:40:14 -0500 (EST) > > >Cheers > >Ross > >-----Original Message----- >From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Shane >Weier >Sent: Wednesday, 29 January 2003 9:34 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. > >Ross > > >Just getting the joints level between them. Also understanding that >they > >will need filler and sanding. > >Not on mine. Two or three swipes with 600 grit and polish with a nail >buffer > >I laid them flat on a glass top table with a piece of one of my business > >cards under the centre section to get it to sit at the same height. >Forced >all three bits against a steel ruler taped on the glass, ran a solvent >glue >in the joints and weighted the leading edges with a couple of CD cases >for >an hour or so. > >Shane > >******************************** > >My Strine is a Toad in Disguise > > >******************************** > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:56:34 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. Message-ID: >From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" > >Also good for sanding vac parts as well. The glass out of a picture >frame! Now as I slap myself in the back of the head all I need do is >buy a >cheap picture from a $2 shop and I have myself a bit of glass. And a picture too!:) I use some sort of ex-shelf piece of glass. My wife is windering why the toothpaste tube fell to the bottom of the bathroom cabinet when she put it in the other morning. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:01:04 -0600 From: BRENT THEOBALD To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Roll Models's Scavenger Hunt - Win $50! Message-ID: Howdy! You know I am aprehensive about posting Roll Models stuff here, but I decided I wanted my WWI buddies to get a chance to win stuff too. My apologies for those of you who consider this spam. =========================================================== Roll Models is having a new contest. It's easy, no models to build. You just have to surf our web sites. Here's the deal: The answers to the five questions below may be found within the Roll Models' websites. You are going to need to visit the Online Catalog and the Review Site. Once you find the answers to the questions email them to me at: brent@rollmodels.com. If they are correct your message will be put into the virtual hat. A name will be drawn from the virtual hat two weeks from tomorrow. The winner will receive a $50 gift certificate. http://www.rollmodels.com http://www.rollmodels.net You must include your first and last name as well as your mailing address. (I get tired of chasing winners down!) If you don't include this info your message will be deleted. Okay, enough dull stuff. Here are the questions! 1. What is the current Roll Models' price of the Trumpeter 1/350 Hornet? 2. What is the current Roll Models' price of the Revell of Germany 1/48 Arado AR 234C? 3. What is the current Roll Models' price of the Schiffer Publications Camo Uniforms of the German Wehrmact? 4. Who has the most full build reviews of the Fokker D.VII on the Roll Models review site? (Extra credit if you tell me who was your favorite!) 5. What is the tiniest armor model in the full build section of the Roll Models' review site? If anyone posts, or otherwise shares the answers to this contest it will be cancelled. No cheating! Have fun! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 23:12:59 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. Message-ID: <00a401c2c722$cceb8dc0$a1465451@netcabo.pt> Ross, I had some problems too, but all it took was some sanding and a tiny bit of milliput here and there. I used Contacta glue, but I think Shane's way is a better approach. Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross & Wendy Moorhouse To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:20 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. > I had a look at Bill Arnolds ones and he seems to have gotten rid of the > seam very nicely. So like you Michael looks like I am in for some > filling and sanding. Shame the leading and trailing edges don't seem to > match up either on my wing. ;-) > > Cheers > > Ross > > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of > Michael Kendix > Sent: Wednesday, 29 January 2003 9:08 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. > > Ross: > > I've done this on the Albatros Oeffag D.II and Oeffag D.III. I thought > it > was a bit of an "issue" - took a fair amount of sanding, filling and > such to > get the seam to disappear. The fit on the D.III was a bit worse because > I > didn't quite glue it correctly but because I'm using the sworl decals on > the > wings, I'm hoping that'll be less visible. > > Michael > > > > >From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" > >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > >To: Multiple recipients of list > >Subject: [WWI] @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 > 16:51:19 > >-0500 (EST) > > > >Have you had a go at putting the 3 part wings together yet? If so how > >did it turn out? I am into my 2nd go at doing this. The first attempt I > >pulled them apart and tried again. I am still not happy with the they > >look. > > > >Cheers > > > >Ross > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:12:01 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. Message-ID: <50F36D44.3BBE7B15.