WWI Digest 4846 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: roden se5a by "Michael Kendix" 2) re: Spad top view by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 3) Salamander complete by Dennis Ugulano 4) SE5a Question by tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) 5) X'mas Pen by Pen.Specilist 6) RE: New update by Crawford Neil 7) Re: Request for Dimensions and References by Mike Kavanaugh 8) Spad Help by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 9) RE: roden se5a by Ray 10) Re: Spad Help by tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) 11) Re: Spad Help by Crawford Neil 12) Fok. DVIII wheel lozenge by EPMyles@aol.com 13) Re: Fok. DVIII wheel lozenge by Ray 14) =?big5?Q?=C5@=BD=A7_Keep_Fit_=B7s=B8=EA=B0T_(=A4@)?= by Beauty.n.Health 15) Re: Colour of the AEG C.IVs used by the Turks? by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 16) Gremlins! by pfalzdvii@att.net 17) Re: Gremlins! by Ray 18) Renwal Aeroskin Kits by "Mark Hickey" 19) Re: Renwal Aeroskin Kits by Tom Plesha 20) Re: Renwal Aeroskin Kits by "Mark Hickey" 21) Re: Renwal Aeroskin Kits by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 22) Re: The next from "Mr. Wizard" by "Brent Theobald" 23) Re: Gremlins! by pfalzdvii@att.net 24) HiTech AEG by "Skyking" 25) Re: HiTech AEG by "Matt Bittner" 26) Re: HiTech AEG by "Skyking" 27) Re: Request for Dimensions and References by Steve Cox 28) Re: HiTech AEG by "Lance Krieg" 29) Re: Request for Dimensions and References by Volker Haeusler 30) Gotha GIII was Re: HiTech AEG by "Pedro Soares" 31) Re: Request for Dimensions and References by Steve Cox ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:20:50 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: roden se5a Message-ID: >From: "Shane Weier" >I'm going to be forced to forgo eating - something which would >probably do >me good. Ross is salivating over the seagoing tabloid - >mine arrived >today, and aside from gifts which may appear in the next >10 days is >probably the last kit I'll be buying for a while. I've been forced on a "Kit diet" due to my local suppliers not being able to obtain Roden kits. Of course, I could easily enough buy them from NKR or Squadron but it does make things easier to cut back. Not as though I don't have over 100 kits in the cupboard. By the way, thanks to all who who responded with good wishes about Bob Wheeler - he knows people are insterested in his welfare though he's a bit worn out right now. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:27:39 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Spad top view Message-ID: <00c901c2a506$e81d0d00$0200a8c0@grzesiek> > Grzes wrote: > >I already have it, I already have it! > >Who want to touch me? > > Are you cuddly and cute? > D. > feeling lucky to be in another continent This is a quotation from Eric Cartman, "South Park" cartoon. He isn't much cute ;-) Rather fat... G. --------------r-e-k-l-a-m-a----------------- Masz dosc placenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - zaloz konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 08:41:24 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Salamander complete Message-ID: <200212160841_MC3-1-202A-76AD@compuserve.com> Everyone, Just to let you know that the TOKO Salamander is complete. It will probably visit the photo shop today. I'm presently building four kits at the same time and only one is OT. Strange. Michael, the Sea Eagle has landed. Thank you very much. It is also under construction. It could be complete by the end of the year. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 08/10/2002 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:26:12 -0600 (CST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: SE5a Question Message-ID: <200212161326.gBGDQC826177@king1.kingsnake.com> Since the Roden SE5a with Viper is due next month, I was wondering whether it was the Viper or the Hispano that saw service in the RCW. Thoughts? Yea, very unusual me asking a question about a British machine. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:20:38 -0500 (EST) From: Pen.Specilist To: \HK033.TXT, \HK021.TXT, \HK022.TXT, \HK023.TXT, \HK024.TXT, \HK025.TXT, Subject: X'mas Pen Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_n2QirLsJgCeymtAS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_n2QirLsJgCeymtASAA" ------=_NextPart_n2QirLsJgCeymtASAA Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PCFET0NUWVBFIEhUTUwgUFVCTElDICItLy9XM0MvL0RURCBIVE1MIDQuMDEgVHJhbnNpdGlvbmFs Ly9FTiI+DQo8aHRtbD4NCjxoZWFkPg0KPHRpdGxlPlVudGl0bGVkIERvY3VtZW50PC90aXRsZT4N CjxtZXRhIGh0dHAtZXF1aXY9IkNvbnRlbnQtVHlwZSIgY29udGVudD0idGV4dC9odG1sOyBjaGFy c2V0PWJpZzUiPg0KPC9oZWFkPg0KDQo8Ym9keSBiZ2NvbG9yPSIjRkZGRjk5Ij4NCjxkaXYgYWxp Z249ImNlbnRlciI+PGltZyBzcmM9Imh0dHA6Ly9pbWFnZXMuOTI1ai5jb20vc3RhdGlvbmFyeS9z dGF0aW9uYXJ5LXBlbi5qcGciIHdpZHRoPSI2MDAiIGhlaWdodD0iMTM0MyI+IDwvZGl2Pg0KPC9i