WWI Digest 4893 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Help me I'm sick by mtngoat@flash.net 2) Off topic request by "Matt Bittner" 3) Re: Leading Edge Seams by dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com 4) Nieuport updates to site by SSH 5) Re: Nieuport updates to site by Tom Plesha 6) Pictures from a friend modeler by "Pedro Soares" 7) Re: Pictures from a friend modeler by Tom Plesha 8) New update by "Matt Bittner" 9) Re: Help me I'm sick (.004" Tinted Invisible...) by Sean Brian Kirby 10) Re: Nieuport updates to site by Sean Brian Kirby 11) Re: Pictures from a friend modeler by Sean Brian Kirby 12) Re: (.004" Tinted Invisible...) by "Shane Weier" 13) Re: (.004" Tinted Invisible...) by Sean Brian Kirby 14) Longest awaited release? by dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com 15) Re: (.004" Tinted Invisible...) by "Shane Weier" 16) Re: Longest awaited release? by "Shane Weier" 17) Re: (.004" Tinted Invisible...) by "Pedro Soares" 18) Re: (.004" Tinted Invisible...) by "Shane Weier" 19) Re: Pictures from a friend modeler by "Michael Kendix" 20) Re: Longest awaited release? by "Matt Bittner" 21) Re: Nieuport updates to site by "Matt Bittner" 22) Re: Pictures from a friend modeler by RadspadMike@netscape.net 23) Another FT-17 (kinda) review by "Matt Bittner" 24) FT-17 Site by "Matt Bittner" 25) DWC - ARGHH by "Bob Pearson" 26) Re: DWC - ARGHH by "David C. Fletcher" 27) Re: Pictures from a friend modeler by "Michael Kendix" 28) Yet another site update by ot811 29) Re: Longest awaited release? by "Mike Muth" 30) Re: Yet another site update by "Mike Muth" 31) Re: Help me I'm sick (.004" Tinted Invisible...) by Dennis Ugulano ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 10:00:49 -0700 From: mtngoat@flash.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Help me I'm sick Message-ID: <3E1864C1.5020601@flash.net> lol I shall recruit my two sons for the tri-motor effect. Perhaps my wife will provide the 4th Ilya motor. Shane Weier wrote: >Eric says: > > > >>>Yup. You're sick. The rest of us do sound effects and wave the model > >>>about as well..... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>I still have a problem for multi-motor planes to do the sound effect, I >>have only 2 sons, that means that we can only fly 3 motor planes. >>Trouble with the Ilya ;-) >> >> > > >LOL > >I have two daughters and one son. We can do an Ilya, but only one with two >different pairs of engines ! > >Shane > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 11:07:17 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Off topic request Message-ID: This is totally off topic, but I hope someone can step forward. We, at the VVS site (http://www.kithobbyist.com/VVS/index.php), are in need of volunteers to help us out. We've been helping out Airwaves do 1/48th Polikarpov I-16 correction and conversion sets, meant for the Hobbycraft/Academy kit. We have the following available now: Type 5, Type 10 and Type 29. Within the next month or so (maybe earlier) the Type 24 correction set will also be available. In addition, within the next month or so we'll have the Lisunov Li-2/PS-84 conversion set for the Monogram C-47/DC-3. If anyone is willing to help us out, we'll (Airwaves) will provide the correction/conversion sets; you'll need to provide the kits and the "promise" that you can build them in a month or two. Please contact me off list if interested. TIA! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 17:40:38 +0000 From: dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Leading Edge Seams Message-ID: <1041788438.3e186e161d935@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Pedro Soares : > > > > My question is....how do you get a nice clean demarkation between the > > underside and upperside colors along the leading edge of the wing? > Seems > > like I've always got one color or the other overlapping onto the > opposite. > > John, > > I paint with the airbrush and the masking tape get's it done, but if I > was > brush painting I would run the side of the brush against the LE of the > wing > at a slight angle. This is what I do - it works better IMHO if you use a chisel shaped brush and use the 'thin' edge. You can mask it with low tack adhesive tape as well ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:06:35 -0500 From: SSH To: wwi-list Subject: Nieuport updates to site Message-ID: <20030105190803.ZIZM4558.pop018.verizon.net@eros> Pedro sent in more photos of his Nieuport build - modifications made to the original kit. See http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Soares/Nieuport/index.html or news. regards Sanjeev ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 11:25:48 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Plesha To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nieuport updates to site Message-ID: <20030105192548.64239.qmail@web40307.mail.yahoo.com> Very nice. Later Tom --- SSH wrote: > Pedro sent in more photos of his Nieuport build - > modifications made > to the original kit. > See > http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Soares/Nieuport/index.html > or news. > regards > Sanjeev > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 20:56:16 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Pictures from a friend modeler Message-ID: <002c01c2b4fc$e4d4ba20$19fa16d5@netcabo.pt> Guys, Francisco Colaço is a friend and a member of the same modelling association I belong to. He is a great modeler (although he ususally uses the wrong scale). Check is OT work on: http://ama.online.pt/Galeria/Aereo/mil/aereomil.htm Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 13:07:18 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Plesha To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Pictures from a friend modeler Message-ID: <20030105210718.13808.qmail@web40303.mail.yahoo.com> Pedro- He does very nice work. Whats wrong with the scale? For us fumble fingered old guys he seems to build in our scale. chuckle chuckle Later Tom --- Pedro Soares wrote: > Guys, > > Francisco Colaço is a friend and a member of the > same modelling association > I belong to. > > He is a great modeler (although he ususally uses the > wrong scale). Check is > OT work on: > > http://ama.online.pt/Galeria/Aereo/mil/aereomil.htm > > Pedro > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 15:30:35 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Cc: "unikat-modell@onlinehome.de" Subject: New update Message-ID: Just added a bunch from Bernd Nuesser - four models, two Allied and two Austro-Hungarian. Awesome! Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Page Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:19:04 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Help me I'm sick (.004" Tinted Invisible...) Message-ID: <20030105221904.85287.qmail@web14804.mail.yahoo.com> --- Dennis Ugulano wrote: > "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." Hey, Dennis! Good to see you, here. Wanted to post a query about rigging to all, and I was reading your rigging methods, the other day, so I figure this is as good a time as any to ask. The invisible thread has been suggested byany. I am building udet's D.Va as a gift, and will move on from there to a couple Nieports and another Albatros - not to mention the 1:72 stuff that awaits my attention. Um... am I crazy, or does the .004" thread i got look fine for the smaller scale, but too fine for 1:48? Or can I use this to good effect on 1:48, at the very least for controls. Have tried to find 1lb. test, isn't 2lb. too big? The main question: to do this 1:48 Albatros properly, should I be looking for something other than the invisible thread? Or go on with it? Thanks in advance... Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:25:01 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nieuport updates to site Message-ID: <20030105222501.26933.qmail@web14803.mail.yahoo.com> --- SSH wrote: > Pedro sent in more photos of his Nieuport build - > modifications made > to the original kit. Lookin' good... she should be pretty, when finished. Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:27:31 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Pictures from a friend modeler Message-ID: <20030105222731.16415.qmail@web14807.mail.yahoo.com> --- Pedro Soares wrote: > Francisco Colaço is a friend and a member of the > same modelling association > I belong to. > > He is a great modeler (although he ususally uses the > wrong scale). Check is > OT work on: Wow, that little Aviatik is gorgeous - bravo! Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 08:30:29 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: (.004" Tinted Invisible...) Message-ID: Sean says: >The invisible thread has been suggested byany.(sic) I am >building udet's D.Va as a gift, and will move on from >there to a couple Nieports and another Albatros - not >to mention the 1:72 stuff that awaits my attention. >Um... am I crazy, or does the .004" thread i got look >fine for the smaller scale, but too fine for 1:48? Or >can I use this to good effect on 1:48, at the very >least for controls. Have tried to find 1lb. test, >isn't 2lb. too big? The main question: to do this 1:48 >Albatros properly, should I be looking for something >other than the invisible thread? Or go on with it? I'm fairly slapdash in my modelling, so use the same spool of thread for 1/72 AND 1/48 models. Doesn't bother me, others may be more focussed but I can't see the difference betweem 4thou and 6 thou anyway Shane _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:36:41 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: (.004" Tinted Invisible...) Message-ID: <20030105223641.29101.qmail@web14803.mail.yahoo.com> --- Shane Weier wrote: > I'm fairly slapdash in my modelling, so use the same > spool of thread for > 1/72 AND 1/48 models. > > > > Doesn't bother me, others may be more focussed but I > can't see the > difference betweem 4thou and 6 thou anyway Ai, yai, yai! Those typos were mine?!?!? Gad! Shane, thanks. Um... is .006" the accepted size for 1:48, and .004" for Matt-scale? Will give this a whirl - but if the recipient says something about it, I may turn red. :) Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 22:57:06 +0000 From: dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Longest awaited release? Message-ID: <1041807425.3e18b842025cd@netmail.pipex.net> The recent talk of the Eduard Camel and the New Releases section in the January SAMI got me thinking - what is the longest time between announcement and release of a subject for a company still in existence at the time of release? SAMI list as new from Aeroclub the FE8 and Short 184 in 1/72 - but John has been promising these since 1996 at least. (He has had the ot Skyraider AEW conversion listed since then as well, and it finally made it now, so maybe there is hope!!) We were also at one point given a vacform RE7 (1993 it first appeared in the catalogue) but more recently, it has disappeared again. Any advance? Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 09:29:23 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: (.004" Tinted Invisible...) Message-ID: Sean > > I'm fairly slapdash in my modelling, so use the same > > spool of thread for > > 1/72 AND 1/48 models. > > > > > > > > Doesn't bother me, others may be more focussed but I > > can't see the > > difference betweem 4thou and 6 thou anyway > > >Ai, yai, yai! Those typos were mine?!?!? Eh? What typos? You've lost me again! >Um... is .006" the accepted size for >1:48, and .004" for Matt-scale? Will give this a whirl >- but if the recipient says something about it, I may >turn red. :) Errr, no. Sorry. My point was that I have (somewhere) got a reel of 4 thou thread and one of 6 thou thread. Even with them side by side I can only just figure out which is which (this is partly because the thinner one is blacker) and when I use one type on one model and the other on a second I can't tell them apart at all. To *me* the difference is an entirely moot point Anyway - .004" scales to slightly under 1/3" on a 1/72 model or 1/5" on a 1/48 model, and .006" scales at about 2/5" and just under 1/3" respectively. Frankly, all four figures are near enough to believable for me. Shane _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 09:36:12 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Longest awaited release? Message-ID: 'ming says: >The recent talk of the Eduard Camel and the New Releases section in >the >January >SAMI got me thinking - what is the longest time between announcement >and >release of a subject for a company still in existence at the time of > >release? I have another question. When did Eduard first *actually* announce a release date? "I heard about it on rms" doesn't count, and "upcoming" in a box leaflet doesn't either since "upcoming" is still correct. >SAMI list as new from Aeroclub the FE8 and Short 184 in 1/72 - but >John >has >been promising these since 1996 at least. (He has had the ot Skyraider >AEW >conversion listed since then as well, and it finally made it now, so >maybe >there is hope!!) SAMI still believe in Fairies. If I could convince them to give me $1 for every complete bollocks they published I'd be retired by now. Or I'd own my own company producing models. And like Tamiya, I wouldn't tell anyone ANYTHING. ;-) Shane _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 23:43:52 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: (.004" Tinted Invisible...) Message-ID: <00e901c2b514$4ec1eae0$19fa16d5@netcabo.pt> Shane, > Errr, no. Sorry. My point was that I have (somewhere) got a reel of 4 thou > thread and one of 6 thou thread. Even with them side by side I can only just > figure out which is which (this is partly because the thinner one is > blacker) Can't you just read the label? Why do you always have to make appear so difficult..... :-) Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 09:42:25 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: (.004" Tinted Invisible...) Message-ID: Pedro says: >Can't you just read the label? Why do you always have to make appear >so >difficult..... :-) LABEL! There's a label !?! My goodness, what will they think of next! Shane _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 00:44:06 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Pictures from a friend modeler Message-ID: Aside from the models, whic are first rate, I really like the way he's presented them so that they look like they're in a field or something. I would like to be able to do that. Anyone have any ideas on how to replicate this effect? Michael >From: "Pedro Soares" > >Francisco Colaço is a friend and a member of the same modelling > >association I belong to. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 19:04:58 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Longest awaited release? Message-ID: On Sun, 5 Jan 2003 17:59:19 -0500 (EST), dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com wrote: > The recent talk of the Eduard Camel and the New Releases section in the January > SAMI got me thinking - what is the longest time between announcement and > release of a subject for a company still in existence at the time of release? No doubt that distinction goes to the Meikraft Gotha. Announced a lot of years ago (1994, I think) and we'll never see it, God rest John Meikrantz' soul. Heck, ask Bob Pearson. He actually paid for it. ;-) Matt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 19:09:50 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Nieuport updates to site Message-ID: On Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:09:16 -0500 (EST), SSH wrote: > Pedro sent in more photos of his Nieuport build - modifications made > to the original kit. Pedro, it looks great!!! Keep up the fantastic work. I believe the blurb on the site said you used stretched sprue for the upper ribs - is that correct? It also looks like you scored a couple of lines per rib on the bottom - also correct? I like your exhaust channel. Please explain how you did that, as I'm going to have to add it to the Choroszy kit . Awesome. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 20:34:42 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Pictures from a friend modeler Message-ID: <1C923E93.25C82081.3E0364A1@netscape.net> "Michael Kendix" wrote: >Aside from the models, whic are first rate, I really like the way he's >presented them so that they look like they're in a field or something. I >would like to be able to do that. Anyone have any ideas on how to replicate >this effect? > >Michael Michael, Try http://www.hyperscale.com, then click on References. Scrolling down there are about four articles on photographing your models. First one by Brett Green shows one way of achieving that background effect. HTH, Mike Kavanaugh __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 19:38:56 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Another FT-17 (kinda) review Message-ID: Here's a review of the FT-17 clone, the "Russian Renault": http://www.landships.freeservers.com/rpm_russkiye_reno.htm I really need to pick up a couple of these!!! Matt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 19:40:28 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: FT-17 Site Message-ID: Here's a site devoted to the FT-17: http://www.geocities.com/witekjl/ Matt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 18:08:44 