WWI Digest 4845 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Colour of the AEG C.IVs used by the Turks? by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 2) Re: Request for Dimensions and References by Karen Rychlewski 3) honeymooning... is it really over? by Ken Schmitt 4) CSM Gotha by pfalzdvii@att.net 5) Big Money in Lotto MLM 12/16/2002 2:00:37 AM by "LottoMLM" 6) RE: roden se5a by "Shane Weier" 7) Re: new clerget image by Ray 8) New Painting Tool by "Fraser" 9) RE: roden se5a by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 10) RE: roden se5a by Crawford Neil 11) Re: Another update to my site.. Resin Casting report. by "Diego Fernetti" 12) RE: roden se5a by "Steven Perry" 13) RE: roden se5a by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 14) RE: roden se5a by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 15) eric's twin handleys by "Diego Fernetti" 16) Re: Another update to my site.. Resin Casting report. by "Diego Fernetti" 17) Painting soft figures was: RE: roden se5a by "Steven Perry" 18) RE: roden se5a by "Steven Perry" 19) Re: Another update to my site.. Resin Casting report. by "NEIL EDDY" 20) RE: Painting soft figures was: RE: roden se5a by Crawford Neil 21) Re: Another update to my site.. Resin Casting report. by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 22) Re: ot Electrical help needed by "Diego Fernetti" 23) Re: Colour of the AEG C.IVs used by the Turks? by "NEIL EDDY" 24) Re: New update by "Diego Fernetti" 25) Re: honeymooning... is it really over? by "Diego Fernetti" 26) Spad top view by Crawford Neil 27) RE: roden se5a by "Diego Fernetti" 28) re: Spad top view by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 29) Re: new clerget image by MARK MILLER 30) re: Spad top view by "Diego Fernetti" 31) Re: new clerget image by "Steven Perry" 32) Re: Bob Wheeler update by Allan Wright ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 15:27:45 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Cc: Subject: Colour of the AEG C.IVs used by the Turks? Message-ID: <000a01c2a4bb$7e9615c0$f5482dcb@future> What colours did the Turks have their AEG C.IVs painted in? I am assuming that they didn't change the colour that they came in expect of course for the marking. So did they come in green and purple top surfaces and CDL under surfaces? Or green and brown top surfaces and light blue under surface? If its the Purple one is there a matching model paint out there? Do Polly Scale do this colour? Cheers & TIA Ross ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 23:49:55 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Request for Dimensions and References Message-ID: <3DFD5B73.3574FB5D@earthlink.net> Mike Kavanaugh wrote: > ... Macchi M.9, Lohner M31, Lohner Type S30, > Hansa-Brandenburg G.I and Lohner Type R1. > ... > > I would appreciate any help with dimensions and/or leads to reference > materials. Mike Although I don't have 'real life' dimensions for these five, I can tell you this: the scale GA drawings with the first four measure thusly. Macchi M.9--wingspan: 21.4cm; fuselage length: 12.2cm Lohner M31 and S30 are basically the same plane--wingspan: 18.5cm; fuse: 12.4cm Brandenburg G.I--wingspan: 24.8cm; fuse 12.8 I don't have the Lohner R (yet) but it would definitely be larger than these--as would the Friedrichshaffen G.IIIs and the Felixstowes. As far as references, the FMP "Austro-Hungarian Aircraft..." and the Hauke/Schroeder/Totschinger book on Austrian seaplanes would be the prime sources for photos and info. LMK if I can help with the references Karen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:33:40 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: honeymooning... is it really over? Message-ID: Diego, The Ancient One, re-joins: > after 23 hours of riding a b***dy bus well. a few months ago you'd have crawled over broken glass, fought three tigers, built 1 Naglo and single-handedly become The Hero Of Verdun, just to spend 15 minutes gazing into the the wishing well of your Fair Lady's eyes... Cyrano! You are sounding like an elder gent! Bus ride, pffft! Old men complain about bus rides. Young men go get another bouquet of flowers and sing songs all night. or something. I forget... Ken S., however, geographically, N. Central. South of Canada. East of Java. West of the bus. welcome back, deude. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 05:18:05 +0000 From: pfalzdvii@att.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org (WWI LIst) Subject: CSM Gotha Message-ID: <20021216051805.RGGZ9286.mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net@mtiwebc15> There's a completed CSM Gotha at HyperScale. 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Shane _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 21:45:17 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: new clerget image Message-ID: <200212132145.17947.