WWI Digest 4923 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: The way Francisco does it. by "Shane Weier" 2) RE: Anyone fancy a challenge? by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 3) Re: Speaking of Cross and Cockade... by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 4) RE: Anyone fancy a challenge? by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 5) Re: brushing French 5 camo by Ken Schmitt 6) Re: a proper brush up by Ken Schmitt 7) RE: Anyone fancy a challenge? by "Diego Fernetti" 8) Re: brushing French 5 camo by "Diego Fernetti" 9) Fw: Airfix crop circles by "Fernando" 10) Re: Siemens Schukert / Nieuport Color Schemes by "John J Ernst" 11) Re: brushing French 5 camo by Daniel Hayward 12) Re: The way Francisco does it. by "Pedro N. Soares" 13) RE: Fw: Airfix crop circles by "Pedro N. Soares" 14) Re: brushing French 5 camo by "Pedro N. Soares" 15) French Strutter Colors (was Re: Fw: Airfix crop circles ) by tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) 16) Question by tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) 17) Re: Polish scheme on sworl Blue Rider sheet by "Michael Kendix" 18) brush painting - 5 colour SPADs and anything else by "Michael Kendix" 19) PARTNER/CONFIDANT by "HAJIA MARIAM ABACHA" , 20) Re: Siemens Schukert / Nieuport Color Schemes by "Pedro N. Soares" 21) Polish sworled Oeffag by Grzegorz Mazurowski 22) Eduard Fokker E.III by Grzegorz Mazurowski 23) Re: The way Francisco does it. by Crawford Neil 24) RE: Eduard Fokker E.III by "Pedro N. Soares" 25) More FT-17s by tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) 26) Re: Polish sworled Oeffag by "Michael Kendix" 27) RE: Eduard Fokker E.III by "Harris, Mack" 28) Re: Eduard Fokker E.III by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 29) Re: The way Francisco does it. by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 30) Re: Tabloids on MM and my one started by REwing@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:54:04 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The way Francisco does it. Message-ID: Neil the elk retainer says: >(scads of Spads is very poetical, do you want a prize too?) I thought you Nordic chaps only gave one reward for listerature each year and Pedro and Diego shared it? Shane the unpoetical ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:55:44 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: Anyone fancy a challenge? Message-ID: <001501c2bc95$6ae7cb80$f5482dcb@future> Please explain why this would be a challenge? I ask as I have never seen a Merlin kit and the photo of the E-Bay item isn't that good. Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Dave Fleming Sent: Wednesday, 15 January 2003 11:32 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Anyone fancy a challenge? Merlin DH9 on Ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3106960848 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:03:59 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Speaking of Cross and Cockade... Message-ID: <1042635839.3e255c3f8bc2c@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting John & Allison Cyganowski : > I am not sure OTF has any rights to anything from C&C. Most of the > copywrite protection - what there was - have expired. The articles in > C&C > were written gratis. Many of the authors are still living. If the authors are still alive, then the copyright will still be in existence. IIRC, by international convention (& certainly in Europe) Copyright exists for 70 years after the death of the copyright holder. Dave Fleming ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:06:54 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: RE: Anyone fancy a challenge? Message-ID: <1042636014.3e255ceeb529d@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Ross & Wendy Moorhouse : > Please explain why this would be a challenge? I ask as I have never seen > a Merlin kit and the photo of the E-Bay item isn't that good. > Merlin kits are/were pretty crude - often the parts have only a passing resemblance to the aircraft they are supposed to be. Some are OK, but most are pretty poor. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 07:10:31 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Re: brushing French 5 camo Message-ID: sp! > I can generally take Shane's comments without injury to my pride, but this > time those 3 Breguets still on my bench are laughing at me from under their > badly hand brushed French 5 color camo. ;-) contact me offlist. What Diego is forgetting is a page long polemic I shared with him last winter (ok, summer in D's hometown) about brushing Frenchie camo. Dropping Alberto's name justifiably carries more weight. I'd be happy to talk you through it. It ends up being something I look fwd to whether a Spad, HD or Breuget. (learning to like it...hmmm...something in that...) = ) Ken S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 07:17:44 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Re: a proper brush up Message-ID: Dave says: > Paint the lightest upper shade as an 'all over'. Use a light pencil to draw > the > pattern, then paint in the 4 other bands/shades. right but past that is what seems to be upsetting. -coverage -paint dries (work time) -edges -overlaps this thing is about brush control and controlling the paint *with* the brush. the rest is about consistency of paint, which if you are going by Alberto (always a good bet) should be *thinner* not thicker. as stupid a statement as that reads, it really is little more. the knack of that solves the thing. don't know much about tiny drill bits but I do know brush-painting and our models. of the two, my tastes favor the variables of paint work. Ken S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:14:07 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Anyone fancy a challenge? Message-ID: Ross >Please explain why this would be a challenge? I ask as I have never seen >a Merlin kit and the photo of the E-Bay item isn't that good. A MErlin kit is always a challenge... D. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:20:08 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: brushing French 5 camo Message-ID: Ken the brush master wrote >contact me offlist. >It ends up being something I look fwd to whether a Spad, HD or Breuget. >(learning to like it...hmmm...something in that...) Hey Ken Your techniques on the "wet edge" brush technique deserve to be shared on the list. Please write to all regarding to this system, it's very useful and some may even consider to choose brush painting instead of masking and airbrushing. D. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:59:38 -0500 From: "Fernando" To: Subject: Fw: Airfix crop circles Message-ID: <003201c2bc9e$59199a60$ce8c7bd8@oemcomputer> Hi all!! I have a DR1 posted on ARC today .... all comments are invited as i want DEFINITELY to improve my craft ! Obviously i could have done a better job, but right from the start i was thrown for a loop by those " crop circles" on the wings .......................( they upducted my patience! so to speak..lol. ;o) Still i would appreciate some criticism from this community Please! dont be shy let me have it Have these always been there? or are they a result of beating the mold to death over the years?? on the other hand i Have just started a Toko Sopwith 1 1/2 strutter. " pheeeuuu"! ...anything special to look out for??? ' and what were the possible paint scheme for this aircraft ...green on dope? brown on dope? thanks guys! hope i finally get the bug out and it posts OK Fern ( the Spano Canuckien) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:57:17 -0500 From: "John J Ernst" To: "WWI Digest" Subject: Re: Siemens Schukert / Nieuport Color Schemes Message-ID: I'm thinking of starting a Toko Siemen's Schukert D.III / IV... or a Nieuport 16. Is there a chance that there might be a non-losenge color scheme documented for the SS? Also, I've seen references to the Russian N.16 schemes being CDL, however, one source (kit instructions) indicates it's the "buff" color, another (Nieuport Page) mentions that the CDL is more gray due to the poor quality linen. Any thoughts? Thanks. john ernst ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:02:27 -0400 From: Daniel Hayward To: Subject: Re: brushing French 5 camo Message-ID: I'm not an expert, I don't even play one on TV, but I did just paint a 1/72 Spad in 5 color camo by hand and it was really not that hard. I airbrushed the tan base color all over the topsides using FLAT Tamiya acrylic and then used JoSonja brand craft acrylics to mix the other colors and applied them well thinned with water. The first coat just basically stains the tan base and then you build it up with a later coat or two. You can get opaque coverage with no more paint buildup or brush marks than if you had airbrushed it. I think the keys to being able to do this are the flat base coat and the use of the craft acrylics which thin better and dry slower than our hobby paints. The only real drawback is that you have to mix your own shades, but that is actually quite fun and not that hard. I painted the entire Spad in one sitting of about 1/2 hour. By the time one color was on, the previous one was dry and ready for another coat. I wish I already had some photos of it in the gallery, I will send some in tonight if anyone is interested in seeing it. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:08:38 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The way Francisco does it. Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B3028D11A4@TUFAO> Shane, the snake charmer opinates: > > I thought you Nordic chaps only gave one reward for > listerature each year > and Pedro and Diego shared it? Ah, but D and myself are of latin extraction, nothing to do with Nordic Elk adoring tribes... > > Shane the unpoetical And Ungeographical Pedro (whose toad plays hide and seek) > > > > ******************************** > > My Strine is a Toad in Disguise > > > ******************************** > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:17:30 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Fw: Airfix crop circles Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B3028D11C6@TUFAO> > speak..lol. ;o) > Still i would appreciate some criticism from this community > Please! dont be shy let me have it > Fernando, (Ohhhh I get that ABBA song in my hears every time I write this.Who was it that put ABBa into the List????? Crucify!!Crucify!! Crucify!!!) After seing what you're capable of doinmg to the Airfix DR1, I'd say don't ask for criticism...tel me how to do it...please :-) Great job > on the other hand > i Have just started a Toko Sopwith 1 1/2 strutter. " pheeeuuu"! > ..anything special to look out for??? You'll find out that the W struts won't fit. Retain the inverted V and scratch some new arms. and what were the > possible paint > scheme for this aircraft ...green