WWI Digest 4895 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Hi folks!!nice to meet ya! all...(:o) by Daniel Hayward 2) Re: Mac Phonix D1 by "Steven Perry" 3) Re: Shane The Streaker (Pt 1) by "Shane Weier" 4) Re: Shane The Streaker (pt 2) by "Shane Weier" 5) Re: Oefag Alb. DIII Roden was Re: Re: Longest awaited release? by "Pedro Soares" 6) Re: Oefag Alb. DIII Roden was Re: Re: Longest awaited release? by "Shane Weier" 7) Re: Oefag Alb. DIII Roden was Re: Re: Longest awaited release? by "Shane Weier" 8) Re: Hi folks!!nice to meet ya! all...(:o) by "Shane Weier" 9) Re: Roden SE-5a et al. by "Shane Weier" 10) Re: Hi folks!!nice to meet ya! all...(:o) by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_H=E9ctor_AFFLITTO_ECHAG=DCE?= 11) Re: Mac Phonix D1 by Daniel Hayward 12) Re: Oefag Alb. DIII Roden was Re: Re: Longest awaited release? by RadspadMike@netscape.net 13) Re: Oefag Alb. DIII Roden was Re: Re: Longest awaited release? by "Pedro Soares" 14) Re: Oefag Alb. DIII Roden was Re: Re: Longest awaited release? by "Shane Weier" 15) Re: Roden SE-5a et al. by Ray 16) Re: Mac Phonix D1 by sm5192@verizon.net 17) the longest wait by "M.G. Sheftall" 18) Re: Hi folks!!nice to meet ya! all...(:o) by sm5192@verizon.net 19) Color question by Kerry Lynn 20) Re: Hi folks!!nice to meet ya! all...(:o) by "Pedro Soares" 21) Re: the longest wait by "Shane Weier" 22) Re: Color question by "Shane Weier" 23) Re: Color question by "Pedro Soares" 24) Re: Hi folks!!nice to meet ya! all...(:o) by "Dave Burke" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 15:36:39 -0400 From: Daniel Hayward To: Subject: Re: Hi folks!!nice to meet ya! all...(:o) Message-ID: > My mane is Fernando Torre .i am 41 and i am a modelholic.? Welcome Fern! Now I can see why you had trouble getting on the list, I think you are sending emails in HTML format. Hopefully the more knowledgable people here can help you with that. Good to have you here! Dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 15:37:49 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Mac Phonix D1 Message-ID: <003501c2b5c3$7af01600$64a8a8c0@tampabay.rr.com> Most likely it was varnished ply, possibly stained darker. No specific references immediately to hand, but this was a fairly common A-H practice. sp > Can anybody tell me what the underside of the fuselage of a Phonix D1 would > look like? Would it be brown-daubbed like the rest of the fuselage and tops > of the wings or was it something else? Help! > > Dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 07:39:37 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Shane The Streaker (Pt 1) Message-ID: Sean, >Saw your streaked olive effect on that Dr.1. Loved it! >How'd you do that? You let the brush get drier, as you >moved to starboard, then re-dip? It's really nice. :) Thanks, and yes, that's more or less how it was done. Errrrmm This is taken from a description sent to Pedro in January last year. I'll send it in two parts in case the posting limit is exceeded PART 1 Bear in mind that this is my interpretation of a Fokker streaky finish, and I did it this way partly to try yet another technique, and partly because I *had* to, having promised to build the kit for a club contest. The kit is the Eduard, built mostly Out of Box. I finished the fuselage and empennage except the rudder, and attached the lower wings *only*, then painted all upper and side surfaces with a mix of Humbrol 121 and Humbrol Satin white (whatever number that is!) Humbrol 121 is a pale buff colour I like as a basis for CDL, and I lightened it with about 30% white because I find it otherwise looks too dark on small subjects. NO scale colour ratios, just what looked right. Paint was diluted with Humbrols own thinner and sprayed, then left about 48 hours. Mask out the crossfields. For the Olive colour I used Modelmaster 1711 (Olive Drab 34087) right out of the bottle, and a flat sable brush 1/8 inch wide. I put a dab of OD on a pallette and used an old brush to and Modelmaster thinner to thin it until it reached a consistency rather thinner than you'd use to spray. The object is to produce a very translucent paint. Then with the sable brush I laid in a line at the dark end of each band of OD, following up by widening each band until I was close to the next band. Let it be streaky, and if it's thinner at the end it's meant to be thin, then good. This may take several wet mixes of translucent paint. I did one wing per mix, one fuselage side per mix and so on, because I only made enough that I could use it before it dried too much on the pallette. Go away for an hour or two. Make another wet mix, do the same again, this time *only darken the dark side of the painted strip by overpainting - and a few streaks around the middle* Don't overpaint the light side of the streaks. Go away for an hour or two. Do it again. Overpaint Only a narrow strip at the darkest end. It will now be close to dark enough. Let it dry Last time. Now use a fine brush dipped in Aeromaster thinner and then touched on a rag so it's barely damp, and artistically