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: DWC - ARGHH Message-ID: <104181895701@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com> After a slight hiatus on the DWC project due to the holidays, I started work on the turtledeck. I decided to use the table saw to get uniform 1/8 wide grooves and also stringers. As mentioned before the plans are scaled up from a small balsa model, and when they scaled them up the two sides don't quite conform, so it is necessary to mark off the grooves on one side and then flip the former over to do the other side. I cut the grooves in the six and 13th formers and stuck a few stringers in to see what it looks like. .. pretty cool. . so it was time to glue these two in place. .. once they were glued I went to stick all the formers in place. . at about this point I noticed I have one stringer without a corresponding groove on the 13th former .. somehow I missed cutting it out when I adjustedfor the error on the plans. Oh well, easy enough to fix ... tomorrow. For now I'll just let the other one set. Once I get the new 13th one glued in place, I'll put the remaining ones in pace and then mark down exactly where the stringers go by running a line between the other two. Once I pick up some half round mouldings I can get started on teh wings. .. and then the thing will start looking better. I hope to at least have the lower wing centre section added to the fuselage by the end of the month. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 18:35:33 -0800 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: DWC - ARGHH Message-ID: <3E18EB75.3080207@mars.ark.com> Bob Pearson wrote: >...I have one stringer without a corresponding groove on the 13th former .. I can hardly wait for the movie, "The 13th Worrier" Dave Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 02:54:48 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Pictures from a friend modeler Message-ID: >Try http://www.hyperscale.com, then click on References. Scrolling down >there are about four articles on photographing your models. First one by >Brett Green shows one way of achieving that background effect. > >HTH, >Mike Kavanaugh Mike: Thanks. The pictures on the site are missing but I think I get the idea. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:05:38 -0500 From: ot811 To: wwi-list Subject: Yet another site update Message-ID: <20030106030135.F1FA94643BE@mail.mailsnare.net> Mike Muth sent in 3 models, 2 Nieuports and an Alb D.III. See news, or http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Muth/Nieuport/index.html and http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Muth/Albatros/index.html regards Sanjeev ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:13:47 -0500 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Longest awaited release? Message-ID: <000401c2b531$a13623a0$fad8bacc@ptdprolog.net> Dave wondered: - what is the longest time between announcement and > release of a subject for a company still in existence at the time of release? I'm not sure, but when the Glencoe Albatros first came out, they announced an Albatros D-II and a DV, iirc. Also, they have announced for over 5 years the DH-4. They are still in existence, but have yet to come out with these. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:20:51 -0500 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Yet another site update Message-ID: <001601c2b532$9dda0ae0$fad8bacc@ptdprolog.net> Sanjeev Thanks for adding them so quickly! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: ot811 To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 10:08 PM Subject: [WWI] Yet another site update > > Mike Muth sent in 3 models, 2 Nieuports and an Alb D.III. > See news, or > http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Muth/Nieuport/index.html > and > http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Muth/Albatros/index.html > > regards > Sanjeev > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:24:17 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Help me I'm sick (.004" Tinted Invisible...) Message-ID: <200301052224_MC3-1-22E1-8D96@compuserve.com> Sean, >> he .004" thread i got look fine for the smaller scale, but too fine for 1:48? << I have used my thread on 1/48th kits and I like the results. One thing that can be done on 1/48th is the wires can be doubled where they have to be. I do not attempt double wire is 1/72nd. >> Have tried to find 1lb. test, isn't 2lb. too big? << No, because the wire I use is at least 2 lb. Last year I bought some one lb nylon leader material at a fishing supply shop. This brand was Trilene XL extra-limp small diameter. It was then that I found out my DURAS wire is at least 2 pounds. I now use the Trilene for control lines. I would go no more than 3 pounds for a 1/48th scale kit. I may have to build a 1/48th kit just to see how it works. (Did I really say that?) The new Voisin has raised my eyebrow. >> The main question: to do this 1:48 Albatros properly, should I be looking for something other than the invisible thread? Or go on with it? << The rule in this group is to go for it. I model by the TLR method. (That Looks Right) Where as since joining this group of crazy people like me AMS has infected me, I have for the most part resisted it's siren's call and have remained somewhat normal.:-) >> not to mention the 1:72 stuff that awaits my attention. << A man after my own heart. Keep up the good work. My first offering of 2003 is nearing the top wing stage. The struts are mounted and I will probably have the wing attached tonight. Then rigging and it will be done. A very easy kit. I've been working on it about 5 days. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 12/31/2002 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4893 **********************