on dope? brown on dope? Ask Matt, he'll say: dope on dope! > thanks guys! hope i finally get the bug out and it posts OK Indeed! > > Fern > > ( the Spano Canuckien) Pedro (True Portuguese) > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:19:40 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: brushing French 5 camo Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B3028D11CA@TUFAO> I wish > I already had > some photos of it in the gallery, I will send some in tonight > if anyone is > interested in seeing it. > > Dan No, not at all, we're not interested, no Sir, are we? C'mon where are they? Pedor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:27:09 -0600 (CST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: French Strutter Colors (was Re: Fw: Airfix crop circles ) Message-ID: <200301151427.h0FER9p42615@king1.kingsnake.com> > Ask Matt, he'll say: dope on dope! Depends. Since I can only answer for the French machines you have four choices. First was CDL - but for only those machines delivered by the British to the French (not many). Then there was aluminum dope (for all the other single-color machines). Thirdly you have "standard" five-color. Finally there were variations, for example, see my build of the Sop 287 Strutter on the site. It's still in five-color, but the application of the colors are unusual. One thing I would like to track down (after researching more about aluminum-doped Strutters) is to see if the five color was applied per manufacturer of the Strutter. For example, think of SPAD VIIs. Depending on who made the airframe would determine how the five color was applied (or in the case of de Marcay, four color, since they left the black off). Did something like that happen for Strutters as well? Another French Strutter aspect worth tracking down is what were the companies that were actually contracted to build Strutters? French aviation practices are unusual, more-so in the fact that there are very few records left explaining those practices. Which also makes tracking down those practices unique - and frustrating. :-) Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:46:47 -0600 (CST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Question Message-ID: <200301151446.h0FEklW43639@king1.kingsnake.com> I'm not sure exactly what it stands for, but is there web presence for the SHAA (the French "National Archives")? TIA! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:04:18 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Polish scheme on sworl Blue Rider sheet Message-ID: Mike: Thanks. I saw Karen's excellent build on the website of a Glencoe kit (highly modified due to the sate of that kit), which has a similar and more elaborate scheme. I wanted to use my sworl decals but I wanted to show the wood fuselage. The Blue Rider decal set will provide that option. Michael >From: "Mike Muth" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: Polish scheme on sworl Blue Rider sheet >Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:19:48 -0500 (EST) > >Mike > I don't have the sheet, but when I tried looking things up, it seems >like there was a Polish 253 at Mokotow Airfield in Warsaw 1919-20 with a >varnished fuselage and sworl on the top of the wings and the rudder. I got >this from the Insignia color guide to Albatros DIII from Blue Rider. >hth >Mike Muth >----- Original Message ----- >From: Michael Kendix >To: Multiple recipients of list >Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 3:16 PM >Subject: [WWI] Polish scheme on sworl Blue Rider sheet > > > > There is a scheme for a Polish Albatros Oeffag D.III Series 253 on the >Blue > > Rider A-H sworl sheet. It had wod fusealge, sworl fabric covered upper > > facing flying surfaces and a red tail fin. The serial is unknown, > > apparently. Anyone have any other information on this aeroplane? > > > > Also, when applying the sworl fabric, is it OK just to apply it >spanwise? > > Slapping it on the top of the wing in a single large sheet? > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:11:36 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: brush painting - 5 colour SPADs and anything else Message-ID: I know we've had this discussion but I just wanted to mention it in relation to 5-colour schemes. In my experience, masking acrylics is an uncertain process. I always seem to pull up a little bit of paint and acrylics are really difficult for me to touch up when a 1/4 thumbnail size flake gets pulled up leaving a hole! I would use enamels and mask them. However, brush painting can produce excellent results, especially enamels. Prior to obtaining an airbrush, I used enamels. The finish was almost as smooth as an airbrush finish and enamels are a lot more durable. The key was to apply fair thin coats applied with a clean flat brush, using smooth strokes. Do not go over any of the surface once its painted until it is dry. Enamel is a slower drying paint and if applied thinly, will self-level leaving a really nice finish. Naturally, brush painting has some drawbacks and you cannot use as successfully in some cases as spraying. Two big drawbacks of brush painting are: 1. certain schemes are really too difficult - like trying to get those overlaped PC-10 surfaces on a Snipe wing or those "Puffs" on some WW2 German camouflage. 