remove any streaks that are too dark, or make narrow unpainted bands as are often seen. Use a broader brush ditto to lighten wider areas, and a fine brush with thinned paint to add the darkest streaks. (End PART 1) Shane _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 07:41:53 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Shane The Streaker (pt 2) Message-ID: PART 2 IMPORTANT: Humbrol, once cured is pretty tough paint. The Modelmaster thinner isn't very "hot" and so long as you don't scrub the devil out of it won't remove the CDL coat. If I'd used Humbrol thinner (or another "hotter" one) for the streaking it would have messed things up! ALSO IMPORTANT: Don't get the brush too wet or it'll run, or too dry, or it'll pull up clumps. Sounds like a killer, but I didn't take but a minute to get it just right, and when hamfistedness intervened it was easy enough to let dry and remove/replace the dodgy bits. It helps that the finish is supposed to be uneven though! Mask and spray the undersurface turquoise including the narrow returns. Uncover the crossfields and mask and paint with white. Because I was doing Weiss' machine I then overpainted the upper wing, upper and rear fuselage and tailplane with translucent satin white, using a couple of light coats to get the effect of translucency revealing the streak underneath, and the whitest whites only on the crossfields. More masking for the red bits in this case, and for the olive on the upper front fuselage then final assembly. Incidentally, I got so damn enthusiastic about the streaking I even did it on the top of the axle fairing. Anyone care to speculate why that makes me a right fool? There's nothing particularly clever about this method. It was hower, real easy and very repeatable, so I may use it when I build a proper model of a triplane, in 1/48 ;-) Shane _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 21:48:57 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Oefag Alb. DIII Roden was Re: Re: Longest awaited release? Message-ID: <000f01c2b5cd$6bc83040$69fb16d5@netcabo.pt> Hey, Don't get me wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!! I ABSOLUTELY LOVE RODEN and I think they come first in value for money. I've made a fair amount of Toko/Roden kits and I agree they keep getting better all the time. I don't care about sanding or filler. If it has to be done, it's done. Still there have been better fitting kits from Roden IMHO, that's all. IfI didn't like Roden kits how would I explain the stacks of them down in the basement? Maybe I sounded pxxxed off, but I treally wasn't. It's only that sanding putty is one part of the hobby I most hate (comes right in second after airbrush cleaning). BTW, Ray, still haven't tried the Aztek. Couldn't find an adapter for the hose. I'm working on it though. Pedro (Who is most anxiously looking forward to the SE5a) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:14 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Oefag Alb. DIII Roden was Re: Re: Longest awaited release? > Pedro, you are too good a modeler to give in to a "groan-fest". Roden has it's > problems, but they are getting better, and modeling withpout problems is BORING! > Merrill > > Michael says: > > > > Roden is set to release a couple of SE5a's and a Bristol > > > F.2B plus the multitude of Albatros that have been released by them in the > > > past few months. > > > > > > I only wish the Biff and the SE5 will not need the same amount of filler > > that the Albatros DIII does. Boy I've been sanding away filler for two days > > in a row and I'm not done with it yet. I wonder how Bill Arnold managed to > > get away with it so fast, not to talk about Dennis slow fingers Ugulano. It > > took me more time to putty one Albatros that it did for Dennis to entirely > > build one.... > > > > Ah, and if you are thinking of building one, be sure to shave the front of > > the engine or else the round front cover won't fir at all. As it is it only > > won't fit but can be forced in place with glue, elbow grease and putty, > > loads of it. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 08:17:25 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Oefag Alb. DIII Roden was Re: Re: Longest awaited release? Message-ID: Pedro says: >I only wish the Biff and the SE5 will not need the same amount of >filler >that the Albatros DIII does. Boy I've been sanding away filler >for two >days in a row and I'm not done with it yet. I wonder how Bill >Arnold >managed to get away with it so fast, not to talk about Dennis slow fingers >Ugulano. It took me more time to putty one Albatros that it did for Dennis >to entirely build one.... It *might* be just your kit, rather than the whole run of them. I have one closed up and awaiting wings which fell together quite neatly after a bit of trimming of flash and dry fitting. I'll probably finish it *next* time I have a few days almost alone at work and need a project that fits in a chinese takeaway container ;-) Shane _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 08:23:25 