WWI Digest 4878 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Nieuport Questions by Mike Fletcher 2) Re: Nieuport Questions by "Bob Pearson" 3) Re: Back at it by "Ray Boorman" 4) Re: SE5a Question by "Mike Muth" 5) Re: Nieuport Questions by "Ray Boorman" 6) Re: the art of the thing by Ken Schmitt 7) Re: Nieuport Questions by Dave Fleming 8) re Funny Stuff by Morg17ms@aol.com 9) Re: Forced perspective by "Thomas Solinski" 10) Dawn of Aces II Save your money by "Thomas Solinski" 11) Re: BE2e question/ was: OT dog question by Sean Brian Kirby 12) Re: BE2e question/ was: OT dog question by Sean Brian Kirby 13) Re: BE2e question/ was: OT dog question by Sean Brian Kirby 14) Re: site update by "Pedro Soares" 15) Re: BE2e question/ was: OT dog question by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 16) new year resolutions by "Pedro Soares" 17) Re: BE2e question/ was: OT dog question by Sean Brian Kirby 18) Re: Nieuport Questions by Sean Brian Kirby 19) Re: Get 'em young! by Sean Brian Kirby 20) Re: Back at it by "Matt Bittner" 21) Question To All! by Sean Brian Kirby 22) Re: Question To All! by "Shane Weier" 23) Re: Nieuport Questions by "Matt Bittner" 24) Re: funny stuff by Sean Brian Kirby 25) Re: Question To All! by Sean Brian Kirby 26) Re: Question To All! by "David C. Fletcher" 27) Re: BE2e question/ was: OT dog question by Sean Brian Kirby 28) Re: Question To All! by Sean Brian Kirby 29) Re: Get 'em young! by "David C. Fletcher" 30) Re: Back at it by Sean Brian Kirby ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:25:51 -0500 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nieuport Questions Message-ID: <3E10C7EF.166B2D81@rogers.com> Who needs an excuse? Are there any more aesthetically pleasing aircraft than the Nieuports? 1. The first batch the RFC received of N.17s wasn't capable of being fitted with the Vickers - if you look close you will notice that the fuel and oil caps would be covered by the gun. The later machines had these moved so that a Vickers could be fitted, and the 17bis was derived from the latter type. 2. A visible rib line runs nearly full chord however the leading edge fabric is very much flat. Even the rest is flat even by ww1 standards and no line for the ply is visible. 3. Matt? What was it? Until he answers I'll continue to bet on green and brown. Why would the Germans have changed from green and brown to green and purple to avoid confusion if those weren't the colours the French were using? It doesn't make sense for it to have been green on green - I think someone made that up simply to be argumentative. :) Either that, or the theory on why the Germans changed colours is wrong. Mike Fletcher Dave Fleming wrote: > > You can blame Michal Beran for these, he re-awakened my latent Nie obsession! > > 1) Anyone any idea WHY the RFC removed the Vickers/Interrupter gear from their > Nie 17s etc? Strange when the RNAS retained them on their 17bis'. > > 2)On those with the ply l/e (24, 27?) what was the visual effect of this - just > no riblets on the l/e or was the ply fillet visible under the fabric? > > 3) What's current thought on colours of early cammo'd aircraft (two > greens/green-brown?) ? IIRC, there was some info on these in the Dorme book > Matt enthused over earlier in the year. > > That'll do for now! > > Regards > > Dave Fleming ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 14:36:43 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nieuport Questions Message-ID: <104128787201@smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com> Pfalz Bob ---------- >From: Mike Fletcher > Who needs an excuse? Are there any more aesthetically pleasing aircraft > than the Nieuports? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 14:54:26 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Back at it Message-ID: <035DECEEB4FD30347B2F7D46537A02D9@Ray_B.prontomail.com> This explians why Matt likes to build Russian models. Erm so if he is sinning does that mean Matt will build in 1/48th or 1/32 next?? Just a thought on a boring day at work. Ray ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: "Diego Fernetti" Matt feels good: >I've been concentrating (when >I've been "given" modeling time) on this single-winger for so long, I >forgot how it feels to work on something real. Redemption by sinning. Not an original idea, since it was practiced by some religious fanatics in the Tsarist Russia. One of the more known practitioners of this wacky concept was Rasputin, so it's kind of OT after all. Are you planning to grow a beard, Matt? >This could bode well for those Nieuports I want to build. ;-) Make them Russian, then! ;-) D. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/? page=features/virus&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi- bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_eliminateviruses_3mf ---- End Original Message ---- ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 18:01:45 -0500 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: SE5a Question Message-ID: <014f01c2b057$6d901e40$8f47bacc@ptdprolog.net> Matt C6378 is listed in the SE5 File as having been made by Wolseley...no mention of which engine was used...I assume either Viper, Adder or Python. hth Mike Muth ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Perry To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 3:06 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: SE5a Question > > If a serial is know of an SE5a, is there someone that can tell what type > of > > engine was used in it? My question is for the one SE5a that was flown > > during the RCW - as shown on the Blue Rider decal sheet. I can't recall > > what the serial was, but it does exist. TIA! > > > C.6378 > I have no idea what motor. Need decals LMK > sp > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:00:55 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nieuport Questions Message-ID: <322AA30E6FEF1E9418A674246D7B6EB4@Ray_B.prontomail.com> Sopwiths and not only were they aesthetic, but the wings stayed on too!........ I'll go hide now Ray ---------- >From: Mike Fletcher > Who needs an excuse? Are there any more aesthetically pleasing aircraft > than the Nieuports? ---- End Original Message ---- ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:06:52 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Re: the art of the thing Message-ID: Mark says: > My personal favorite is John Singer Sergeant. Mine too, and Sargent is an *artist*. Some of the most beautiful paintings in the world have been done by John Singer Sargent. If he's wrong, I don't wanna be right. He may have made a living as an illustrator, but he's an artist. Charlie Russell is another that was a cowboy first and an artist, second. I count him first as an artist and think he does better work than Remington. With WW1, it doesn't matter so much where you put the damn wires as much as what the viewer thinks and feels when they look at the piece. At the very least, it ain't orthochromatic. That's Miles Ahead, in my mind. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 23:32:49 +0000 From: Dave Fleming To: Subject: Re: Nieuport Questions Message-ID: <1041291169.3e10d7a115a29@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Bob Pearson : > Pfalz > Bless you! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 18:34:42 EST From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: re Funny Stuff Message-ID: <193.1322c6e5.2b423212@aol.com> --part1_193.1322c6e5.2b423212_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not completely ot - many of my model starts, and most of my instruction sheets could also be recycled in a similar fashion. If you don't find this site amusing, ot or not, I feel sorry for you! http://www.origamiboulder.com Tom Morgan --part1_193.1322c6e5.2b423212_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not completely ot - many of my model starts, and most of my instruction sheets could also be recycled in a similar fashion.  If you don't find this site amusing, ot or not, I feel sorry for you!

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Tom Morgan --part1_193.1322c6e5.2b423212_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:51:16 -0600 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Forced perspective Message-ID: <018201c2b05e$57db4f00$9eb40c44@ok.cox.net> That FSM is December of '96, and it contains my one and only published article on how to model water the easy way. It also contains one of Dame Karen's models There is a big box here in an OKC hobby shop that has a peep hole in the center. You look over the shoulder of a Japanese pilot in a dive bombing run on Peal Harbor. The ships are 1/700 and smaller. The models are mounted on the verticle back wall of the box. The effect is so good that if you're a real pilot like me you get dizzy because you know you're standing straight up but the forced perspective is of diving almost straight down! In this case the point of view is very controlled. HTH To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 6:25 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Forced perspective > Steve! > >Have any of y'all out there done or read about using forced perspective in > >a > >diorama? > > I recall seeing a picture in a FSM Reader Gallery of a large scale Bf*** > that chopped the tail of a 1/72 B-** destroying itself in the process. The > results of the shadowbox were incredible, at least in the picture. > D. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 3 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=747 4&SU= > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_stopmorespa m_3mf > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:53:14 -0600 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: Dawn of Aces II Save your money Message-ID: <018801c2b05e$9e1cd7e0$9eb40c44@ok.cox.net> Found the subject game at the local comp usa for only $14 US. It's not worth it.. Graphics are verry poor. Only unique feature is you can fly a Zepp. Happy new years to all MR T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 16:38:55 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: BE2e question/ was: OT dog question Message-ID: <20021231003855.14949.qmail@web14810.mail.yahoo.com> --- Shane Weier wrote: > D posts: > > > > >Aerobatic pilot? Perhaps I missed something. :) > > > >http://www.pitpass.com/images/wallpapers/800x600/webberplane.jpg > > Roulettes..... > > Wish they still had jets. Or would buy some biplanes > :-) > > Shane Hey - I'm not D... I'm Sean! > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 3 months > FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= > > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_stopmorespam_3mf > ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 16:39:26 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: BE2e question/ was: OT dog question Message-ID: <20021231003926.55424.qmail@web14808.mail.yahoo.com> --- Shane Weier wrote: > > >Aerobatic pilot? Perhaps I missed something. :) But thanks for the clarification... :) ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 16:42:56 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: BE2e question/ was: OT dog question Message-ID: <20021231004256.26639.qmail@web14809.mail.yahoo.com> --- Diego Fernetti wrote: > >www.pitpass.com > > Nice website! I love the area with the wallpapers. > That one of the aerobatic > pilot looks fine. Who is that individual? > D. After Shane's kind clarification... looks to me like that's Australian phenom, Mark Webber. Drove for lowly Minardi, last year - where he stunned all by gaining two points, first race - and will take the wheel for lowly (but expensive) Jaguar, this. Good driver. But, mark my words - Alonso is the next F1 god. ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 00:58:57 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: site update Message-ID: <003f01c2b067$ce1e2f80$3efa16d5@netcabo.pt> Lance says: > It is, by and large, completely original and unaltered by > "restorations". This makes it, to my eyes, especially precious. > I had heard about this DVII many times but had never seen a picture of it. Many thanks for the great shots Lance. Is this the only real lozenge covered machine in existence today? As anyone compared the several issues of lozenge decals to the aircraft fabric? The tapes seem to be lozenge on top and solid on bottom. A definitive case for 2 colour tapes? HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL. Guess the Australian Contingent will be the first to pop the champagne, so guys, HAVE ONE FOR ME, I'LL CATCH UP LATER! Pedro > Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 12:01:37 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: BE2e question/ was: OT dog question Message-ID: <3E10EC71.7C9CCA77@tac.com.au> Sean Brian Kirby wrote: > > --- Diego Fernetti wrote: > > >www.pitpass.com > > > > Nice website! I love the area with the wallpapers. > > That one of the aerobatic > > pilot looks fine. Who is that individual? > > D. > > After Shane's kind clarification... looks to me like > that's Australian phenom, Mark Webber. Drove for lowly > Minardi, last year - where he stunned all by gaining > two points, first race - and will take the wheel for > lowly (but expensive) Jaguar, this. Good driver. But, > mark my words - Alonso is the next F1 god. Hi Sean, I don't care, so long as someone displaces the current "god" ;-( Anyway, give Webber a chance - he can only get better with a better car ;-) Shane the Younger Staaken, Gotha, HP ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:06:38 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: new year resolutions Message-ID: <007c01c2b068$e055c540$3efa16d5@netcabo.pt> At the risk of sounding repetitive over last year, and blatantely steriotyped: Peace on Earth Pedro Looking forward to the pleasure of another year in the company of you all. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:01:15 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: BE2e question/ was: OT dog question Message-ID: <20021231010115.36602.qmail@web14803.mail.yahoo.com> --- Diego Fernetti wrote:> > >By the way, if you go to > >the forum, that moderator named "Sean," you know > him. > > Sean Connery? ;-) > D. Me Mum actually named me after him. :) ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:06:09 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nieuport Questions Message-ID: <20021231010609.60116.qmail@web14808.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bob Pearson wrote: > Pfalz > > Bob > > ---------- > >From: Mike Fletcher > > > Who needs an excuse? Are there any more > aesthetically pleasing aircraft > > than the Nieuports? I actually posted something on this very subject on the F1 forum, the other day. It's at www.pitpass.com under "General," headed "Most Beautiful A/C." Y'all can come weigh in... :) (And I had Nie.17 first, Pfalz D.III second. Camel, of course, be third...) ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:07:09 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Get 'em young! Message-ID: <20021231010709.80578.qmail@web14806.mail.yahoo.com> --- "David C. Fletcher" wrote: > Hans Trauner wrote: > > > how this bird is pronounced correctly. New-port? > > > Ya! You have it correct, Hans. > Perhaps the French would disagree. Strange language, theirs... Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 19:07:32 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Back at it Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 16:33:23 -0500 (EST), Diego Fernetti wrote: > Redemption by sinning. Not an original idea, since it was practiced by some > religious fanatics in the Tsarist Russia. One of the more known > practitioners of this wacky concept was Rasputin, so it's kind of OT after > all. Are you planning to grow a beard, Matt? As a matter of fact, my wife asked me when I returned from work "You missed some spots shaving." ;-) > Make them Russian, then! ;-) Oooo...maybe that's what I'll do. Normally my anal tendencies is to make a certain type French, and then "whatever", but I have this awesome scheme in mind for an RCW Nie.24 that maybe I'll do that one alongside the Nie.17 instead of the Nie.17bis. Great idea, D!! ;-) Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:09:08 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Question To All! Message-ID: <20021231010908.70936.qmail@web14807.mail.yahoo.com> Did my post, "Wooden Decals," make it, or did I send it all wrong? Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 11:15:21 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Question To All! Message-ID: Sean, > Did my post, "Wooden Decals," make it, or did I >send it all wrong? It got here alright. But you also said..... >Don't care what anyone says, I think these >decals will look great. So I at least had nothing to add...... Shane _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_stopmorespam_3mf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 19:16:49 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Nieuport Questions Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:28:15 -0500 (EST), Mike Fletcher wrote: > 3. Matt? What was it? Until he answers I'll continue to bet on green > and brown. Why would the Germans have changed from green and brown to > green and purple to avoid confusion if those weren't the colours the > French were using? It doesn't make sense for it to have been green on > green - I think someone made that up simply to be argumentative. :) > Either that, or the theory on why the Germans changed colours is wrong. Brown and green. Let me pull out the Chassard book (have I mentioned lately how much I *love* this book? ;-)). Turn to the page with the colored Nie.16 photo. "This view reveals the exact shadeof the amous brown/green camouflage, which was the rule in spring 1916." Funny that when I worked on my Nie.16 many, many moons ago (difficult to tell, since it's pieces parts ) I painted it green and a really brown olive. What, me worry? ;-) Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:21:33 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: funny stuff Message-ID: <20021231012133.62202.qmail@web14808.mail.yahoo.com> --- MARK MILLER wrote: > Speaking of "art" > Check this out > I thought it was hilarious: > > http://www.origamiboulder.com I nearly peed my pants! Of course, I had to go... Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:23:56 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Question To All! Message-ID: <20021231012356.22258.qmail@web14810.mail.yahoo.com> --- Shane Weier wrote: > It got here alright. But you also said..... > > >Don't care what anyone says, I think these > >decals will look great. > > So I at least had nothing to add...... > Shane, Shane, Shane... the only reason I said that is 'cause Ira told me he doesn't like decal wood. But he also said he'd never seen this particular product. But yeah, I guess if I ask an opinion, that's the wrong thing to write. ;) Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:27:09 -0800 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Question To All! Message-ID: <3E10F26D.4030901@mars.ark.com> Sean Brian Kirby wrote: > Did my post, "Wooden Decals," make it, or did I > send it all wrong? It made it. Dave Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:27:29 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: BE2e question/ was: OT dog question Message-ID: <20021231012729.85209.qmail@web14806.mail.yahoo.com> --- Shane & Lorna Jenkins wrote: > Hi Sean, > > I don't care, so long as someone displaces the > current "god" ;-( > > Anyway, give Webber a chance - he can only get > better with a better car > ;-) Hey, Schumey's The Man! ;) :D And, have I not given Mark a chance? He seems pretty good. I personally think the other Marc - Gené - deserves his chance. Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:28:11 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Question To All! Message-ID: <20021231012811.74424.qmail@web14807.mail.yahoo.com> --- "David C. Fletcher" wrote: > > It made it. > > Dave Fletcher > Cool. So that means I know what I'm doing, somewhat. Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:30:36 -0800 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Get 'em young! Message-ID: <3E10F33C.2090803@mars.ark.com> Sean Brian Kirby wrote: > --- "David C. Fletcher" wrote: >>Ya! You have it correct, Hans. > > Perhaps the French would disagree. Strange language, > theirs... Vell, eef you are going to split ze 'airs, ze French vould keep ze 't' silent, so eet vould be "New-por". Are we now 'appy? David Flecheur ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:29:51 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Brian Kirby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Back at it Message-ID: <20021231012951.57159.qmail@web14801.mail.yahoo.com> --- Matt Bittner wrote: > Oooo...maybe that's what I'll do. Normally my anal > tendencies is > to make a certain type French, and then "whatever", > but I have > this awesome scheme in mind for an RCW Nie.24 that > maybe I'll do > that one alongside the Nie.17 instead of the > Nie.17bis. Great > idea, D!! ;-) I have that cool Blue Rider Italian sheet... :p Can't build 'em all. :) Sean ===== www.pitpass.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4878 **********************