WWI Digest 4907 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Making a steering wheel? by "Michael Kendix" 2) RE: Making a steering wheel? by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 3) RE: Retracts by Mike Fletcher 4) Re: New on topic book by Karen Rychlewski 5) Re: the glue factory by "Bob Pearson" 6) Re: the glue factory by mtngoat@flash.net 7) Re: Re The Glue Fatcory by mtngoat@flash.net 8) Re: there was something in the air that night by mtngoat@flash.net 9) Re: Glue Factory by mtngoat@flash.net 10) Re: Holes by mtngoat@flash.net 11) Spad XII complete by Dennis Ugulano 12) Something weird-deja vu? by "Dave Burke" 13) Re: Making a steering wheel? by pfalzdvii@att.net 14) Wheel Masks by mtngoat@flash.net 15) Re: Wheel Masks by "Shane Weier" 16) Re: Wheel Masks by pfalzdvii@att.net 17) RE: U-35 by Crawford Neil 18) Re: the glue factory by Crawford Neil 19) Re: Engine Cooling fins qn by "Pedro N. Soares" 20) RE: Making a steering wheel? by "Pedro N. Soares" 21) Re: Engine Cooling fins qn by "Pedro N. Soares" 22) Re:minisces by "Diego Fernetti" 23) Re: Nieuport update by "Diego Fernetti" 24) Re: Spad XII complete by "Matt Bittner" 25) Re: New on topic book by "Matt Bittner" 26) Re: Making a steering wheel? by "Matt Bittner" 27) RE: Engine Cooling fins qn by "Diego Fernetti" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 03:53:54 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Making a steering wheel? Message-ID: OK, so I sanded out the RE5 fuselage, which took about 15 minutes and all the other stuff was sanded out months ago, so now I have to do the cockpit interior. What do folks use to make steering wheels? The RE5 has a steering wheel attached to the control column. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:57:59 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: Making a steering wheel? Message-ID: <003f01c2b85c$776c1830$f5482dcb@future> Wire. I have used florist wire for this. Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Michael Kendix Sent: Friday, 10 January 2003 2:56 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Making a steering wheel? OK, so I sanded out the RE5 fuselage, which took about 15 minutes and all the other stuff was sanded out months ago, so now I have to do the cockpit interior. What do folks use to make steering wheels? The RE5 has a steering wheel attached to the control column. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 23:21:59 -0500 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Retracts Message-ID: <3E1E4A67.A6FA3497@rogers.com> The 1911 Wencziers monoplane had retractable gear and it wasn't an amphibian - of which there were dozens of pre-ww1 and ww1 examples. Mike Fl. Crawford Neil wrote: > > Got a better suggestion from Anders Bruun on the racer list, > the Dayton-Wright RB from 1920. Can anyone improve on that? > /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 00:06:32 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New on topic book Message-ID: <3E1E54D8.901EC34F@earthlink.net> Matt Bittner wrote: > Cool book! Looks like I'll be getting it before the French ones. ;-) > > Russian Aircraft, 1914-1918. ... Holy Dufaux, Bittnerman!! What *is* that on the cover? Dame Karen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 21:05:03 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: the glue factory Message-ID: <104217536902@smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com> Well I have never said anything but good about his kits. In fact for a few years I was getting two of each kit as it was released. . one to build and one to save. However it may have something to do with the fact that a person whom I used to associate with took every opportunity to badmouth his products and it was under the guise of said organization that I contacted him on a few occasions. Bob ---------- >From: "Steven Perry" > I have had every e-mail to Chris answered. All quite cordially. However I > happen to like B-M and Pegasus kits and have always been complimentary about > the kits I've built. I imagine he might respond, (or not respond) > differently if I'd blasted him about quality issues. I believe he does quite > a bit of the work himself and so it's natural for him to react differently > than a large company when confronted by a negatively toned message. > Complaints can be couched in terms that are not personal. While they may not > be as immediately satisfying to send, they are more often than not met with > more satisfying responses resulting in solved problems rather than ruffled > feathers. > > sp > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 22:27:03 -0700 From: mtngoat@flash.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: the glue factory Message-ID: <3E1E59A7.6040002@flash.net> --------------040804000405070700040500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Abba is good. I have a very old LP that I can no longer listen to, as my record player crapped out years ago. Crawford Neil wrote: >Hey leave ABBA out of this, thats one of the few Swedish groups >I have some respect for, it ain't easy to write something like >chiuitita you know. Incidentally we keep the good swedish music >for ourselves, our rubbish is strictly export only (except ABBA). >/Neil C. er. Sopwith Camel is a nice plane) > > > > > >>I wonder if we can arrange an axis with Northern Kamerad Neil >>to make him >>send some ABBA tapes to this cowboy Burke... >>D. >>nl: "chiquitita" Wow this is powerful stuff! >> >> > > > --------------040804000405070700040500 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Abba is good. I have a very old LP that I can no longer listen to, as my record player crapped out years ago.


