WWI Digest 4953 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Half Time by rewing@aol.com 2) Urgent Response Needed by "GEORGE ETUWE" 3) Re: Fokker F.I (was Re: Re: Made out like a bandit) by Dennis Ugulano 4) Re: The Voss cowl conspiracy - was Made out like a by "Bob Pearson" 5) Re: Half Time by "Bob Pearson" 6) Voss cowl by jasta@webtv.net 7) Re: Voss cowl by "Shane Weier" 8) RE: Bucs #1 by "Pedro N. Soares" 9) A-model Nie IV by "Pedro N. Soares" 10) RE: A-model Nie IV by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 11) RE: RFC book by Crawford Neil 12) Art work of the Gavia Bristol Scout.. by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 13) RE: A-model Nie IV by "Pedro N. Soares" 14) Albatros C.I - bomb load by Casirati Alberto 15) RE: A-model Nie IV by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 16) RE: A-model Nie IV by "Matt Bittner" 17) Removing SNJ by Crawford Neil 18) RE: SE 5a in my hobby shop by "Clemente Balladares" 19) Re: Spoked wheel qn/ans #2 by SSH 20) Re: Albatros C.I - bomb load by "Lance Krieg" 21) RE: New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell by "Hans Trauner" 22) Re: 5 color lozenge data by "Hans Trauner" 23) Re: The Voss cowl conspiracy - was Made out like a by "Hans Trauner" 24) New updates by Allan Wright 25) Re: 5 color lozenge data by MARK MILLER 26) RE: New updates by "Pedro N. Soares" 27) digest by "Patrick H Lewis" 28) Re: Removing SNJ by rewing@aol.com 29) Re: Removing SNJ by Allan Wright 30) New at the Roden Site by tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) 31) RE: New at the Roden Site by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 32) Re: New at the Roden Site by "Lance Krieg" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 00:08:16 -0500 From: rewing@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Half Time Message-ID: <32488D4E.6D87A820.0006AD18@aol.com> Thanks Mike,I owe you a drink at the next seminar!! Sad Rick > GAame Over...Nobody is allowed to make fun of Rick. > Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 21:11:02 -0800 From: "GEORGE ETUWE" To: wwi@mustang.sr.unh.edu Subject: Urgent Response Needed Message-ID: <200301270510.AAA68670@mustang.sr.unh.edu> FROM THE DESK OF DR=2E GEORGE ETUWE=2E DEAR SIR=2C WE ARE SENDING THIS LETTER TO YOU BASED ON INFORMATION GATHERED FROM THE FOREIGN TRADE OFFICE OF THE NIGERIAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND INDUSTRY=2E WE BELIEVE THAT YOU WOULD BE IN A POSITION TO HELP US IN OUR BID TO TRANSFER THE SUM OF FORTY-0NE MILLION=2C FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS =28$41=2E5M USD=29 INTO A FOREIGN ACCOUNT=2E WE ARE MEMBERS OF THE SPECIAL COMMITTEE FOR BUDGET AND PLANNING OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM=2C THIS COMMITTEE IS PRINCIPALLY CONCERNED WITH CONTRACT APPRAISALS AND APPROVAL OF CONTRACTS IN ORDER OF PRIORITIES AS REGARDS CAPITAL PROJECT OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF NIGERIA=2E WITH OUR POSITIONS=2C WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY SECURED FOR OURSELVES THE SUM OF FORTY-ONE MILLION=2C FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATE DOLLARS=28US$41=2E5M=29=2E THIS AMOUNT WAS ACCUMULATED THROUGH DELIBERATE OVER-INFLATION OF CONTRACT BY MY GROUP=2E WHAT WE NEED FROM YOU IS TO PROVIDE A SAFE ACCOUNT INTO WHICH THE FUNDS WILL BE TRANSFERRED SINCE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS ARE NOT ALLOWED BY OUR LAWS TO OPERATE FOREIGN ACCOUNT=2E IT HAS BEEN AGREED THAT THE OWNER OF THE ACCOUNT WILL BE COMPENSATED WITH US$8=2E3 MILLION OF THE REMITTED FUNDS=2C WE KEEP US$31=2E125MILLION WHILE US$2=2E075MILLION WILL BE SET ASIDE TO OFFSET EXPENSES AND PAY THE NECESSARY TAXES=2E IT MAY INTEREST YOU TO KNOW THAT TWO YEARS AGO A SIMILAR TRANSACTION WAS CARRIED OUT WITH ONE MR=2E PATRICE MILLER=2C THE PRESIDENT OF CRAINE INTERNATIONAL TRADING CORPORATION AT NUMBER 135=2C EAST 57TH STREET=2C 28TH FLOOR=2C NEW YORK 10022 WITH TELEPHONE =28212=29308-7788 AND TELEX NUMBER 6731689=2C AFTER THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN BOTH PARTNERS IN WHICH HE WAS TO TAKE 25% THE MONEY WAS DULY TRANSFERRED INTO HIS ACCOUNT ONLY TO BE DISAPPOINTED ON OUR ARRIVAL IN NEW YORK AS WE WERE RELIABLY INFORMED THAT MR=2E PATRICE MILLER WAS NO LONGER ON THAT ADDRESS WHILE HIS TELEPHONE AND TELEX NUMBERS HAVE BEEN REALLOCATED TO SOMEBODY ELSE=2C THAT IS HOW WE LOST US$27=2E5M TO MR PATRICE MILLER=2E THIS TIME AROUND WE NEED A MORE RELIABLE AND TRUSTWORTHY PERSON OR A REPUTABLE