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Shane, It's not as easy as you say it is for some. After all, how do you unglue the CD cases from the wing leading edges? ;<)) I got three pieces of plate or tempered glass about 1/4-inch thick from a glass shop years ago and they have worked well. I use them about half the time or more. I painted the bottom of the glass white which makes the piece of work more easily seen. I've had to re-spray them from time to time when I spill solvents and thinners. Mike Kavanaugh Mike Kavanaugh __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:16:48 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. Message-ID: <002701c2c723$55262060$314e2dcb@future> Just as well I have several other D kits in the stable waiting to be built. At least now I have a better way of doing these 3 part wings. Cheers Ross ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:22:52 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Re: WWI digest 4957 Message-ID: Shane; Thank you for the earlier comment RE: scribing. > On which subject, I suspect I've gone to too much trouble lining things up - > photos of the D.III show that the cowl is very ill fitting at times - to the > extent that you could get a hand into the gaps ! Don't you just love "happy accidents"? Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:24:21 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Roll Models's Scavenger Hunt - Win $50! Message-ID: <035876CE.6E8D86D7.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Brent, Another one? Why didn't I win anything on the last one? I made three considered, well-chosen selections which conservatively totalled well under $100. . . all OT too! ;<(( Now, since I have bankrupted myself with model aircraft acquistions, you are trying to lure me into armor. I think you are an evil person, Brent. ;<) Mike Kavanaugh BRENT THEOBALD wrote: >Howdy! > >You know I am aprehensive about posting Roll Models stuff here, but I >decided I wanted my WWI buddies to get a chance to win stuff too. My >apologies for those of you who consider this spam. > >=========================================================== > >Roll Models is having a new contest. It's easy, no models to build. You >just have to surf our web sites. --part1_1ce.115bd2b.2b68735e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nigel - you guys on that side of the pond have a 2 or 3 week advantage over us colonials & rebels - re. WindSock that is. I send several dozen photos to Ray to chose from, but I have my favorites (the ones that don't show the hidden flaws) and I hope they turned out OK. Your report is flattering and encouraging! It's going to drive me nuts waiting to see it all in print. Tom --part1_1ce.115bd2b.2b68735e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nigel - you guys on that side of the pond have a 2 or 3 week advantage over us colonials & rebels - re. WindSock that is.  I send several dozen photos to Ray to chose from, but I have my favorites (the ones that don't show the hidden flaws) and I hope they turned out OK.  Your report is flattering and encouraging!  It's going to drive me nuts waiting to see it all in print.

Tom --part1_1ce.115bd2b.2b68735e_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:07:40 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. Message-ID: Ross, >Now to go down to the Post Office and see if my Roden Se5a is in. Mine isn't :-( BUT it will be tomorrow if Earl is as efficient as usual. I'm not even going to open it, but I *WILL* open the A-Model Nieuport so that I can sniff the plastic and beat Matt to the punch :-) Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:15:26 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org, "Pedro N. Soares" Subject: Re: Blue Max ribs Message-ID: <200301281615.26198.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> I have used decal strips on the Eindekker and the Nieuport. It worked quite well, unfortunatetly I over used Mr Surfacer on the Eindekker. The decals strips for tapes and riblets are really boring to apply btw. Remember to use a new # 11 blade or single sided razor blade. Otherwise the decal strips get lots of little kinks at 90 degrees to the strip. No big deal but it does weaken the decal. Ray On Tuesday 28 January 2003 08:07, Pedro N. Soares wrote: > Lance says, > > > Pedro and I have been through a lengthy discussion of the tapes, and I > > think we are both convinced that ordinary decal film, either under or > > over the color coat, is an excellent way to simulate tapes. > > And I fully agree. Still there is a slight difference. Take Lance's > smashing piece de resistance: he went through the trouble of making ribs > which were later covered up with decal tapes. > > I, that make smaller models (and worse models for that matter, not because > of the scale, of course, since that is unquestionably better, but because > of the difference in skill and talent) could get away with just the tapes > and I think the results were rather good and convincing. > > Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:19:12 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. Message-ID: Mike, >It's not as easy as you say it is for some. After all, how do you >unglue >the CD cases from the wing leading edges? ;<)) :-) Funny beggar. You and Michael should form a duo. Really ;-) >I got three pieces of plate or tempered glass about 1/4-inch thick >from a >glass shop years ago and they have worked well. That's probably a good bit safer solution than mine which was a spur of the moment thing. About 10 years ago! >I use them about half the time or more. I painted the bottom of the >glass >white which makes the piece of work more easily seen. I've had >to >re-spray them from time to time when I spill solvents and thinners. Mine covers about 1/2 of one of those large green plastic cutting mats with the 1cm grid. I use the grid beneath it for alignment, or slip a sheet of white paper between them to get the same effect as your paint, or put drawings beneath the glass which I want to compare as I build or...all sorts of things, I even put large frets of brass F####ng ships railings underneath to stop accidental damage Verstile stuff, glass. I hear it can also be used in windows Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:27:57 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org, "Shane Weier" Subject: Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. Message-ID: <200301281627.57105.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> If you're worried about using glass. You can go down the hardware store and get a ceramic tile in the largest size you can find. Thats what I use, to many things (cats) and monsters (kids) who might smash the glass so the tile was my next best idea. You can also use a tile cutter to make it more shaped for wings and stuff so you dont use so much desk space. Ray On Tuesday 28 January 2003 14:46, Shane Weier wrote: > Ross > > >Ok I don't have a glass top table so it's hard to get a good flat > >surface. Nor do I think that the Real Estate agent would like me taking > >a pane of glass out of the window. > > Neither do I but my employer does ;-) > > At home I use the glass out of an old picture frame. The glass is laid on > top of my working surface and despite not being hardened glass (which I'd > recommend) has survived many years of modelling accidents like dropped > tools and paint bottles. > > A glass surface is a pain for some things, but nice when you need a flat > surface that's almost impossible to glue stuff onto. > > Shane > > ******************************** > > My Strine is a Toad in Disguise > > > ******************************** > > > > > > From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" > > >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > >To: Multiple recipients of list > >Subject: [WWI] Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. > >Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:40:14 -0500 (EST) > > > > > > > >Cheers > > > >Ross > > > >-----Original Message----- > > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Shane > > >Weier > >Sent: Wednesday, 29 January 2003 9:34 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list > >Subject: [WWI] Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. > > > >Ross > > > > >Just getting the joints level between them. Also understanding that > > > >they > > > > >will need filler and sanding. > > > >Not on mine. Two or three swipes with 600 grit and polish with a nail > >buffer > > > >I laid them flat on a glass top table with a piece of one of my business > > > >cards under the centre section to get it to sit at the same height. > >Forced > >all three bits against a steel ruler taped on the glass, ran a solvent > >glue > >in the joints and weighted the leading edges with a couple of CD cases > >for > >an hour or so. > > > >Shane > > > >******************************** > > > >My Strine is a Toad in Disguise > > > > > >******************************** > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:25:09 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. Message-ID: <002f01c2c72c$e518c750$314e2dcb@future> Nor is mine. :-( Aust Post takes 2 to three days to get a parcel from Vic to Sydney. I know it doesn't take this long as I used to work for them along time ago. Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Shane Weier Sent: Wednesday, 29 January 2003 11:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. Ross, >Now to go down to the Post Office and see if my Roden Se5a is in. Mine isn't :-( BUT it will be tomorrow if Earl is as efficient as usual. I'm not even going to open it, but I *WILL* open the A-Model Nieuport so that I can sniff the plastic and beat Matt to the punch :-) Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:29:58 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org, "Michael Kendix" Subject: Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. Message-ID: <200301281629.58269.