WWI Digest 4908 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) New update by "Matt Bittner" 2) Re: Re The Glue Fatcory by "Diego Fernetti" 3) Re: Engine Cooling fins qn by "Shane Weier" 4) Re: the glue factory by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 5) RE: 2 cents worth on Hi Tech 1/48 Bregeut XIV A2 that arrived today.. by "Clemente Balladares" 6) Re: Making a steering wheel? by "Diego Fernetti" 7) Re: Making a steering wheel? by Crawford Neil 8) Re: Making a steering wheel? by "Michael Kendix" 9) RE: Special Hobby Tabloid Questions by Crawford Neil 10) Re: Making a steering wheel? by "Michael Kendix" 11) Tag lines RE: Re: Engine Cooling fins qn by "Pedro N. Soares" 12) RE: New update by "Pedro N. Soares" 13) RE: Tag lines RE: Re: Engine Cooling fins qn by Crawford Neil 14) RE: New update by Crawford Neil 15) Re: Tag lines RE: Re: Engine Cooling fins qn by "Shane Weier" 16) Albatros book by "Harris, Mack" 17) Re: Engine Cooling fins qn by SSH 18) Merrill's Grim Reaper by Ken Schmitt 19) Re: Nieuport update by Crawford Neil 20) Re: Tag lines RE: Re: Engine Cooling fins qn by "Pedro N. Soares" 21) Re: Making a steering wheel? by "Diego Fernetti" 22) Re: Making a steering wheel? by "Diego Fernetti" 23) Re: Albatros book by SSH 24) Re: Tag lines RE: Re: Engine Cooling fins qn by "Pedro N. Soares" 25) Re: Making a steering wheel? by "Pedro N. Soares" 26) Re: Tag lines RE: Re: Engine Cooling fins qn by "Diego Fernetti" 27) Re: Albatros book by "Harris, Mack" 28) Re: Engine Cooling fins qn by "Lance Krieg" 29) Re: Making a steering wheel? by SSH 30) RE: Making a steering wheel? by "Lance Krieg" 31) Re: Engine Cooling fins qn by SSH ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 05:33:55 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: New update Message-ID: Merrill Anderson sent in images of an in-progress SPAD XIII. Cool! Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Page Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:37:17 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Re The Glue Fatcory Message-ID: >From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" >>Sting did something on that Blue Turtles album. ....the flower of Englan >lies face down in the mud.... What about "Iron Will" by Dire Straits? D. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 21:56:33 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Engine Cooling fins qn Message-ID: Pedro >Do I get royalties, then? > >;-) No. Resign yourself to the oppression of the artistic class by the bourgois capitalist publishing establishment Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise (The now unpublishable Pedro S) ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 07:02:54 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: the glue factory Message-ID: <005001c2b8a0$35e6ee00$383f5b0c@millipore.com> All of my dealings with Chris have been good. His emails have always been courteous and well spoken. I also like his products. Cyg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Pearson" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 12:10 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: the glue factory > Well I have never said anything but good about his kits. In fact for a few > years I was getting two of each kit as it was released. . one to build and > one to save. However it may have something to do with the fact that a person > whom I used to associate with took every opportunity to badmouth his > products and it was under the guise of said organization that I contacted > him on a few occasions. > > Bob > > ---------- > >From: "Steven Perry" > > > I have had every e-mail to Chris answered. All quite cordially. However I > > happen to like B-M and Pegasus kits and have always been complimentary about > > the kits I've built. I imagine he might respond, (or not respond) > > differently if I'd blasted him about quality issues. I believe he does quite > > a bit of the work himself and so it's natural for him to react differently > > than a large company when confronted by a negatively toned message. > > Complaints can be couched in terms that are not personal. While they may not > > be as immediately satisfying to send, they are more often than not met with > > more satisfying responses resulting in solved problems rather than ruffled > > feathers. > > > > sp > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 08:04:24 -0400 From: "Clemente Balladares" To: Subject: RE: 2 cents worth on Hi Tech 1/48 Bregeut XIV A2 that arrived today.. Message-ID: <2B1249EB720E7141B18BB3F151C8E9F00CF647@correo.marn.gov.ve> Hi John I like Breguets too, but I build 1/72 scale. Good luck on your effort. I am still searching the base and crews of the Squadron Br107, Do you know something about this? Sincerely Clemente -----Mensaje