WWI Digest 4951 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Site update: Nieuport build progress by Eric GALLAUD 2) Re: New Rodens by "NEIL EDDY" 3) Re: New Rodens by "Shane Weier" 4) Re: Made out like a bandit by Dennis Ugulano 5) Re: Made out like a bandit by Ray 6) Re: Made out like a bandit by "Shane Weier" 7) Re: Mirage announces many OT kits by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 8) Accounting and Computer Service by no@body.com 9) Re: Applying a Dull Coat by "John Ernst" 10) Re: Applying a Dull Coat by "Shane Weier" 11) Re: Applying a Dull Coat by "Michael Kendix" 12) Re: 5 color lozenge data by MARK MILLER 13) Roden SE5a by "Matt Bittner" 14) Re: Applying a Dull Coat by "Pedro Soares" 15) Re: 5 color lozenge data by MARK MILLER 16) The Voss cowl conspiracy - was Made out like a bandit by knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 17) Re: Applying a Dull Coat by pfalzdvii@att.net 18) Re: OT RN Monitors by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 19) Re: New Rodens by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 20) HR models in future by "Marek Mincbergr" 21) re: HR models in future by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 22) Re: The Voss cowl conspiracy - was Made out like a bandit by Ray 23) Re: Applying a Dull Coat by Ray 24) re: HR models in future by "Steven Perry" 25) Re: OT RN Monitors by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 26) chatbox by Clay W Fulcher 27) Re: Made out like a bandit by Dennis Ugulano 28) Re: The Voss cowl conspiracy - was Made out like a bandit by Sean Brian Kirby 29) Re: 5 color lozenge data by "Pedro Soares" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 05:56:25 +0100 From: Eric GALLAUD To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Site update: Nieuport build progress Message-ID: <3E336A79.6040400@club-internet.fr> Really nice Nieuport (yes, I know, a Nieuport is always nice but yours is stunning) I want to see more pictures !!! Eric ot811 a 嶰rit: >Pedro Soares sends in more build progress photos of his Nieuport. >See >http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Soares/Nieuport/index.html >or news. >Allan, > I think I clobbered your update to the news file. I hope I fixed >it. >regards >Sanjeev > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:46:45 +1100 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: New Rodens Message-ID: <000d01c2c4fe$503ce2e0$a6d932d2@default> These Se5a's sound great....but....Will they do an Se5 variant? Ever Hopeful Neil E (Land O' Blowflies) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 15:52:46 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New Rodens Message-ID: Hi Neil, >These Se5a's sound great....but....Will they do an Se5 variant? Likely, they don't seem to have missed any opportunity with the D.VII or Albatrosses. Have you read Earls review? He made much of the "inaccurate" wheels because they have raised spokes and he assumed they should be uncovered and would be better moulded in clear and drybrushed. Earl is a great bloke, but he's leading people astray somewhat! I sent him a pic of a real Se-5a wheel with the characteristic raised spoke lines in the fabric.... Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 01:03:48 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Made out like a bandit Message-ID: <200301260104_MC3-1-269C-26AB@compuserve.com> Shane, >> 7. Build yours however you like! 8. If you wish to argue about it, go offlist or over to the other WW1 site where there's always plenty of ego stroking waiting to reemerge << I plan on following your advise to the letter especially # 7 and 8. I will build it as I like and I will not engage in any flame war on or off line. It's not worth the hassle. I could have another model built by the time the war is over. Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 23:35:49 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org, Dennis Ugulano Subject: Re: Made out like a bandit Message-ID: <200301252335.49244.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> Best solution to this that would yeild a real nice diorama is to build it without the cowl, place a placard over the detailed engine saying cowl at painters (in German of course). As to #8, well hey thats why we make a big joke of it here with the vegemite pink and yellow spots and such. Its not worth arguing about and no one can ever prove it either way. So until someone builds a time machine, we all will have our own pet theories that no amount of supposed proof will refute. I think it was green and yellow stripes myself, yah just cant see it in the film. Ray ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:39:52 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Made out like a bandit Message-ID: Uggie > I will build it as I like and I will not engage in any flame war on or >off >line. It's not worth the hassle. I could have another model built by the >time the war is over. LOL - You must know something I don't because IMO the war will never be over on that one! Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 11:15:08 +0100 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: Re: Mirage announces many OT kits Message-ID: Dear List, I have talked with the Mirage guys yesterday. They have confirmed, that all of those models will be released in 2003 and 2004. The models are being prepared as 3d objects in a CAD/CAM environment and the molds will be milled by the cnc machines. Thus I hope the quality will be not worse than that of Eduard/Trumpeter/Tamigawa. In 2003 the PZL 23 and Wildcat series should be released, while the next year will bring the Flying Fortress as their priority project. The OT stuff will be released simultaneously. They have many associated 3d modelers thus the design of the -ot- kits won't cause any delays to Fokkers or two-seaters. Tomasz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 07:16:04 -0500 (EST) From: no@body.com To: HONG.KONG.COMMERCIAL.EMAIL, Aolcomhk, Cti, Ctimail3, Hkabcnet, Hknetcom, Subject: Accounting and Computer Service Message-ID: <200301261216.HAA62892@mustang.sr.unh.edu> 三盈顧問有限公司 Tripro Consultant Limited Emil: triproconsutant@hotmail.com Tel: 8205 0128 Fax: 2205 0128 會計服務 1. 按月入帳埋數 : 代客編製傳票、開各類帳簿及總帳等以符合稅局要求， 每月用電腦入帳，列印出試算表、損益表、資產負債表及總帳報表等。 …………………………………………………………………..$500/月起 2. 年結及核數 : 每年代客做帳，盤點，報稅及員工薪俸稅表…..等 …………………………………………………………………$2,000/年起 3. 代客核數查帳: 安排有限公司一切核數事宜及呈報利得稅表。 ………………………………………………………………….$6,000/年起 4. 成立公司: 代客成立有限公司，可代為改名，代做董事，送原子印一個。 ………………………………………………………………….$3,500起 5. 代報週年報表: 呈報有限公司週年報表，辦理股東董事變更手績等。 ……………………………………………………………………$700/年起 6. 結束公司: 辦理有限公司結束盤及除名等。 …………………………………………………………………..$4,000起 電腦服務 1. 免費檢查: 免費電腦檢查，找出Hang機•不能Boot機•慢機原因。 ………………………………………………………………………..免費 2. 安裝電腦: 代客購買零件，自組電腦，Upgrade，改機超頻。 ………………………………………………………………………$300/台起 3. 上門教授: 由初階至專業，不懂電腦至網絡應用，專人上門教授。 ………………………………………………………………………$100/時起 4. 網頁設計: 公司網頁，個人網頁，團體網頁，代申請網址，提供儲存空間及電郵服務。 …….…………………………………………………………………$500/頁起 5. 電腦維修: 專業技工，電腦維修，保養計劃。 ………………………………………………………………….$500/台年 起 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 07:42:17 -0500 From: "John Ernst" To: "wwi list" Subject: Re: Applying a Dull Coat Message-ID: I'm getting ready to apply a "dull coat" to my SS D.III. Should the finish be truely "flat / matt", or shouls it be more of a "satin / semi-gloss"? I use "Krylon" Satin clear coat on my stick and tissue models. I'm going to try Krylon on the plastic to see how it works. Thanks. john ernst ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 22:53:44 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Applying a Dull Coat Message-ID: John >I'm getting ready to apply a "dull coat" to my SS D.III. Should the >finish >be truely "flat / matt", or shouls it be more of a "satin / >semi-gloss"? > >I use "Krylon" Satin clear coat on my stick and tissue models. I'm going to >try Krylon on the plastic to see how it works. The photos in datafile 29 show mostly very glossy aircraft. In scale, you should probably paint it a fairly shiny satin. That's IMO of course - YMMV Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** >From: "John Ernst" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: Applying a Dull Coat >Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 07:47:09 -0500 (EST) > > >Thanks. > >john ernst _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:29:46 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Applying a Dull Coat Message-ID: >From: "Shane Weier" >The photos in datafile 29 show mostly very glossy aircraft. In scale, >you >should probably paint it a fairly shiny satin. As you imply, maybe in 1/48th scale but in 1/72nd scale, less so. Plus, as you mentioned previously, flatter surfaces hide flaws. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 05:54:05 -0800 (PST) From: MARK MILLER To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: 5 color lozenge data Message-ID: <20030126135405.31355.qmail@web80007.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Merril Thanks for the comments If anybody has additional data - please send it to me and I will add it to the rest I should mention that the purple/green color at the bottom of the page are extremly questionable. They are derived from Munsell numbers Greg Van Wyngarden sent me and he did not know where they came from or how they were derived, so made no claims as to their accuracy. I never liked those colors and did not use them on any of my maps. I will add some alternatives. I believe that no actual samples of the purple green camo exist - so it's open to interpretation Mark --- pfalzdvii@att.net wrote: > > Wow! Mark, I should never be amazed at what you can > do, but that was fantastic, > thoughtful, too Many Thanks > -- > Merrill > Your Madness May Vary > > Hi all > > I just added an article I put together on the > various > > interpretations of the 5 color lozenge scheme. > > > > > http://www.wwi-models.org/misc/Colors/German/loz2/index.html > > > > I was hopeing to be able to come up with something > > definitive, but, as