b2R5Pg0KPC9odG1sPg== ------=_NextPart_n2QirLsJgCeymtASAA-- ------=_NextPart_n2QirLsJgCeymtAS-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 15:29:48 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: New update Message-ID: It's that guy again! I was ever so impressed by his HP0/400, and this one is very good too. I like the way he's bleached his loz. really good. /Neil C. > Bernd Ner sent in an AEG G.IV that's quite stunning. > > > Matt Bittner > WW1 Modeling Page > Assistant Editor > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:25:35 -0600 From: Mike Kavanaugh To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Request for Dimensions and References Message-ID: <3DFDF06F.9030202@netscape.net> Thanks Karen, I have the books. I'd be better at researching if I could just remember what I have . . and if I had learned to read instead of just looking at pictures. I found the Macchi M.9 on Mike Fletcher's drawings cd. While the three smaller ones are borderline for me, the Lohner R1 looks like "soon". I've got so many "G" types to do, the H-B will have to wait. It looks as if I'm slowly sliding over to the dark side. :<(( Karen Rychlewski wrote: > Mike > Although I don't have 'real life' dimensions for these five, I can tell you > this: the scale GA drawings with the first four measure thusly. > Macchi M.9--wingspan: 21.4cm; fuselage length: 12.2cm > Lohner M31 and S30 are basically the same plane--wingspan: 18.5cm; fuse: > 12.4cm > Brandenburg G.I--wingspan: 24.8cm; fuse 12.8 > I don't have the Lohner R (yet) but it would definitely be larger than > these--as would the Friedrichshaffen G.IIIs and the Felixstowes. > As far as references, the FMP "Austro-Hungarian Aircraft..." and the > Hauke/Schroeder/Totschinger book on Austrian seaplanes would be the prime > sources for photos and info. > > LMK if I can help with the references > > Karen > -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:40:50 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Spad Help Message-ID: <002e01c2a519$8364c520$b7395b0c@millipore.com> Howdy! Who is our resident Spad expert these days? I have some questions regarding primarily French & British Spad 13s. Can you contact me off-line? Regards, John Cyg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:21:24 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: roden se5a Message-ID: <200212160721.25041.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> I think I might have to start culling my model collection to make room and budget for these. I have loads of ot 1/48 I am never going to build. remember its not just the SE5a's the F2B's come out in march too. Luckily the Rodens take a while to get to the great white north. The Albatros DIII's are only showing up now Ray ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:32:52 -0600 (CST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Spad Help Message-ID: <200212161532.gBGFWqV34083@king1.kingsnake.com> > Who is our resident Spad expert these days? I have some questions regarding > primarily French & British Spad 13s. Can you contact me off-line? That would definitely be Neil C. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:57:35 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Spad Help Message-ID: Actually not, I love Spads, but when it comes to specifics, especially on the 7 and 13, I'm pretty useless. I'm sure you know more, all I know about is the models I've built in the past few years, the rest is gone in the fog of time, I haven't actually built a Spad 7 or 13 for getting on for 10 years. And markings go in one ear and out the other, unless I actually build a model. I guess it's like this for most of us (except Volker), /Neil C. > > That would definitely be Neil C. > > > Matt > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:36:10 EST From: EPMyles@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Fok. DVIII wheel lozenge Message-ID: <1a9.dc914f7.2b2f5afa@aol.com> --part1_1a9.dc914f7.2b2f5afa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I have a quick question regarding the lozenge covers on the wheels of the Fokker D.VIII (non-Jasta 6 craft without the black and white stripes). Most instructions (Aeromaster, WS datafile) just state "4 color lozenge". However, the Eduard kit decaling instructions note that the outside wheel covers should be 4 color upper lozenge, while the inside covers should be 4 color lower lozenge. It is pretty difficult to make out anything from the datafile - in fact many wheel covers look to have been either painted, covered in non-lozenge fabric, or were covered in grime and obscured. Just wondering if anyone has any firm idea - or if it is Dicta Ira. Thanks in advance, Myles --part1_1a9.dc914f7.2b2f5afa_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello,

I have a quick question regarding the lozenge covers on the wheels of the Fokker D.VIII (non-Jasta 6 craft without the black and white stripes).  

