WWI Digest 4955 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Breguet XIV A2 ""PHOTO Version ? by RadspadMike@netscape.net 2) Re: The Perfect Solution to the =?iso-8859-1?B?Vm/f?= Conundrum by "Ray Boorman" 3) Re: OT RN Monitors by Steve Cox 4) Re: The Perfect Solution to the Voß Conundrum by "Shane Weier" 5) Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I by ot811 6) Re: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I by "Michael Kendix" 7) RE: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 8) Re: The Voss cowl conspiracy - was Made out like a by Sean Brian Kirby 9) Re: The Perfect Solution to the Voß Conundrum by Sean Brian Kirby 10) Re: The Perfect Solution to the Voß Conundrum by Sean Brian Kirby 11) RE: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I by "Shane Weier" 12) RE: New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell by Sean Brian Kirby 13) RE: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I by "Steven Perry" 14) Re: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I by Sean Brian Kirby 15) RE: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I by Sean Brian Kirby 16) RE: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I by RadspadMike@netscape.net 17) News from Jager by knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 18) RE: News from Jager by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 19) RE: New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell by "Shane Weier" 20) RE: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I by "Shane Weier" 21) Re: The Perfect Solution to the =?utf-8?q?Vo=EF=BF=BDConundrum?= by Ray 22) RE: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I by "Shane Weier" 23) Re: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I by Dennis Ugulano 24) Re: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I by "Shane Weier" 25) Re: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I by Ray 26) RE: New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell by dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com 27) Shane's Aviatik by Ken Schmitt 28) Re: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I by "Shane Weier" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 17:40:37 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Breguet XIV A2 ""PHOTO Version ? Message-ID: <5C572E6E.337B75F7.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Good grief! That thing is huge. I don't see how it could be "hand held". It seems as if it would have to be mounted vertically with the top end being accessible to the observer for changing film, in which case the bottom end of the camera would protrude from an opening in the bottom of the fuselage if inside the aircraft. I wouldn't think the film changing end could be too high or it would interfere with the observer's gunnery. Besides, the observer's cockpit must provide for film and ammo storage. Perhaps this makes a case for it being mounted externally. I can see where I could go full circle following this type of reasoning and prove that the camera was an impossibility. ;-) Mike Kavanaugh "Lance Krieg" wrote: >In mulling this release, people are wondering about: > >"... a camera in my 14A2 kit. I don't know what it looks like or where >it was mounted or stowed." > >Well, here is a Brequet camera being loaded onto the plane. As to >where this beast might live, I wonder myself. Options must be limited: > >http://132.177.241.68/Photos/Fre/Bre14/lk_brg_4.jpg > >Personally, I'm waiting for anyu of the promised references on this >plane before I try to build either version of Hi-Tech's kit. __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:15:56 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The Perfect Solution to the =?iso-8859-1?B?Vm/f?= Conundrum Message-ID: LOL that only works if you beleive the cowl was shipped in natural metal!! The whole point was that they just painted the face on the factury shipped olive cowl or painted it yellow in the 17 or so days the aircraft was in frontline service. Sorry I cant resist being a pain in the you know where on this one! You could do Steinhousens DR1 with red cowl and yellow face!. Ray (at work waiting to scoot for the day) ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: Sean Brian Kirby Picture this: A diorama. Mechanic stands, brush in left hand, other hand on chin, staring down at two paint cans, one dark olive green, one 'Chromgelb.' The cans lie before the turquois Dreidekker, the cowl still in natural metal. Worth a shot, eh? :) Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ---- End Original Message ---- ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 00:20:08 +0000 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: OT RN Monitors Message-ID: I have thumbnails of the monitor M33 taken at Portsmouth last year on my website. If you want any enlargements let me know regards Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html http://www.bramptonscalemodelclub.fsnet.co.uk If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ > From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 12:38:45 -0500 (EST) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: OT RN Monitors > > > Quoting Marc Flake : > >> 'Ming was looking for OT RN Monitors. HP Models (that prolific >> manufacturer I mentioned a couple of weeks ago) makes them. And NNT >> (www.nntmodell.com) lists three in their catalog. They are listed for >> 42 Euros > > > Cheers Marc, I fancy a change from aircraft, and I haven't built a ship since > I > was a kid (Airfix HMS Hood). > > Reckon a Monitor is an interesting idea. > > Dave > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:21:49 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The