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Oefag Alb. DIII Roden was Re: Re: Longest awaited release? Message-ID: Merrill, >Roden has it's problems, but they are getting better, and modeling withpout >problems is BORING! Hurrah. A man after my own heart. After I mentioned Tamiya earlier Michael posted that we don't need Tamiya to produce WW1 subjects for us. Hell, I agree except IMO I *want* Tamiya to *not* make WW1 subjects. I've bought several Tamiya kits in the last 10 years and sold all of them practically unopened. Too damned boring, not just the subjects but the absolute lack of challenge. Of course, this comes back to where I get my fun from modelling. If I were one of the modellers building a representative collection of *whatever subject* I'd probably be delighted to have some throw together kits to speed up the process. I've seen and enjoyed many such collections, but they aren't me. Shane _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 08:26:18 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hi folks!!nice to meet ya! all...(:o) Message-ID: Fernando >My mane is Fernando Torre .i am 41 and i am a modelholic.? Welcome from Brisbane, Australia (and thanks to Dan fro such efficient recruiting!) Shane _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 08:31:23 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Roden SE-5a et al. Message-ID: Pedro says: >Pedro (Who is most anxiously looking forward to the SE5a) You might be surprised to know that I'm waiting almost as anxiously for the Biff.... Shane _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 19:50:32 -0300 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_H=E9ctor_AFFLITTO_ECHAG=DCE?= To: Subject: Re: Hi folks!!nice to meet ya! all...(:o) Message-ID: <009e01c2b5d6$05216a60$45b3e818@fibertel.com.ar> Welcome Fer !!! from Buenos Aires Argentina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fernando" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:14 PM Subject: [WWI] Hi folks!!nice to meet ya! all...(:o) > C'est un message de format MIME en plusieurs parties. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C2B597.97C5B180 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hello .All! > > my friend Dan Hayward has been telling me that i should get on list = > .and join in on the fun!..so here iam ! > =20 > I have been trying to get on this list since last Saturday but had a = > tough time getting through, > > Let me introduce my self a little=20 > > My mane is Fernando Torre .i am 41 and i am a modelholic.? > > regards=20 > Fern > > Fernando Torre > Sherrington, PQ > Canada =20 > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C2B597.97C5B180 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > >
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> > ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C2B597.97C5B180-- > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 18:04:39 -0400 From: Daniel Hayward To: Subject: Re: Mac Phonix D1 Message-ID: > Most likely it was varnished ply, possibly stained darker. No specific > references immediately to hand, but this was a fairly common A-H practice. > sp > Thanks Steven, I'll go with that. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 18:29:52 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Oefag Alb. DIII Roden was Re: Re: Longest awaited release? Message-ID: <1DDFB7C6.43AC8D38.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Too right! Blood, sweat and tears . . . and some "expletives deleted". If it wasn't for that precarious feeling that I'm on the verge of a big screwup, it wouldn't be any fun at all. Then too, there's a lot more personal satifaction when you finish it . . . something I haven't experienced much. ;-( Mike Kavanaugh "Shane Weier" wrote: >Merrill, > >>Roden has it's problems, but they are getting better, and modeling withpout >>problems is BORING! > >Hurrah. A man after my own heart. >Of course, this comes back to where I get my fun from modelling. If I were >one of the modellers building a representative collection of *whatever >subject* I'd probably be delighted to have some throw together kits to speed >up the process. I've seen and enjoyed many such collections, but they aren't >me. > >Shane > __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 23:50:54 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Oefag Alb. DIII Roden was Re: Re: Longest awaited release? Message-ID: <01fd01c2b5de$74aa9a20$69fb16d5@netcabo.pt> Shane, > It *might* be just your kit, rather than the whole run of them. I have one > closed up and awaiting wings which fell together quite neatly after a bit of > trimming of flash and dry fitting. I'm building 2 at a time.One had a fuse half slightly warped, so it gave a bit more trouble. But I had a bit of problem with both. On one, probably due to the afore mentioned warpage, I had trouble fitting the cockpit cover. Not only on the sides to the front of the cockpit but also to the rear where there was a big gap between the part and the fuselage. On the other, the bottom seam