WWI Digest 4952 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Rev Off Topic Armor (was Re: RE: New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by by Sean Brian Kirby 2) Re: Kids modelling WAS: New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell by Sean Brian Kirby 3) RE: New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell by Sean Brian Kirby 4) Re: 5 color lozenge data by RadspadMike@netscape.net 5) RE: Applying a Dull Coat / SS D.III by "John Ernst" 6) Re: The Voss cowl conspiracy - was Made out like a bandit by Ray 7) RE: RFC book by RadspadMike@netscape.net 8) Re: Mirage announces many OT kits by "Mike Muth" 9) Re: Made out like a bandit by "Mike Muth" 10) Fokker F.I (was Re: Re: Made out like a bandit) by "Matt Bittner" 11) Re: Eugene Bullard by "Mike Muth" 12) Re: Bulgarian aircraft of wwi by "Mike Muth" 13) Re: Applying a Dull Coat by "Shane Weier" 14) Re: The Voss cowl conspiracy - was Made out like a bandit by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 15) Re: Roden SE5a by "Shane Weier" 16) Half Time by "Steven Perry" 17) Re: Half Time by REwing@aol.com 18) Re: The Voss cowl conspiracy - was Made out like a bandit by Ray 19) Re: Half Time by "Steven Perry" 20) Re: Voss Cowl Conspiracy by "Kenneth Zelnick" 21) RE: New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell by "Shane Weier" 22) Re: Half Time by "Mike Muth" 23) Bucs #1 by "Steven Perry" 24) Re: The Voss cowl conspiracy - was Made out like a bandit by janah@att.net 25) Good book - changing the Voss subject by Ray 26) RE: New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell by Zulis@aol.com 27) Breguet XIV A2 ""PHOTO Version ? by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 28) Re: Half Time by REwing@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 12:37:05 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Rev Off Topic Armor (was Re: RE: New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Message-ID: <20030126203705.57237.qmail@web14810.mail.yahoo.com> --- Shane Weier wrote: > You really *are* bucking for position of list > heretic aren't you ? So shot me, Shane. Oh, wait - you don't know where I live. :p I can say but one thing in my defense - I didn't bring it up. :) Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 12:42:25 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Kids modelling WAS: New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell Message-ID: <20030126204225.5434.qmail@web14809.mail.yahoo.com> --- Shane Weier wrote: As I type this one of the girls > is masking along the > edges of a seam on a (gack - suck and blow aircraft) > preparatory to puttying > the seam. 'Tis better than no models at all, eh? :) > BEST of all - both girls have claimed superseded > Testors Nieuport 17 kits > from my stash as next builds. they want to try a > model(Chloes words - "a > real aeroplane") with rigging. Sounds like a friendly introduction to the world of World War One modelling. Nice old kit, lovely plane. Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 12:54:20 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell Message-ID: <20030126205420.23641.qmail@web14803.mail.yahoo.com> --- Shane Weier wrote: > It seems like you only got half of my point. Trying > again - it's crucial > that they *do* have a viable copy of a money > spinner, because of issues to > do with brand loyalty. Hmmmm... okay. I see what you mean. An Eduard Dreidekker probably won't be as accesible to a younger modeller than the Revell version will be. And if someone likes Revell kits, they like Revell kits. (My Dad swore by Monogram kits, when he was a boy, because of their sure fit.) But I believe brand-loyalty is less of a factor among newer - or more grown-up - modellers than it once was. If you want great fit and detail, you can get that from Tamiya, Eduard, Revellogram... there are plenty of good kits out there. Are there any here among us who are what one could call "brand-loyal?" I knew one guy like that - and it kinda' cost him an in-industry job. No one manufacturer is the only game in town, and there are enough modelling magazines out there to make that abundantly clear. I do believe bad reputations are very strong in the industry, though. We know which brands to buy, and those we like to avoid. Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:07:17 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: 5 color lozenge data Message-ID: <745A8C7E.0A2CE2C7.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Mark, Sorry for the late reply . . . have been out of town. This is really good stuff and helps to focus my thoughts and feelings on the subject. Many thanks, Mike Kavanaugh Mark wrote: >> Hi all >> I just added an article I put together on the various >> interpretations of the 5 color lozenge scheme. >> >> http://www.wwi-models.org/misc/Colors/German/loz2/index.html >> >> I was hopeing to be able to come up with something >> definitive, but, as many here could have predicted. >> was not succsesful. >> I even tried interpreting bw photo data. >> what a mess, couldn't make any sense of it at all. >> >> But, FWIW, I decided that the colors used on the >> Halberstadt restoration were "best" >> No solid evidence to support this conclusion >> just a hunch ;-) >> Mark >> >> > __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:06:04 -0500 From: "John Ernst" To: Subject: RE: Applying a Dull Coat / SS D.III Message-ID: > > Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:00:59 +0000 > From: pfalzdvii@att.net > To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Subject: Re: Applying a Dull Coat > Message-ID: <20030126170100.MDNM9286.mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net@mtiwebc18> > > John, BE CAREFUL Krylon dries slowly and has solvents that will > eat plastic, > and most other paints; keep the coats light/dry, and hope the > Krylon doesn't > crack the undercoats. > FWIW > Thanks everyone for the direction on the dull coat. I'll send pics to be posted soon - before the Krylon eats the undercoats :-) ...thanks for the heads up on that. I really "punked out" on this one. Not only did I NOT use losenge decals, I didn't add any rigging either. I tried to capture that moment in time right before Udet's red wings were changed to losenge pattern. Who knows, maybe about a week or so? Oh well...I'm having fun. john ernst > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 14:21:26 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org, Sean Brian Kirby Subject: Re: The Voss cowl conspiracy - was Made out like a bandit Message-ID: <200301261421.26979.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> Rodens version is fiction imho. The Roden cowl scheme is wrong for Voss he wasnt in Jatsa 11 so why would he have a red cowl. As far as the two most popular theories go. They being Yellow or strandard olive green both with the Japanese fighting kite face. There is also a theory that the yellow rudder held by the IWM was from Voss's F1. Supposedly some parts including a rudder were salvaged from Voss's machine and sent to Rhy's David of 56 squadron. After Rhys David was killed his family donated the parts to the IWM. The problem is there are no records at the IWM that link the rudder they have to the one donated. Yellow was the colour for Jasta 10 btw which is why some think Voss's aircraft had a yellow cowl. Yellow shows up dark by the way on some films in use at the time. Green has been suggested because that was the colour the cowl came from the factory in. That way all they did was paint on the Japanese fighting kite face. Those are the theories in a nutshell, now I am running for cover. Ray On Sunday 26 January 2003 12:30, Sean Brian Kirby wrote: > --- Ray wrote: > > Lol good one Knut, > > There is a an easy solution to this problem, just > > build two; One with a > > yellow cowl and one with an olive green cowl. > > The Roden instructions instruct you to paint it a dark > red - what's up with that? > > > Sean ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:30:45 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: RFC book Message-ID: <718866A6.5592B5CF.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Thanks, Tom, I just found a copy to add to my library. Mike Kavanaugh Morg17ms@aol.com wrote: > >--part1_160.1ab7a8e7.2b64b5db_boundary >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Just finished one of the best OT books that I have read in a couple of years: > > The Royal Flying Corps in World War I > by Ralph Barker, 1995, 2002, Constable & Robinson > ISBN 1-84119-470-0 > >A GREAT read, all 500 pages of it - goes very quickly and is delightfully >written. Learned more than a few new things OT and I highly recommend it. >My copy is paper back and well worth the price. Much insight into the >operation and daily life/death of the RFC (not RNAS) at all levels. I was >especially glad to see a lot of emphasis on those aircraft and crew who were >NOT scouts - didn't have to be 'glorious' to be interesting and heroic. > >Tom Morgan > >--part1_160.1ab7a8e7.2b64b5db_boundary >Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Just finished one of the best OT books that I have read in a couple of years:
>
> The Royal Flying Corps in World War I
> by Ralph Barker, 1995, 2002, Constable & Robinson
> ISBN 1-84119-470-0
>
>A GREAT read, all 500 pages of it - goes very quickly and is delightfully written. Learned more than a few new things OT and I highly recommend it. My copy is paper back and well worth the price. Much insight into the operation and daily life/death of the RFC (not RNAS) at all levels. I was especially glad to see a lot of emphasis on those aircraft and crew who were NOT scouts - didn't have to be 'glorious' to be interesting and heroic.
>
