WWI Digest 4870 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) APMA site update by Shane Jenkins - APMA Webmaster 2) Re: Modelling wishes for the New Year by "Diego Fernetti" 3) Re: New on Modeling Madness by "Diego Fernetti" 4) Re: What did you get for Christmas ? by MARK MILLER 5) Re: Holiday gifts by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 6) Re: Modelling wishes for the New Year by Dave Fleming 7) Great CG site (ot) by MARK MILLER 8) Re: Modelling wishes for the New Year by "Diego Fernetti" 9) Re: Holiday gifts by "Matt Bittner" 10) Re: Modelling wishes for the New Year by "Matt Bittner" 11) Choroszy Nie.17 and Nie.17bis by "Matt Bittner" 12) Re: What did you get for Christmas ? by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 13) Schneider & Tabloid by =?iso-8859-2?Q?V=E1clav_Hochmuth?= 14) JaPo book, was What did you get for Christmas ? by "Marek Mincbergr" 15) Re: APMA site update by "Shane Weier" 16) Re: New on Modeling Madness by "Shane Weier" 17) =?big5?Q?=A4=A4=B0=EA=A4j=B3=B0=BE=F7=B2=BC=A1y=A4T=B3q=A1z=A4F=A1I=A1I=A1H=A1H?= by yuehshanjiachi@sina.com 18) 教您如何成為網路工程師 by mlpi_uy_rff3d1w@amazon.com 19) 1/28 Fokker D.VII by "M.G. Sheftall" 20) Re: JaPo book by Morg17ms@aol.com 21) Re: 1/28 Fokker D.VII by Morg17ms@aol.com 22) re: 1/28 Fokker D.VII by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 23) Re: 1/28 Fokker D.VII by pfalzdvii@att.net 24) Re: JaPo book by pfalzdvii@att.net 25) Re: WWI Alliance Models by CAUhlir@aol.com 26) Electric Dr-I and SPAD by "Thomas Solinski" 27) Re: WWI Alliance Models by Tom Plesha 28) Re: art of WW1 by Karen Rychlewski 29) Back home again by Karen Rychlewski 30) Re: art of WW1 by Volker Haeusler 31) Freedom by xiaoz 32) Funny Terms in Janes Fighting Aircraft of wwi by Ray 33) RE: 1/28 Fokker D.VII by "John Glaser" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 03:58:33 +1100 From: Shane Jenkins - APMA Webmaster To: WW1 posts Subject: APMA site update Message-ID: <3E0B3539.1070603@apma.org.au> Hi all, The APMA site has just been updated with plenty of new photos of Member' models. OT reference include Mk.IX tank, Bristol M.1C Bullet & Bristol Boxkite (ok so it's sorta OT ;-) ). We also now have secure on-line ordering if you wish to join/ re-join APMA or buy backissues of the APMA Magazine. All the best, Shane Jenkins APMA Webmaster Having FUN making models http://apma.org.au Now with Secure Online Ordering ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 16:54:26 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Modelling wishes for the New Year Message-ID: Matt! > I tend to say the same thing year after year. We all follow the same pattern, indeed. >Two Chroroszy Nieuports (Nie.17 and Nie.17bis, once I figure out >a scheme for the bis) Nungesser, of course!!!!!!!!!!11 >What I would like to start this year: > >Choroszy Salmson 2A.2 (still deciding on a scheme, although I'm >99.9% convinced of doing the Sal 1 scheme) What happened with that Pegasus of yours? >However, I have a suspicion: The best laid plans of mice and >men.... Bwahaha mon ami, bwahaha all the way. D. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_smartspamprotection_3mf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 16:59:04 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New on Modeling Madness Message-ID: This is quite good indeed. The wood finish and the weathering of the CDL looks great. BTW, what's the wrong scale there? It's the right sized model! ;-) D. >From: "Harris, Mack" >This looks nice, even if the wrong scale: >http://m2reviews.cnsi.net/reviews/w1/bodilyphonixd1.htm >Mack _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_advancedjmf_3mf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 09:48:43 -0800 (PST) From: MARK MILLER To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: What did you get for Christmas ? Message-ID: <20021226174843.5383.qmail@web80006.mail.yahoo.com> My big present this year was a bonsai tree. That's sort of like a scale model of a real tree ;-) Don't know if my thumb is green enough to keep this pretty little thing alive. My jade trees do very well, but i think that's just because they thrive on neglect ;-) mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 18:30:05 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Holiday gifts Message-ID: <1040927405.3e0b4aadd7650@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Matt Bittner : > Plus I bought myself a half-proper scale extremely off topic, > modern subject. ;-) > Russian? Type number close to the scale ? I wonder....:-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 18:31:34 +0000 From: Dave Fleming To: Subject: Re: Modelling wishes for the New Year Message-ID: <1040927494.3e0b4b0628cdc@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Diego Fernetti : > > >Two Chroroszy Nieuports (Nie.17 and Nie.17bis, once I figure