was slightly concave at places (the sides of the fuses must have been bevelled somehow). Still the most difficult thing was to blend in the front "shperical" panel. This was really a poor fit on my 2 examples. But I just finished sanding one and rescribbing some detail and adding some more panel detail and it does look lovely. Tomorrow I'll probably dedicate the evening session to the other one, while the paint on the Nieuport dries. > > I'll probably finish it *next* time I have a few days almost alone at work > and need a project that fits in a chinese takeaway container ;-) Ok, I won't tell your Boss, if you promise to show us pictures! Um abraço Pedro > Shane > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 09:46:15 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Oefag Alb. DIII Roden was Re: Re: Longest awaited release? Message-ID: Mike says: >Too right! Blood, sweat and tears . . . and some "expletives deleted". Oh man......stop it, you're turning me on! >If it wasn't for that precarious feeling that I'm on the verge of a big >screwup, it wouldn't be any fun at all. LOL Hell, I'm continually in the *midst* of a big screwup. In my case modelling is the art of recovery from disaster. > Then too, there's a lot more personal satifaction when you finish it . . >. something I haven't experienced much. ;-( I hear that, I really hear that. Shane _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 15:06:24 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org, "Shane Weier" Subject: Re: Roden SE-5a et al. Message-ID: <200301061506.24244.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> I'm looking forward anxiously to both. In fact I just swapped my one and only Revell SE5a in anticipation of the new one. As to the Biff, well me being a 1/72 modeller I still have both 1/48th Biffs (for when I finally can't see in 1/72) and I can see at least 3 1/72 biffs in my near future if the model is up to past Roden standards. I wonder how easy it would be to build a F2A from an F2B, plus there's post war too. Sheesh, I am moving houses this week, I am so darn bored of the move and the fact that all my models and references are now packed. I'd even build a bf 1&9 I am so bored! ;) Ray On Monday 06 January 2003 14:32, Shane Weier wrote: > Pedro says: > >Pedro (Who is most anxiously looking forward to the SE5a) > > You might be surprised to know that I'm waiting almost as anxiously for the > Biff.... > > Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:47:23 -0600 From: sm5192@verizon.net To: Subject: Re: Mac Phonix D1 Message-ID: <20030106234723.NJUQ10203.pop017.verizon.net@[192.168.129.99]> It was either finished as the rest of the fuselage (i.e. brown on brown daub) or varnished plywood. My 1/48 Blue Max Phoenix I am doing with a varnished plywood fuselage undersurface. Alvie > > From: Norwich & Sidney Pennysaver > Date: 2003/01/06 Mon PM 02:31:17 CST > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Mac Phonix D1 > > Can anybody tell me what the underside of the fuselage of a Phonix D1 would > look like? Would it be brown-daubbed like the rest of the fuselage and tops > of the wings or was it something else? Help! > > Dan > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 08:47:21 +0900 From: "M.G. Sheftall" To: Subject: the longest wait Message-ID: <002b01c2b5dd$f7e9a6c0$354f07d3@yourmjz5hbs8mp> >> Dave wondered: - what is the longest time between announcement and > release of a subject for a company still in existence at the time of release? << Don't forget the forever wait for the Meikraft Caproni Bomber. I'm not sure how long it took but it was at least 3 years from the first full page ad to the actual kit in hand. Sorry to keep whipping this glue factory carcass, but I still say it's the Eduard Camel, with which we have been tantalizingly tormented since at LEAST Spring '99 or so. That's working on FOUR YEARS, folks! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:50:37 -0600 From: sm5192@verizon.net To: Subject: Re: Hi folks!!nice to meet ya! all...(:o) Message-ID: <20030106235037.NKHZ10203.pop017.verizon.net@[192.168.129.99]> Bienvenu, Fernando. Wow a Hispano Qebeqois who models World War one. I love this list. Its membership is truly eclectic. Welcome aboard and happy modeling. Alvie > > From: pfalzdvii@att.net > Date: 2003/01/06 Mon PM 02:21:04 CST > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Hi folks!!nice to meet ya! all...