WWI Digest 4866 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Previous cookups by Dave Fleming 2) RE: New Cook-up subject by Dave Fleming 3) Re: New Cook-up subject by Witold Kozakiewicz 4) Re: cookup by Ken Schmitt 5) RE: New Cook-up subject by "Diego Fernetti" 6) Christmas traditions by Witold Kozakiewicz 7) RE: Paper zeps, was 'Working' OT balloon models by Marc Flake 8) RE: Christmas traditions by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 9) Holiday Greetings by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 10) RE: New Cook-up subject by "Pedro Soares" 11) RE: New Cook-up subject by "Matt Bittner" 12) Brent's webcam by "Pedro Soares" 13) RE: New Cook-up subject by "Steven Perry" 14) Re: Michelin Bomb Racks by "Pedro Soares" 15) Re: Michelin Bomb Racks by "Matt Bittner" 16) Re: Michelin Bomb Racks by "Steven Perry" 17) re: Brent's webcam by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 18) Re: cookup by Ray 19) Merry Christmas to all of you!!! by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 20) Merry Christmas by Ray 21) Re: Merry Christmas to all of you!!! by "Rick Milas" 22) turning the heat down on the cookup by "Bob Pearson" 23) Holiday Wishes by Peter Mullin 24) Odp: Merry Christmas by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 25) Merry Christmas & Unsubbing by "NEIL EDDY" 26) Re: WWI digest 4863 by "Diego Fernetti" 27) RE: New Cook-up subject by "Diego Fernetti" 28) RE: Christmas traditions by "Thomas Solinski" 29) Antiques Roadshow by "Harris, Mack" 30) Re: Antiques Roadshow by "Matt Bittner" 31) Re: Antiques Roadshow by "Bob Pearson" 32) Strutter pondering by "Matt Bittner" 33) DWC - Liberty engine by "Bob Pearson" 34) Re: Merry Christmas to all of you!!! by "Mike Muth" 35) another n17 question by MARK MILLER 36) Re: Strutter pondering by "Bob Pearson" 37) DWC - another query by "Bob Pearson" 38) =?gb2312?q?=C4=E3=CF=EB=D4=DA=CD=F8=C9=CF=D7=F6=B9=E3=B8=E6=C2=F0=A3=BFdo_you_have_products_to_sell_in_net=A3=BF?= by hello ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 11:25:30 +0000 From: Dave Fleming To: Subject: Re: Previous cookups Message-ID: <1040729130.3e08442a77847@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Kenneth Zelnick : > Greetings all, > > I seem to remember that I was going to build a Camel for the Sopwith > cookup, > but I traded it off, so I'll have to bow out of that. The Giants cookup > page still shows me in the early stages of construction of my DH-10A, > and it > has been finished for a long time. The page shows Dave Fleming to be in > charge. Dave, do I need to send you some more pics, or have I already > done > that? Yes please, I intend to resurrect this one in the New Year (NOte to self - must speak to Shane & Lorna again). Please send all 'Giants' contributions to me at this address. Regards Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 11:53:00 +0000 From: Dave Fleming To: Subject: RE: New Cook-up subject Message-ID: <1040730780.3e084a9c9949c@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Shane Weier : > As Dave pointed out, we already did. For mine, on reflection, given that > we > *did* decide on Fokker and also on alternating alliances I think we > should > be doing a Fokker cookup next and THEN Nieuport. > > Only - given your failure to complete a model in either the Albatros or > Sopwith cookups I doubt you'd be any better than I at getting one done > for > the Fok. Up > He could always do those DR1s :-) I like the Fok-Up. Reminds me of a joke, where the Judge asked about missing papers, the attorney said 'fax them up' and the judge replied "It does rather" Dave who reckons the whole cook-up idea will only ever work once ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 14:30:33 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New Cook-up subject Message-ID: <3E086179.4040006@bg.am.lodz.pl> Użytkownik xtv16@dial.pipex.com napisał: > Aherm, has everyone finished their Sopwiths? I know I haven't even got beyond > early work. > I have :D Strutter was quite quick build, but Dolphin was a veeerryyy looooonnggg project. Snipe still in box. untouched -- Witek Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 07:45:07 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Re: cookup Message-ID: Mr. Muth states: > Ah yes, as he once said "What is modeling other than simple assault with > unfortunate consequences?" And this is an eloquent description for the proposed cook-up. If we go Fokker for cook-up, bout guarantees dink scale as there aren't many Fokker kits *readily* available for the blind. Fokker is not a prob for some of us in 48+ but for others, it may be exclusionary by virtue of scale and availability. Contrary to some aficionados, there really are a wealth of Noops & Spads out there, even if they are ....off. Fokkers only come in 72 these days. You know, that other fokkin scale. . . Ken obligatory CT content: If using gloss or acrylic paints, lick your Toad *after* you've lightly sanded it. Otherwise, it can hop away. np: Wheels Of Fire, side 4, track 2 next up: Hoyt Axton: 'Mama Toad Me Not To Come' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 13:39:48 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: New Cook-up subject Message-ID: Matt yells: >Prove it! I call this "Exhibit A" your Honor: http://www.wwi-models.org/misc/FrenchWW1/Nieuport/nie1772.html I rest my case. D. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_stopmorespam_3mf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 14:51:47 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi Subject: Christmas traditions Message-ID: <3E086673.7010900@bg.am.lodz.pl> It's Chritmas Eve... the most important evening in Polish Christmas tradition. All family will meet around a tree. We share a bread each other wishing all the best for next year... Wesolych, pogodnych i spokojnych swiat Bozego Narodzenia, zdrowia i pomyslnosci w nadchodzacym roku... -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 08:14:32 -0600 From: Marc Flake To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Paper zeps, was 'Working' OT balloon models Message-ID: <3E086BC8.5080607@airmail.net> I've built the Revell Hindenburg, AMT Macon and Glencoe Blimp. I have the Eastern Express R 100 on the "to-do" pile. AND, I'm still working on my paper zep, the L-48, in 1/400. Regarding the glue for paper models, I was recommended Aleen's Original Tacky Glue. I've been very pleased with the results and have even found uses (rigging) in my plastic modeling. Recently, we just discussed how it can be used to paint those bendy plastic soldiers we all grew up with. I've been doing the zep on family vacations -- don't have to open smelly jars of paint and the glue smells better, too. I'm almost finished with the envelope. Now I am getting worried about cutting and folding the gondolas correctly. I know I promised the list I'd have it finished by December 2001, but I just haven't been able to get much modeling time on vacation. But, hey, I've finished my Albatros and Sopwith and I've already submitted my Neiuport for the Cookup -- a serious build of the Glencoe 28. If we do Fokkers, I'd be tempted to submit my two Voss Triplanes as an illustration of our favorite controversy. Merry Christmas Marc Flake ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 15:59:36 +0100 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: RE: Christmas traditions Message-ID: > It's Chritmas Eve... the most important evening in Polish Christmas > tradition. > All family will meet around a tree. We share a bread each other wishing > all the best for next year... > Wesolych, pogodnych i spokojnych swiat Bozego Narodzenia, zdrowia i > pomyslnosci w nadchodzacym roku... Nic dodac nic ujac. I would like to wish you all Merry Christmass. Best wishes for you and your families. Let we spend the Christmas with the people we love. Tomasz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 10:04:53 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Holiday Greetings Message-ID: <001301c2ab5d$d0c588f0$8e3e5b0c@millipore.com> A very Merry Christmas & Holiday Season to all. May the new year be a good one and full of new releases in your favorite scale. Regards, Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 15:08:34 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: RE: New Cook-up subject Message-ID: <003301c2ab5e$55bb29c0$2afb16d5@netcabo.pt> > > > I vote Nieuport too. After all I'll finish my 17 untill the end of > January > > > (I hope....) > > > > > > Pedro > > He'll do anything to get Matt to finish his A.2, right Pedro ;-) > sp Absolutely Steve! But it seems to me that no matter how hard I try......;-) Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 09:04:29 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: New Cook-up subject Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 08:48:05 -0500 (EST), Diego Fernetti wrote: > I call this "Exhibit A" your Honor: > http://www.wwi-models.org/misc/FrenchWW1/Nieuport/nie1772.html > I rest my case. That's still not proof. Find the model on my shelves! Matt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 15:18:46 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Brent's webcam Message-ID: <007e01c2ab5f$c23cc300$2afb16d5@netcabo.pt> Gee Brent, Make up your mind, man: In the last 24 hours I've seen almost 24 different types and scales over the bench. Talk about quick build.... :-) Regards Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 10:14:29 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: RE: New Cook-up subject Message-ID: <003301c2ab5f$296f5480$20244918@tampabay.rr.com> > > > I call this "Exhibit A" your Honor: > > http://www.wwi-models.org/misc/FrenchWW1/Nieuport/nie1772.html > > I rest my case. > > That's still not proof. Find the model on my shelves! It's not on your shelf, it's right there on the bench next to the Spad A.2 ;-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 