>Tom Morgan > >--part1_160.1ab7a8e7.2b64b5db_boundary-- > __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 18:23:10 -0500 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Mirage announces many OT kits Message-ID: <006101c2c591$e4768ea0$fad8bacc@ptdprolog.net> > Nice ot stuff for all you duplo scale builders. The ot W*ld**ts will be heading > my way if they are as good as the Mirage stuff I've seen > > Dave Fleming Shhhh, Dave, they'll find out about us. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 18:24:10 -0500 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Made out like a bandit Message-ID: <006c01c2c592$0813af00$fad8bacc@ptdprolog.net> Sean Let me know when you heading up there. If it is on Saturday, maybe I can meet you there. Mike Muth ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean Brian Kirby To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 2:28 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Made out like a bandit > > --- Dennis Ugulano wrote: > I did pick up the Eduard Fokker F.1. Now I > > can join the Voss > > discussion on cowl color. Will it be green or will > > it be yellow. What to > > do, oh , what to do. > > > Go get yourself a can of Tamiya Chrome Yellow. :) But > don't spray it on the kit cowl; get yourself Barry's > cool little F.1 correction set from Rosemont. In fact, > I think I am going up there, next week. (I love the > drive.) > > > Sean > > ===== > www.pitpass.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:24:54 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Fokker F.I (was Re: Re: Made out like a bandit) Message-ID: On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 15:22:21 -0500 (EST), Dennis Ugulano wrote: > Sigh, I guess I didn't follow or see the message that the Eduard > kit has a problem. It looks like a beautiful out of the box kit. What > needs to be fixed? Actually everything that makes it an F.I vs. a Dr.I. Ailerons are wrong in the Eduard kit for the F.I (Rosemont gives you a whole new upper wing), cowl shape and finally the horizontal tail. Don't look to Roden, either. They only thing they "fixed" were the ailerons, the cowl and horizontal tail are still in error. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 18:29:55 -0500 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Eugene Bullard Message-ID: <008901c2c592$d5ceeb80$fad8bacc@ptdprolog.net> From: Sean Brian Kirby > > > Anyone have a source for profiles of anything American > > pilot and French war-hero Eugene Bullard flew? OTF did an article on him a few years ago. There was a collage on the front cover iirc. Go to the Over The Front web page and you might be able to pull up the article. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 18:33:30 -0500 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Bulgarian aircraft of wwi Message-ID: <009801c2c593$55c78a40$fad8bacc@ptdprolog.net> I picked up Vol. 2 this summer from Aeroplane books in Va. Vol. I didn't look too interesting. Vol. II is pretty interesting...a fair amount of info on balloons as well as a history of the air force. Kind of weird regarding fighters. They seem to have gone from Halb. D's to Fokker DVII's! Mike Muth > I just got a catalog from www.scholarsbookshelf.com that had all 4 volumes > of those books for $15 each. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:38:03 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Applying a Dull Coat Message-ID: Michael > >The photos in datafile 29 show mostly very glossy aircraft. In >scale, >you should probably paint it a fairly shiny satin. > >As you imply, maybe in 1/48th scale but in 1/72nd scale, less so. > Plus, as you mentioned previously, flatter surfaces hide flaws. What Michael? I didn't think you'd have the need ;-) True of course - the missing words to make my statement precise are "the one true" and fit between "in" and "scale" I never realised he'd be using the old Toko/Eastern Express kit and not a real one :-) Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 00:39:52 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: The Voss cowl conspiracy - was Made out like a bandit Message-ID: <1043627992.3e347fd80e85a@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Ray : > > Those are the theories in a nutshell, now I am running for cover. > > Ray there is a variation - the cowls came from the Factory in natural metal, and were painted 'on site' - Red for MvR's F1. Yellow for Voss Dave Fleming ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:41:03 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Roden SE5a Message-ID: Matt >Those traingular access hatches on the wings and tails for the >pulleys? Not only are the "triangular" portions raised detail, >but Roden also supplies black decals, with small "pulley and >wire" shapes inside to give the appearance of the pulleys and >wires. Not sure how it would look, but it's definitely a great >idea. I mentioned these a week or so ago from the photos on the web page and at the time thought they were probably way overscale - but until I get the kit can't tell for sure. Excellent idea IMO but.... Just how big are they? Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:03:44 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Half Time Message-ID: <002b01c2c59f$f101e3a0$65a8a8c0@tampabay.rr.com> TB 20 OK 3 Just don't "Buc Up" now. sp **************************************************************************** ************************************** There is something inherently warped about a society that forces it's modelers to work for a living. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:16:37 EST From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Half Time Message-ID: <1cc.e6598b.2b65e275@aol.com> --part1_1cc.e6598b.2b65e275_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit GO RAIDERS!!!!!!! > TB 20 > OK 3 > Just don't "Buc Up" now. > sp > --part1_1cc.e6598b.2b65e275_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!