Crawford Neil wrote:
Hey leave ABBA out of this, thats one of the few Swedish groups
I have some respect for, it ain't easy to write something like
chiuitita you know. Incidentally we keep the good swedish music
for ourselves, our rubbish is strictly export only (except ABBA).
/Neil C. er. Sopwith Camel is a nice plane)



  
I wonder if we can arrange an axis with Northern Kamerad Neil 
to make him 
send some ABBA tapes to this cowboy Burke...
D.
nl: "chiquitita" Wow this is powerful stuff!

--------------040804000405070700040500-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 22:28:40 -0700 From: mtngoat@flash.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Re The Glue Fatcory Message-ID: <3E1E5A08.7070204@flash.net> Yo. Blues is the best. RocknRoll is 2nd best. c NEIL EDDY wrote: >You're right Diego, we should show compassion...I'll stop with "Eye of The >Tiger" then..... > >I hope DB has learned his lesson..... ;-) > >All the Best > >Neil E >(I love rock n' roll, > Put another coin in the jukebox, baby....) > >Bobolink > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Diego Fernetti" >To: "Multiple recipients of list" >Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:39 PM >Subject: [WWI] Re: Re The Glue Fatcory > > > > >>Neil! >> >> >>>"The Never-Ending Story" would have been more moderate.... >>> >>> >>Holy cripes, Neil! Limahl!!!!!! The Evil Creature created by Giorgio >>Moroder! >>Ain't this a little bit much? >>D. >>Naglo! Naglo! >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. >>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 22:35:11 -0700 From: mtngoat@flash.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: there was something in the air that night Message-ID: <3E1E5B8F.7020201@flash.net> --------------050506040307010302070305 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yo, I would not mind either. Old dude. Crawford Neil wrote: > > > >>>Maybe not if you saw her lately... >>> >>> > >I wouldn't mind! >See: http://www.agnetha.net/AGNETHA.html > >/Neil C. (ABBA country) > > > --------------050506040307010302070305 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yo, I would not mind either.

Old dude.

Crawford Neil wrote:
 
  
Maybe not if you saw her lately...
      

I wouldn't mind!
See: http://www.agnetha.net/AGNETHA.html

/Neil C. (ABBA country)

--------------050506040307010302070305-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 22:37:10 -0700 From: mtngoat@flash.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Glue Factory Message-ID: <3E1E5C06.7030200@flash.net> --------------030000000907060806090107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Abba is good. Carpenters suck and so do Beach Boys. I haven't heard of those others. c ZELNICK, KENNETH T wrote: >D. wrote: > > >>I wonder if we can arrange an axis with Northern Kamerad Neil to make him >>send some ABBA tapes to this cowboy Burke... >> >> > >Hey! I like ABBA. Of course, I also like, among others, the Carpenters (in limited quantities), the Beach Boys, Gary Puckett, and the Ronettes. (And don't forget the Royal >Guardsmen.) > >Ken Zelnick >Who has probably just alienated himself from the entire list. > >Nb: MPM HB W.29 > > > --------------030000000907060806090107 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Abba is good. Carpenters suck and so do Beach Boys. I haven't heard of those others.
c

ZELNICK, KENNETH T wrote:
D. wrote:
  
I wonder if we can arrange an axis with Northern Kamerad Neil to make him 
send some ABBA tapes to this cowboy Burke...
    
 
Hey!  I like ABBA.  Of course, I also like, among others, the Carpenters (in limited quantities), the Beach Boys, Gary Puckett, and the Ronettes.  (And don't forget the Royal
Guardsmen.)
 