15:23:49 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Michelin Bomb Racks Message-ID: <008d01c2ab60$7696ce40$2afb16d5@netcabo.pt> > I'm thinking of bending Vees out fine SS wire as a close approximation, only > I can't figure a workable way to make them all the same size. Steve, here's an idea I borrowed from El Crazy Argentino: do a jig in wood: you cut a V, out of a piece of soft wood with the correct angle then it's just a matter of bending the wire against the sides of the V. Trim the V arms at the correct lenght and thats it. HTH Pedro > Love to hear any ideas. > TIA > sp > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 09:29:13 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Michelin Bomb Racks Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 10:19:12 -0500 (EST), Pedro Soares wrote: > Steve, here's an idea I borrowed from El Crazy Argentino: > > do a jig in wood: you cut a V, out of a piece of soft wood with the correct > angle then it's just a matter of bending the wire against the sides of the > V. Trim the V arms at the correct lenght and thats it. That's a great idea, but the size of the brackets in 1/72nd would make it difficult. This is definitely something that *needs* to be photoetched. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 10:39:11 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Michelin Bomb Racks Message-ID: <004101c2ab62$9d560440$20244918@tampabay.rr.com> > > Steve, here's an idea I borrowed from El Crazy Argentino: > > > > do a jig in wood: you cut a V, out of a piece of soft wood with the correct > > angle then it's just a matter of bending the wire against the sides of the > > V. Trim the V arms at the correct lenght and thats it. > > That's a great idea, but the size of the brackets in 1/72nd would > make it difficult. This is definitely something that *needs* to > be photoetched. > > > Matt PE is definitely needed here. I found an odd CSM Snipe PE fret that has what must be gromets for rigging. Little PE ovals. When I cut them in half, they work perfectly. Only problem is I have only enough for one B2. I think Pedro's idea will work for the other. Ken suggested cutting up the little diamond mesh of a bag like onions come in. I had some and tried it, but the material wasn't stiff enough. If they come out with a decent 1/72 Breguet, then PE bomb racks would be a must. These kits, (Merlin, CM & HR), aren't worth the effort. sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 17:22:36 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Brent's webcam Message-ID: <015d01c2ab68$ac243e00$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Brent! Do you paint your fingernails red????? ;-) G. ***************r-e-k-l-a-m-a************** Masz dosc placenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - zaloz konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 07:57:12 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: cookup Message-ID: <200212240757.13004.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> Aha, what about balloon scale DVIII's, DR1's and DII's Not to mention Staakken scale Revell DR1's and DVII (even if they take a lot of fixing). Oh and I was forgetting the old Marco Models Fokkers and of course the BattleAxe Fokkers. Seems to me all scales are catered for with the exception of an 1/48th accurate and reasonably priced DVII and EIII, but then you could rework the new/old revell one DVII. Whilst there are more in the Masters scale ;) there are still a fair number of models in the other scales. Ray On Tuesday 24 December 2002 05:44, you wrote: > Mr. Muth states: > > Ah yes, as he once said "What is modeling other than simple assault with > > unfortunate consequences?" > > And this is an eloquent description for the proposed cook-up. > > If we go Fokker for cook-up, bout guarantees dink scale as there aren't > many Fokker kits *readily* available for the blind. Fokker is not a prob > for some of us in 48+ but for others, it may be exclusionary by virtue of > scale and availability. Contrary to some aficionados, there really are a > wealth of Noops & Spads out there, even if they are ....off. Fokkers > only come in 72 these days. You know, that other fokkin scale. . . > > Ken > > obligatory CT content: > If using gloss or acrylic paints, lick your Toad *after* you've lightly > sanded it. Otherwise, it can hop away. > > np: Wheels Of Fire, side 4, track 2 > next up: Hoyt Axton: 'Mama Toad Me Not To Come' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 17:26:02 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Merry Christmas to all of you!!! Message-ID: <016701c2ab69$269c79e0$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Hi! I'm waiting for my family to come, so I have a few minutes to write even today! I want to wish you merry, happy and blessed Christmas time, you, and your families. Cheers! Grzes Mazurowski ***************r-e-k-l-a-m-a************** Masz dosc placenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - zaloz konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 08:05:28 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Merry Christmas Message-ID: <200212240805.29055.