TB 20
OK  3
Just don't "Buc Up" now.
sp


 --part1_1cc.e6598b.2b65e275_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 18:00:42 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org, xtv16@dial.pipex.com Subject: Re: The Voss cowl conspiracy - was Made out like a bandit Message-ID: <200301261800.42412.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> I dont know about this one. Supposedly F102/17 was handed over to Richtofen in late august. There is a photo taken on August 31 1917 at Marckbeke with Tony Fokker in the cockpit about to demonstrate it. The cowl is painted. Not sure if its red or green. Of course 15 days later F102/17 was lost in combat whilst being flown by kurt Wolfe. Supposedly there is no evidence any red paint went near it. 101/17 did have a silver cowl and was tested to destruction early in August. There are 4 pictures of this aircraft in "Richtofen" by AE Ferko. of course the cowl looks the same colour as the fuselage next to it. But we know this doesnt mean a thing. ;) Hehe dont you love the vagueness of this stuff. Oh Voss's aircraft lasted 8 days more than 102/17 it was shot down on Sep 23rd. Just to really fan the flames pictures of 102/17 and 103/17's wheel covers and cowls look awfully similiar in tone to each other ;) lol running real fast for a trench. Ray On Sunday 26 January 2003 16:41, xtv16@dial.pipex.com wrote: > > there is a variation - the cowls came from the Factory in natural metal, > and were painted 'on site' - Red for MvR's F1. Yellow for Voss > > Dave Fleming ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 21:00:59 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Half Time Message-ID: <003301c2c5a7$f0304220$65a8a8c0@tampabay.rr.com> TB 33 OK 3 How 'bout dem Bucs Rick? > GO RAIDERS!!!!!!! > > > TB 20 > > OK 3 > > Just don't "Buc Up" now. > > sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:03:04 -0800 From: "Kenneth Zelnick" To: Subject: Re: Voss Cowl Conspiracy Message-ID: <001501c2c5b8$fe7aa4e0$6401a8c0@coxinternet.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C2C575.F00B19A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ray wrote: >You could mount both on a=20 >plaque and take them to model shows with a card outlining the problem = and the=20 >years of argument and a sheet asking for guesses. You realize this could cause fist fights. What are you doing, trying to = start a hockey game? ;) Ken Zelnick ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C2C575.F00B19A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ray wrote:
 
>You could mount both on a =
>plaque and=20 take them to model shows with a card outlining the problem and the =
>years=20 of argument and a sheet asking for guesses.
 
You realize this could cause fist = fights. =20 What are you doing, trying to start a hockey game? ;)
 