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> Michael, lol has your wife come looking where you build models yet..... Mine does if anything in the house goes missing. Ray On Tuesday 28 January 2003 14:58, Michael Kendix wrote: > From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" > > >Also good for sanding vac parts as well. The glass out of a picture > >frame! Now as I slap myself in the back of the head all I need do is >buy > > a cheap picture from a $2 shop and I have myself a bit of glass. > > And a picture too!:) > > I use some sort of ex-shelf piece of glass. My wife is windering why the > toothpaste tube fell to the bottom of the bathroom cabinet when she put it > in the other morning. > > Michael ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:36:33 -0500 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: <015d01c2c72e$7b817560$fad8bacc@ptdprolog.net> Shane I agree with Mike Kendix. I am going to start the MAC Phoenix and was thinking of using a sponge. I have used a synthetic one in the past for wood grain and it looks good. What kind of "cosmetic sponge" did you use? What is it supposed to be used for? Mike Muth > Excellent stuff! I hope you got a good price for it. > > Gotta love that A-H stuff.:) > > Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:38:44 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. Message-ID: Ross >Nor is mine. :-( Aust Post takes 2 to three days to get a parcel from >Vic to Sydney. I know it doesn't take this long as I used to work for >them along time ago. Usually if I ring or email Earl one morning I get the kit next day in the afternoon mail delivery (at work) I was a bit late yesterday, so I expectthe kit tomorrow. Two days from a country town two states and 1200km away is petty good. Yours is slower because the Australia Post people in Sydney are no doubt sitting in a cafe drinking latte. Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:41:24 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. Message-ID: <004b01c2c72f$267b99a0$314e2dcb@future> My wife has a spare Picture Frame that has some glass in it so I now have some. Cheers Ross Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Ray Sent: Wednesday, 29 January 2003 11:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. If you're worried about using glass. You can go down the hardware store and get a ceramic tile in the largest size you can find. Thats what I use, to many things (cats) and monsters (kids) who might smash the glass so the tile was my next best idea. You can also use a tile cutter to make it more shaped for wings and stuff so you dont use so much desk space. Ray ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:45:33 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: Mike >I am going to start the MAC Phoenix and was >thinking of using a sponge. I have used a synthetic one in the past >for >wood grain and it looks good. What kind of "cosmetic sponge" did >you use? What is it supposed to be used for? I really don't know. The one I used was one of those small tan coloured natural sponges that I found in the cosmetic section. The possible uses to which women might put it will have to await enlightenment from the distaff half if the list I've sent myself a reminder to photograph it - I will take some pics of the process tonight and send the whole mess to Sanjeev for the site Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:51:37 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. Message-ID: <005e01c2c730$94258640$314e2dcb@future> No they aren't sitting having coffee. They are mis-sorting the mail. I could tell you horror stories about this. I take it your Roden is the W.4? Cheers Ross ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:54:36 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. Message-ID: Ross >My wife has a spare Picture Frame that has some glass in it so I now >have some. An addendum to the "what I did" Because I pushed all three parts against a straight edge taped to the glass the leading edge is precise. I trued all four mating surfaces before gluing, though nothing elaborate, just a swipe against a 400 grit sanding *block* Looking down on the parts you then see that the wing surfaces are higher than the centre section. This is because the centre section has a shorter chord and the back of it drops below the correct height. I chocked it up at rear with piece cut from a business card so that the uppersurface aligned along the entire chord. Finally, the rear corners protrude slightly when the leading edge is aligned. Sand it to conform to the proper shape - better Roden has this overlap slightly than leave a small gap to fill on an edge. Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:03:04 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: @ StE : Roden 3 part wings. Message-ID: Ross >No they aren't sitting having coffee. They are mis-sorting the mail. I >could tell you horror stories about this. Coffee break must be over ;-) > >I take it your Roden is the W.4? Yes and no. I started both of them at once. The W.4 fuselage is closed and the empennage is attached. Nothing has been done on the wings or floats. However the one in the photos is the D.III It has proceeded past the condition of the pics on the site in so far as I have also prepared and pinned the lower wings, prepared the upper wings, finished the preparation and painted the fuselage and empennage white, and almost finished masking them for the second (black) coat. So far the *ONLY* putty is a brushfull of Mr Surfacer on the fuselage just aft and beneath starboard of the cockpit, a line of Tamiya putty along the lower seam between the wingroots where it was a little concave and two spots over small sinkmarks on the aft fuselage sides. This is worse than the Eduard D.V, but only barely. Shane (Oh - I also shimmed the tailplane roots with 5thou plasticard so they'd sit in place using friction alone. Made it easy to get them aligned before glueing) ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4958 **********************