out > >a scheme for the bis) > > Nungesser, of course!!!!!!!!!!11 > Or RNAS in PC10 over CDL! :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 10:34:07 -0800 (PST) From: MARK MILLER To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Great CG site (ot) Message-ID: <20021226183407.29770.qmail@web80005.mail.yahoo.com> I just saw this site, and i'm VERY impressed. unfortunately, all ot subjects, but this guy is doing some amazing work. http://www.geocities.co.jp/MotorCity-Race/3895/ You paint & brush guys better look out ;-) Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 19:48:44 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Modelling wishes for the New Year Message-ID: Dave of the flying kilt advised to paint a 17bis as >RNAS hmmm.... >in PC10 over CDL! :-) Yeech! At least I-m sure that Matt won-t hear such nonsense... 17 bises must be silver... same as Haker Furys! D. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_eliminateviruses_3mf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 14:53:16 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Holiday gifts Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Dec 2002 13:32:03 -0500 (EST), xtv16@dial.pipex.com wrote: > > Plus I bought myself a half-proper scale extremely off topic, > > modern subject. ;-) > > > Russian? Type number close to the scale ? > > I wonder....:-) I'll never tell. Until I put it up for review, of course . Matt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 14:53:40 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Modelling wishes for the New Year Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Dec 2002 13:34:11 -0500 (EST), Dave Fleming wrote: > > Nungesser, of course!!!!!!!!!!11 > > > Or RNAS in PC10 over CDL! :-) :-{]~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 15:36:28 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Choroszy Nie.17 and Nie.17bis Message-ID: Looks like - after pouring over references - I'll have to finish the Nie.17bis as Nungesser's. Not only French, but the Russians didn't fly them either. But the British did. Makes you wonder... ;-) BTW and FWIW, both Choroszy kits showed up today - the Nie.17 and Nie.17bis. Awesome, but you can tell shortcuts were made with the Nie.17. The fuselage is a Revell copy, so corrections will have to be made. Still, the wings appear spot on (odd for me to say that model Nieuport wings are accurate ;-)) as do the rest of the pieces. Watch for an in the box from IM soon (hopefully Chris can hold me some places on the upcoming issue) and full builds of both to follow. The Nie.17 will take longer since not only are there corrections, but the interior detail is a tad sparse as well. FWIW, the Nie.17bis will be (like mentioned) finished as Nungesser's, while the Nie.17 will have the markings of Lt. Maurice Boyau of Esc. 77, decals for which have been already made. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:03:44 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: What did you get for Christmas ? Message-ID: <000b01c2ad33$0db4b840$f5482dcb@future> Well done Mike. I wish you both much happiness in the years to come. Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Mike Muth Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2002 3:21 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: What did you get for Christmas ? I got engaged. (The triumph of hope over experience) SWMBO got a few off topic models...she likes Sci-Fi stuff. With my Secret Santa stuff, I'm in good shape for models for awhile. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 00:24:26 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?V=E1clav_Hochmuth?= To: Subject: Schneider & Tabloid Message-ID: <000001c2ad36$31f25700$2371a8c3@hochmuth> Hi, under the tree I found new Special Hobby kits-SPAD VII (US & RFC) and Sopwiths Schneider and Tabloid. Now, they are all on my workbench. I have to build them quickly, because I am writing a review for an modelling magazine. The kits are very nice (especially the SPAd, excluding the mistakes) but I am vondering about the Tabloid/Schneider interior. Does anybody have a photo of the interior of the Tabloid and the Schneider ? (Tabloid will be No.1214, ex-Gordon Benett racer and Schneider will be a late type A-394 used by US Navy). The interior offered by Special Hobby is the same for both kits, but I think there was an evolution of this part of the plane during the years... Vaso P.S.Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everybody. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 00:57:23 +0100 From: "Marek Mincbergr" To: Subject: JaPo book, was What did you get for Christmas ? Message-ID: <009b01c2ad3a$b3d6c360$a483ebd5@ca004834> > Write more about that Aviatik book!!! > Cheers! > G. Hmm, what to write? It looks good. I have already changed some emails wit one of the authors, Mr. P.A.Tesar (Mr. Zahalka is the second) concerning colours and markings (see bellow). Generaly, it is similar to the Albatros Oeffag book. It means english and czech languages, clear photos, drawings of Aviatik ser 38, 138 and 39 (D.II). There is description of development, serial production (including licence-built planes), operational use, colours, personal and unit markings, technical description. Some detail pictures of the plane from museum in Wien are there too. Colour plates are included too, for airplanes from all producers, but there are some but. Becouse the planned author lost his wife, another was chosen. But Mr Tesar told me, that he has had no possibility to check pictures before printing, so there are some problems with colour reresentation and density of spotches. If you want, I can resend those fails off-lis or on-list. For the Fllik 60J fans, the band is red without any written questions. :-) I am in discus with Mr Tesar about colours of 38.02. He presented it without "autumn leafs" spotches on wing, so they are clear doped. I can inform about results later, after finish. Generally, it is good book for the price (400 CZK so around 13USD). BR Marek G ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:20:36 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: APMA site update Message-ID: StY shows his shippish origins: > The APMA site has just been updated with plenty of new photos of >Member' models. OT reference include Mk.IX tank, Bristol M.1C Bullet & >Bristol Boxkite (ok so it's sorta OT ;-) ). What's *sorta* about the Boxkite? Used as a trainer through the early years of the war in both England AND Australia Shane _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 limited-time offer: Join now and get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_newmsn8ishere_3mf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:27:26 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New on Modeling Madness Message-ID: Diego says (of the lovely little Phonix) >This is quite good indeed. The wood finish and the weathering of the >CDL >looks great. Agreed. The only thing I'd question a bit is the sheer amount of oil staining on the wing roots top and bottom. The author/builder seems to assume that inline engines spewed vast amounts of oil - something worse than that spewed by rotaries - yet as far as I can tell from photos they *didn't*, and most of the oil staining would be due to spills during servicing, catastrophic engine failure OR would tend to show up under the fuselage where oilseal leaks allowed oil to accumulate in the bottom of the engine bay and seep out. However, it doesn't detract. The models an excellent build of a very decent kit. >BTW, what's the wrong scale there? It's the right sized model! ;-) > Only to the small minded. Shane _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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Sheftall" To: Subject: 1/28 Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <015f01c2ad4d$591e7310$374f07d3@yourmjz5hbs8mp> First of all, Happy Holidays, everyone. One of my own Xmas bennies was a 1/28 Revell Fokker D.VII from a Japanese modeler friend who wouldn't touch something fabric-winged with a twenty-nine-and-half-foot pole. Anyone have the lowdown on this kit? Is it worth the trouble of building? Since there is no aftermarket lozenge out there for this baby, it would mean happy hours and $$$ in front of the computer whipping something up for the ALPS to print out. Just fingering the sprues my modeler instincts tell me the kit seems a little...well...svelte, but I'm not sure. And it might be a fun project to do something OT in this Godzilla scale. Bucky ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 21:12:22 EST From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: JaPo book Message-ID: <181.1435869d.2b3d1106@aol.com> --part1_181.1435869d.2b3d1106_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone know where tjo get the JaPo books? Tom Morgan --part1_181.1435869d.2b3d1106_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone know where tjo get the JaPo books?

Tom Morgan --part1_181.1435869d.2b3d1106_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 21:22:15 EST From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: 1/28 Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <29.347ca234.2b3d1357@aol.com> --part1_29.347ca234.2b3d1357_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Apparently it requires MAJOR SURGERY to approach accuracy - I think there have been a few articles over the years on how to fix it - I remember one in FSM ... maybe? Tom Morgan --part1_29.347ca234.2b3d1357_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Apparently it requires MAJOR SURGERY to approach accuracy - I think there have been a few articles over the years on how to fix it - I remember one in FSM ... maybe?

