WWI Digest 4901 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Spad propeller colour by Crawford Neil 2) RE: balanced or unbalanced by "Pedro N. Soares" 3) RE: translation! by "Diego Fernetti" 4) RE: Erics Ilya wasRE: Czechs and Slovaks know better! w by "Diego Fernetti" 5) RE: Spad propeller colour by "Diego Fernetti" 6) RE: translation! by "Pedro N. Soares" 7) Re: Special Hobby Tabloid Questions by "Lance Krieg" 8) RE: balanced or unbalanced by "Diego Fernetti" 9) RE: Spad propeller colour by "Pedro N. Soares" 10) RE: Spad propeller colour by Crawford Neil 11) Re: balanced or unbalanced by "Mark Shannon" 12) Re: the longest wait by "Stuart L. Malone" 13) Pedro's Nieuport (was Re: translation!) by tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) 14) Re: translation! by "Lance Krieg" 15) RE: Spad propeller colour by Crawford Neil 16) Re: Spad propeller colour by "Lance Krieg" 17) RE: Spad propeller colour by "Diego Fernetti" 18) Re: Henry Botterell Pt. II by "Brent Theobald" 19) Re: elogent scales by Ken Schmitt 20) RE: Spad propeller colour by "Diego Fernetti" 21) Re: the scent of elogence by Ken Schmitt 22) RE: Pedro's Nieuport (was Re: translation!) by "Pedro N. Soares" 23) Re: Urquell rules by Ken Schmitt 24) Re: translation! by tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) 25) Re: DFW-28 Floh by Eduard by "NEIL EDDY" 26) Re: Spad propeller colour by "Diego Fernetti" 27) RE: Pedro's Nieuport (was Re: translation!) by Crawford Neil 28) Re: balanced or unbalanced by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 29) Something a little Different by "Brent Theobald" 30) RE: balanced or unbalanced by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 31) Re: balanced or unbalanced by "Thomas Solinski" 32) Chemical question - Future and Solvaset by "Michael Kendix" 33) Re: the glue factory by "Hans Trauner" 34) RE: Computer problems by "David C. Fletcher" 35) Re: Chemical question - Future and Solvaset by "Mark Shannon" 36) Marc Flake's latest by tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) 37) RE: balanced or unbalanced by "David C. Fletcher" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:54:12 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Spad propeller colour Message-ID: Wow congrats, pictures, pictures etc.... I do my Spad propellers in Mahogny, can't remember why originally, but I think it's right. Put a logo on if you like, some have some don't, Lumiere and Helice are two names that pop up in my head, I can scan something if you like. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 14:53:30 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: balanced or unbalanced Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B30282C744@TUFAO> Mack, balanced: me unbalanced: all the Australians: Diego, Shane, Ross, Neil, Shane, Lorna, etc This would be better explained by Commander Fletcher but I think it has to do with the way the control surfaces regain their natural (neutral) attitude. Wheights are involved for this... Oh, heck, Dave please explain it, Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 14:59:57 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: translation! Message-ID: Pedro! >The tapes on the wings really stand out after a coat of paint in a most >cultural, mordious and multifarious way. Blessed be St. Alberto for this wonderful discovery! >I'm still a long way from finishing it. I'm planning to do some >differentiating on the silver dope according to metal, wood and fabric >areas >and I've only sprayed the base coat. I've seen quite different finishes in silver nieuports as well, with covered wooden areas shinier or darker than the fabric covering. Why would be that? Light conditions when the picture was taken? A particularity of the type of film exposed? Some wear on the airframe that shifts the brighter areas of the materials? Some Nieuports appear to have the metal portions painted with silver paint as well (enamel?) but others have less shine on them... would that be that the metal fittings were painted light blue, like we have seen in other French machines? my head is aching D. I'll take a picture >tonight of how it looks now and send it to the gallery. > >Pedro _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 15:01:55 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Erics Ilya wasRE: Czechs and Slovaks know better! w Message-ID: Nigel wrote: >Have you ever noticed how after several bottles of Czech beer, you >are CONVINCED you can speak Czech fluently......... .. and I thought that after a session of Guinness I started to chat in Gaelic! D. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 15:04:15 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Spad propeller colour Message-ID: Neil! >Wow congrats, pictures, pictures etc.... Hold your horses! I still have to rig the beast, using your tips on the Spad XII article... let's see if I can make it work! >I do my Spad propellers in Mahogny, can't remember why originally, >but I think it's right. Put a logo on if you like, some have >some don't, Lumiere and Helice are two names that pop up in my head, >I can scan something if you like. I'll be elated if you do, Thanks a lot in advance. Anyway, I have some neat logos of Levasseur that someone gave me once (it was you Bob?) D. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:07:01 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: translation! Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B302861ED0@TUFAO> > > Blessed be St. Alberto for this wonderful discovery! On my knees, I am. > > > I've seen quite different finishes in silver nieuports as > well, with covered > wooden areas shinier or darker than the fabric covering. Why > would be that? Different absortion qualities between wood and fabric, I'd say Pedro > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 09:08:15 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Special Hobby Tabloid Questions Message-ID: Ray pines for something to do: "The Cowls are the slots already cut out or have they given you the option of making your own depending on which aircraft. Does the cowl have the flat wide brace molded in for the nine cyclinder engine? or is it completely curved for the seven cyclinder engines." There are two curved cowls, one with 2 slots and one with 5. There is no brace (that I can identify) for larger engines. "... a choice of 7 or 9 cylinder Gnome Monosoupe." 7 cylinder only. "Have they given you the option of floats and wheels. For wheels are there V Struts and skids/wheels?" Wheels only, but spoked or covered, and a choice between the Vee-strut U/C or skidded. "Enlarged rudder?" Nope. "What about decals..." Three military machines; 1214 of No. 1 Squadron RNAS with the Lewis gun firing through deflector plates, and 326 and 394 of the RFC, unarmed single-seaters. No Union flags, no racing decals. "What about the rear turtledeck as it meets the tailplane?" I assume this is to "swoop" llike later Sopwith products? Alas, no, and the horizontal tailplane perches above the fuselage in an atypical fashion. No harder to fix than any other model of a Sopwith, however. "I would ask about Kingpost and V channel behind the firewall, but I am pretty sure the Tabloid had a closed in kingpost and no V shaped channel." That's what's provided... To complete the discussion, there are 45 plastic parts, 4 resin, and a dozen or so simple PE bits. There is an unused pair of ailerons provided, but no wings prepared to receive them. Rib tapes are a little ... er, dramatic, but overall the kit is very similar to a Gavia or Hi-Tech offering and can be a prize winner with a little effort. Is there not also a Schneider released, which ought to have floats, a 9-cylinder engine? I don't have that kit... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 15:06:04 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: balanced or unbalanced Message-ID: Pedro the balanced one wrote: >unbalanced: all the Australians: Diego, Shane, Ross, Neil, Shane, Lorna, >etc That must be the reason why I find so hard to ride a bicycle. D. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:08:47 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Spad propeller colour Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B302861EDB@TUFAO> Neil of the great white says: Put a logo on if you like, some have > some don't, Lumiere and Helice are two names that pop up in my head, Moulin Rouge and Armagnac are quite flashy too :-) as Frozen Neil says Mahogany looks swell. Check Guynemer's Spad at le Bourget. http://www.mae.org/m_col.htm No logo sticker on this one. Pedro > I can scan something if you like. > /Neil C. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 16:10:56 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Spad propeller colour Message-ID: > > Hold your horses! I still have to rig the beast, using your > tips on the Spad > XII article... let's see if I can make it work! > Hah Hah, good luck! /Neil C. (chuckling quietly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 09:10:52 -0600 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: balanced or unbalanced Message-ID: Nigel gave an excellent description, I just wanted to add a bit about the 'why' balanced and unbalanced. An unbalanced control surface - be it on a plane or boat - tends to trail its hinges. More effort is required to bring it out of neutral position and it tends to want to go back to neutral. A balanced control surface is unstable around the neutral position, and so moves more easily from neutral. They must be brought back to neutral by deliberate movements of the controls. As you might guess, then, balanced control surfaces become preferred for fast-reaction vehicles - fighters and warships - and desirable for larger ones - liners and multiengined bombers. The effort to start a control movement is greatly reduced. On the other hand, the balanced surface must be held in neutral by the pilot or helmsman. The surface may undergo reversal of trim under some conditions - sometimes the rudder, say, might feel too light and lacking feedback, other times it is too heavy. There is also some loss of efficiency of the flow in aerodynamic balancing because of the bit sticking out 'the wrong way'. If the controls get away or get pushed to extreme conditions, severe damage could occur including loss of the control surface (applying too much aileron in a hard dive, for instance). Unbalanced surfaces are used when there is no particular need for quick response, speeds are slow, or when economy is the ruling principle (take a look at the rudders on most bulk cargo carrier merchant ships through the second unpleasantness and the controls of the Albatross C.III or Be.2c). .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 08:55:46 -0600 From: "Stuart L. Malone" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: the longest wait Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20030108084456.00b0b3f8@pop-server.kc.rr.com> Well, not the first time I missed the boat on a kit....... I do have parts of one that was half built by a friend who lost interest in the genre (GASP), but it's missing all the fiddly bits. It would take the effort of building a Merlin to restore this to its full glory. So, anyone out there have a spare they would care to part with? Any interested parties can contact me off list. Thanks. Stuart L. Malone At 09:31 PM 1/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: >They did. I built one. It was in the same series of box as the D.V issued in >mid-90s. >sp > > > I vaguely remember hearing a rumor that Airfix was going to re-release > > their 1/72nd Hannover. I don't know if there was any "official" release > > concerning the subject, but that was back in 1988 or so when you could get > > all the other OT Airfix kits. > > > > Stuart L. Malone > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:57:00 -0600 (CST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Pedro's Nieuport (was Re: translation!) Message-ID: <200301081457.h08Ev0999003@king1.kingsnake.com> > I'm still a long way from finishing it. I'm planning to do some > differentiating on the silver dope according to metal, wood and fabric areas > and I've only sprayed the base coat. Since aluminum paints take like forever > to go real dry it'll will take some time yet but anyway I'll take a picture > tonight of how it looks now and send it to the gallery. What markings are you finishing it in? Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 09:18:11 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: translation! Message-ID: Matt continues to be difficult: "There's no logic to 1/48th." You jest, of course... 1/4 inch = 1 foot, as old as scale modelling itself. "1/72nd, a six-foot person is one inch. How big is a one foot person in 1/48th? Hmmm?" A one foot person in 1/48 is 1/4 inch. No wonder people pick on Nebraskans... Perhaps news of a moved and greatly expanded Hobby Haven will lure you back to Des Moines? I found all sorts of interesting bits in there! Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 16:19:45 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Spad propeller colour Message-ID: > Moulin Rouge and Armagnac are quite flashy too :-) > > I bet you can't ride a bicycle either;-) And Diego can't becuase he swapped it for a one-off Merlin vac Naglo! /Neil (-16C.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 09:23:39 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Spad propeller colour Message-ID: " Should it carry a logo on the blades?" A lot of them did... and if it is Integrale, you can swipe a pair off that German decal logos sheet!: http://www.wwi-models.org/Photos/Fre/SPAD7/les7_01.jpg Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 15:22:27 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Spad propeller colour Message-ID: Neil on the Fjords wrote: >Hah Hah, good luck! >/Neil C. (chuckling quietly) Hmmmmmmmm....... D. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 15:16:15 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Henry Botterell Pt. II Message-ID: Howdy! Mike Muth says: >Bittersweet feelings. I love reading about guys like this, but feel >sad >that they have left us. Ah yes, but aren't we glad they were here? For such a long time too. That alone is a victory of another sort. Brent _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 09:30:01 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Re: elogent scales Message-ID: Matthew! Work smarter, not harder! "1/48 the height". > How big is a one foot person in 1/48th? Hmmm? Be careful with that word "big" as opposed to 'height' or 'high'... Pedro's lovely 17 not-with-standing, a 72 guy is ... well... smaller. ; ) Ken S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 15:20:03 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Spad propeller colour Message-ID: Pedro! >Check Guynemer's Spad at le >Bourget. >http://www.mae.org/m_col.htm >No logo sticker on this one. Thanks! But no decals mean less things to be worried on my model, and that mean that I won't have excuses to finish it.. oh what a conumdrum! D. conumdrum, ellucidate, what's happening to me today? _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 09:32:14 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Re: the scent of elogence Message-ID: Matthew "bee" Bittner sez: > Gee, you make a spelling error, and never live it down. I can't speak for the others - I smelled it right away. Ken S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:31:44 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Pedro's Nieuport (was Re: translation!) Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B302861F39@TUFAO> Monsieur Bittner demandes: > - > > What markings are you finishing it in? Capitaine Guynemer, of course... (carpena sheet) Pedro > > > Matt > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 09:35:27 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Re: Urquell rules Message-ID: elucidation would soon sort... > Have you ever noticed how after several bottles of Czech beer, you > are CONVINCED you can speak Czech fluently......... > N > > hic! cheers Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 09:15:56 -0600 (CST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: translation! Message-ID: <200301081515.h08FFus00113@king1.kingsnake.com> I quit. I'm not saying anything, anymore. Can life get anymore difficult? > Perhaps news of a moved and greatly expanded Hobby Haven will lure you > back to Des Moines? I found all sorts of interesting bits in there! I am definitely looking forward to seeing that. Probably not until West Des Moines' contest, though. An embarrassed (or did I misspel that as will?) Matt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 02:34:02 +1100 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: DFW-28 Floh by Eduard Message-ID: <001801c2b72b$5fdd2380$578386cb@default> Shane Sez... "Hi, I'm a modeller from Australia. I don't have any friends at all because I'm the list grouch,"..... Correction: Translation from Queenslandish to Australian English should read..... "Hi I'm a modeller from Queensland and that is why I don't have any friends (which is why I am a grouch). :-) Neil E (Somewhat South of the Goss-Carr Line) PS: I finally got the stripes and star fuselage decal on the Pfalz tonight (Message to Self: I must not avoid modelling, I must not avoid modelling....) N. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 15:39:12 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Spad propeller colour Message-ID: Lance! >A lot of them did... and if it is Integrale, you can swipe a pair off >that German decal logos sheet!: >http://www.wwi-models.org/Photos/Fre/SPAD7/les7_01.jpg Ahhhhhh..... Mordious! This one have the propeller blades covered in fabric! Neat! D. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 16:42:25 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Pedro's Nieuport (was Re: translation!) Message-ID: Tres bien, mon ami:-) /Neil C. > > Capitaine Guynemer, of course... (carpena sheet) > > Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:44:52 +0000 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: balanced or unbalanced Message-ID: ...... I just wanted to add a bit........ >.Mark. But did you wave your arms as you did the description? Brilliant. N -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 16:02:32 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Something a little Different Message-ID: Howdy Gang! I found a Polish Fokker D.VII on this page. Pretty interesting. http://www.gpm.pl/m1.html Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 03:19:58 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: balanced or unbalanced Message-ID: <3E1C4FAE.8107C72@tac.com.au> Pedro, > Mack, > > balanced: me HMMMMMMMMMM > unbalanced: all the Australians: Diego, Shane, Ross, Neil, Shane, Lorna, etc If by unbalanced you mean lucky, smart & good looking (well except Ross that is) - yeah we'll go along with that ;-þ StY ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:16:45 -0600 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: Re: balanced or unbalanced Message-ID: <007c01c2b731$570dd500$9eb40c44@ok.cox.net> Hi neighbor! In OT aircraft a *ballanced* surface usually has some surface area in front of the hinge line. ie the Fokk Dr-I aileron. This little tab helped ballance the forces needed to move