original----- De: John_Impenna@hyperion.com [mailto:John_Impenna@hyperion.com] Enviado el: Jueves, 09 de Enero de 2003 04:26 p.m. Para: Multiple recipients of list Asunto: [WWI] 2 cents worth on Hi Tech 1/48 Bregeut XIV A2 that arrived today.. Hi Folks, Got my Bregeut, in the correct scale, today from Squadron. Looks decent. Not having the B kit handy, I don't know how close these 2 are, but this one looks okay. Need to see how close it is to plans, but I don't get too crazy about this...This looks like an A2...That's usually enough for me..Comes with so-so resin but really nice p/e, especially for the cockpit and side grills..Cockpit looks like it is pretty detailed. White metal prop and guns, but will probably carve a wood prop and use photo-etch for the guns. Plastic is okay. Fuselage stitching, while a bit heavy, is a nice representation. Wings have nicely done tapes and should be thin enough at the trailing edges with some careful cleanup. Some flash. Markings are really nice for a USAS machine of the 96th Aero Squadron flown by Cpt. James Summersett, Jr. Red Devil markings are done well. Instructions are decent with exploded drawings and a rigging diagram. This kit was $33.96 on pre-order from Squadron...Can I say it was worth it??? Maybe....These are still very much limited-release, lo-tech kits...If you're looking for a shake and bake, this ain't it, but if you're like me and love Bregeuts, get it, but wait until it goes on sale...Similar situation, IMHO, as the AEG:okay at the sale price, but a little steep for what you get at the full price....At least the pre-order price was discounted and Squadron picked up the shipping as well as not charging the cc until shipped. Also, only one of it's kind out there, so probably worth your support if you like these French 2-Seaters. Email me if you have any specific questions.... Regards, John P.S. I guess they didn't sell too many of the Nieuport 24/27 kits as the box bottom is a recycled 24/27 top!!! ************************************************************************ If you received this e-mail in error please delete it and notify the sender as soon as possible. The contents of this e-mail may be confidential and the unauthorized use, copying, or dissemination of it and any attachments to it, is prohibited. Internet communications are not secure and Hyperion does not, therefore, accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message nor for any damage caused by viruses. The views expressed here do not necessarily represent those of Hyperion. For more information about Hyperion, please visit our Web site at www.hyperion.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:06:43 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Making a steering wheel? Message-ID: Michael! >What do folks use to make steering wheels? The RE5 has a >steering wheel attached to the control column. you can fashion this part from: #1 A ring of copper wire, with stretched sprue spokes previously glued on a hub made of a slice of sprue #2 A photoetched part from a similar shape (IIRC Tom's Modelworks have several "steering wheels" intheir British set) #3 a link from a round link chain, from an old piece of jewelry or the small attachment links from a collar or bracelet How is the diameter you requiere for this? D. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:16:41 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Making a steering wheel? Message-ID: D: > you can fashion this part from: > #1 A ring of copper wire, with stretched sprue spokes > previously glued on a Here's a pic of how St.Harry does instrument rings, http://www.wwimodeler.com/harry/chapter2/ch2-5-cockpits-b.htm I do steeringwheels the same way, and like D say's add spokes from stretched sprue (that's the tricky bit) /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:29:41 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Making a steering wheel? Message-ID: This is the 1/72nd scale RE5 vacuform from Roseplane (Rosemont Hobby). I made a small ring from 28-gauge copper wire that looks OK and I can easily do the cross-wise bits. The problem with off-the-shelf control wheels is that the actual ones are different across aeroplanes. but thanks for pointing it out. Michael >From: pfalzdvii@att.net >Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 01:41:23 -0500 (EST) > >Down in their fiddly bits catalog Aeroclub makes WWI control'wheels', >I've >got a couple in my parts stash, What scale? _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:30:55 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Special Hobby Tabloid Questions Message-ID: The 1914 Schneider racer, should really be called the Sopwith Tabloid Schneider racer. It was a Tabloid prototype mounted on floats, with a bigger engine. The aircraft that was put into