Ken Zelnick
Who has probably just alienated himself from the entire list.
 
Nb: MPM HB W.29

--------------030000000907060806090107-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 22:46:54 -0700 From: mtngoat@flash.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Holes Message-ID: <3E1E5E4E.4080204@flash.net> --------------050103090608090104080807 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you Sean. c Sean Brian Kirby wrote: >--- mtngoat@flash.net wrote: > > >>I have not figured out a way to find the strut-holes >>in the wings once I >>have put the lozenge decals on them without ripping >>the thin decal or >>making all kinds of little tiny ugly holesand >>spidery cracks in the decal. >> >> > > >Well, once you have your dimple, a good initial gloss >coat (to insure Lozenge adhesion) and use of setting >agents should reveal the detail of the recess, >post-decal. > > >Sean > >===== >www.pitpass.com > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. >http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > --------------050103090608090104080807 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you Sean.
c

Sean Brian Kirby wrote:
--- mtngoat@flash.net wrote:
  
I have not figured out a way to find the strut-holes
in the wings once I 
have put the lozenge decals on them without ripping
the thin decal or 
making all kinds of little tiny ugly holesand
spidery cracks in the decal.
    


Well, once you have your dimple, a good initial gloss
coat (to insure Lozenge adhesion) and use of setting
agents should reveal the detail of the recess,
post-decal.


