WWI Digest 4922 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Merlin DH.10 by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 2) Re: Polish scheme on sworl Blue Rider sheet by "Mike Muth" 3) Re: The way Francisco does it. by "Steven Perry" 4) Re: Sopwith Camel by Eric GALLAUD 5) Re: The way Francisco does it. by "Shane Weier" 6) Unsubbing by Karen Rychlewski 7) Tabloids on MM and my one started by Ray 8) Re: Tabloids on MM and my one started by "Shane Weier" 9) Re: Tabloids on MM and my one started by Ray 10) =?GB2312?B?UmU61eLW1tesx663vcq90ru2qMrKus/E46Oho6GjoQ==?= by "yodada" 11) Re: The way Francisco does it. by Crawford Neil 12) Re: Eduard Fokker EIII (1/72) by dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com 13) Re: The way Francisco does it. by "Steven Perry" 14) Re: The way Francisco does it. by "Diego Fernetti" 15) Re: The way Francisco does it. by "Diego Fernetti" 16) French Five Color (was Re: Re: The way Francisco does it.) by "Matt Bittner" 17) Re: Eduard - My Eyes Are Misting Over by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 18) Re: The way Francisco does it. by "Steven Perry" 19) Re: Unsolicited testimonial from the South by "Matt Bittner" 20) Re: Tabloids on MM and my one started by "Shane Weier" 21) Re: French Five Color (was Re: Re: The way Francisco does it.) by "Diego Fernetti" 22) Re: The way Francisco does it. by "Shane Weier" 23) Re: Harry Hawker Tabloid.. by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 24) SANDLE by "Matt Bittner" 25) Re: The way Francisco does it. by "Shane Weier" 26) Re: Harry Hawker Tabloid.. by Crawford Neil 27) Re: Harry Hawker Tabloid.. by "Shane Weier" 28) Re: Harry Hawker Tabloid.. by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 29) Re: The way Francisco does it. by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 30) Re: The way Francisco does it. by Crawford Neil 31) Anyone fancy a challenge? by Dave Fleming 32) Re: Speaking of Cross and Cockade... by "John & Allison Cyganowski" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:05:42 EST From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Merlin DH.10 Message-ID: <86.249e0c63.2b562a06@aol.com> --part1_86.249e0c63.2b562a06_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Evening to all, just wondering if anyone seen this kit "Merlin DH.10?" A short review would be helpful to me as someone I know has one to sell to me. Best regards, Jon --part1_86.249e0c63.2b562a06_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Evening to all, just wondering if anyone seen this kit "Merlin DH.10?" A short review would be helpful to me as someone I know has one to sell to me.

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Jon --part1_86.249e0c63.2b562a06_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:19:16 -0500 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Polish scheme on sworl Blue Rider sheet Message-ID: <002a01c2bc44$e35b3a80$7535bacc@ptdprolog.net> Mike I don't have the sheet, but when I tried looking things up, it seems like there was a Polish 253 at Mokotow Airfield in Warsaw 1919-20 with a varnished fuselage and sworl on the top of the wings and the rudder. I got this from the Insignia color guide to Albatros DIII from Blue Rider. hth Mike Muth ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Kendix To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 3:16 PM Subject: [WWI] Polish scheme on sworl Blue Rider sheet > There is a scheme for a Polish Albatros Oeffag D.III Series 253 on the Blue > Rider A-H sworl sheet. It had wod fusealge, sworl fabric covered upper > facing flying surfaces and a red tail fin. The serial is unknown, > apparently. Anyone have any other information on this aeroplane? > > Also, when applying the sworl fabric, is it OK just to apply it spanwise? > Slapping it on the top of the wing in a single large sheet? > > Michael > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:30:53 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: The way Francisco does it. Message-ID: <000701c2bc46$829c2900$64a8a8c0@tampabay.rr.com> > It *might* be worth doing if I wanted to do multiple of a SPAD VII or XIII > for example but why anyone would want to do that passeth all understanding > ;-) > > Shane Well try this. I wanna do it because I can't. My 5 color French camo stinks, same as my streaky Fokker camo. So I'll keep plugging away till I get it right, which at my rate may be several Spads, (and Dridekkers), away. sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 04:41:14 +0100 From: Eric GALLAUD To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Sopwith Camel Message-ID: <3E24D85A.4040603@club-internet.fr> Hi Grezgorz, I think I can measure the dimensions on the datafile, but if you can ask for the colour and/or material used, it should be helpful. Thank you Eric grzegorz_mazurowski@poczta.onet.pl a 閏rit: >Krakow museum guys have original Camel ammo box. I think I can ask them for dimensions, photo or what you want. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:42:00 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The way Francisco does it. Message-ID: SP >Well try this. I wanna do it because I can't. My 5 color French camo >stinks, same as my streaky Fokker camo. So I'll keep plugging away till I >get it right, which at my rate may be several Spads, (and Dridekkers), >away. I can see that, though I'd have thought there were more interesting subjects to do in 5-colour multiples than SPADs. Breguets for example ...... :-) Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:38:29 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: aa-to post Subject: Unsubbing Message-ID: <3E24F3D5.B83C53D3@earthlink.net> Bah! Winter... I'm fleeing to San Juan, Puerto Rico, Wednesday evening and then two weeks of cruising various islands of the Caribbean. Don't expect to find anything OT, but one never knows. Bye bye, and y'all be good, now Dame Karen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:23:52 -0800 From: Ray To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Tabloids on MM and my one started Message-ID: <200301142123.52922.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> I just noticed there is a build of the Special Hobby Tabloid on Modelling Madness in case anyone other than me is interested;) I would also like to thank Steve Perry, Neil Crawford and Lance Krieg for the information they posted on the Tabloid last week. I just finally read through all the emails whilst I was offline. Oh and yes I started the first model in the new modeling room tonight. No guesses on what it is, its an Eduard Schneider that is going to become a Tabloid Racer, so far I have just confined myself to cleaning up the plastic and making up the beginnings of a list of changes. I wish Eduard would re-issue the Schneider/Baby since I think I might want another one or two ;) Ray ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:40:27 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Tabloids on MM and my one started Message-ID: Ray >I just noticed there is a build of the Special Hobby Tabloid on >Modelling >Madness in case anyone other than me is interested;) URL please? Not just www.modelingmadness.com because I have it blocked, I need the URL of the actual review >I wish Eduard would re-issue the Schneider/Baby since I >think I might want another one or two ;) Come to the light side of the frce, ad Special Hobby will save you all that angst.... ;-) Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** >I wish Eduard would re-issue the Schneider/Baby since I >think I might want another one or two ;) _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:34:52 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Tabloids on MM and my one started Message-ID: <200301142234.52854.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> Shane and anyone else who needs the URL. http://m2reviews.cnsi.net/reviews/w1/bodilytab.htm > Come to the light side of the frce, ad Special Hobby will save you all that > angst.... > > ;-) > I have some 1/48th models in fact all the early Eduards and one or two others including a 1/48th Snipe. I'm saving them until till a few years down the road to build. ;) Of course they also make good swap bait for more 1/72 scale models. I got some very unusual vacuforms for a certain DML DVII Ray ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:41:40 +0800 From: "yodada" To: wwi@mustang.sr.unh.edu Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU61eLW1tesx663vcq90ru2qMrKus/E46Oho6GjoQ==?= Message-ID: <200301150739.CAA57125@mustang.sr.unh.edu> 相信你一定有兴趣，只要你几分钟时间，就可以边上网边赚美元了，美国佬的钱不赚白不赚。详见附件。点击即可打开:http://jgs.cn.gs/zhunigk.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:14:45 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: The way Francisco does it. Message-ID: though I'd have thought there were more > interesting subjects > to do in 5-colour multiples than SPADs. Breguets for example ...... > > :-) > > Shane Very odd statement this, I think Shane is just being grouchy........ Anyway I've been thinking about the decal thing, what we really need is something like the Renwal Aeroskin, a complete upper wing decal. In 5 variations for the different factories, with and without roundels , square and round wings, and the same for Nieuports and Breguets. The more I write the sillier it gets! How about a compromise, paint everything beige, mask off and spray the the two green shades, then cut out from your ready-sprayed decal for the chestnut brown and black. I've often thought about doing something like this, but always end up just masking and spraying all of them. Spraying 5-colour is silly anyway, Alberto brush paints 5-colour, I'd do that myself if I'd got the guts. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:23:59 +0000 From: dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Eduard Fokker EIII (1/72) Message-ID: <1042622639.3e2528afe9135@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Lance Krieg : > Dave wants: > > "... a source of decals (just serial) for 210/16?" > > > I'll bet you've already got those numerals in your stash of other > kits. > I went to my decal stash & guess what I found - the sheet for the Revell EIII which had serials for 210/16!!! Completely forgot I had that! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 05:34:32 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: The way Francisco does it. Message-ID: <002301c2bc81$b1020d60$64a8a8c0@tampabay.rr.com> > I can see that, though I'd have thought there were more interesting subjects > to do in 5-colour multiples than SPADs. Breguets for example ...... > > :-) Don't you have anything better to do...like finishing your model ship. I can generally take Shane's comments without injury to my pride, but this time those 3 Breguets still on my bench are laughing at me from under their badly hand brushed French 5 color camo. ;-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:52:54 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The way Francisco does it. Message-ID: Neil the elk mailer wrote: >Spraying 5-colour >is silly anyway, Alberto brush paints 5-colour, I'd do that myself if I'd >got >the guts. I've been there. Twice in 2002 (Spad XIII and Nieuport 28) It's not that hard to do, but it gets on your nerves because it's so bl**dy tedious. The results are very satisfactory, as the complete paintjob has been made of similar but not equal colours and doesn't look right until you have completed it all. Sorts of blends itself, as may have happened in real life. Whenever I started complaining for so many different patches to paint, I thought on the real aircraft painters (the scheme was done with brushes as well!) and you realize that's there is no use in moaning. D. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:59:19 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The way Francisco does it. Message-ID: Steve wrote: >those 3 Breguets still on my bench are laughing at me from under their >badly hand brushed French 5 color camo. ;-) Don't despair! The best advice I read on how to deal with that was that of Alberto Casirati's article on Windsock about painting his Nieuport 28: Keep the paint coats VERY thin and keep adding them until the colour goes solid. Start with the beige as a base in all the airframe and add the rest light green-dark green-chestnut and black. It's just a long process, that's all. Mine took about four coats of dark green to cover. Go figure. D. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 05:06:31 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: French Five Color (was Re: Re: The way Francisco does it.) Message-ID: On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 05:58:12 -0500 (EST), Diego Fernetti wrote: > I've been there. Twice in 2002 (Spad XIII and Nieuport 28) It's not that > hard to do, but it gets on your nerves because it's so bl**dy tedious. The > results are very satisfactory, as the complete paintjob has been made of > similar but not equal colours and doesn't look right until you have > completed it all. Sorts of blends itself, as may have happened in real life. > Whenever I started complaining for so many different patches to paint, I > thought on the real aircraft painters (the scheme was done with brushes as > well!) and you realize that's there is no use in moaning. I've built four models with five color, and have no problems masking at all. Guess I just consider it one of life's necessities. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:08:57 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Eduard - My Eyes Are Misting Over Message-ID: <1042628937.3e2541496d39f@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Shane Weier : > Sean > > >They'd just have to offer two different wing sprues > >(one early, rounded, one late), right? > > > There's a third wing variation - rounded with pocket extensions. If I > was > working at Eduard I'd produce a late (square tips) wingset and an early > (rounded) wingset but the rounded wingset would also include the > extension > parts to model the third option > Actually, there is a fourth - the earliest XIIIs had a different number of ribs to the majority. Details are in the Datafile. And you thought Fokker DVIIs were varied... Dave Fleming ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 06:12:31 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: The way Francisco does it. Message-ID: <002d01c2bc86$ff9b42c0$64a8a8c0@tampabay.rr.com> > Whenever I started complaining for so many different patches to paint, I > thought on the real aircraft painters (the scheme was done with brushes as > well!) and you realize that's there is no use in moaning. Ah, you're probably right, I'll knock of the moaning....but still I reserve the right to whinger a bit ;-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 05:20:09 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Unsolicited testimonial from the South Message-ID: On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:06:56 -0500 (EST), D_Fernetti wrote: > Hey, I must write a message just like Dave the Ming wrote: > Once again, SANDLE Hobbies has delivered my order in record time and > personalized attention, something that's very valuable in any mail order > shop. If you still haven-t tried ordering anything from SANDLE you must give > them a try. Their stock is expanding (their new catalog they also sent me is > impressive) and it's dealing with good friends. I just realised that we don't have a link to SANDLE from the Links page. Someone want to send it to me, and I'll include it? Thanks! Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:36:17 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Tabloids on MM and my one started Message-ID: Ray >Shane and anyone else who needs the URL. > >http://m2reviews.cnsi.net/reviews/w1/bodilytab.htm Thanks. An interesting review, though I think Scotty is a bit generous saying that the Special Hobby kits are "In many ways it is comparable to the newest Eduard profi-pack kits" I think the ones I have are very good, but not quite *that* good Shane (who has the Schneider, but not the Tabloid, and needs one some day for his Harry hawker collection) ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:33:31 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: French Five Color (was Re: Re: The way Francisco does it.) Message-ID: MAtt wrote: >I've built four models with five color, and have no problems >masking at all. Guess I just consider it one of life's >necessities. That's because you are "The Masked Modeler"!!!!!!!!! D. Hi-yo, Silver! _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:46:28 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The way Francisco does it. Message-ID: Neil says: > > though I'd have thought there were more interesting subjects > > to do in 5-colour multiples than SPADs. Breguets for example ...... > > > > :-) > > > >Very odd statement this, I think Shane is just being grouchy........ > While I am in fact a grouchy person, *you* are a happy little Vegemite who just can't conceive of one *not* wanting scads of SPADS. In any case the suggestion of Breguets had specific application to the person to whom it was addressed :-) Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:50:33 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Harry Hawker Tabloid.. Message-ID: <000501c2bc8c$4fc885a0$f5482dcb@future> Shane the Tabloid that Harry brought out here was a 2 seater version. Seats side by side. Also had a steering wheel control column. The top wing had no indent (for want of a better word) to help the pilot get out of the cockpit. I think that the carbine struts are positioned different that the Tabloid that Special hobby has done. I believe that the rear carbine struts are just behind the cockpit on Harry's one. Unlike those in the SH one. I have a few photos if you would like them? Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Shane Weier Sent: Wednesday, 15 January 2003 10:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Tabloids on MM and my one started Ray >Shane and anyone else who needs the URL. > >http://m2reviews.cnsi.net/reviews/w1/bodilytab.htm Thanks. An interesting review, though I think Scotty is a bit generous saying that the Special Hobby kits are "In many ways it is comparable to the newest Eduard profi-pack kits" I think the ones I have are very good, but not quite *that* good Shane (who has the Schneider, but not the Tabloid, and needs one some day for his Harry hawker collection) ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 05:50:19 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: SANDLE Message-ID: SANDLE has now been added to the Links page. Thanks, D! Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Page Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:51:40 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The way Francisco does it. Message-ID: >Don't you have anything better to do...like finishing your model ship. Ouch ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:59:36 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Harry Hawker Tabloid.. Message-ID: I found out that the Schneider racer had an extra fuel tank beside the (single) seat. FYI, FWIW /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:03:33 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Harry Hawker Tabloid.. Message-ID: Ross, >Shane the Tabloid that Harry brought out here was a 2 seater version. >Seats side by side. Also had a steering wheel control column. The top >wing had no indent (for want of a better word) to help the pilot get out >of the cockpit. I think that the carbine struts are positioned different >that the Tabloid that Special hobby has done. I believe that the rear >carbine struts are just behind the cockpit on Harry's one. Unlike those >in the SH one. I have a few photos if you would like them? Yes, I know all that (and have a nice big pile of photos too, including some of the cockpit) Thanks anyway - but it *is* a project for "further down the track" Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:04:16 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Harry Hawker Tabloid.. Message-ID: <000601c2bc8e$3ce90fc0$f5482dcb@future> Do you mean in real life and in the kit or just in real life? Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Crawford Neil Sent: Wednesday, 15 January 2003 11:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Harry Hawker Tabloid.. I found out that the Schneider racer had an extra fuel tank beside the (single) seat. FYI, FWIW /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:22:08 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: The way Francisco does it. Message-ID: <1042633328.3e2552703a2da@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Crawford Neil : > > How about a compromise, paint everything beige, mask off and spray the > the two green shades, then cut out from your ready-sprayed decal for the > chestnut > brown and black. I've often thought about doing something like this, > but always end up just masking and spraying all of them. Spraying > 5-colour > is silly anyway, Alberto brush paints 5-colour, I'd do that myself if > I'd got > the guts. Got the guts? Having seen your modelling, I doubt you'd have too many problems! That's the way I'd do it, mainly because I can't spray for toffee. I mean, we are (mainly) talking bands of colour here, rather than Lozenge or (e.g.) WW2 French or German schemes My method would be: Paint the lightest upper shade as an 'all over'. Use a light pencil to draw the pattern, then paint in the 4 other bands/shades. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:26:58 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: The way Francisco does it. Message-ID: > While I am in fact a grouchy person, *you* are a happy little > Vegemite who > just can't conceive of one *not* wanting scads of SPADS. > If I knew how to do one of those "sticking out tongue" emoticons I would do it, but I don't, so just carry on bashing your head against a wall, like you were doing in reply to Steve;-) /Neil (scads of Spads is very poetical, do you want a prize too?) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:30:35 +0000 From: Dave Fleming To: Subject: Anyone fancy a challenge? Message-ID: <1042633835.3e25546b84ce5@netmail.pipex.net> Merlin DH9 on Ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3106960848 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 07:50:00 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Speaking of Cross and Cockade... Message-ID: <001b01c2bc94$9e549440$d93f5b0c@millipore.com> I am not sure OTF has any rights to anything from C&C. Most of the copywrite protection - what there was - have expired. The articles in C&C were written gratis. Many of the authors are still living. I suggest that a CD collection issued by a 3rd party with the intention of making a buck would not be received too well. On the otherhand, I think C&C (US) needs protection. The paper in the earlier issues was not the best and it is only a matter of time before these things start to get brittle and crumble. I think it would be the best solution for OTF to step in an make a C&C (US) CD collection. I think that most authors would be okay with that. My concern is that from what I have seen, OTF doesn't seem to have the horsepower to drive this or make it a priority. Lots of Chiefs - few Indians (apologies in advance to any offended list members of native American extraction). Cyg. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Ruprecht" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 5:20 PM Subject: [WWI] Speaking of Cross and Cockade... > I had an email correspondence with Jim Streckfus sometime in the last year > or two and was told that indeed someone in the League (who apparently own > the rights to C & C [???]) was working on exactly that. If the League owns > the rights to the old C & C, there would be copyright issues. Rupe > > > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4922 **********************