many here could have > predicted. > > was not succsesful. > > I even tried interpreting bw photo data. > > what a mess, couldn't make any sense of it at all. > > > > But, FWIW, I decided that the colors used on the > > Halberstadt restoration were "best" > > No solid evidence to support this conclusion > > just a hunch ;-) > > Mark > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 08:11:23 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Roden SE5a Message-ID: I forgot to mention the decals as well, IRT the Roden SE5a. Those traingular access hatches on the wings and tails for the pulleys? Not only are the "triangular" portions raised detail, but Roden also supplies black decals, with small "pulley and wire" shapes inside to give the appearance of the pulleys and wires. Not sure how it would look, but it's definitely a great idea. Also on the decal sheet is a decal for the main instrument panel. Excellent. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:47:27 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Applying a Dull Coat Message-ID: <004101c2c55a$9c4b3c20$51fb16d5@netcabo.pt> I'd go for Satin, John. That's the way I finish all my WW1 models: a coat of humbrol semi matt varnish. HTH Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 12:55 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Applying a Dull Coat > John > > >I'm getting ready to apply a "dull coat" to my SS D.III. Should the >finish > >be truely "flat / matt", or shouls it be more of a "satin / > >semi-gloss"? > > > >I use "Krylon" Satin clear coat on my stick and tissue models. I'm going to > >try Krylon on the plastic to see how it works. > > The photos in datafile 29 show mostly very glossy aircraft. In scale, you > should probably paint it a fairly shiny satin. > > That's IMO of course - YMMV > > Shane > > > > > > ******************************** > > My Strine is a Toad in Disguise > > > ******************************** > > > > > > >From: "John Ernst" > >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > >To: Multiple recipients of list > >Subject: [WWI] Re: Applying a Dull Coat > >Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 07:47:09 -0500 (EST) > > > > > >Thanks. > > > >john ernst > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 08:46:50 -0800 (PST) From: MARK MILLER To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: 5 color lozenge data Message-ID: <20030126164650.70474.qmail@web80003.mail.yahoo.com> Hi again I just revised the article and split the Purple/green stuff onto it's own page. http://www.wwi-models.org/misc/Colors/German/loz2/pg.html added some additional data and commentary. any additional data/opinions would be appreciated Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:50:44 +0100 (CET) From: knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: The Voss cowl conspiracy - was Made out like a bandit Message-ID: <20030126165044.D65FD34350@login-3.eunet.no> Hei, I have a new theory regarding the Voss cowl: To hide the fact that only a few Dreideckers were active at the front, someone came up with the idea of fitting cowls in different colours to the machine used by Voss giving the impression of having more aircraft available. It may not have confused the RFC, but definitely todays modellers.... This theory and a bit of Dicta Ira makes it possible to finish the cowl in whatever colour suits you -it is of course not supported by any evidence. Eders Knut Erik >I suspect that since no-one (me included) has given you a straight answer >about the subject of Voss' cowl I'll have to. >1. No the cowl wasn't yellow >2. No the cowl wasn't Olive >3. Yes, it might have been one or the other but NO-ONE has unarguable >evidence of either state >4. This goes double for anyone claiming to deduce the shade of colours from >B&W photos, Dan San Abbott included >5. People get altogether too het up about this subject and it causes flame >wars and bad blood. >6. Now you know why no-one talks about it on list except by using words like >"possibly but who knows" or avoid the issue altogether >7. Build yours however you like! >8. If you wish to argue about it, go offlist or over to the other WW1 site >where there's always plenty of ego stroking waiting to reemerge >9. Yes, I did see the smiley, but believe me, it ain't worth it. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:00:59 +0000 From: pfalzdvii@att.