2. Certain colours are really not easy to brush well - reds and yellows in particular are bad. Michael _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:05:05 From: "HAJIA MARIAM ABACHA" , To: wwi@mustang.sr.unh.edu Subject: PARTNER/CONFIDANT Message-ID: <200301151602.LAA60125@mustang.sr.unh.edu> FROM: HAJIA MARIAM ABACHA Following the sudden death of my husband, Late General Sanni Abacha, the former head of state of the federal republic of Nigeria in June 1998, I have been thrown into a state of utter confusion, frustration and hopelessness by the present civilian administration. Security agents in Nigeria have subjected me to physical and psychological tortures. One of my sons is still under detention as well as arraigned before a Federal High Court of Nigeria for an offence he did not commit. 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I look forward to receiving your urgent reply to my request.Please Reply directly through myfamily'slawyer,BAR.TUNDEBALOGUN AT:Bar.tundebalogun@omaninfo.com If there is need to speak with me,please inform the lawyer so that he can arrange a definite time that will be convenient for the both of us. We await a very positive response. Yours truly, Hajia Mariam Abacha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:00:30 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Siemens Schukert / Nieuport Color Schemes Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B3028D1385@TUFAO> John, > I'm thinking of starting a Toko Siemen's Schukert D.III / IV... or a > Nieuport 16. Great Choise of subject matter > > Is there a chance that there might be a non-losenge color > scheme documented > for the SS? Can't say for sure, but there was once a feature on IM by Bob Pearson on SS a/c profiles IIRC. I Wonder if it's in the IM archives, in the gallery pages. > > Also, I've seen references to the Russian N.16 schemes being > CDL, however, > one source (kit instructions) indicates it's the "buff" color, another > (Nieuport Page) mentions that the CDL is more gray due to the > poor quality > linen. Any thoughts? John, CDL can range in colour from yellow to almost brown with all grey and yellowish shades in between. If I were you I wouldn't worry too much about that, though I think it's accepted wisdom that russian CDL tended to be more on the grey side. Just don't paint the thing red blue or green ;-) HTH Pedro > > Thanks. > > john ernst > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:09:51 -0800 (PST) From: Grzegorz Mazurowski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Polish sworled Oeffag Message-ID: <20030115160951.10706.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Mike! "It had wod fusealge, sworl fabric covered upper facing flying surfaces and a red tail fin. " A red tail fin???? I have that decals, but no sign of the red fin there... Also in various books, there is no remark about red tail fin. I have 3 scheme of the Polish Oeffags with sworled camo, the best are in Goworek book (Diego can probably scan for you). One is wood/sworls, one has green fuselage (217/18), and one is Karen's "2". "Also, when applying the sworl fabric, is it OK just to apply it spanwise? Slapping it on the top of the wing in a single large sheet?" Yes. Photos in the O'Connor's article show that the fabric stripe is wider than the wing chord and was applied spanwise. G. (still from father's comp...) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:15:31 -0800 (PST) From: Grzegorz Mazurowski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Eduard Fokker E.III Message-ID: <20030115161531.83820.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> Dave! Can you check if your "A 6" decals looks like printed without the film? nb: ICM Fokker E.IV in 3 colour camo - just finished painting - freehand airbrushing. I only have to lay decals and attach undercarriage. nl: Jethro Tull "Thick as a Brick" from 1972. Very cool! Grzegorz __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:18:32 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: The way Francisco does it. Message-ID: Thanks for the compliment Dave. What I meant was that it takes guts to do something you don't usually do, for me to start brush painting would be as scary as air-brushing and rigging is to some. In the same way, I'm impressed by people who do good brush painting. It's now nearly 30 years since I did any brush painting, so it would be a big step psychologically for me to do it, it sort of feels like it would be a challenge though, so I'd almost like to try, yet don't quite dare because it could go wrong, and if I spray I know it will work! One thing I would highly recommend when doing french 5-colour, is to do at least two at the same time, if you're messing around with paint mixes , masking etc. you can get the second one for nothing, so to say. I once did three AEF Spad 13's by brush painting, with a coat of varnish on, you hardly see the brush marks, so I agree with Dan, it really is a very good, and quick method, I used enamels, and I've never managed to get such nice looking mixes since, using Humbrol 86 for the green gives a duller (more realistic perhaps?) look, but I love my old brighter ones, the memorial flight Spad is quite bright too. /Neil C (Spads in scads) > Got the guts? Having seen your modelling, I doubt you'd have > too many problems! > > > That's the way I'd do it, mainly because I can't spray for > toffee. I mean, we > are (mainly) talking bands of colour here, rather than > Lozenge or (e.g.) WW2 > French or German schemes > > My method would be: > > Paint the lightest upper shade as an 'all over'. Use a light > pencil to draw the > pattern, then paint in the 4 other bands/shades. > > Dave > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:19:32 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Eduard Fokker E.III Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B3028D1429@TUFAO> > nl: Jethro Tull "Thick as a Brick" from 1972. Very > cool! > > Grzegorz Excellent Choice Greg. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:10:35 -0600 (CST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: More FT-17s Message-ID: <200301151610.h0FGAZ148635@king1.kingsnake.com> Looks like Mirage is now jumping on the 1/72nd FT-17 bandwagon. They have announced four more FT-17s that RPM hasn't. For more info go here: http://www.mirage-hobby.com.pl/p11_reklama_en.html Plus, off topic, they've announced an entire M3 General Lee series. Cool! Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:27:16 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Polish sworled Oeffag Message-ID: >From: Grzegorz Mazurowski >A red tail fin???? I made mistake, confused it with a 1930 Soviet Sopwith Strutter scheme in the Toko kit. >I have 3 scheme of the Polish Oeffags with sworled >camo, the best are in Goworek book (Diego can probably >scan for you). One is wood/sworls, one has green >fuselage (217/18), and one is Karen's "2". I am borrowing a copy of the book froma friend, so that's fine. >Yes. Photos in the O'Connor's article show that the >fabric stripe is wider than the wing chord and was >applied spanwise. Excellent. Easier than painting for sure. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:34:34 -0600 From: "Harris, Mack" To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Eduard Fokker E.III Message-ID: As Grzegorz so excellently puts it: nl: Jethro Tull "Thick as a Brick" from 1972. Very cool! Excerpt from Thick as a brick: Well! Make your will and testament. Won't you? Join your local government. We'll have Superman for president let Robin save the day. So! Where the hell was Biggles when you needed him last Saturday? And where were all the sportsmen who always pulled you through? They're all resting down in Cornwall -- writing up their memoirs for a paper-back edition of the Boy Scout Manual See, even Jethro Tull (Ian Anderson) is OT! Mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:40:53 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Eduard Fokker E.III Message-ID: <1042648853.3e258f15553d9@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Grzegorz Mazurowski : > Dave! > Can you check if your "A 6" decals looks like printed > without the film? > Yep! No Carrier film on the 'A6'. I'd put a coat of Klear (Future) or Gloss varnish before use. Dave Fleming ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:43:31 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: The way Francisco does it. Message-ID: <1042649011.3e258fb3aec6b@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Crawford Neil : > One thing I would highly recommend when doing french 5-colour, is to do > at least two at the same time, if you're messing around with paint mixes > , masking etc. you can get the second one for nothing, so to say. If/when I get round to painting in 5 colour, I'll probably use Matt's Polyscale matches straight from the bottle. Don't know if my eyes could take doing more than one at a time!! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:50:05 EST From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Tabloids on MM and my one started Message-ID: --part1_d8.21c8de50.2b56eb3d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Shane says, "Thanks. An interesting review, though I think Scotty is a bit generous saying that the Special Hobby kits are "In many ways it is comparable to the newest Eduard profi-pack kits"' "I think the ones I have are very good, but not quite *that* good." I agree. I have noticed that no one has mentioned the rivet or bolt heads around the cowling area. To me, these seem to be considerably overdone. I don't see them on any of the photos I have looked at and I think they should be sanded down. I also looked at Tom Cleaver's preview and he mentioned the overdone rib tapes, which also bugged me a bit. Scott's model seems to have them toned down just by having them painted. I like Scott's warnings on the two other items and I will incorporate them in my (eventual) build. I DO think this is a very nice kit and looks like it would be fun to build. ~Rick~ List Librarian --part1_d8.21c8de50.2b56eb3d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Shane says,

"Thanks. An interesting review, though I think Scotty is a bit generous
saying that the Special Hobby kits are "In many ways it is comparable to the
newest Eduard profi-pack kits"'

"I think the ones I have are very good, but not quite *that* good."


I agree.  I have noticed that no one has mentioned the rivet or bolt heads around the cowling area.  To me, these seem to be considerably overdone.  I don't see them on any of the photos I have looked at and I think they should be sanded down.  I also looked at Tom Cleaver's preview and he mentioned the overdone rib tapes, which also bugged me a bit. Scott's model seems to have them toned down just by having them painted.  I like Scott's warnings on the two other items and I will incorporate them in my (eventual) build. I DO think this is a very nice kit and looks like it would be fun to build.   

~Rick~
List Librarian

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