Ken Zelnick
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C2C575.F00B19A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:07:36 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell Message-ID: Sean >If you want great fit and >detail, you can get that from Tamiya, Eduard, >Revellogram... Dunno, I never built an OT Tamiya kit..... >Are there any here among us who are what one >could call "brand-loyal?" Go look at Hyperstale or r.m.s. You'll easily find hundreds of modellers who'll accept anything Tamiya or Hasegawa gives them - even when beautifully moulded but palpably inaccurate. Not so much of that round here though. >I do believe bad reputations are very strong in the >industry, though. We know which brands to buy, and >those we like to avoid. Yes, and they often have as little cause to be hated as the likes of Tamiya has to loved uncritically. Roden is a byword for illfitting even "unbuildable" crap for many on Hyperscale for example. However, I know exactly what youi mean. It raises my hackles to see people bagging Airfix for producing crappy kits without any acknowledgement that most are 1060's and 1970's products nor making any allowance for the style of production that entails. Brings too much to mind the modern PC habit of judging the actions of historical characters by modern standards rather than as people of their time and environment, and altogether risks missing the value of what you see before you Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 22:20:12 -0500 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Half Time Message-ID: <00db01c2c5b3$01b5ba60$fad8bacc@ptdprolog.net> GAame Over...Nobody is allowed to make fun of Rick. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 22:19:52 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Bucs #1 Message-ID: <004501c2c5b2$f5453800$65a8a8c0@tampabay.rr.com> 27 years is a long time coming, why Matt could have built 2 Nieuports. sp **************************************************************************** ************************************** There is something inherently warped about a society that forces it's modelers to work for a living. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 03:25:47 +0000 From: janah@att.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The Voss cowl conspiracy - was Made out like a bandit Message-ID: <3E308DB9001110DF@mta3.wss.scd.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) Precisely! Cyg. > > Just to really fan the flames pictures of 102/17 and 103/17's wheel covers and > cowls look awfully similiar in tone to each other ;) lol running real fast > for a trench. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 19:54:37 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Good book - changing the Voss subject Message-ID: <200301261954.37544.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> I had to take my son to the public library yesterday, he had some books to go back and it was the last day before he would have been fined. Normally SWMBO takes him on weekdays so I haven't been to the local library in a year or two. Anyway the local library in White Rock is a bit pitiful for OT books, actually its pretty pitiful for all books but we wont go there. The library seems to have got a few interesting books since my last visit. I found Dreadnought which was mentioned earlier this week and another book that I have seen mentioned before called "To the Last Man - Spring 1918" by Lyn MacDonald. So far I haven't been able to put it down. The style is pretty good as in factual history with loads and loads of letters and quotes from the men involved at all ranks. If you see this book around, its a really good book. It might change your oppinion of what happened in the Spring of 1918 if nothing else. Ray ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 23:20:59 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: New tooling for the 1/72 Dr I by Revell Message-ID: <7f.31a2acad.2b660dab@aol.com> --part1_7f.31a2acad.2b660dab_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/26/2003 10:08:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, bristolf2b@hotmail.com writes: > Airfix > for producing crappy kits without any acknowledgement that most are 1060's > and 1970's products Now I know who makes all those cool Battle of Hastings figures... :-) As for the rest, I couldnt agree more, Shane. DZ (who is mourning the SuperBowl disaster) --part1_7f.31a2acad.2b660dab_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/26/2003 10:08:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, bristolf2b@hotmail.com writes:


Airfix
for producing crappy kits without any acknowledgement that most are 1060's
and 1970's products


Now I know who makes all those cool Battle of Hastings figures...
:-)

As for the rest, I couldnt agree more, Shane.

DZ 
(who is mourning the SuperBowl disaster)
 --part1_7f.31a2acad.2b660dab_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 23:47:41 EST From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Breguet XIV A2 ""PHOTO Version ? Message-ID: <1c1.40c5577.2b6613ed@aol.com> --part1_1c1.40c5577.2b6613ed_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI TECH Aircraft kits (injection) HIT48XIV 1:48 "Breguet XIV A2 ""PHOTO Version? Any one have this kit, is it called the Photo version because it was used to take reconnaissance photo's? If so, does it have the camera (s) included? Also if you do have the kit what are your thoughts on it? Thanks Best regards, Jon --part1_1c1.40c5577.2b6613ed_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI TECH
Aircraft kits (injection)
HIT48XIV 1:48 "Breguet XIV A2 ""PHOTO Version?

Any one have this kit, is it called the Photo version because it was used to take
reconnaissance photo's? If so, does it have the camera (s) included? Also if you do have the kit what are your thoughts on it? Thanks

                                           Best regards,
                                                    Jon --part1_1c1.40c5577.2b6613ed_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 00:05:52 EST From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Half Time Message-ID: <1e7.61807e.2b661830@aol.com> --part1_1e7.61807e.2b661830_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I meant: GO BUCS!!!!! TB 33 OK 3 How 'bout dem Bucs Rick? >GO RAIDERS!!!!!!! > >>TB 20 >>OK 3 >>Just don't "Buc Up" now. >>sp --part1_1e7.61807e.2b661830_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I meant:  GO BUCS!!!!!

TB 33
OK 3
How 'bout dem Bucs Rick?

>GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!
>
>>TB 20
>>OK  3
>>Just don't "Buc Up" now.
>>sp


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