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Applying a Dull Coat Message-ID: <20030126170100.MDNM9286.mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net@mtiwebc18> John, BE CAREFUL Krylon dries slowly and has solvents that will eat plastic, and most other paints; keep the coats light/dry, and hope the Krylon doesn't crack the undercoats. FWIW -- Merrill Your Madness May Vary > I'm getting ready to apply a "dull coat" to my SS D.III. Should the finish > be truely "flat / matt", or shouls it be more of a "satin / semi-gloss"? > > I use "Krylon" Satin clear coat on my stick and tissue models. I'm going to > try Krylon on the plastic to see how it works. > > Thanks. > > john ernst > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:38:02 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: OT RN Monitors Message-ID: <1043602682.3e341cfa0a39a@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Marc Flake : > 'Ming was looking for OT RN Monitors. HP Models (that prolific > manufacturer I mentioned a couple of weeks ago) makes them. And NNT > (www.nntmodell.com) lists three in their catalog. They are listed for > 42 Euros Cheers Marc, I fancy a change from aircraft, and I haven't built a ship since I was a kid (Airfix HMS Hood). Reckon a Monitor is an interesting idea. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:56:54 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: New Rodens Message-ID: <1043603814.3e342166ae02d@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Shane Weier : > > Hi Neil, > > > >These Se5a's sound great....but....Will they do an Se5 variant? > > Likely, they don't seem to have missed any opportunity with the D.VII or > > Albatrosses. > Mmm - new wings and fuselage to start with (Like DI and Dv I suppose), but no intermediate (like the Albatros DI/II - III - V) progression. I think it unlikely, however, I'm not starting my Scaleplanes ones yet! Dave Fleming ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 18:59:03 +0100 From: "Marek Mincbergr" To: =?iso-8859-2?Q?WWI_Mailing_list_-_zpr=E1vy?= Subject: HR models in future Message-ID: <002f01c2c567$6c629aa0$1681ebd5@ca004834> Hello all, I have met Mr. Jan Hora and we have discussed aboout his new models. They will be Fokker B.I M.10 (in AH colours too) and M.10Z. They will be both in 1/72 and 1/48. I have seen the maste for the first one. And there is H-B C.I ser 369 (I have not the scale) and may be HB B.I in 1/48. We have to wait. BR Marek ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 19:33:34 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: HR models in future Message-ID: <00d101c2c569$6f631e80$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Hi! That HRs... Lovely planes (early Fokkers), but kits aren't very good, especially older ones. I have Albatros D.I which I abandoned in first stages of building when Rodens arrived, and Fokker D.II, with decent wings but the fuselage is to narrow and very basic. Also a lot of dremeling was needed to make a decent cockpit. Wings, after sanding to high ribs look very good. Smaller details, like guns, seat wheels etc look like copied from white metal Pegasus parts - I don't like white metal Pegasus parts, a bit to heavy for me, both in weight and look. I'll probably make all the details from scratch (like I did with interior - tubing and controls from sprue, and seat from E.IV Part PE set). Cowling after some thinning is OK, control surfaces a bit crude - probably I'll build new, like I did very successfully with E.IV rudder. Cheers! G. ***************r-e-k-l-a-m-a************** Chcesz oszczedzic na kosztach obslugi bankowej ? mBIZNES - konto dla firm http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbiznes ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:47:01 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org, knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) Subject: Re: The Voss cowl conspiracy - was Made out like a bandit Message-ID: <200301261047.01387.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> Lol good one Knut, There is a an easy solution to this problem, just build two; One with a yellow cowl and one with an olive green cowl. You could mount both on a plaque and take them to model shows with a card outlining the problem and the years of argument and a sheet asking for guesses. It might not win awards but it would be a good talking point. Ray On Sunday 26 January 2003 08:52, Knut Erik Hagen wrote: > Hei, > > I have a new theory regarding the Voss cowl: > > To hide the fact that only a few Dreideckers were active at the front, > someone came up with the idea of fitting cowls in different colours to the > machine used by Voss giving the impression of having more aircraft > available. > > It may not have confused the RFC, but definitely todays modellers.... > This theory and a bit of Dicta Ira makes it possible to finish the cowl > in whatever colour suits you -it is of course not supported by any > evidence. > > Eders > Knut Erik ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:50:47 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org, pfalzdvii@att.net Subject: Re: Applying a Dull Coat Message-ID: <200301261050.47685.