production early in WW1 was slightly different, it was this that became known as the Sopwith Schneider, it eventually evolved into the Sopwith Baby. The whole thing was a gradual process of changes being introduced on the various batches built, together with modifications, rebuilds etc, this means that every individual Schneider should be researched separately. Differences between the Schneider racer and Schneider naval floatplane are small, the rear fuselage of the naval version was detachable I believe, and the floats were wider, the tailfloat was completely different. Heres my complete description: http://wwi-cookup.com/sopwith/schneider/schneiderracer.html I think an early Tabloid would be easy to build from the Eduard Schneider just by changing u/c, removing ailerons, fin change perhaps, etc, etc. hmmm, maybe there is more to it than I think. Dimensionwise the Eduard Schneider is very good. /Neil C. > Now on to another question I could have sworn there were > differences between > the Sopwith Schnieder and Tabloid but for the life of me i > can only think of > the landing gear and engine. D$%mn I hate this, its almost > what an addict > must feel like cut of from his supply. 2 days and i can start > to unpack. > > Ray > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:41:00 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Making a steering wheel? Message-ID: >From: "Diego Fernetti" >you can fashion this part from: >#1 A ring of copper wire, with stretched sprue spokes previously glued >on >a hub made of a slice of sprue My first thought was that. >#2 A photoetched part from a similar shape (IIRC Tom's Modelworks have >several "steering wheels" intheir British set) I'll take a look but p/e is always flat. >How is the diameter you requiere for this? I don't know - very little I suppose. The way I did the ring of copper wire was to wrap it arround different diameter drill bits until I found the right size. Thanks all for the help. I'll aslo try the model railroad sectionof my local hobby shop. Michael _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:32:30 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Tag lines RE: Re: Engine Cooling fins qn Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B302862E5E@TUFAO> Ah, Does this mean I have to immigrate to Paris and grow a beard? Just for the records and the benefit of the archives, here's the full version of the text: My strine is a toad in disguise Wrote the fool unto the wise. He didn't know what it meant It sounded right, so off it went Over the wire , down to Australia Where elks don't roam neither abound But friends are plenty and easily found So if ever you come across A funny tag coming from Oz Pay it no great attention: It's not even worth to mention The fool who wrote it knew not what it meant It sounded right so off it went Pedro (booking my flight to Sweden for the Ceremony, now. Of Course I'm inviting Neil...) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:35:04 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: New update Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B302862E67@TUFAO> Hey Merrill, Very pretty indeed. The ripper marking is great. Pedro > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Bittner [mailto:tbittners@sprintmail.com] > Sent: sexta-feira, 10 de Janeiro de 2003 11:36 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] New update > > > Merrill Anderson sent in images of an in-progress SPAD XIII. > Cool! > > > Matt Bittner > WW1 Modeling Page > Assistant Editor > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:41:29 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Tag lines RE: Re: Engine Cooling fins qn Message-ID: You mean the Nobel prize thingie? That must be in the bag for sure! Thanks for the invite, I'll be out at the airport looking for a rather curious twin-engined biplane. Don't forget the Port! /Neil C. OT content that biplane had a rather cute predecessor called "the clutching hand", or the comfy coffin, or something. > Pedro > > (booking my flight to Sweden for the Ceremony, now. Of Course > I'm inviting > Neil...) > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:43:42 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: New update Message-ID: I can only get the thumbnail, but that looks great. /Neil C. > > > > > Merrill Anderson sent in images of an in-progress SPAD XIII. > > Cool! > > > > > > Matt Bittner > > WW1 Modeling Page > > Assistant Editor > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 00:49:12 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Tag lines RE: Re: Engine Cooling fins qn Message-ID: >The fool who wrote it knew not what it meant >It sounded right so off it went Which, of course, is not at all true. Great poets like Mr Soares have the ability to draw multifarious mind pictures with mordious words, many of which have no meaning whatever. The 2003 Knoble Prize for Listerature is surely shaping as a battle between the Iberian Aesthete and the Argentinian Author A.Bootlickin-Critic ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 08:47:33 -0600 From: "Harris, Mack" To: "World War I (E-mail)" Subject: Albatros book Message-ID: Don't know if anyone is interested in the Mikesh book. I just got mine but here's another one at a pretty good price. http://half.ebay.com/cat/buy/inv.cgi?offer_id=1139545139&meta_id=1&cpid=2469 649&domain_id=1856 Watch the wrap. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:56:39 -0500 From: SSH To: Subject: Re: Engine Cooling fins qn Message-ID: <20030110145445.B95E2690BC8@mail.mailsnare.net> Merrill, Pedro, Shane, Thanks for the tips. I plan to try both approaches - scored rod and stacked discs, but with brass. Shane, your idea for a jig for stacking is going to be really useful. And of course, I must thank David and Diego for putting this problem in the right perspective and altitude. thanks Sanjeev ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:00:16 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Merrill's Grim Reaper Message-ID: Merrill! That is a tantalizing peek at your Spad - looks very nice. Love the 'Reaper on the side. Will you be able to send in additional photos? Ken S ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 16:01:41 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Nieuport update Message-ID: Good advice from D here, but can you think of a more tiresome part of WW1 modelling, sometimes I wish I didn't like French aircraft so much. /Neil C. > > On slanted tape reinforcements (as I did on my recent > Nieuport 28) I found > more easy to decal one side at a time, wait until the small > decal is dry and > then flip over the strut and make the opposite side. > On perpendicular tape reinforcements (yes those of the Spad!) > winding the > small decal tapes were easier, but you need a steady pulse > and patience to > try several times until you get it tight and in the required > position, > specially those near the strut ends. > HTH > D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:01:10 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Tag lines RE: Re: Engine Cooling fins qn Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B302862ECC@TUFAO> Sheees, man, I'm at work. I can't laugh so loud..... Pedro Ah, you've made my day Shane. Um abraço Pedro > > >The fool who wrote it knew not what it meant > >It sounded right so off it went > > Which, of course, is not at all true. Great poets like Mr > Soares have the > ability to draw multifarious mind pictures with mordious > words, many of > which have no meaning whatever. > > The 2003 Knoble Prize for Listerature is surely shaping as a > battle between > the Iberian Aesthete and the Argentinian Author > > A.Bootlickin-Critic > > > > ******************************** > > My Strine is a Toad in Disguise > > > ******************************** > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:11:57 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Making a steering wheel? Message-ID: Neil! >I do steeringwheels the same way, and like D say's add spokes from >stretched >sprue (that's the tricky bit) It's easier to do a very oversized X or three pointed star aided by a diagram on a waxed piece of paper and when it's thoroughly dry,trim to the desired size D. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:21:01 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Making a steering wheel? Message-ID: Michael! Michael said abour PE wheels >I'll take a look but p/e is always flat. SOmeone on the list mentioned once thicking (as opposed to thinning) the edges with enamel. It may work! D. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:22:49 -0500 From: SSH To: Subject: Re: Albatros book Message-ID: <20030110152055.25F43690BEE@mail.mailsnare.net> Mack, Thanks for the ref. I quickly placed an order just now. Where did you get yours, and for how much? thanks Sanjeev On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:52:05 -0500 (EST), Harris, Mack doth wrote: >Don't know if anyone is interested in the Mikesh book. I just got >mine but >here's another one at a pretty good price. >http://half.ebay.com/cat/buy/inv.cgi?offer_id=1139545139&meta_id=1&cp >id=2469 >649&domain_id=1856 >Watch the wrap. >Mack > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:25:16 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Tag lines RE: Re: Engine Cooling fins qn Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B30288BEE8@TUFAO> I said > > Ah, you've made my day Shane. > > Um abraço > > Pedro > Then the phone rang from home. Francisca just got a note from the post saying I have to pay 25 Euro (about 45 AUD) of import duty to be able to receive a package I ordered from Earl a month ago. Not only they make me pay but they took like forever to dispatch it! Now the total for the order was about 70 AUD. Don't you love customs.... Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:30:53 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Making a steering wheel? Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B30288BF11@TUFAO> > > SOmeone on the list mentioned once thicking (as opposed to > thinning) the > edges with enamel. It may work! > D. > PVA (white wood glue) works ok for me! Pedro (Still angry at customs but eager to see what's inside the package OT: W4 and 504 nightfigher, ot (amongst other thigs): GEE BEE R2 , yes, yes, yes!!!!!!!) Pedro *********************************************** cane toads are no match for customs officers (anonymous but true) ********************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:31:51 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Tag lines RE: Re: Engine Cooling fins qn Message-ID: Pedro, poetically wrote: >Ah, Does this mean I have to immigrate to Paris and grow a beard? That's what you get when you build too many French airplanes! :-) >Just for the records and the benefit of the archives, here's the full >version of the text: -Poem snipped due to copyright issues- Bravo! I'm crying. You must publish your poems in an Antology of your works called "There's a Naglo in your eyes" D. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:32:02 -0600 From: "Harris, Mack" To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Albatros book Message-ID: Sanjeev, I filled out a wish list with Half com, it's a part of ebay, the Mikesh book and just before Christmas got an email that I could buy it for 12.53. Which of course I did very quickly. It arrived a couple of days ago, very nice copy, still all together, no pages coming out yet. that same day I did a search for it and the only copy I could find was 101.00. I love a good bargain! Good luck, I hope you get it. Mack -----Original Message----- From: SSH [mailto:ot811@msbx.net] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 9:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Albatros book Mack, Thanks for the ref. I quickly placed an order just now. Where did you get yours, and for how much? thanks Sanjeev On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:52:05 -0500 (EST), Harris, Mack doth wrote: >Don't know if anyone is interested in the Mikesh book. I just got >mine but >here's another one at a pretty good price. >http://half.ebay.com/cat/buy/inv.cgi?offer_id=1139545139&meta_id=1&cp >id=2469 >649&domain_id=1856 >Watch the wrap. >Mack > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:38:24 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Engine Cooling fins qn Message-ID: Sanjeev wonders: "Has anybody tried to stack brass discs?" Paul Howard must be dozing through this, as he has created an entire PE LeRhone out of brass disks and is fiddling around with getting same produced. Several of us have expressed interest in helping to fund the endeavor so we can get our hands on this. But Paul's a stubborn cuss (Texan, by adoption... what can one do?) and the project is still languishing in Abilene. Maybe with another customer like Sanjeev, the project will get off the ground? Lance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:41:54 -0500 From: SSH To: Subject: Re: Making a steering wheel? Message-ID: <20030110154002.6B16B690BE5@mail.mailsnare.net> >SOmeone on the list mentioned once thicking (as opposed to thinning) >the >edges with enamel. It may work! ------- I have tried this with thick CA, with some success. regards Sanjeev ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:43:36 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: RE: Making a steering wheel? Message-ID: Michael asks: "What do folks use to make steering wheels?" The Fotocut "WWI Parts Extravaganza" has multiple steering wheels with three and four spokes, as well as a myriad of incredibly useful bits. The PE can be easily thickened with either enamel or thinned putty to create a convincing rim. I needed five-spoked wheels for the Felixstowe, which was a little more problematic, but as Matt points out, an hour amongst the HO train bits will yield great dividends. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:45:29 -0500 From: SSH To: Subject: Re: Engine Cooling fins qn Message-ID: <20030110154335.5C4E2690BE5@mail.mailsnare.net> >>>>Maybe with another customer like Sanjeev, the project will get off >the >ground? > >Lance ---------------- er, maybe. My subject is the RAF4 V12 for my Hare Tate. But, perhaps the cylinder parts are similar ? regards Sanjeev ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4908 **********************