Perfect Solution to the Voß Conundrum Message-ID: Ray says: >You could do Steinhousens DR1 with red cowl and yellow face!. ....which is probably where Roden got the idea of a red cowl.... > >Ray (at work waiting to scoot for the day) Shane (at work and waiting to scoot for any reason at all) ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 19:38:30 -0500 From: ot811 To: wwi-list Subject: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: <20030128004020.041874640EA@mail.mailsnare.net> Shane Weier sent in photos of his Aviatik Berg D.I See http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Weier/CP/index.html or news. regards Sanjeev ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 00:45:37 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: Excellent stuff! I hope you got a good price for it. Gotta love that A-H stuff.:) Michael >From: ot811 > >Shane Weier sent in photos of his Aviatik Berg D.I >See >http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Weier/CP/index.html >or news. >regards >Sanjeev _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 11:46:01 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: <003901c2c666$a1601e30$314e2dcb@future> Wow very very nice Shane. Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of ot811 Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2003 11:43 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I Shane Weier sent in photos of his Aviatik Berg D.I See http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Weier/CP/index.html or news. regards Sanjeev ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:52:47 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The Voss cowl conspiracy - was Made out like a Message-ID: <20030128005247.45664.qmail@web14805.mail.yahoo.com> --- Hans Trauner wrote: > Not bad, Sean, only two typos. > Hans Thanks. Was it 'Eisernen Kreuzen?' I've seen it as 'Kreuzes,' but I'll be danged if that looks right. A friend who speaks fluently - and whose wife is from Dueseldorf (where in Hades is the u-umlaut on here?!?) - thought that the Brillainten was correctly designated "Diamond," but I had to correct him. (His wife also told him that a 'Berliner' was indeed a jelly doughnut.) What was my other typo, pray-tell? :) (Um... was I even right about the first?) Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:55:29 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The Perfect Solution to the Voß Conundrum Message-ID: <20030128005529.72411.qmail@web14801.mail.yahoo.com> --- Ray Boorman wrote: > You could do Steinhousens DR1 with red cowl and > yellow face!. Yeah, but then there'd be those who would swear you entirely [screwed] up Voß' Tripe. ;) Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:56:28 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The Perfect Solution to the Voß Conundrum Message-ID: <20030128005628.65187.qmail@web14810.mail.yahoo.com> --- Shane Weier wrote: > >Ray (at work waiting to scoot for the day) > > Shane (at work and waiting to scoot for any reason > at all) I scoots when I wanna'... :p Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:58:49 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: Ross >Wow very very nice Shane. Thanks mate. Nice kit, and even though I never went "to the wall" with it I hurt when I handed it over :-( FWIW I have no idea how people will be seeing the photos. My laptop shows them properly using one set of jpegs, my desktop needed a much lighter set for it to look correct. The web page is using the lighter set. FWIW the model as painted looks almost 100% the same colours as used for the same camo in the FMP book. If your screen is showing it as a fairly pale colour overall - I should send Sanjeev the other jpegs! Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** .org _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 17:06:39 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell Message-ID: <20030128010639.75531.qmail@web14801.mail.yahoo.com> --- Shane Weier wrote: > Incidentally, the dislike of Roden is some quarters > was IMO largely caused > by a model of a WW2 aircraft designed by a WW1 > designer and according to the > Luftwafflers it can't be built. That has meant a > tough road for Roden in > selling their first ot 1/48 kit I'm afraid because > the assumption of poor > quality sticks around (as Sean noted) I'll take the Eduard Dreidekker over the Roden nine times out of ten because of that horrifying warp in the starboard Roden fuselage. But I've bought two of the Rodens - their Dr.1 has terrific markings selections, and that little rudder-bar's a beauty. The wheels will go on my Rosemonted Revell D.VIIs, and the rest will go to my friend. A nice little kit, though. But the Eduard offering's so beautiful. The Roden D.VIIs also offer great selections as markings go, and I'll have to get a few. Shane, do you refer to a certain airliner/bomber? There's some roughness, there; cannot yet comment on buildability. Outline looks fine... > Maybe they'll be inspired to stick with us :-) Maybe. They do it pretty well. :) Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:11:54 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: RE: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: <002901c2c66a$41a412e0$65a8a8c0@tampabay.rr.com> > FWIW I have no idea how people will be seeing the photos. My laptop shows > them properly using one set of jpegs, my desktop needed a much lighter set > for it to look correct. The web page is using the lighter set. Shows up nicely on my NEC MultiSync P750. Excellent work. Exactly what did you use to splotch on the camo color? Save that tool :-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 17:26:15 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: <20030128012615.56301.qmail@web14805.mail.yahoo.com> --- ot811 wrote: > Shane Weier sent in photos of his Aviatik Berg D.I > See > http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Weier/CP/index.html > or news. Sheesh, Shane, your models are gorgeous. Nice Aviatik, man. Thanks, Sanjeev. Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 17:30:22 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: <20030128013022.87157.qmail@web14811.mail.yahoo.com> --- Shane Weier wrote: > FWIW the model as painted looks almost 100% the same > colours as used for the > same camo in the FMP book. If your screen is showing > it as a fairly pale > colour overall - I should send Sanjeev the other > jpegs! Naw, it looks good, Shane - we're probably seeing a good representation. Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:33:32 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: <25CE742C.439E68A6.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Very nice job, Shane. Did you don diving gear and gather your own "natural" sponge? Also, did you cut the sponge in any particular way or just in several small bits? Mike Kavanaugh ot811 wrote: >Shane Weier sent in photos of his Aviatik Berg D.I __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 02:40:15 +0100 (CET) From: knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: News from Jager Message-ID: <20030128014015.37DE7343B6@login-3.eunet.no> Hei, I just got a newsletter from Jager, to be released in 2003: Aircraft kits 1/48: JA9. ALBATROS DXII (experimental 1918):TBA JA10. JUNKERS CL1:TBA JA11. ALBATROS DXI (experimental 1918): TBA JA12. 2 SEATER, TYPE TBA JA6. AEG JII: TBA He had some problems with the AEG JII moulds, but it will be released. Detail set 1/48: JA11. VARIOUS DOGS (DIFFERENT TYPES AND SIZES): TBA There were also a number of new figures in 1/32: FIG. WW1.8 RUSSIAN INFANTRY 1917 TBA FIG. WW1.9 BRITISH INFANTRY 1914 FIG.WW1.10 GERMAN PILOT AND OBSERVER 1917 TBA FIG.WW1.11 TURKISH INFANTRY, PALASTINE 1917 TBA FIG. WW1.12 GERMAN INFANTRY 1914 TBA FIG. WW1.13 BRITISH PILOT AND OBSERVER £15.80 FIG. WW1.14 MOUNTED GERMAN UHLAN 1914 TBA FIG. WW1.15 XMAS TRUCE 1914: 3 FIG. VIGNETTE £23.70 Eders Knut Erik ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 12:58:45 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: News from Jager Message-ID: <004601c2c670$ca635720$314e2dcb@future> Yeah baby... "FIG.WW1.11 TURKISH INFANTRY, PALASTINE 1917" There are very few figures of Turks around. Shame though that there aren't any new 48th scale figures. Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Knut Erik Hagen Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2003 12:42 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] News from Jager Hei, I just got a newsletter from Jager, to be released in 2003: Aircraft kits 1/48: JA9. ALBATROS DXII (experimental 1918):TBA JA10. JUNKERS CL1:TBA JA11. ALBATROS DXI (experimental 1918): TBA JA12. 2 SEATER, TYPE TBA JA6. AEG JII: TBA He had some problems with the AEG JII moulds, but it will be released. Detail set 1/48: JA11. VARIOUS DOGS (DIFFERENT TYPES AND SIZES): TBA There were also a number of new figures in 1/32: FIG. WW1.8 RUSSIAN INFANTRY 1917 TBA FIG. WW1.9 BRITISH INFANTRY 1914 FIG.WW1.10 GERMAN PILOT AND OBSERVER 1917 TBA FIG.WW1.11 TURKISH INFANTRY, PALASTINE 1917 TBA FIG. WW1.12 GERMAN INFANTRY 1914 TBA FIG. WW1.13 BRITISH PILOT AND OBSERVER £15.80 FIG. WW1.14 MOUNTED GERMAN UHLAN 1914 TBA FIG. WW1.15 XMAS TRUCE 1914: 3 FIG. VIGNETTE £23.70 Eders Knut Erik ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 12:19:59 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell Message-ID: Sean >I'll take the Eduard Dreidekker over the Roden nine >times out of ten because of that horrifying warp in >the starboard Roden fuselage. Classic example. I have six (don't ask!!) of the Roden kit and *none* have a warp, horrific or otherwise. I also have two of the Eduards (one built) but used and will use the Roden engines because they're better. So are the struts for that matter, but the Eduard wins on ease of construction given that mine went together so slickly it could largely be held together without glue! Horses for courses, as they say. >Shane, do you refer to a certain airliner/bomber? >There's some roughness, there; cannot yet comment on >buildability. Outline looks fine... Yes. have a look at (OT only modellers please avert your eyes) http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/111/lounge111.htm Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 12:26:02 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: SP >Exactly what did you use to splotch on the camo color? Save >that tool :-) A natural sponge bought at a pharmacy from the cosmetics section. Actually, I bought several, and messed about with the different shapes, and trimmed bits off and experimented. *Don't* use artificial sponges - IMO they're too "regular" and the pseudo random effect is lost Someone else - Dennis I reckon - used the same technique on a model in 1/72 recently. IMO I'd probably use a *different* sponge to get the right look in 1/72 otherwise it's all the same Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:37:25 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org, Sean Brian Kirby Subject: Re: The Perfect Solution to the =?utf-8?q?Vo=EF=BF=BDConundrum?= Message-ID: <200301271837.25414.