Most instructions (Aeromaster, WS datafile) just state "4 color lozenge".  However, the Eduard kit decaling instructions note that the outside wheel covers should be 4 color upper lozenge, while the inside covers should be 4 color lower lozenge.  

It is pretty difficult to make out anything from the datafile - in fact many wheel covers look to have been either painted, covered in non-lozenge fabric, or were covered in grime and obscured.  

Just wondering if anyone has any firm idea - or if it is Dicta Ira.

Thanks in advance,
Myles
--part1_1a9.dc914f7.2b2f5afa_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 08:50:38 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Fok. DVIII wheel lozenge Message-ID: <200212160850.38162.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> In the datafile it shows four colour lozenge. Remember unlike the DVII no EV/DVIII was license built during wwi, in theory Fokker favoured four colour, Albatros favoured 5. Of course that could be a bit of a myth. Ignore the inside and outside different types of loz bit I cant see penny pinching Fokker doing that. I have always wondered if that little pearl started because Fokker used whatever left overs he had. In fact was the EVDVIII ever covered with anything but upper lozenge. Remember the fabric was pulled over the aircraft like a glove and stitched up along the underneath of the fuselage. Also make sure you check the photos of your particular aircraft. Many Fokkers didnt have lozenge wheel covers. Rather they were olive coloured or at least they look olive. This may be the reason your having a tough time working it out. Ray On Monday 16 December 2002 08:36, you wrote: > --part1_1a9.dc914f7.2b2f5afa_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hello, > > I have a quick question regarding the lozenge covers on the wheels of the > Fokker D.VIII (non-Jasta 6 craft without the black and white stripes). > > Most instructions (Aeromaster, WS datafile) just state "4 color lozenge". > However, the Eduard kit decaling instructions note that the outside wheel > covers should be 4 color upper lozenge, while the inside covers should be 4 > color lower lozenge. > > It is pretty difficult to make out anything from the datafile - in fact > many wheel covers look to have been either painted, covered in non-lozenge > fabric, or were covered in grime and obscured. > > Just wondering if anyone has any firm idea - or if it is Dicta Ira. > > Thanks in advance, > Myles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:13:02 -0500 (EST) From: Beauty.n.Health To: Health, G2 Subject: =?big5?Q?=C5@=BD=A7_Keep_Fit_=B7s=B8=EA=B0T_(=A4@)?= Message-ID: D! 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Extracolour German Purple - see my Albatros D-V ATB N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 3:28 PM Subject: [WWI] Colour of the AEG C.IVs used by the Turks? > What colours did the Turks have their AEG C.IVs painted in? I am > assuming that they didn't change the colour that they came in expect of > course for the marking. > > So did they come in green and purple top surfaces and CDL under > surfaces? Or green and brown top surfaces and light blue under surface? > > If its the Purple one is there a matching model paint out there? Do > Polly Scale do this colour? > > Cheers & TIA > > Ross > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 18:02:00 +0000 From: pfalzdvii@att.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org (WWI LIst) Subject: Gremlins! Message-ID: <20021216180201.WIAB20003.mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net@mtiwebc19> It seems that the list gremlins have finally bitten my backside (a larger target in recent years, I admit). During the weekend, they unsubscribed me. I thought it was a little quiet. I resubscribed, but as yet, have still gotten no messages, somebody please post something, so I can see if 'took'. TIA Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:20:16 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org, pfalzdvii@att.net Subject: Re: Gremlins! Message-ID: <200212161020.16943.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> Merrill If you see two messages then it took properly since I replied to the list and you! On Monday 16 December 2002 10:03, pfalzdvii@att.net wrote: > It seems that the list gremlins have finally bitten my backside (a larger > target in recent years, I admit). During the weekend, they unsubscribed me. > I thought it was a little quiet. I resubscribed, but as yet, have still > gotten no messages, somebody please post something, so I can see if 'took'. > TIA > Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:30:10 -0900 From: "Mark Hickey" To: Subject: Renwal Aeroskin Kits Message-ID: I'm trying to track down some of the Renwal Aeroskin kits. They were around during the 60's. I'd appreciate any leads. Thanks, Mark Hickey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:50:22 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Plesha To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Renwal Aeroskin Kits Message-ID: <20021216195022.62858.qmail@web40302.