Sean

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--------------050103090608090104080807-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 00:49:39 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Spad XII complete Message-ID: <200301100049_MC3-1-23DA-BB6C@compuserve.com> Everyone, My first offering for 2003 is now on line. It's under French, SPAD XII. This was my easiest Pegasus kit, primarily because of the small size and the one piece lower wing. I departed from DURAS to a small degree by cutting all of the inner struts wires with clear stretched sprue. My admiration for anyone who cuts each piece of wire one at a time has just gone through the roof. I was a nervous wreck when it was all said and done. I will be bring home some of my Fokker aircraft to add to the site tomorrow. I will have them posted over the weekend. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 01/10/2003 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 00:41:02 -0600 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Something weird-deja vu? Message-ID: <000701c2b873$3edb3b60$4de479a5@s0024008072> I am also getting posts that were sent some time ago, such as the one that got everyone talking about BM and Pegasus. I shouldn't have replied to it. Sorry about that - my fault. Wonder what it was though. DB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 06:40:35 +0000 From: pfalzdvii@att.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Making a steering wheel? Message-ID: <20030110064039.HGCY9286.mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net@mtiwebc21> Down in their fiddly bits catalog Aeroclub makes WWI control'wheels', I've got a couple in my parts stash, What scale? -- Merrill Anderson > OK, so I sanded out the RE5 fuselage, which took about 15 minutes and all > the other stuff was sanded out months ago, so now I have to do the cockpit > interior. What do folks use to make steering wheels? The RE5 has a > steering wheel attached to the control column. > > Michael > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 23:46:30 -0700 From: mtngoat@flash.net To: WWI Fanatics Subject: Wheel Masks Message-ID: <3E1E6C46.5000503@flash.net> I wish I could find wheel masks for ww1 models. It seems that all they market is ww2 wheel masks. Do I have to make them? Clay ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 16:51:27 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Wheel Masks Message-ID: Clay >I wish I could find wheel masks for ww1 models. It seems that all they >market is ww2 wheel masks. Do I have to make them? I use Tamiya tape and a circle cutter. But then, I'd do the same on a WW2 wheel should I ever fall so low as to build one ;-) Shane ******************************** My Strine is a Toad in Disguise (Pedro Soares, imbiber) ******************************** _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 06:52:09 +0000 From: pfalzdvii@att.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Wheel Masks Message-ID: <20030110065209.XKVV20003.mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net@mtiwebc21> Short answer is "yes" Eduard provides them for some of their newer kits-- Merrill Anderson > I wish I could find wheel masks for ww1 models. It seems that all they > market is ww2 wheel masks. Do I have to make them? > > Clay > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:44:48 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: U-35 Message-ID: resin kit in 1/72 of a sub made by a Czech firm. Kora keeps > coming to mind, > but I don't know it it's right. Don't know if they have OT > subs, but the > standard of the moulding of the one I saw was tops. > > Pedro That ot model I showed you the other day Pedro, was by Kora, the moulding quality was terrific. I wish they would do some OT stuff. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:52:16 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: the glue factory Message-ID: Can't resist answering this one:-) He looks like you, but taller, and even better dressed! /Neil C. > >From: Crawford Neil > >Mr Gannons attitude is way cool, I wish I looked like he > >does! > >/Neil C. (I like his kits too, except the wing top surfaces) > > So, what does he look like:)? > > Michael > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:11:02 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Engine Cooling fins qn Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B302862B2E@TUFAO> Shane, > ********************************* > > "My Strine is a Toad in Disguise" > > (Pedro Soares, Poet) > > ********************************* Do I get royalties, then? ;-) Pedro (Future (or Kleer or Mopandshine) Nobel) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:13:21 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Making a steering wheel? Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B302862B3A@TUFAO> Like Ross, I've used wire. In my case copper wire from an old cheap transformer and CA. Pedro > -----Original Message----- > From: Ross & Wendy Moorhouse [mailto:rossmoor@bigpond.net.au] > Sent: sexta-feira, 10 de Janeiro de 2003 4:00 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: Making a steering wheel? > > > Wire. I have used florist wire for this. > > Cheers > > Ross > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:28:09 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Engine Cooling fins qn Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B302862B9E@TUFAO> Shane, the literary critic, claims, The limiting factor was the sizes of > punch I had, > something I could probably fix by buying the other set as > well, and maybe a > third set from another manufacture - Holy Greenbacks Batman! I've been agonising for ages about getting sufficient spending momentum to let gow of quite a few Euro bills and buy me a Waldron P&D set, which will have to be imported since I've never seen one locally. But for disks over 1mm I can find here (in increments of .5 or 1mm, I believe) punch tools that are cheap, something like 1 Euro per punch. The other day at one of those cheap sell anything stores I found a punch set with 6 punches for 1,5 Euro. Pedro (Punch line Poet) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:56:22 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re:minisces Message-ID: Ken S. said this thruth as big as a house: >I bet all of us have found >ourselves humming or whistling some tune only to exclaim "My Gosh, I am NOT >supposed to like that! It's soooo un-cool!" >If it's that good to you, got to be good for you. Me? never, never! D. nm(now mumbling): "Shady's back... back again... _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:09:44 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nieuport update Message-ID: Pedro! >OK, the celon is on. Well done, barave lad! >I really don't know if I'll be able to wind the decal >around the strut, since it is so thin, but I want to at least give it a >try. >If it won't work, Ill paint strips directly on the strut. On slanted tape reinforcements (as I did on my recent Nieuport 28) I found more easy to decal one side at a time, wait until the small decal is dry and then flip over the strut and make the opposite side. On perpendicular tape reinforcements (yes those of the Spad!) winding the small decal tapes were easier, but you need a steady pulse and patience to try several times until you get it tight and in the required position, specially those near the strut ends. HTH D. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 05:21:49 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Spad XII complete Message-ID: > My first offering for 2003 is now on line. It's under French, SPAD > XII. It looks great! One of these days I need to break out one of mine . Along with the other 800 or so unbuilt kits. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 05:22:05 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: New on topic book Message-ID: > Holy Dufaux, Bittnerman!! What *is* that on the cover? No idea, but it's definitely scary! Matt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 05:22:59 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Making a steering wheel? Message-ID: On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 22:55:24 -0500 (EST), Michael Kendix wrote: > OK, so I sanded out the RE5 fuselage, which took about 15 minutes and all > the other stuff was sanded out months ago, so now I have to do the cockpit > interior. What do folks use to make steering wheels? The RE5 has a > steering wheel attached to the control column. Another option would be to look to the model railroad section of the hobby shop. Numerous photoetch "hand brakes" for rolling stock and the like, no doubt something could be found to work. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:23:02 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Engine Cooling fins qn Message-ID: Paul wrote: >That proves the case that living in high altitudes causes MMT* from lack of >oxygen. Man, this crazy Jim Landon also lives on the Rockies. I detect a pattern here... D. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4907 **********************