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> Merrills right, I would steer clear of Krylon on a plastic model. Especially since you have got through to the last step. You could use Testors Dullcote or pollyscale satin in an airbrush. On Sunday 26 January 2003 09:02, pfalzdvii@att.net wrote: > John, BE CAREFUL Krylon dries slowly and has solvents that will eat > plastic, and most other paints; keep the coats light/dry, and hope the > Krylon doesn't crack the undercoats. > FWIW ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 14:08:38 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: re: HR models in future Message-ID: <005401c2c56e$56247720$65a8a8c0@tampabay.rr.com> I just finished an HR Nie.24-27. It was a stinker too. The parts were a bit undersize and a bit off on outline compared against the drawing in the FMP book. The surface was mega-pitted with super tiny air holes. Not to mention the mortal sin of Nieuport kits, incorrect sweep on the top wing. OTOH, I built this kit for my RCW friend and those are built to an agreed upon standard that is a less than what I build to for myself. My RCW models are built to show the different types and markings of the period, not the nth detail of a design. If the kit has a simple interior like Rodens & Tokos, that goes in OOB with maybe a seat belt or other obvious fiddly bit. Kits like HRs get a painted pilot stuffed in the cockpit. They are way pricey for what you get, but for my RCW purposes, they look close enough to the type they are supposed to represent and finish up pretty well with a little work. If you want to accurize and super-detail a model, another kit of the type, or even scratchbuilding is preferable to an HR kit. sp > Hi! > That HRs... > Lovely planes (early Fokkers), but kits aren't very good, especially older > ones. > I have Albatros D.I which I abandoned in first stages of building when > Rodens arrived, and Fokker D.II, with decent wings but the fuselage is to > narrow and very basic. Also a lot of dremeling was needed to make a decent > cockpit. Wings, after sanding to high ribs look very good. Smaller details, > like guns, seat wheels etc look like copied from white metal Pegasus parts - > I don't like white metal Pegasus parts, a bit to heavy for me, both in > weight and look. I'll probably make all the details from scratch (like I did > with interior - tubing and controls from sprue, and seat from E.IV Part PE > set). Cowling after some thinning is OK, control surfaces a bit crude - > probably I'll build new, like I did very successfully with E.IV rudder. > Cheers! > G. > > > > ***************r-e-k-l-a-m-a************** > > Chcesz oszczedzic na kosztach obslugi bankowej ? > mBIZNES - konto dla firm > http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbiznes ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 19:04:19 +0000 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OT RN Monitors Message-ID: > I haven't built a ship since I >was a kid (Airfix HMS Hood). Me too!....and I haven't built a ship since. N -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 12:49:51 -0700 From: Clay W Fulcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: chatbox Message-ID: <20030126.124952.4088.0.mtngoat01@juno.com> Has anyone considered adding a chatbox to the website? It is quite easy to do. Then everyone can talk live. I have had one for a long time if you want to see what it looks like: http://www.tx3.net/~arledge/stuff/parachat.htm ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 15:20:25 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Made out like a bandit Message-ID: <200301261520_MC3-1-26F5-A0C3@compuserve.com> Sean, >> get yourself Barry's >cool little F.1 correction set from Rosemont. << Sigh, I guess I didn't follow or see the message that the Eduard kit has a problem. It looks like a beautiful out of the box kit. What needs to be fixed? I bought both the Eduard and Roden Dr.1 and F.1 kits to add to my triplane collection within my collection. I do not have Manfred's or Werner's plane in the collection so I decided to add their planes. Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 12:28:38 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The Voss cowl conspiracy - was Made out like a bandit Message-ID: <20030126202838.8538.qmail@web14811.mail.yahoo.com> --- Ray wrote: > Lol good one Knut, > There is a an easy solution to this problem, just > build two; One with a > yellow cowl and one with an olive green cowl. The Roden instructions instruct you to paint it a dark red - what's up with that? Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:36:53 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: 5 color lozenge data Message-ID: <004001c2c57a$a97cb700$51fb16d5@netcabo.pt> Mark, The article looks great and I, of course, have nothing to add. Just wanted to thank you for another great piece of info from you. Pedro Thanks for all your ----- Original Message ----- From: MARK MILLER To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 4:48 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: 5 color lozenge data > Hi again > I just revised the article and split the Purple/green > stuff onto it's own page. > http://www.wwi-models.org/misc/Colors/German/loz2/pg.html > > added some additional data and commentary. > any additional data/opinions would be appreciated > > Mark ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4951 **********************