WWI Digest 4934 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Albatros kits - DI and DII (Pt.1) by "Shane Weier" 2) =?gb2312?q?=D5=D0=C6=B8=A3=BA=B8=DF=BC=B6=D2=B5=CE=F1=BE=AD=C0=ED,=BC=FB=CF=B0=D2=B5=CE=F1=B4=FA=B1=ED,_=C3=C0=C8=DD=CA=A6,=CF=FA=CA=DB=D4=B1,_=BB=E1=D4=B1?= by =?gb2312?q?=C1=F5=BE=AD=C0=ED_?= 3) RE: Albatros kits - DI and DII (Pt.1) by "Pedro Soares" 4) RE: Albatros kits - DI and DII (Pt.1) by "Shane Weier" 5) Re: slightly off-topic but still very early aeroplane by "Michael Kendix" 6) Re: slightly off-topic but still very early aeroplane by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 7) Re: slightly off-topic but still very early aeroplane by "Michael Kendix" 8) Re: OT Synchronicity by Eric GALLAUD 9) =?gb2312?q?=A3=BA=A3=BA=C7=E0=B5=BA=BE=C6=B5=EA=D4=A4=B6=A8=CD=F8=A3=BA=A3=BA=A1=AA=A1=AA_=C7=E0=B5=BA=B2=BF=B7=D6=BE=C6=B5=EA=B4=BA=BD=DA=D3=C5=BB=DD=D3=AD=B1=F6?= by =?gb2312?q?=C7=E0=B5=BA=D2=D7=B9=BA=C9=CC=CE=F1=D0=C5=CF=A2=B9=AB=CB=BE_?= 10) Re: slightly off-topic but still very early aeroplane by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 11) Re: markings by "Michael Kavanaugh" 12) Re: markings by "Bob Pearson" 13) Re: OT Synchronicity by "Brent Theobald" 14) Airfix H/P 0/400 by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 15) RE: Airfix H/P 0/400 by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 16) ǧÍòÓʼþµØÖ· by luji@email.com 17) RE: Albatros kits - DI and DII (Pt.1) by "Pedro Soares" 18) RE: Albatros kits - DI and DII (Pt.1) by "Shane Weier" 19) RE: Albatros kits - DI and DII (Pt.1) by "Pedro N. Soares" 20) RE: Albatros kits - DI and DII (Pt.1) by "Shane Weier" 21) RE: Albatros kits - DI and DII (Pt.1) by "Diego Fernetti" 22) RE: Albatros kits - DI and DII (Pt.1) by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 23) RE: Albatros kits - DI and DII (Pt.1) by "Pedro N. Soares" 24) ukrainian airforce by "Martin Joachim Struijf" 25) Dropped one by "Steven Perry" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:11:31 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Albatros kits - DI and DII (Pt.1) Message-ID: Lance >I'm busy with an Albatros D.II in the (preferred) 1/48 scale and >believe that the Albatros D.I and D.II had squared timber seat supports >on which adjustment rails rested. That may be so. I didn't do it on the W.4 which is a D.I/D.II fuselage. OTOH so is the D.III, more or less. I may have been a bit hasty, but in any case you can't see the modification *at all* so only you and the rest of the list know it's there ;-) Looking at the catalogue part drawings in Datafile 1 of the crossbars, the crossbars have metal fittings on their ends which probably fit on a flat surface - so the alteration was )a wrong and b) silly even if it had been right! Bloody tiny scale. Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 08:15:59 +0800 From: =?gb2312?q?=C1=F5=BE=AD=C0=ED_?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: =?gb2312?q?=D5=D0=C6=B8=A3=BA=B8=DF=BC=B6=D2=B5=CE=F1=BE=AD=C0=ED,=BC=FB=CF=B0=D2=B5=CE=F1=B4=FA=B1=ED,_=C3=C0=C8=DD=CA=A6,=CF=FA=CA=DB=D4=B1,_=BB=E1=D4=B1?= Message-ID: <3E271A800019BF69@mta4.wss.scd.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) This is a multi-part message in MIME format --bd7cb2bd-2cda-11d7-bbca-5254aba02fb7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =D5=D0=C6=B8=A3=BA=B8=DF=BC=B6=D2=B5=CE=F1=BE=AD=C0=ED,=BC=FB=CF=B0=D2=B5=CE= =F1=B4=FA=B1=ED, =C3=C0=C8=DD=CA=A6,=CF=FA=CA=DB=D4=B1, =BB=E1=D4=B1 =C7=A2=A1=A1=C1=F5=B8=B1=D7=DC=BE=AD=C0=ED EWB SITE=A3=BA http://www.eges.mynuskin.com/ TEL=A3=BA86-769-5326768=A1=A1 E-MAIL=A3=BA ges@ges.com.tw =A1=A1tiffany@ges.com.tw=A1=A1 --bd7cb2bd-2cda-11d7-bbca-5254aba02fb7-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 00:49:28 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: RE: Albatros kits - DI and DII (Pt.1) Message-ID: <00dc01c2c0e6$f565dd60$99475451@netcabo.pt> Shane, > > I'm not sure what Pedro means here - the ring at the nose? Mine are Oeffag DIII: they don't have spinner but a metal nose (part 6F) and it's this particular part that was a bad fit. BUT, reading what you said about shaving off the engine bearers made me think maybe that was what caused the problem.... Still my engines seemed to go on nicely, without forcing the fuselage sides.... Inside the cockpit I only added a floor, used the kit's rather cluncky rudder bar, also used the nice column, added lateral instrument panel on port side and a "triangular" panel protruding from the starboard side, lead foil belts and I fashioned a bar with a couple of gun buts attached (looks a bit crude but it's better than nothing, I think). As to the Nieuport, second coat of contrasting silver dope in on, gun is on. Struts are finished and attached to top wing. Hope to have top wing on before the end of the week. Off to bed now. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:03:28 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Albatros kits - DI and DII (Pt.1) Message-ID: Pedro says: >Inside the cockpit I only added a floor, Do the Oef D.III's have a floor? D.V at least is just curved as the exterior skin. >added lateral instrument panel on >port side Oh. I did this too - not on my list. Another waste of time I suspect, since it too is just barely visible and the "switches" are entirely hidden. >and a "triangular" panel protruding from the starboard side, Different interiors in the Oef's of course. Incidentally, I made a very nice tacho for the gun support arch - and glued the decking on before I remembered it. Still working up the nerve to place it via the cockpit :-( >foil belts and I fashioned a bar with a couple of gun buts attached >looks >a bit crude but it's better than nothing, I think). Is this for an Oef with the internal guns? They're pretty far forward. Just wondering whether you could've painted them pink and no-one be able to see it anyway ;-) *I* have a habit of wasting time like that. For the D.III I faked it a bit by putting a crossbar inside the decking at the rear of the gun mount slots, then two short lateral bars down to the attachment points at the upper longeron - glued straight to the decking. You can't tell it isn't a single arch shape from outside. I'll glue the vertical supports to the gun butts and trim and fit until they seat on top of the bar >Struts are finished and attached to top wing. Hope to have top wing on >before the end of the week. Go go go.... >Off to bed now. > Idler ;-) Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 03:12:17 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: slightly off-topic but still very early aeroplane Message-ID: Thanks to all those who responded to this question. Clearly, there's no kit in 1/72nd scale that I would want to take a crack at so I may have to ... no never mind:) Thanks, Michael _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 14:24:27 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: slightly off-topic but still very early aeroplane Message-ID: <004a01c2c0fc$9dede3a0$f5482dcb@future> You know you want to get the plastic card out and start from scratch. ;-) You can do it. Then make use this as a master so we can all have a resin Wright Flyer. Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Michael Kendix Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 2:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: slightly off-topic but still very early aeroplane Thanks to all those who responded to this question. Clearly, there's no kit in 1/72nd scale that I would want to take a crack at so I may have to ... no never mind:) Thanks, Michael _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 03:32:00 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: slightly off-topic but still very early aeroplane Message-ID: Ross: Yes, of course, I have nothing I'd rather do:). Actually, Bob Wheeler was considering doing one in a vac kit but obviously that won't be happening any time soon. Bob emailed me today and said he was doing OK but he's not 100% yet so it's going to be a while before he's back in full swing mode. Michael >From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" > >You know you want to get the plastic card out and start from scratch. >;-) You can do it. Then make use this as a master so we can all have a >resin Wright Flyer. > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 04:49:00 +0100 From: Eric GALLAUD To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OT Synchronicity Message-ID: <3E2CC32C.2000608@club-internet.fr> I don't have it but I would like to buy the RVHP one. Anybody has some info about this plane ? I have absolutely no documentation about it. 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Has he re-opened his business at all? Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Michael Kendix Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 2:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: slightly off-topic but still very early aeroplane Ross: Yes, of course, I have nothing I'd rather do:). Actually, Bob Wheeler was considering doing one in a vac kit but obviously that won't be happening any time soon. Bob emailed me today and said he was doing OK but he's not 100% yet so it's going to be a while before he's back in full swing mode. Michael >From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" > >You know you want to get the plastic card out and start from scratch. >;-) You can do it. Then make use this as a master so we can all have a >resin Wright Flyer. > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:54:31 -0600 From: "Michael Kavanaugh" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: markings Message-ID: Ken Schmitt asks: >Folks- > >http://www.rodenplant.com/HTML/045.htm > >What does everyone think of the markings for Mannock's SE 5a? >I have never had a good look at his aircraft and was wondering if anyone >could comment on this kit as a source. Have a completed Blue Max waiting >for >markings, on this basis. Ken, The Roden descriptions say that he flew E1295 in No. 74 Sqdn. Air-Britain's "The S.E.5 File" says that he (promoted to major) flew and was killed in E1295 as Commander, No. 85 Sqdn. Dates of his command were June 19 thru July 26, 1918 when he was killed. (FMP VC book said he went on leave June 19 and actually took command on July 5) He replaced Bishop, which to my mind, complicates the problem because the Roden decal sheet includes the hexagon marking used by 85 Sqdn, but I think they intended it for Bishop. Before replacing Bishop as CO, Mannock was a Captain in No. 74 Sqdn, flying D278/A. There is a frequently published photo of Mannock in an aircraft in which part of the "A" can be seen just aft of the roundel. I think this is D278. The photo doesn't show it but No. 74 Sqdn markings included a broad, white horizontal bar considerably aft of the roundel, near the tail. The decal sheet seems to have some of these. Claxton's No. 41 Sqdn used two shorter vertical white bars aft of the roundel and before the letter designation and these seem to be on the decal sheet. >From 1/10/17 - 22/3/18, No. 84 Sqdn used a white horizontal bar, narrower than that 74 Sqdn almost touching the aft side of the roundel and extending rearward towards the tail. The letter was in front of the roundel. I don't see these narrower bars on the decal sheet. However, from 22/3/18 - Nov 1918 the No. 84 markings changed to vertical white bars on each side of the roundel slanting inwards at the top of the roundel. These seem to be on the decal sheet. Pure conjecture: Going on leave between assignments from No. 74 to No. 85 Sqdns, I doubt Mannock took SE5a acft E1295 bearing No. 74 markings with him to No. 85 Sqdn, but that the aircraft was part of the No. 85 inventory when he got there, in which case it would have the hexagonal markings. The markings are on the decal sheet. . . probably meant for Bishop's acft. I don't have a clue as to the letter marking. Did CO's use any particular letter? There are some photos of SE5a's showing the various unit markings in the Windsock SE5/SE5a Squadrons Special Datafile, the aforementioned Air-Britain book. HTH, Mike Kavanaugh _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:55:34 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: markings Message-ID: <104312855801@smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com> I haven't seen the artwork, do they include the little doll or teddy bear that Claxton had behind his cockpit on F5910? There is also a different cockpit cutout shape to this aircraft than standard. .. added to which the fuselage roundels should have an abnormal proportion to them - thin outter ring and a wider centre red spot. As for the shot of Mannock in an 'A' marked SE5a, I'll have to search for my notes, but iirc it isn't D278. However I used the same style of marking when I did the illustration of D278 for the VC book. SE5as he flew at 74 include D278, C1112, C6468 and C5845. At 85 Sqn he flew E1295 Bob ---------- >From: "Michael Kavanaugh" > > Ken, > The Roden descriptions say that he flew E1295 in No. 74 Sqdn. Air-Britain's > "The S.E.5 File" says that he (promoted to major) flew and was killed in > E1295 as Commander, No. 85 Sqdn. Dates of his command were June 19 thru > July 26, 1918 when he was killed. (FMP VC book said he went on leave June 19 > and actually took command on July 5) He replaced Bishop, which to my mind, > complicates the problem because the Roden decal sheet includes the hexagon > marking used by 85 Sqdn, but I think they intended it for Bishop. Before > replacing Bishop as CO, Mannock was a Captain in No. 74 Sqdn, flying D278/A. > > There is a frequently published photo of Mannock in an aircraft in which > part of the "A" can be seen just aft of the roundel. I think this is D278. > The photo doesn't show it but No. 74 Sqdn markings included a broad, white > horizontal bar considerably aft of the roundel, near the tail. The decal > sheet seems to have some of these. > > Claxton's No. 41 Sqdn used two shorter vertical white bars aft of the > roundel and before the letter designation and these seem to be on the decal > sheet. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 06:43:59 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OT Synchronicity Message-ID: Howdy! >Now, anyone built Sierra's 1/72 Gotha GLVII ? I have one about 50% done. Very nice. Better get two though. The wings wander off. LAter! Brent _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 18:22:24 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: WW1 posts Subject: Airfix H/P 0/400 Message-ID: <3E2CF530.D5F6DAFB@tac.com.au> Hi Everyone, Does anyone know if one of the aftermarket companies did a photetch set for this when it was rereleased? Or would you still use one of the more generic sets from TOMS or Eduard? TIA Mistress Lorna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 18:36:24 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: Airfix H/P 0/400 Message-ID: <004f01c2c11f$cfccfd20$f5482dcb@future> In all my net wandering looking for OT stuff I have never seen any P.E. for this kit. Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Shane & Lorna Jenkins Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 6:27 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Airfix H/P 0/400 Hi Everyone, Does anyone know if one of the aftermarket companies did a photetch set for this when it was rereleased? Or would you still use one of the more generic sets from TOMS or Eduard? 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No. But then again they don't have any ventral seam showing. So what I did was to install a kind of inner curved shell, following the contour of the bottom fuse. Looks ok to me. D.V at least is just curved as the > exterior skin. Of course. > > >added lateral instrument panel on > >port side > > Is this for an Oef with the internal guns? They're pretty far forward. Just > wondering whether you could've painted them pink and no-one be able to see > it anyway ;-) *I* have a habit of wasting time like that. The Japo books clearly shows the buts of the guns protruding from the front of the cockpit, so I tried to replicate this and instead of doing things the way that it should and use the buts of 4 roden guns I just installed a couple iof pieces of plastic, in an impressionistic way.... ;-) Off to work now :-) Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 18:22:56 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Albatros kits - DI and DII (Pt.1) Message-ID: Pedro, > > Do the Oef D.III's have a floor? > >No. But then again they don't have any ventral seam showing. So what I >did >was to install a kind of inner curved shell, following the contour >of the bottom fuse. Looks ok to me. Cool. I just left it. When the torque rod is added fore and aft of the base of the control column it lies neatly along the seam and hides it. Looks okay to me too :-) > >Just wondering whether you could've painted them pink and no-one be >able >to see it anyway >The Japo books clearly shows the buts of the guns protruding from the > >front of the cockpit, I don't have it, but was working on memories from a couple of years ago when I briefly considered making and marketing a conversion set for the Eduard kit in 1:48 Ended up figuring it'd only encourage them to do it themselves and leave me poorer and no wiser. >so I tried to replicate this and instead of doing things the >way that it should and use the buts of 4 roden guns I just installed a >couple iof pieces of plastic, in an impressionistic way.... ;-) LOL - best idea I ever heard for stuff that's only just about visible. >>Off to work now :-) I just got home. Off to the airport at double 0 dark for a flight to the mines. No modelling unless I take something along Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** > >Pedro _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:57:37 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Albatros kits - DI and DII (Pt.1) Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B30292C719@TUFAO> Shane > > > Cool. I just left it. When the torque rod is added fore and > aft of the base > of the control column it lies neatly along the seam and hides > it. Looks okay > to me too :-) Great idea. saves the work of cutting the plastic floor. Will certainly do it that way in my next albatros build. > I don't have it, but was working on memories from a couple of > years ago when > I briefly considered making and marketing a conversion set > for the Eduard > kit in 1:48 Ended up figuring it'd only encourage them to > do it themselves > and leave me poorer and no wiser. By no wiser you mean the choice of scale, right? > > > I just got home. Off to the airport at double 0 dark for a > flight to the > mines. Reading Lord of the rings again, are we? ;-) Beware of Gollum down that mine of yours... Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:08:23 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Albatros kits - DI and DII (Pt.1) Message-ID: Pedro > > Cool. I just left it. When the torque rod is added fore and > > aft of the base > > of the control column it lies neatly along the seam and hides > > it. Looks okay > > to me too :-) > >Great idea. saves the work of cutting the plastic floor. Will >certainly do >it that way in my next albatros build. Yeah, well I reread what I wrote and suggest you don't follow it too literally. It's a better description of how to hide a D.V seam, and not accurately what I did on the D.III More precisely, the column should be mounted *forward* of the cross piece at the lower extremity. A torque rod lies on top of the crossbar and runs towards the pilots seat along the centreline ofthe aircraft floor. Underneath it on the pilots side is fixed a down facing horn. On the forward end is hinged the column so that it can be pushed fore and aft. *However* the torque rod doesn't go *foreward* past the column. I relied on the new scratchbuilt rudder bar support which is a shallow tripod, not an inverted V as shown by Roden. The forward long leg and the rudder horn (which is under the tripod and faces forward) cover the seam in front of the control column All clear? I think not, but the drawings show it well - if sommeone with a scanner can pass them on. I *didn't* make the base of the column accurate because I didn't mount the column forward of the crossbar - too much pain for too little gain on what was intended as an easy way to spend quiet hours at work without a desk magnifier! Just the same it looks okay sans magnification :-) One other detail has come to mind - there are a couple of minor sink marks on the rear fuselage sides on all my kits. No big deal to fix. FWIW Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:06:47 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Albatros kits - DI and DII (Pt.1) Message-ID: Pedro warns... >Reading Lord of the rings again, are we? ;-) Beware of Gollum down that >mine >of yours... My prrrrrecious.... D. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 23:00:33 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Albatros kits - DI and DII (Pt.1) Message-ID: <3E2D3661.FDA004BB@tac.com.au> "Pedro N. Soares" wrote: > Reading Lord of the rings again, are we? ;-) Beware of Gollum down that mine > of yours... Naw, he'll be ok, so long as he has his Mithril on ;-þ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:09:15 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Albatros kits - DI and DII (Pt.1) Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B30292C951@TUFAO> Lorna or Shane opinate > "Pedro N. Soares" wrote: > > > Reading Lord of the rings again, are we? ;-) Beware of > Gollum down that mine > > of yours... > > Naw, he'll be ok, so long as he has his Mithril on ;-þ > No way, mates. They don't make XXXXL Mithril shirts. 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------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C2C158.41EB07C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 08:20:37 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Dropped one Message-ID: <004301c2c14f$e3eafac0$65a8a8c0@tampabay.rr.com> I dropped my half rigged Merlin Breguet Br.14b2. It was done as a 96th Aero Squadron machine. I was putting it in a case for safe keeping while I was going to work on one of the other two under construction. Augered straight into my steel toed boot. It made a sick crunch sound. I made a loud explectiave sound(s). The damage is rather more extensive than I care to fool with at this point. I've dropped 'em, fixed 'em and then won contests with 'em. BTDT. This one would never even be taken to the model club much less see a contest table, so I see no point in wasting time repairing it now. I was attempting a triple build that has turned into a three pronged build from hell. At least this is the one that I was keeping, the other two are for my RCW friend I build for. All in all I'm more relieved than mad. Life is short and plastic copious, onward and upward. Photo at: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/sperry03/crash.jpg sp **************************************************************************** ************************************** There is something inherently warped about a society that forces it's modelers to work for a living. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4934 **********************