Tom Morgan --part1_29.347ca234.2b3d1357_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 03:25:06 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: 1/28 Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <001d01c2ad4f$2bf826e0$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Bucky! > Since there is no aftermarket lozenge out there for this baby, it would mean > happy hours and $$$ in front of the computer whipping something up for the > ALPS to print out. Don't be so desperate! There are lots of not-lozenged D.VIIs, aren't they? Cheers! G. ***************r-e-k-l-a-m-a************** Masz dosc placenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - zaloz konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 02:27:19 +0000 From: pfalzdvii@att.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: 1/28 Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <20021227022720.MGYY9286.mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net@mtiwebc20> Bucky, the kit is supposed to be a turkey, not a Fokker, but if anyone could make a decent model of it, you could, good luck. IIRC, Eric at Copper State Models makes 1/28 loz, and some PE goodies you may find useful. Technical advice on correcting the wings and fuselage, will have to come from others, I was MIA during discussions of the beast. Happy New Year! Merrill > First of all, Happy Holidays, everyone. > > One of my own Xmas bennies was a 1/28 Revell Fokker D.VII from a Japanese > modeler friend who wouldn't touch something fabric-winged with a > twenty-nine-and-half-foot pole. > > Anyone have the lowdown on this kit? Is it worth the trouble of building? > Since there is no aftermarket lozenge out there for this baby, it would mean > happy hours and $$$ in front of the computer whipping something up for the > ALPS to print out. > > Just fingering the sprues my modeler instincts tell me the kit seems a > little...well...svelte, but I'm not sure. And it might be a fun project to > do something OT in this Godzilla scale. > > Bucky > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 02:28:45 +0000 From: pfalzdvii@att.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: JaPo book Message-ID: <20021227022846.DJVX20003.mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net@mtiwebc20> John Roll at rollmodels.com has them, for one. HTH Merrill > > --part1_181.1435869d.2b3d1106_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Anyone know where tjo get the JaPo books? > > Tom Morgan > > --part1_181.1435869d.2b3d1106_boundary > Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > LANG="0">Anyone know where tjo get the JaPo books?
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> Tom Morgan > > --part1_181.1435869d.2b3d1106_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 21:37:36 EST From: CAUhlir@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WWI Alliance Models Message-ID: <120.1b7dd0ad.2b3d16f0@aol.com> --part1_120.1b7dd0ad.2b3d16f0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom, I just happened to finsh up the ALliance 1/48 WKF. Not a bad kit. All resin...almost a "slammer" until you get to mount the lower wing. Quality is good.....I have one more of their's to finish up later on,,,but based on the one I just finished I like them. Candice --part1_120.1b7dd0ad.2b3d16f0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom,
  I just happened to finsh up the ALliance 1/48 WKF. Not a bad kit.  All resin...almost a "slammer" until you get to mount the lower wing.  Quality is good.....I have one more of their's to finish up later on,,,but based on the one I just finished I like them.

Candice --part1_120.1b7dd0ad.2b3d16f0_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 20:49:08 -0600 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: Electric Dr-I and SPAD Message-ID: <006801c2ad52$878d40a0$9eb40c44@ok.cox.net> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2563&item=3101612602 Follow the link to a guy who is clearing out a hobby shop's stock... This is the DR-I on my models page. Nice kit but very dificult to fly HTH MrT ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 20:17:53 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Plesha To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WWI Alliance Models Message-ID: <20021227041753.70776.qmail@web40311.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Candice- Thanks for the info. I'm going to order both the kits. Are you doing the Aviatik? Any photo's? .. Later Tom --- CAUhlir@aol.com wrote: > Tom, > I just happened to finsh up the ALliance 1/48 WKF. > Not a bad kit. All > resin...almost a "slammer" until you get to mount > the lower wing. Quality is > good.....I have one more of their's to finish up > later on,,,but based on the > one I just finished I like them. > > Candice __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 23:39:39 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: art of WW1 Message-ID: <3E0BD98C.7D4F0283@earthlink.net> MARK MILLER wrote: > > Just stumbled over this > and i Don't remember ever seeing it before > > http://www.art-ww1.com/gb/peintre.html > > Great stuff Great stuff indeed! Thanks for the pointer, Mark. Some big name boys in there, including the father of Peter Grosz. How did we all miss this?? Karen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 00:15:00 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: aa-to post Subject: Back home again Message-ID: <3E0BE1D5.C7B60EA4@earthlink.net> Well, once again, I screwed up trying to unsub and came home to over 400 messages--would have thought all you folks had better things to do on Christmas Eve and Day... Many thanks to all who expressed their condolences--very much appreciated. Mother and I managed to get round-trip flights at a reasonable price and times; and since she lives in Chicago, we just bunked at her apartment for three nights. We returned on Christmas Day and luckily just bumped the edge of the great eastern snowstorm. Having missed the big day, we decided to celebrate a belated Christmas: decorated the tree with my collection of airplane ornaments Thursday and will have Christmas Eve Friday evening (when I can *finally* open my Secret Santa present :-) Believe it or not, I have finally finished my "weekend build" from last June; photos of that durned Polish Hannover will arrive in the list mailbox soon. And another long-time-in-progress build of an Austrian Fokker B.I(M.10) is in its last stages. Anyhoo, is nice to be back amongst friends--especially ones who seem to have been very, very good and thus received a wonderful haul of OT stuff to keep them out of trouble for the coming year. Dame Karen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:28:20 -0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: art of WW1 Message-ID: <006201c2adf7$4350a080$146e160a@CCO03> Really a superb site - has anybody already discovered whether this belonged to a *real* exhibition or not? WHile maybe from the message and the artistic point of view one of the last interesting pictures, have a special look at: http://www.art-ww1.com/trame/057text.html That is a picture that has been published a number of times (but AFAIK always in Black and White only), eg in the O'Connor Air Aces of the AH Empire book. It is the source for the markings of Arigi (5X), Kiss (7) and Maier (not sure about the name, from memory only, but he was the Flik commander) that have been around ever since interpreted from that paining by O'Connor. I think these aircraft are also included in hte latest Roden D III 153 early series. Highly interesting to see that opicture in coolor (I think the original title is "Kaiserstaffel" or something like that BTW) Volker > Just stumbled over this > and i Don't remember ever seeing it before > > http://www.art-ww1.com/gb/peintre.html > > Great stuff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 15:20:41 +0900 From: xiaoz To: Subject: Freedom Message-ID: <200212270620.BAA86618@mustang.sr.unh.edu>

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------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 22:03:21 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Funny Terms in Janes Fighting Aircraft of wwi Message-ID: <200212262203.21975.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> I have been reading the Jane's book I got for Christmas. It would seem this is a republishing of James all the worlds aircraft published in 1919. This book has some funny terms such as a caption for a N17 picture reading as "Nieuport 17 Destroyer" Or an "Albatros DIII Chaser" - I think this is a translation from the French word for this class of aircraft "Biplan De Chasse"?? A Fokker DVIII has a description that wonders if the wing was developed by Junkers and was metal. Lots of drawings of details. all in all a great book though the preface is amusing. The preface to the book was written in 1919 by CG Grey and relates how German aircraft look the part but have bad construction, British aircraft of the later war years as looking more and more hunnish. Oh and of course British Aircraft were more aeronautically advanced than the Germans. Heres one Matt will like; "As regards the French section, it has been extremely difficult to obtain information from the French firms, chiefly one believes because there has been so little new in French design in the last two years....." Sheesh and someone thought Biggles was arrogant. OT models and a book for Christmas - tis a great Christmas Ray ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 01:09:23 -0600 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: 1/28 Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <002201c2ad76$e2e99420$0500a8c0@SalesLogixGuru.com> Keywords: WW1 List Bucky: FSM January 1999 has the article on corrections. Basically, top wing needs reshaping & fuse needs reduction. Let me know if you need the article and I'll copy & forward to you. Copper State Eric makes a bunch of PE goodies & decals. - JCG -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of M.G. Sheftall Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 8:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] 1/28 Fokker D.VII First of all, Happy Holidays, everyone. One of my own Xmas bennies was a 1/28 Revell Fokker D.VII from a Japanese modeler friend who wouldn't touch something fabric-winged with a twenty-nine-and-half-foot pole. Anyone have the lowdown on this kit? Is it worth the trouble of building? Since there is no aftermarket lozenge out there for this baby, it would mean happy hours and $$$ in front of the computer whipping something up for the ALPS to print out. Just fingering the sprues my modeler instincts tell me the kit seems a little...well...svelte, but I'm not sure. And it might be a fun project to do something OT in this Godzilla scale. Bucky ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4870 **********************