COMPANY TO DO BUSINESS WITH HENCE THIS LETTER TO YOU=2C SO IF YOU CAN PROVE YOURSELF TO BE TRUSTED AND INTERESTED IN THIS DEAL THEN WE ARE PREPARED TO DO BUSINESS WITH YOU=2E WHAT WE WANT FROM YOU IS THE ASSURANCE THAT YOU WILL LET US HAVE OUR SHARE WHEN THIS AMOUNT OF US$41=2E5M IS TRANSFERRED INTO YOUR ACCOUNT=2E IF THIS PROPOSAL SATISFIES YOU=2C PLEASE CONTACT ME THROUGH E-MAIL STATED ABOVE SO WE CAN ADVICE YOU ON THE MODALITIES OF THE TRANSACTION=2E ALL MODALITIES OF THE TRANSFER HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT AND ONCE STARTED WILL NOT TAKE MORE THAN 14 WORKING DAYS WITH THE ABSOLUTE SUPPORT OF ALL CONCERNED=2E THIS TRANSACTION IS 100% SAFE=2E PLEASE TREAT AS URGENT AND VERY CONFIDENTIAL=2E GOD BE WITH YOU AS I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR REPLY=2E BEST REGARDS=2E DR=2E GEORGE ETUWE=2E ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 00:13:37 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Fokker F.I (was Re: Re: Made out like a bandit) Message-ID: <200301270015_MC3-1-26F4-B7EE@compuserve.com> Matt, >> Actually everything that makes it an F.I vs. a Dr.I. << Thank you. That kit just went on the shelf for a while. Maybe down the road I will buy the Rosemont fix. Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 21:33:35 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The Voss cowl conspiracy - was Made out like a Message-ID: <104364605201@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com> RIC HT*H*OFEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Richtofen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 21:39:06 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Half Time Message-ID: <104364606201@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com> nyah nyah. . I won the stupid bowl pool .. next up., .. the Stanley Cup. Hockey. - the only game that matters Bob ---------- >From: "Steven Perry" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Half Time >Date: Sun, Jan 26, 2003, 5:03 pm > > TB 20 > OK 3 > Just don't "Buc Up" now. > sp > **************************************************************************** > ************************************** > There is something inherently warped about a society that forces it's > modelers to work for a living. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 23:56:33 -0600 (CST) From: jasta@webtv.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Cc: wwi@wwi-models.org (Multiple recipients of list) Subject: Voss cowl Message-ID: <11323-3E34CA11-9436@storefull-2177.public.lawson.webtv.net> There is a 56 Sq. combat report that describes the Voss triplane as being "yellow and brown". ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:18:24 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Voss cowl Message-ID: Whoever it is said: >There is a 56 Sq. combat report that describes the Voss triplane as >being "yellow and brown". Yes, and another saying blue and silver. Take your pick..... This has been done to death - for every bit of evidence one way, there's another for the other point of view. Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 09:50:31 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Bucs #1 Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B302990D28@TUFAO> Or even a SPAD..... ps > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven Perry [mailto:sperry03@tampabay.rr.com] > Sent: segunda-feira, 27 de Janeiro de 2003 3:21 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Bucs #1 > > > 27 years is a long time coming, why Matt could have built 2 Nieuports. > sp > ************************************************************** > ************** > ************************************** > There is something inherently warped about a society that forces it's > modelers to work for a living. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:06:49 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: A-model Nie IV Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B302990D75@TUFAO> Here's what Earl at NKR says: (you can see a photo of the box cover at his site) According to Amodel, the French Nieuport 1V was built in 1914, used by the Russians during WW1...and it was Russian pilot P.N.Nesterov who first performed a 'loop', while flying a Nieport 1V. The kit consists of 39 crisp, clean' short run injection moulded parts and a set of decals with markings for two aircraft...Russian and Swedish. The interior is very well detailed with the fuselage halves having the frame work moulded on all the way along. The cockpit comes with a fuel tank (on which the seat is mounted!), control stick, rudder bar and what appears to be an oil tank. The nicely moulded rotary engine is designed to turn with the propeller, while the complicated looking wheels/skid under carriage unit, is very finely moulded. The instruction sheet has a four view drawing which includes rigging. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:19:46 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: A-model Nie IV Message-ID: <005901c2c5ed$a1574f90$314e2dcb@future> I missed that one. Was blinded by the Roden Se5a. Thanks for pointing it out. Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Pedro N. Soares Sent: Monday, 27 January 2003 9:11 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] A-model Nie IV Here's what Earl at NKR says: (you can see a photo of the box cover at his site) According to Amodel, the French Nieuport 1V was built in 1914, used by the Russians during WW1...and it was Russian pilot P.N.Nesterov who first performed a 'loop', while flying a Nieport 1V. The kit consists of 39 crisp, clean' short run injection moulded parts and a set of decals with markings for two aircraft...Russian and Swedish. The interior is very well detailed with the fuselage halves having the frame work moulded on all the way along. The cockpit comes with a fuel tank (on which the seat is mounted!), control stick, rudder bar and what appears to be an oil tank. The nicely moulded rotary engine is designed to turn with the propeller, while the complicated looking wheels/skid under carriage unit, is very finely moulded. The instruction sheet has a four view drawing which includes rigging. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:06:57 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: RFC book Message-ID: Tom M. wrote: > Just finished one of the best OT books that I have read in a > couple of years: > > The Royal Flying Corps in World War I > by Ralph Barker, 1995, 2002, Constable & Robinson > ISBN 1-84119-470-0 > > A GREAT read, > snip This confirms my opinion that Ralph Barker is one of the best aviation authors in the business. I have his "Schneider Tropy" book, and it's the best I've read on that subject. I'll be keeping my eyes open for more of his work. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:22:40 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Art work of the Gavia Bristol Scout.. Message-ID: <005e01c2c5f6$6a8ce340$314e2dcb@future> http://www.karaya.ceti.pl/srednie/scout_profi.jpg Nice new art work to go with this Profi kit. Cheers Ross ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:32:00 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: A-model Nie IV Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B302990E18@TUFAO> I'll have to buy me one to make Nesterov's incredible aicraft cutting machine... Pedro > -----Original Message----- > From: Ross & Wendy Moorhouse [mailto:rossmoor@bigpond.net.au] > Sent: segunda-feira, 27 de Janeiro de 2003 10:21 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: A-model Nie IV > > > I missed that one. Was blinded by the Roden Se5a. Thanks for > pointing it > out. > > Cheers > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:21:51 +0100 From: Casirati Alberto To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Albatros C.I - bomb load Message-ID: Looking for a momentary change, and for a simple project which did not require any major kit surgery, I started work on the Albatros C.I vacuum-formed kit by Joystick. Spare time is always a BIG problem for me, so more ambitious projects (like the DH4 and the Anatra DS) had to be postponed for the moment. One thing which puzzles me is how the bombs, which were thrown by the observer through the two releasing tubes, were fastened inside his cockpit. Any idea or reliable reference source ? The WS Datafile is of no help in this respect... TIA, Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:27:34 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: A-model Nie IV Message-ID: <005f01c2c5f7$16e36330$314e2dcb@future> The link for the pic on Earl's site is dead for me. Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Pedro N. Soares Sent: Monday, 27 January 2003 10:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] RE: A-model Nie IV I'll have to buy me one to make Nesterov's incredible aicraft cutting machine... Pedro > -----Original Message----- > From: Ross & Wendy Moorhouse [mailto:rossmoor@bigpond.net.au] > Sent: segunda-feira, 27 de Janeiro de 2003 10:21 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: A-model Nie IV > > > I missed that one. Was blinded by the Roden Se5a. Thanks for > pointing it > out. > > Cheers > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 05:32:31 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: A-model Nie IV Message-ID: On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 06:24:35 -0500 (EST), Pedro N. Soares wrote: > I'll have to buy me one to make Nesterov's incredible aicraft cutting > machine... Oooo...good idea!! I would also like to model the MoS G (?) with the anchor. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:52:44 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Removing SNJ Message-ID: Does anyone know a good way of removing this horrible stuff? SNJ is good silver paint, but I made the mistake of polishing with the silver powder, I think it's boot polish, same as that old Rub'n'buff. I thought it might be a good undersurface before putting on kitchen foil, it wasn't, it's just messy and shows through lumpy beneath the foil. I can remove it with windscreen washer and polish, but I was just wondering if anyone knows a better way? Sorry this is a little ot, but it could have been a Sopwith cowling. /Neil C. nr: Avions nl: Jimmy Cliff nb. P38 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 08:18:28 -0400 From: "Clemente Balladares" To: Subject: RE: SE 5a in my hobby shop Message-ID: <2B1249EB720E7141B18BB3F151C8E9F024D69D@correo.marn.gov.ve> Grzegorz I envy you. I hope to buy this, and the Hispano engine version too (but have to wait...oh no:(, I remember, foreign currency control, My God). You are right the G of MacCudden look great. Italian version? I think you could check www.se5a.it this guy build a replica and have some history on this plane. Cheers Clem I�ll write you more on your mail: Interview with the son of a Luftwaffe pilot, last weekend -----Mensaje original----- De: Grzegorz Mazurowski [mailto:Grzegorz_Mazurowski@poczta.onet.pl] Enviado el: S�bado, 25 de Enero de 2003 12:18 p.m. Para: Multiple recipients of list Asunto: [WWI] SE 5a in my hobby shop Hi! It is real!!! I've seen it, I've even touched the plastic. Looks cool. But I'm still waiting for the HS version, as I want to make MacCudden's plane with "G" everywhere. G. BTW, did Italians use SE 5a? ***************r-e-k-l-a-m-a************** Chcesz oszczedzic na kosztach obslugi bankowej ? mBIZNES - konto dla firm http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbiznes ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 09:48:03 -0500 From: SSH To: Subject: Re: Spoked wheel qn/ans #2 Message-ID: <20030127144952.9BCE246417C@mail.mailsnare.net> Tom, Thanks for the detailed explanation of the process. I finally did understand most of it, ... I think. Using a .020 sq piece to align the parallel spokes was a brilliant idea! I am adapting some of your ideas for my wheel, and I will let you know how it turn out. Thanks again Sanjeev ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 09:16:21 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Albatros C.I - bomb load Message-ID: Alberto seeks: "...how the bombs... were fastened inside his cockpit." I seem to recall a picture of this arrangement for early Albatros, perhaps the C.III; it seems like there were open framework bins along the fuselage sides in which these were stored vertically. When the observer was ready, he would pick up the bomb, fuze it, and release it through the launching tubes. I will check this out tonight at home and advise tomorrow. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:36:29 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: RE: New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell Message-ID: <003801c2c619$dc69d2c0$c5ad72d4@FRITZweb> To be honest, that's the same problem with me. Eduard kits need mail order or extensive prayers to my local plastic dealer. Revell is available in all big supermarkets over here. Of course I would have prefered a DH2 (o.k. announced by Eduard, Roden ?), or a Camel, but I take what I can get. ( Reflex trained in the 1980'ies) Hans > --- Shane Weier wrote: > > It seems like you only got half of my point. Trying > > again - it's crucial > > that they *do* have a viable copy of a money > > spinner, because of issues to > > do with brand loyalty. > > > > Hmmmm... okay. I see what you mean. An Eduard > Dreidekker probably won't be as accesible to a younger > modeller than the Revell version will be. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:48:30 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: 5 color lozenge data Message-ID: <005001c2c61b$8a5c0be0$c5ad72d4@FRITZweb> It's a great work, Mark! What I don't understand is the difference between the 'Deutsches Museum' and the 'Halberstadt NASM/Oberschlei�heim' versions. Should it not be the same...? For Tarnstoff Data at all: I have learned in the last few weeks that the influence of the dope used over the Tarnstoff is heavily underestimated. This seems to be also one of the reason for quite different contrast of photographs of Tarnstoff covered aircraft. I do not understand it completely for the moment, but the Halberstadt is an example for the use of absolute clear dope which only deepens the colour, but left it unchanged in the hue. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:53:41 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: The Voss cowl conspiracy - was Made out like a Message-ID: <008601c2c61c$43daec80$c5ad72d4@FRITZweb> Richtofen, Eindekker, Balkankeruz, Eisern Kreutz, Werkenumber, Albatrose, Panzers ..... Hans ( Huns) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Pearson" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 6:42 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: The Voss cowl conspiracy - was Made out like a > RIC HT*H*OFEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > Richtofen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:54:06 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: New updates Message-ID: <200301271554.KAA72787@mustang.sr.unh.edu> New Modeler, Fernando Torre added to the gallery. Added a new Siemens Schukert model from Dan Hayward. Enjoy, Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 08:12:24 -0800 (PST) From: MARK MILLER To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: 5 color lozenge data Message-ID: <20030127161224.72066.qmail@web80008.mail.yahoo.com> Hans Trauner wrote :It's a great work, Mark!What I don't understand is the difference between the 'Deutsches Museum'and the 'Halberstadt NASM/Oberschlei�heim' versions. Should it not be thesame...? Hi Hans thanks. I'm not entirely sure which two samples you are refering to here. But, I tried to give the best derivation data I could. I had a couple of seperate sources that I believe were derived from the Deutsches Museum data. they were slightly different so, i made up samples for each. why... not sure, But any and all methods of interpreting and communicating color are falible (including eyeballs) As for differences in the various interpretations in general.... interesting, isn't it ;-) good news is. Dan San has a fabric sample that came off the aerleron of a Phalz. and, of course, it doesn't match any of the samples i have so far ;-) so I'll add it the article. Couple of other people have written as well with yet even more interpretations. which is just great as far as I'm concerned. "For Tarnstoff Data at all: I have learned in the last few weeks that theinfluence of the dope used over the Tarnstoff is heavily underestimated.This seems to be also one of the reason for quite different contrast ofphotographs of Tarnstoff covered aircraft.I do not understand it completely for the moment, but the Halberstadt is anexample for the use of absolute clear dope which only deepens the colour,but left it unchanged in the hue." Hans, when you get a clear idea on what you think the effect of the dope is on hue/lightness/saturation etc.. write me and I can try and make another sample. Think of it as a work in progress Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:54:25 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: New updates Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B3029913E7@TUFAO> > > > New Modeler, Fernando Torre added to the gallery. Again I'm amazed by your treatment of the old airfixes. Well done Fernando. > > Added a new Siemens Schukert model from Dan Hayward. Wow, too, Dan. Smashing prop, btw Pedro > > Enjoy, I did, I did... > Allan > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:01:33 -0600 From: "Patrick H Lewis" To: Subject: digest Message-ID: <001a01c2c625$bfd397c0$0c27a3d1@u00t2> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C2C5F3.73D10C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable set wwi mail digest end ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C2C5F3.73D10C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C2C5F3.73D10C40-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:18:26 -0500 From: rewing@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Removing SNJ Message-ID: <1EF9420B.7B626A99.0006AD18@aol.com> Neil, You can go directly to the source with this question. Contact Scott Bell, the maker of SNJ, at SnJmodprod@AOL.com. He belongs to the same IPMS club I belong to. If there is a way to do it, he would know. HTH, ~Rick~ > Does anyone know a good way of removing this horrible stuff? > SNJ is good silver paint, but I made the mistake of polishing with > the silver powder, I think it's boot polish, same as that old Rub'n'buff. > I thought it might be a good undersurface before putting on kitchen foil, > it wasn't, it's just messy and shows through lumpy beneath the foil. > I can remove it with windscreen washer and polish, but I was just > wondering if anyone knows a better way? > Sorry this is a little ot, but it could have been a Sopwith > cowling. > /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:05:07 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Removing SNJ Message-ID: <200301271805.NAA75527@mustang.sr.unh.edu> You can try an overnight soak in pine-sol - that disolves most paint and is plastic safe (although I'm not sure about resin's toughness against it) Al > > Neil, > You can go directly to the source with this question. Contact Scott Bell, the maker of SNJ, at SnJmodprod@AOL.com. He belongs to the same IPMS club I belong to. If there is a way to do it, he would know. > HTH, > ~Rick~ > > > Does anyone know a good way of removing this horrible stuff? > > SNJ is good silver paint, but I made the mistake of polishing with > > the silver powder, I think it's boot polish, same as that old Rub'n'buff. > > I thought it might be a good undersurface before putting on kitchen foil, > > it wasn't, it's just messy and shows through lumpy beneath the foil. > > I can remove it with windscreen washer and polish, but I was just > > wondering if anyone knows a better way? > > Sorry this is a little ot, but it could have been a Sopwith > > cowling. > > /Neil C. > =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:29:56 -0600 (CST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: New at the Roden Site Message-ID: <200301271829.h0RITuc89578@king1.kingsnake.com> Looks like Roden has an in-house modeler, as there are images of a completed SE5a in their Gallery. You can see the decals for the "pulley areas" in the wings, and I think I agree with Shane (shock!). The decals just don't look "right". However, how would one go about modeling this? Do you think you would scrape out the area, add a "faux pulley and wire", then fill with Kleer, or...? Is it worth the trouble? Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 05:57:31 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: New at the Roden Site Message-ID: <000a01c2c635$f50de4d0$314e2dcb@future> Oh dear they do look bad. The cockpit detail looks ok though. At least it's got the shelf thingy in there. Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Matt Bittner Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2003 5:47 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] New at the Roden Site Looks like Roden has an in-house modeler, as there are images of a completed SE5a in their Gallery. You can see the decals for the "pulley areas" in the wings, and I think I agree with Shane (shock!). The decals just don't look "right". However, how would one go about modeling this? Do you think you would scrape out the area, add a "faux pulley and wire", then fill with Kleer, or...? Is it worth the trouble? Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:44:16 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: New at the Roden Site Message-ID: Matt asks the musical question about those pulley windows on the SE5a: "Is it worth the trouble?" Believe it or not, I actually built a 1/72 SE5a in years past (it lost to Mike Fritz's DH2 in the 1983 IPMS Nationals, parenthetically). In the course of that build, I did file little triangular holes in the wing and stick in pulleys, and it was NOT worth the trouble - too hard to keep them of even sizes and shapes in freehand sanding.. I eventually scrapped the approach and used black decal slivers, which were infinitely more gratifying to the eye. If Roden supplies ones that are too large, cannot they be shrunk to size with three strokes of the knife? Or new ones made with decal film that ARE the right size, albeit without the little picture of the pulley? Lance ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4953 **********************