the flight control in the direction desired by letting the airflow apply a little force to move the surface in the same direction. note that this ballance area MUST be smaller than the rest of the flight control or it will never stay in the neutral positon. On ot aircraft the flight controls are often statically ballanced with weights that are ahead of the hinge line. This is often done to eliminate a flutter problem and make the flight control easier to move because you're only fighting the airload and not the weight of the flight control. HTH MrT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harris, Mack" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 7:35 AM Subject: [WWI] balanced or unbalanced > Okay, I'll admit I'm just not up on aeronautical terms as I should be, but > would someone please explain balanced and unbalanced to me. And how you can > tell by looking that ailerons or elevators are balanced or unbalanced? > thanks > Mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 17:18:59 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Chemical question - Future and Solvaset Message-ID: This is a question for our resident MIT Ph.D. chemist though anyone can feel free to chime in. having only scrapped through my Physics-with-Chemistry O'level in 1974, I didn't have the opportunity to study organic chemistry. Is it the case that Solvaset contains some form of alcohol? If so, won't this react with acrylics such as Future? My experience tells me it defintely does react with Future, though the less potent (red bottle) in the Micro-set solution does not seem to have such an effect. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:36:40 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: the glue factory Message-ID: <001101c2b73c$810c8f80$38bc72d4@FRITZweb> > Hans reports dirrect from Hunland's hearrrtland> says Diego. I'm living in the middle of the northern hemisphere. When this is the heart area, where do YOU live, Diego? Hans ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 09:48:23 -0800 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Computer problems Message-ID: <3E1C6467.1000802@mars.ark.com> Diego Fernetti wrote: >>Yes Diego, "ellucidate" really exists and its meaning is as you intended. > > Gee when I wrote it, was a shot in the dark! I'm glad it made sense. Brilliant use of English, Diego! 'Elucidate' being 'to shed light upon' and a 'a shot in the dark' as a counterbalance. Maybe we should start exchanging puns... Dave Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 11:46:35 -0600 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: Chemical question - Future and Solvaset Message-ID: I fear that this is a chancy mix. Solvaset is pretty strong stuff. It might be possible with the following precautions: Make sure the Future has thoroughly dried. Preferably a couple of days. Don't use large, puddling amounts of Solvaset. and it would work easily if you use slightly diluted (about 30% water added) Solvaset to start, then use the full strength stuff on the reluctant areas. Solvaset seems to be similar to the 90% isopropyl alcohol. This latter stuff will remove Humbrol paint if you apply it and rub a little, so it is a chancy thing on acrylics. .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:29:59 -0600 (CST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Marc Flake's latest Message-ID: <200301081729.h08HTxq07111@king1.kingsnake.com> Check out the latest from Marc Flake. Awesome! A couple of questions, Marc. What scale are the water-based models and who makes the sub? Thanks to Al for posting these. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 09:55:32 -0800 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: balanced or unbalanced Message-ID: <3E1C6614.9000305@mars.ark.com> Pedro N. Soares wrote: > This would be better explained by Commander Fletcher but I think it has to > do with the way the control surfaces regain their natural (neutral) > attitude. Wheights are involved for this... > Oh, heck, Dave please explain it, It has already been well-explained by others before I downloaded my mail. Oddly, I have two "ot" 1:1 scale aircraft of the same type and one has a balanced rudder and one does not. I can send pictures that illustrate this better than a description. Who asked the original question and I'll send direct? BTW, that should be "Wing Commander", commander is a naval rank. As a total aside, Royal Air Force officer ranks were based on naval ranks in deference to the RNAS and 'other ranks' were based on the Army equivalents to recognize the Royal Flying Corps input into the combined service. Dave Fletcher (actually retired as a Lieutenant-Colonel because in Canada we switched rank designations back to the army equivalents! - very confusing) ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4901 **********************