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> Mark, Wow, just for the record how long does it take to digitally draw/paint? one of these images On Friday 13 December 2002 21:49, you wrote: > Finaly got around to generating a plan view of this > engine. > http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Miller/render/Camel/clergeplansm.jpg > > If anybody wants a bigger version go here: > http://briefcase.yahoo.com/mark_.m@sbcglobal.net > look in the camel folder. > It's 2000 pixels across - about 390k > > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:05:31 +0100 From: "Fraser" To: Subject: New Painting Tool Message-ID: <002d01c2a4f3$0d069aa0$fe78a8c0@pc145681> Yeah, I've seen these around, Couldn't figure how one would apply to the way I paint though. They come in multifarioius shapes. Let us know if they're useful. I'd be intrigued. Fraser While in an art supplies shop (looking for a book on painting birds in watercolours from my father in law, who at the age of 80 has taken up painting again), I found this intruiging tool http://www.colourshaper.com/ I bought a couple to try - anyone used them? (particlularly our artists). I'm thinking on trying them for painting fine lines (or WW2 'wave' type schemes) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:29:27 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: roden se5a Message-ID: <001f01c2a4f6$678f4d70$f5482dcb@future> Must put credit card back in hiding spot..... No buying from Earl for the rest of the year....... aaaarrrrgggghhhhhh Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Shane Weier Sent: Monday, 16 December 2002 6:15 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] RE: roden se5a Michael, > >LOL - of what, the Hisso or the Viper. Or more than one of each? > > > >Budget buggered - by February ;-) > >Shane: > >Fortunately, these are nice inexpensive kits:). In any case, I'm "saving" >hobby money by foregoing the U.S. Nationals for 2003 I'm going to be forced to forgo eating - something which would probably do me good. Ross is salivating over the seagoing tabloid - mine arrived today, and aside from gifts which may appear in the next 10 days is probably the last kit I'll be buying for a while. Famous last words..... Shane _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:36:18 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: roden se5a Message-ID: When out toy-shopping for christmas, I picked up a box of Heller luftwaffe mechanics, thought they might come in useful, overalls looked the same in WW1, horrid plastic of course, what is the method for painting these? Anyway my wife told me that its for my seventieth birthday, she's catching on! /Neil C. (a little bit snowy) > Must put credit card back in hiding spot..... No buying from Earl for > the rest of the year....... aaaarrrrgggghhhhhh > > Ross > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:39:18 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Another update to my site.. Resin Casting report. Message-ID: Pedro! >Ah, no prob. D. It is I who should have chosen something easier to begin >with :-). I've been thinking about the problems you mentioned, and even talked about this with Martin Afflitto on the phone. I guess that one thing that you can try on the master is to burnish a piece of aluminium foil over the pipes, so they will be connected amongst them with the thin foil. When the resin copy is made, you can easily cut the pour base and the "webbimng" between the pipes with a knife. Just my devaluated 2 cents of peso D. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 06:43:31 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: RE: roden se5a Message-ID: <002c01c2a4f8$5d338f60$20244918@tampabay.rr.com> > Must put credit card back in hiding spot..... No buying from Earl for > the rest of the year....... aaaarrrrgggghhhhhh > > Ross You poor dear, why that's almost half a billing cycle. Hang tough dude, January and the new year will be here soon. sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:43:50 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: roden se5a Message-ID: <002701c2a4f8$66f852b0$f5482dcb@future> Have not tried this, but have thought that maybe a coat of Future might be the way to go first. Then apply your paint over that. But don't blame me if it doesn't work. ;-) Cheers Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Crawford Neil Sent: Monday, 16 December 2002 10:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] RE: roden se5a When out toy-shopping for christmas, I picked up a box of Heller luftwaffe mechanics, thought they might come in useful, overalls looked the same in WW1, horrid plastic of course, what is the method for painting these? Anyway my wife told me that its for my seventieth birthday, she's catching on! /Neil C. (a little bit snowy) > Must put credit card back in hiding spot..... No