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> Exactly!! ;) On Monday 27 January 2003 16:56, Sean Brian Kirby wrote: > --- Ray Boorman wrote: > > You could do Steinhousens DR1 with red cowl and > > yellow face!. > > Yeah, but then there'd be those who would swear you > entirely [screwed] up Vo� Tripe. ;) > > > Sean ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 12:38:23 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: Mike >Very nice job, Shane. Did you don diving gear and gather your >own >"natural" sponge? Also, did you cut the sponge in any particular way or >just in several small bits? The sponge I bought was from the cosmetic section at a local store - I think they frown on people pinching them off our reef ;-) FWIW I used a sponge which was roughly oval, around 4cm by 2.5cm (1.5" x 1") and fairly flat, maybe 1/2" thick. I painted the tan colour using the airbrush, and gave it a day to dry. Then using the red/brown paint I brushed out a very shallow pool of paint thinned to about airbrush consistency on a piece of plastic scrap and just lightly dabbed the sponges largest side in the paint. *Lightly* You just want the high spots wet, don't soak the sponge. A couple of dabs with the sponge on scrap to check there's not too much paint, then maybe 6-10 on the model until it gets too dry. Repeat until the surface is covered, use one of the small sides to add extra in any awkward spots or places that look like they need more. Give it a day and do the same with the green. I also went to the bother of masking the fuselage sides while I did the wing, then vice versa, but didn't bother at the tail and I now think it was a waste of time. However - I did need to cat one end of teh sponge down to a wedge shape to get in the gap between fin and fuselage. Note that the paint needs thinning because if you don't the model gets a nasty texture, and that a topcoat of clear removes any issues with variable sheen Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:24:21 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: <200301272224_MC3-1-2682-E122@compuserve.com> Shane, Excellent model. A real pleasure to look at. The sponge method is very easy to master. You were far more careful that I was. I painted all of my colors withing 30 minutes of each other. The key as you mentioned is not to put too much pressure on the sponge. The results are shown in your very nice model. Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:35:01 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: Dennis says: > The sponge method is very easy to master. You were far more >careful that I was. I painted all of my colors withing 30 minutes of >each >other. The key as you mentioned is not to put too much pressure on the >sponge. The results are shown in your very nice model. FWIW I used Humbrol paint which dries quickly and hard, and could have done the lot inside two hours but real life led to me doing one coat each of three nights. Used the same method on a scratchbuilt Aviatik C.1 about 10 years ago - and the method certainly passes the test of time in so far as I still can't think of a better way. (Humourous content - I took the model to two club meetings and to the new owner and in all three places was asked if the finish was done with decals. I don't know whether that's a comment on how badly I did it, or how well!) Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 19:41:54 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: <200301271941.54396.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> Shane, damn nice D1. You mention the weathering was understated at the request of the owner. Well the photos make it look pretty darn realistic to me. Must be true about a little weathering goes a long way. Was the prop painted, carved from veneer or what?? Ray On Monday 27 January 2003 16:42, ot811 wrote: > Shane Weier sent in photos of his Aviatik Berg D.I > See > http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Weier/CP/index.html > or news. > regards > Sanjeev ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 03:46:05 +0000 From: dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: RE: New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell Message-ID: <1043725565.3e35fcfd32bbe@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Shane Weier : >> > Classic example. I have six (don't ask!!) of the Roden kit and *none* > have a > warp, horrific or otherwise. I also have two of the Eduards (one built) But he doesn't build teeny tiny scale............... Dave Fleming tonite's Bob Pearson Insomniac prize winner! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:57:08 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Shane's Aviatik Message-ID: Shane- Hadda say something. That's Aviatik-Berg is a work O art. Really pretty. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 14:01:26 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Web site update:Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: Ray >Shane, damn nice D1. Thanks mate, and thanks also to the others who have remarked so kindly on the model. >You mention the weathering was understated at the request >of the owner. Well the photos make it look pretty darn realistic to me. >Must be true about a little weathering goes a long way. It does indeed. In fact the weathering seems heavier in the pics, maybe because they are a bit contrastier than in real life. >Was the prop painted, carved from veneer or what?? Painted. Looks okay IMO. One interesting fact that I learned in building this model. When I searches the datafile to see whether the A-H used obviously dark-light wood props I found that the answer was yes, no, and maybe. Yes, sometimes, no sometimes. And the dark-light versions came in at least two varieties, one of which had few apparent layers and one of which had a lot. I chose the easy one, after all the model was for someone else :-) Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4955 **********************