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Mark- They show up on e-bay. .. Later Tom --- Mark Hickey wrote: > I'm trying to track down some of the Renwal Aeroskin > kits. They were around > during the 60's. I'd appreciate any leads. > > Thanks, > Mark Hickey > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:18:00 -0900 From: "Mark Hickey" To: Subject: Re: Renwal Aeroskin Kits Message-ID: Thanks - I'll keep an eye out. Mark -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Tom Plesha Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 10:53 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Renwal Aeroskin Kits Hi Mark- They show up on e-bay. .. Later Tom --- Mark Hickey wrote: > I'm trying to track down some of the Renwal Aeroskin > kits. They were around > during the 60's. I'd appreciate any leads. > > Thanks, > Mark Hickey > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:25:58 -0600 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: Subject: Re: Renwal Aeroskin Kits Message-ID: Watch the prices, though. I once saw some guy's asking bid for the 1/72 Fokker Triplane at $95 US. Last time I checked, the "book value" on these kits was in the range of $12-15 US. There are 12 kits in the 1/72 series. Don't know much about the 1/48 series. Paul -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Tom Plesha Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:53 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Renwal Aeroskin Kits Hi Mark- They show up on e-bay. .. Later Tom --- Mark Hickey wrote: > I'm trying to track down some of the Renwal Aeroskin > kits. They were around > during the 60's. I'd appreciate any leads. > > Thanks, > Mark Hickey > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 21:08:48 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The next from "Mr. Wizard" Message-ID: Howdy! I was discussing Hustad's Friedrichafen with John Roll. John was certain Hustad would take Best in Show in the OKC Nationals. He was certain until I mentioned Lance's Felixstowe would be there. "The one on Internet Modeler?" "Yup!" "Uh-oh!" Later Gators! Brent >From: pfalzdvii@att.net >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] The next from "Mr. Wizard" >Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 21:15:06 -0500 (EST) > >I spoke with Steve Hustad at the meeting of the local modeling club, and he >said he's almost done with his Friedrichafen G.III, (the Sierra Vac) which >he >is doing as a G.IIIa (biplane tail). Night loz, the works, should be >amazing >(as always). Hope to have him give me some photos to share, when he's done >(around mid January). > >Merrill _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 21:39:05 +0000 From: pfalzdvii@att.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Gremlins! Message-ID: <20021216213906.CCYS20003.mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net@mtiwebc17> Thanks, Ray, I got them both. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:46:29 -0500 From: "Skyking" To: Subject: HiTech AEG Message-ID: <000501c2a54c$98a2d160$376efea9@rochester.rr.com> I was just curious if anyone has started their AEG from HiTech yet. I am looking at mine and starting to get subliminal "build me" messages, so I was wondering if anyone can pass on some sage words of wisdom. I'm back on the net again after a bout with heart trouble ( doing fine thanks) and raring to get building again. I just finished (mostly, got some fiddley stuff to install yet, as I got kinda burned out on it) Copper State Models Gotha G-III and it's featured at www.hyperscale.com if anyone wants to take a look. Cheers and happy Holidays Mike Robinson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:04:28 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: HiTech AEG Message-ID: On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:41:37 -0500 (EST), Skyking wrote: > I was just curious if anyone has started their AEG from HiTech yet. I am > looking at mine and starting to get subliminal "build me" messages, so I was > wondering if anyone can pass on some sage words of wisdom. I'm back on the > net again after a bout with heart trouble ( doing fine thanks) and raring to > get building again. I just finished (mostly, got some fiddley stuff to > install yet, as I got kinda burned out on it) Copper State Models Gotha > G-III and it's featured at www.hyperscale.com if anyone wants to take a > look. Check the site. Bernd just sent in images of his completed one. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:44:53 -0500 From: "Skyking" To: Subject: Re: HiTech AEG Message-ID: <003601c2a554$c0c706e0$376efea9@rochester.rr.com> Oy, that is gorgeous. My subliminal messages just went from "build me" to "mail me to Bern and let him build me"... Awesome... and painted with a potato yet. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:55:12 +0000 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: Request for Dimensions and References Message-ID: I can find no reference for a Lohner RI in the German Giants book regards Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html http://www.bramptonscalemodelclub.fsnet.co.uk If I didn't spend so much time on line I'd get some models finished ================ > From: Mike Kavanaugh > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 17:15:55 -0500 (EST) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Request for Dimensions and References > > While fondling the Choroszy Modelbud Friedrichshafen F33E kit pieces > last night, entertaining thoughts of starting yet another model without > having finished one recently, I took a look at Karayas Choroszy listing > and discovered several new (to me anyhow) kit issues, all 1/72 scale. > The F33E is about as small as I dare go in this scale, eyesight (even > with optivisor) and fumble fingers being the limiting factors. There > are five kits listed that I might be interested in if they are large > enough. Ive searched through my references and cannot find any > dimensions on them. They are: Macchi M.9, Lohner M31, Lohner Type S30, > Hansa-Brandenburg G.I and Lohner Type R1. I suspect the last two will > be big enough because of the G and R classifications and they cost > $10 more per kit than the others . > > I would appreciate any help with dimensions and/or leads to reference > materials. > > TIA, > Mike Kavanaugh > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:59:41 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: HiTech AEG Message-ID: Mike wonders: "...if anyone has started their AEG from HiTech yet." You saw Bern's and I believe Candace built hers as well, n'est pas? Glad your on the mend... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 07:29:23 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Request for Dimensions and References Message-ID: <005c01c2a55a$f9cd0d80$0301a8c0@com1> Steve, Mike, > I can find no reference for a Lohner RI in the German Giants book > regards > Steve snip > > Hansa-Brandenburg G.I and Lohner Type R1. I suspect the last two will > > be big enough because of the "G" and "R" classifications and they cost > > $10 more per kit than the others . The Lohner R 1 can neither be in the German Giants book (cause its AH) nor in the FMP AH Army Aircraft book (because its not AH Army either). Actually the R 1 was an AH *Navy flying boat* where "R" stood for "Rekognoszierungsflugzeug" or recce aircraft. *2 different aircraft* with the same designation build by Lohner (as well as a third "R 1" from Mickl), span more or less the same as for the "L" or "S" aircraft at 10 m (for the first R 1) and 10.85 m for the second. No idea which one the kit represents, but I would guess its the second (called the "Schuetzenboot") which had a modified gunners position in the nose - else similar to the L and S type. Data all from the Schupita book on AH naval aircraft (Geran book, but there isstill the promised English translation somewhere out there). No idea why they charge more for this model... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 23:32:40 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Gotha GIII was Re: HiTech AEG Message-ID: <001101c2a55b$6e4de1c0$31465451@netcabo.pt> Mike, first of all congratulations for your nice Gotha GIII. I saw it on Hyperscale and it sure looks good. As someone who as built a gotha in the same scheme as yours but on the other scale, I have one question and I'd be quite pleased to hear you opinion about it: It concerns the exhausts. Roden (the kit I made) supplies the same type of exhausts you used (I saw you discarded the kit parts and made new ones) and I have used them on my model. Still the Datafile shows this particular aicraft as having what we have termed "rhyno" exhausts: the tipe that have all the pipes connected to an upward "chimney". Of all the photos I've seen of Gothas, I've never seen any evidence of this, even on one of the aircraft you and I modeled, which can be found at :http://www.pilots-n-planes-ww1.com/Central-Powers/German/Planes/Gotha/G3/Go tha-G3-389-16_03.jpg. Did you give this a thought and decided to use the "normal" exhausts or did you just follow the instructions on the kit? Thanks and again congratulations on a nice model Regards Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 23:40:24 +0000 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: Request for Dimensions and References Message-ID: thanks, Volker, I LAL (live and learn). now knowing where to look, I had a look in the Harleyford Marine Aircraft book, again this lists the R type as a version of the L flying boat, with a span of 53 feet Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html http://www.bramptonscalemodelclub.fsnet.co.uk If I didn't spend so much time on line I'd get some models finished ================ > From: Volker Haeusler > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 18:28:08 -0500 (EST) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Request for Dimensions and References > > Steve, Mike, > >> I can find no reference for a Lohner RI in the German Giants book >> regards >> Steve > > snip >>> Hansa-Brandenburg G.I and Lohner Type R1. I suspect the last two will >>> be big enough because of the "G" and "R" classifications and they cost >>> $10 more per kit than the others . > > The Lohner R 1 can neither be in the German Giants book (cause its AH) nor > in the FMP AH Army Aircraft book (because its not AH Army either). > > Actually the R 1 was an AH *Navy flying boat* where "R" stood for > "Rekognoszierungsflugzeug" or recce aircraft. *2 different aircraft* with > the same designation build by Lohner (as well as a third "R 1" from Mickl), > span more or less the same as for the "L" or "S" aircraft at 10 m (for the > first R 1) and 10.85 m for the second. No idea which one the kit represents, > but I would guess its the second (called the "Schuetzenboot") which had a > modified gunners position in the nose - else similar to the L and S type. > > Data all from the Schupita book on AH naval aircraft (Geran book, but there > isstill the promised English translation somewhere out there). > > No idea why they charge more for this model... > > Volker > > > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4846 **********************