buying from Earl for > the rest of the year....... aaaarrrrgggghhhhhh > > Ross > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:50:03 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: roden se5a Message-ID: <002801c2a4f9$453a3610$f5482dcb@future> Thankfully I don't use credit, even though it's a credit card. I make sure the money is in there first to cover the purchase... I think I will have to do more planing and try to stick to that plan. So that means I can now buy all the OT kits I want.... ;-) Ross -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Steven Perry Sent: Monday, 16 December 2002 10:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] RE: roden se5a > Must put credit card back in hiding spot..... No buying from Earl for > the rest of the year....... aaaarrrrgggghhhhhh > > Ross You poor dear, why that's almost half a billing cycle. Hang tough dude, January and the new year will be here soon. sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:54:56 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: eric's twin handleys Message-ID: Eric the Gaul has written: >That's nice, I will have 2 HP 0/400. I could convert one of them into HP >0/100 with the Rosemond conversion ;-) Par Toutatis, sont fous ces modelistes! ;-) D. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:57:46 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Another update to my site.. Resin Casting report. Message-ID: Ross! >When I bought my casting stuff I asked if they >sold books on doing it. The guy showed me some on casting heads. I mean >life-size heads. I had visions of me walking around the house for 24 >hours with this RTV mould on my head. I think that's pretty cool, specially to scare annoying children... D. diving into the realm of faeries _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:01:06 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Painting soft figures was: RE: roden se5a Message-ID: <003601c2a4fa$d1a49a40$20244918@tampabay.rr.com> > When out toy-shopping for christmas, I picked up a box of Heller > luftwaffe mechanics, thought they might come in useful, overalls > looked the same in WW1, horrid plastic of course, what is the > method for painting these? > Have not tried this, but have thought that maybe a coat of Future might > be the way to go first. Then apply your paint over that. But don't blame > me if it doesn't work. ;-) Are these that dreadful soft plastic? I have some figures by IMEX that are made of that stuff and they will shed paint pretty readily if scuffed or flexed. I haven't tried Future, but I expect that dipping the whole figure in Future would give a surface that paint could adhere too, I just don't know if the Future will hold to the plastic any better than the paint does, though I think sans pigment it might. Couple weeks ago when I tried oil washes for the first time, I washed a bare soft plastic figure just to see how the wash would settle in the creases. It's well dry now and it seems the turpentine in the wash may have given the plastic a little "tooth" and it might take paint better. It may be as simple as a wash of thinner before painting to get the paint to stick. I'll put some paint on it today just to see and report back. I've also heard that a special auto primer for flexible plastic bumpers works well on these, but haven't found any to try. sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:05:49 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: RE: roden se5a Message-ID: <004401c2a4fb$79435e80$20244918@tampabay.rr.com> > Thankfully I don't use credit, even though it's a credit card. I make > sure the money is in there first to cover the purchase... I think I will > have to do more planing and try to stick to that plan. So that means I > can now buy all the OT kits I want.... ;-) I hear that. A money order goes in the credit card file folder before the order goes out. Otherwise ...plactic induced fiscal disaster. sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 23:05:54 +1100 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: Another update to my site.. Resin Casting report. Message-ID: <004401c2a4fb$7d13ee80$a92c32d2@default> Is this like a glue accident? :-0 -- Original Message ----- From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" > I had visions of me walking around the house for 24 > hours with this RTV mould on my head. > > Ross > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:07:10 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Painting soft figures was: RE: roden se5a Message-ID: Yep Steve, thanks for the input, I haven't touched those litte softie soldiers since I was about ten, quite nostalgic. /Neil (Oh and, Hi to Diego, 'bout time you're back!) > > Are these that dreadful soft plastic? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 23:09:59 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Another update to my site.. Resin Casting report. Message-ID: <002a01c2a4fc$0e6a5a40$f5482dcb@future> ROFLMAO.... It's a new way of casting moulds of the kit bits that are stuck to my head from the CA. You know me all too well Neil. ;-) Cheers Ross.com -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of NEIL EDDY Sent: Monday, 16 December 2002 11:07 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Another update to my site.. Resin Casting report. Is this like a glue accident? :-0 -- Original Message ----- From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" > I had visions of me walking around the house for 24 > hours with this RTV mould on my head. > > Ross > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:17:20 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: ot Electrical help needed Message-ID: Steve P. comments: >Had a fuse blow. Take two aspirins and call me in the morning. ;-) This list gets gets the most multifarious questions, ain't it? That's why we get addicted to it. Be careful with those wires, Steve. D. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 23:18:31 +1100 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: Colour of the AEG C.IVs used by the Turks? Message-ID: <00bb01c2a4fd$3fea5c40$a92c32d2@default> Extracolour German Purple - see my Albatros D-V ATB N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 3:28 PM Subject: [WWI] Colour of the AEG C.IVs used by the Turks? > What colours did the Turks have their AEG C.IVs painted in? I am > assuming that they didn't change the colour that they came in expect of > course for the marking. > > So did they come in green and purple top surfaces and CDL under > surfaces? Or green and brown top surfaces and light blue under surface? > > If its the Purple one is there a matching model paint out there? Do > Polly Scale do this colour? > > Cheers & TIA > > Ross > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:18:29 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New update Message-ID: Astounding. Ceck his method of weathering with a potatoe (or potato), I must try that someday. D. >From: "Matt Bittner" > >Bernd Ner sent in an AEG G.IV that's quite stunning. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:21:44 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: honeymooning... is it really over? Message-ID: Ken, the crazed jerry, wrote: >a few months ago you'd have crawled over broken glass, fought three tigers, >built 1 Naglo and single-handedly become The Hero Of Verdun, just to spend >15 minutes gazing into the the wishing well of your Fair Lady's eyes... Well, that's excatly what I made just before boarding the bus. >You are sounding like an elder gent! Returning from the vacations has always been exhausting to me... >Young men go get another bouquet of flowers and sing songs all night. >or something. Ah, lots of something, that's for sure! >welcome back, deude. Thanks man, good to be in the Company of Eagles. Even those with bad hair days. D. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:23:45 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Spad top view Message-ID: I found a photo of a diving Spad 13 (I guess) from one of the old movies (again I guess). The nice thing about it is that it shows very well how the top surfaces of the wings really look. (I'm sticking to the Harry Woodman method, at least for Spads) I'll send it to anyone who asks for it. /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:25:07 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: roden se5a Message-ID: Snowy Neil wrote: >When out toy-shopping for christmas, I picked up a box of Heller >luftwaffe mechanics, thought they might come in useful, overalls >looked the same in WW1, horrid plastic of course, what is the >method for painting these? I read somewhere that you should warm them a little to cut the plastic flash more easily, and before painting them, you should coat them first with thinned white glue, that acts like a primer to avoid the paint to peel off. Of course you should thoroughly wash them with detergent priotr to this, they use to have lots of mould release agents. D. I plaed with snow last week, while in the mountains. ahhh, saudades! _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:38:15 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Spad top view Message-ID: <00b101c2a500$011c2540$0200a8c0@grzesiek> I already have it, I already have it! Who want to touch me? ;-) G. > > I found a photo of a diving Spad 13 (I guess) from one of the > old movies (again I guess). The nice thing about it is that it shows > very well how the top surfaces of the wings really look. > (I'm sticking to the Harry Woodman method, at least for Spads) > I'll send it to anyone who asks for it. > /Neil --------------r-e-k-l-a-m-a----------------- Swieta tuz tuz! http://swieta.onet.pl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 