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> Well its Christmas Eve morning and which means for some on the list its Christmas Day already. Therefore I would like to wish everyone a very Merry Christmas, may at least one present be OT and your day be one filled with joy and happiness, btw dont eat too much turkey it makes you sleepy! ;) PS I have been nosing around the tree, SWMBO has bought me a karge book by the feel of things, she has been teasing me saying it might be OT or it might not!!!! ;) darn i have tro wait another 24 hours..... Suspense is killing me. Ray ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 10:42:18 -0600 From: "Rick Milas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Merry Christmas to all of you!!! Message-ID: Merry Christmas from Central Illinois. I haven't contributed much to the list, but I sure have enjoyed it over the years and have learned lots. Rick Milas _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_stopmorespam_3mf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 08:47:32 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: turning the heat down on the cookup Message-ID: <104074846801@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com> I would agree that the cookup idea is something that will probably just work once. .. sadly that is now in the past. The Albatros one worked because it was new and everyone was excited about it, and also about the abundance of new kits and information that was made available at the same time. Now everyone wants to make their pet subject into a cookup .. with the result that we end up with a 1/2 dozen of them that only the originator is really into working on and nothing gets finished .. therefore if you want to build something, just do it. If you are really interested in a particular aircraft and want to do a one-stop site devoted to it .. go for it. . but please, oh please, let's drop this cookup thing - it's been done and won't work again Bob nb: fuselage for 1/6 DWC - I hope to have it all framed in time to show off at my boxing day party ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 10:56:56 -0600 From: Peter Mullin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Holiday Wishes Message-ID: <3E0891D8.5030007@biocomp.unl.edu> Happy Holidays to everyone! May all your seams be smooth, your struts the right length, and your fingerprints invisible! -- Peter Mullin Department of Plant Pathology University of Nebraska-Lincoln 406 Plant Sciences Hall Lincoln, NE 68583-0722 (402) 472-5770 FAX: (402) 472-2853 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 18:11:20 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Odp: Merry Christmas Message-ID: <001701c2ab6f$7ac14040$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Ray! > PS I have been nosing around the tree, SWMBO has bought me a karge book by the > feel of things, she has been teasing me saying it might be OT or it might > not!!!! ;) "Fokker Airliners in '70s" a bit OT and a bit ot. ;-) > darn i have tro wait another 24 hours..... Suspense is killing me. I don't have! In Poland we are opening our gifts in evening 24th!!!!! Cheers! G. ***************r-e-k-l-a-m-a************** Masz dosc placenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - zaloz konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 04:39:52 +1100 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Merry Christmas & Unsubbing Message-ID: <044c01c2ab73$7752d0a0$1ac832d2@default> I just want to wish all Listees a very Merry Christmas and a Happy and Safe New Year. I'm going to Sydney until the 5th Jan starting tomorrow night so I'll be unsubbing in order to avoiding the 5, 226 messages that are sure to accumulate while I'm away. Season's Greetings Neil E ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 17:46:32 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WWI digest 4863 Message-ID: Ray! >Ah but Diego before you got married Wanda had no accurate idea of how many >unbuilt models you have. Now of course She knows..... Add some typical >SWMBo >logic about not buying more till there all built and hey presto new shirt >or >socks under the tree! Ah!, she doesn't know exactly HOW many I have unbuilt... I'm still moving boxes from my bachelor dugout... and I'll keep doing that for years to come! D. What a cunning plan! _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_virusprotection_3mf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 17:51:58 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: New Cook-up subject Message-ID: Matt! >That's still not proof. Find the model on my shelves! Hmmm... talk about hidden corpses in closets.... D. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_stopmorespam_3mf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 12:26:49 -0600 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: RE: Christmas traditions Message-ID: <002001c2ab7a$069541c0$9eb40c44@ok.cox.net> And the same to all my very distant cousins in the home land a safe and Holy Christmas and a prosperoust new year Tom Solinski ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 12:44:51 -0600 From: "Harris, Mack" To: "World War I (E-mail)" Subject: Antiques Roadshow Message-ID: Anybody else see this on Antiques Roadshow: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/roadshow/series/highlights/2002/indianapolis/i ndianapolis_follow4.html Mack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 12:58:44 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Antiques Roadshow Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 13:47:02 -0500 (EST), Harris, Mack wrote: > Anybody else see this on Antiques Roadshow: > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/roadshow/series/highlights/2002/indianapolis/i > ndianapolis_follow4.html Interesting. While I think the "ekspurt" knows a little - very? - I wonder what Escadrille this is from. Hmmm... Matt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 10:59:57 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Antiques Roadshow Message-ID: <104075640801@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com> COOL!!!! IIRC One of the articles in Aerodrome Modeler was on the unit that fabric came from. Bob ---------- >From: "Harris, Mack" > Anybody else see this on Antiques Roadshow: > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/roadshow/series/highlights/2002/indianapolis/i > ndianapolis_follow4.html > Mack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 13:01:27 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Strutter pondering Message-ID: The Roden Strutter comes with markings for a 1.A2 from Esc. 29. Does anyone know if there are photos of the machine that Roden has portrayed? TIA! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 11:34:46 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: DWC - Liberty engine Message-ID: <104075853301@smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com> Hi all, Does anyone have drawings for the Liberty V-12 engine? I am going to have to include some sort of representation of it in the 1/6 scale DWC as a good deal of the cylinders are exposed. I have basic drawings in WWI Aero 145 and 155, but am looking for something showing more of the details. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 14:41:38 -0500 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Merry Christmas to all of you!!! Message-ID: <020401c2ab84$7a225ba0$a2d2bacc@ptdprolog.net> Let me join in and wish everyone a Merry Christmas! And wondering if Grzes ever figured out who his Secret Santa was ? Mike Muth > Hi! > I'm waiting for my family to come, so I have a few minutes to write even > today! > > I want to wish you merry, happy and blessed Christmas time, you, and your > families. > > Cheers! > > Grzes Mazurowski > > > > ***************r-e-k-l-a-m-a************** > > Masz dosc placenia prowizji bankowi ? > mBank - zaloz konto > http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 11:59:19 -0800 (PST) From: MARK MILLER To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: another n17 question Message-ID: <20021224195919.29272.qmail@web80008.mail.yahoo.com> Does anybody have a close up photo that shows how the control lines attached to the rudder and elevator control horns? I figure it must have been attached with some kind of bracket/hardware thingy. And did the control line have turnbuckles? Merry Christmas everyone :-) Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 12:05:03 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Strutter pondering Message-ID: <104076063101@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com> Windsock 10/3 and 10/4. Jon Guttman's articles was on the foreigners in Sop.29 and they had some photos and profiles of it. Bob ---------- >From: "Matt Bittner" > The Roden Strutter comes with markings for a 1.A2 from Esc. 29. > Does anyone know if there are photos of the machine that Roden > has portrayed? TIA! > > > Matt Bittner > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 12:09:28 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: DWC - another query Message-ID: <104076063301@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com> As I go along adding the structure to the fuselage I find I have accidentally knocked a couple of the frames loose .. which tends to have me worried about its long term survival. So I'm thinking of strengthening the joints between the fuselage longerons and the various cross and upright pieces. One thought is to saturate thin strips of fabric and wrap this around the end of the upright, cross the longeron and then wrap aound the crosspiece. Any other suggestions. 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