(:o) > > Welcome Fernando, PLEASE TURN OFF MIME, and go to plain text for the list, so > the rest of us can read you . Again Welcome to the List > Merrill > > C'est un message de format MIME en plusieurs parties. > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C2B597.97C5B180 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > Hello .All! > > > > my friend Dan Hayward has been telling me that i should get on list = > > .and join in on the fun!..so here iam ! > > =20 > > I have been trying to get on this list since last Saturday but had a = > > tough time getting through, > > > > Let me introduce my self a little=20 > > > > My mane is Fernando Torre .i am 41 and i am a modelholic.? > > > > regards=20 > > Fern > > > > Fernando Torre > > Sherrington, PQ > > Canada =20 > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C2B597.97C5B180 > > Content-Type: text/html; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C2B597.97C5B180-- > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 18:57:18 -0500 From: Kerry Lynn To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Color question Message-ID: <3E1A17DE.1010509@cisco.com> My apologies if this has been previously asked & answered: I am building a 1/72 Eduard Dr.I after being away from the hobby for many years. I would like to know an equivalent color for the light blue base under the olive streaks. The directions list Humbrol 1028 (which doesn't exist as far as I can tell) along with other mfg's, none of which seem to agree. Should it be Aeromaster 1028 (RLM 76)? Also, what does "OT" stand for? Thanks, -K- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 00:04:45 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Hi folks!!nice to meet ya! all...(:o) Message-ID: <024d01c2b5e0$647cd6c0$69fb16d5@netcabo.pt> Somehow Fernando's message didn't show up on my computer. Anyway, Bem-vindo from Portugal. Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 11:51 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Hi folks!!nice to meet ya! all...(:o) > Bienvenu, Fernando. Wow a Hispano Qebeqois who models World War one. I love this list. Its membership is truly eclectic. Welcome aboard and happy modeling. > > Alvie > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 10:03:31 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: the longest wait Message-ID: Bucky says: >Sorry to keep whipping this glue factory carcass, but I still say it's >the >Eduard Camel, with which we have been tantalizingly tormented since at >LEAST Spring '99 or so. That's working on FOUR YEARS, folks! Ah, this is exactly what I was getting at. I took the time to search thoroughly through the internet, googled rec.models.scale and searched our archive. As far as I can tell Eduard did NOT give a date for the release of the Camel until the Chicago show in late 99, and THEN it was Eduard USA (not the Czech head office) and ONLY an indication that it would *probably* be released about December 2000. Which is only two years overdue, a not entirely unreasonable time given the accuracy issues they've backed up to correct and the floods last year. Shane (Anxiously awaiting at least several of them) _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 10:07:49 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Color question Message-ID: Kerry, >My apologies if this has been previously asked & answered: >I am building a 1/72 Eduard Dr.I after being away from the hobby >for many years. Well welcome back then! >Should it be Aeromaster >1028 (RLM 76)? There's a fair amount of opinion that the colour is not unlike one of the WW2 RLM blues, so that's a likely start point >Also, what does "OT" stand for? ON Topic (pertaining to WW1) whereas "ot" os "off toopic" (NOT pertaining to WW1) Incidentally, although there is some debate about it, the balance of opinion is that only the three F.1 Triplanes and some of the earliest machines had blue fabris streaked Olive - the rest had blue undersides, and clear doped linen with streaks elsewhere. (unless I misunderstood what you wrote) Shane > >Thanks, -K- _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 00:13:33 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Color question Message-ID: <025d01c2b5e1$9ece8980$69fb16d5@netcabo.pt> Hi Kerry, First of all welcome from Portugal. You've come to the right place, just beware of Toads, Elks, Eagles and other flying creatures. As to the blue, when I did my DR1 I used Turquoise blue by Extracolour, but I've heard that Humbrol 65 suits the bill perfectly. HTH Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: Kerry Lynn To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 11:59 PM Subject: [WWI] Color question > My apologies if this has been previously asked & answered: > I am building a 1/72 Eduard Dr.I after being away from the hobby > for many years. I would like to know an equivalent color for the > light blue base under the olive streaks. The directions list > Humbrol 1028 (which doesn't exist as far as I can tell) along with > other mfg's, none of which seem to agree. Should it be Aeromaster > 1028 (RLM 76)? > > Also, what does "OT" stand for? > > Thanks, -K- > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:28:04 -0600 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Re: Hi folks!!nice to meet ya! all...(:o) Message-ID: <002e01c2b5e3$a568aee0$6173fea9@s0024008072> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Burke" To: Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [WWI] Re: Hi folks!!nice to meet ya! all...(:o) > Hey Fernando, > > Welcome to the monkey house! What brand of glue do you sniff? > > DB > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4895 **********************