04:45:13 -0800 (PST) From: MARK MILLER To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: new clerget image Message-ID: <20021216124513.37885.qmail@web80011.mail.yahoo.com> --- Ray wrote: > Mark, > Wow, just for the record how long does it take to > digitally draw/paint? one of > these images Hi Ray a complicated question it breaks down into three tasks modeling The vast majority of the time needed to create these images is spent in generating the 3D model and maps. But, once finished, you can use the file to generate many images. Any rotary engine is relatively fast/easy because you only need to model one cylinder then just rotate/copy it around ;-) I'd guess around 30 hours for the Clerget. Rendering Think of this like photography It breaks down into my time and CPU time Your task is to set up the shot, fool around with orientation and lighting and then initiate the render. How long this takes is extremely variable. In some cases I have blundered on a good image right away, in others it takes hours of fiddling around to get the right combination. Also depends on the complexity of the image - some of the big images with multiple AC can take a while. So, on the Clerget, MY time was pretty minimal. It's a plan after all so i didn't have a lot of decisions to make. maybe an hour to set it up initialy, then about 5 minutes to start each render. The time it will take for the PC to complete is dependant on output file size and the complexity of the models and maps as well as the crunching power of your PC (RAM is particularly importusually I usualy initiate a big render just before I go to work or to bed. longest render I ever did was the DVa "ghost" images that took 36 hours!! But, that was on an older PC with less resources. My new machine would probably take 1/3 the time. The Clerget plan image is a composite of 6 seperate renders. The full front view took about 6 hours @ 3000 X 3000 pixels - the cylinders sections maybe 2 hours a piece. I think all those cooling fins is what made this take so long. Post Processing Almost all the images need some Photoshop work after they have been rendered. In many cases I'll have rendered out individual aircraft seperately that then have to be composited together into a multi level .psd file. This almost always means I have to work the edges so that the AC blends into the background. This is my least favorite task in the whole process - Mind numbing pixel editing. Some of the big images can take about 8 hours. But on the Clerget plan I have a solid color background so this edge blending wasn't neccessary Just a matter of putting together the images and organising them on the page. maybe an hour. well... I'm sure that's far more of an explanation than you bargained for, but I've been working on a tech notes article lately. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:52:14 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: re: Spad top view Message-ID: Grzes wrote: >I already have it, I already have it! >Who want to touch me? Are you cuddly and cute? D. feeling lucky to be in another continent _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:55:54 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: new clerget image Message-ID: <000f01c2a502$7844fd20$20244918@tampabay.rr.com> > Hi Ray > a complicated question > it breaks down into three tasks > > modeling > The vast majority of the time needed to create these > images is spent in generating the 3D model and maps. > But, once finished, you can use the file to generate > many images. > Any rotary engine is relatively fast/easy because you > only need to model one cylinder then just rotate/copy > it around ;-) > I'd guess around 30 hours for the Clerget. Amazing, kinda like letting paint dry on a 3D model, only the computer won't let you pick it up and get fingerprints all over it before it's done. sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 08:08:44 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Bob Wheeler update Message-ID: <200212161308.IAA06069@mustang.sr.unh.edu> > If you speak to him or his wife again give him our best. Allan > I spoke to Bob Wheeler and his wife yesterday. > > Bob is out of the hospital and is in a rehabilitation center, where he will > be given therapy so he can recover from his operation. He has pneumonia - I > think such post-operative infections are not uncommon - but he is on > medications and his wife explained that the prognosis is good. Naturally, > Bob is eager to leave the rehab facility - the food is not as good as IHOP, > he says - but he must wait until he is fairly well recovered and ready to > return home. Naturally, he still feels a bit worn out so he's not up for > visitors at this point. > > So, on the whole, good news for the most part, I think. > > Michael > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4845 **********************