WWI Digest 4832 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: RPM Renault in 1/72 by "Matt Bittner" 2) Re: Parrot name by "Shane Weier" 3) Re: Parrot name by Tom Plesha 4) FE8 72nd plans ? by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 5) More updates by "Matt Bittner" 6) Re: flag day by Ken Schmitt 7) RE: More updates by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 8) Re: FE8 72nd plans ? by "Dale Sebring" 9) Parrots by "Kenneth Zelnick" 10) 稳定，高速，安全主机100M带域名一年只需150元 by "gfdhj2003@yahoo.com.cn" 11) Do you know the new email of S. Joe Demarco Aviation Artist? by "RONDA CHAPMAN" 12) Re: Frigginbird by "John Sering" 13) Re: Flying Machine Press - DH Aircraft Vol 1 by "Shane Weier" 14) Re: Frigginbird by "John Sering" 15) 域名注册,虚拟主机 by webmaster 16) Retraction by "David C. Fletcher" 17) Re: Retraction by Larry Marshall 18) Re: Retraction by Ray 19) Re: Retraction by pfalzdvii@att.net 20) Re: Retraction by "John Sering" 21) Re: Retraction by "John Sering" 22) Re: Retraction by "John Sering" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 18:33:05 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: RPM Renault in 1/72 Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 18:06:56 -0500 (EST), Grzegorz Mazurowski wrote: > Yesss! > I have one of these. > Berliet turret with a Puteaux cannon. > Kit is available in up to 7 variants (4 WWI French, Japanese, postwar > French/German and Soviet) How about scans of the parts, please? TIA! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 11:15:18 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Parrot name Message-ID: Lee says: >Two of my family owned Cockatoos in recent times and several others had >parakeets. My grandmother was borm in 1900 and died in 1989. She owned a sulpur crested cockatoo given to her when she was *five* when it was (we think) a young bird. The cockatoo lived in a large 3m square cage beside her house until her death and now lives on anoth or her her grandsons farm. The cockatoo never got bored so far as we knew. Every so often it'd take a holida by escaping the cage, flying onto the roof of the movie theatre (which was across the street from my Dad's shop) and pulling the lead headed roofing nails out with it's beak. It would let the nails roll clatter clatter down the corrugated iron roof into the guttering until Dad would hear, close the shop, get a ladder and come to get the darn thing down. THEN it would squawk abuse including a LOT of words my grandma never used, until it had him on the roof, and quitely and calmly jump on his shoulder and *gently* nibble his ear as he tok it home. >They can be sneaky and fly up to your shoulder and grab your ear. >I suspect they do it to get attention and they usually do Cocky is never sneaky - nor ever nips hard enough to hurt. But I wouldn't trust a young one. This one must be at least 100 Shane (hey - Cocky lived before man flew, this MUST be OT) _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 17:30:24 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Plesha To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Parrot name Message-ID: <20021210013024.9850.qmail@web40310.mail.yahoo.com> You could always call it dinner? Later Tom __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:54:36 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: FE8 72nd plans ? Message-ID: <005801c29fef$180dc170$08482dcb@future> Does anyone have a set of plans for a FE8 they could scan and send to me? Cheers TIA Ross ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 20:02:37 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: More updates Message-ID: Five more IM articles and Bill Arnold's Eduard Fokker E.III have been uploaded. Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Page Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 20:10:25 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Re: flag day Message-ID: Honest David C. Fletcher flings- > > Why did you pick a carrion-eating scavenger for your > national bird? ;-) You'd have to ask Ben Franklin. He was all over the Turkey. Some status snivelling Federalist seeking majesty cooked up that bald bird, m'fraid. Franklin sneered that the eagle was a bigger bum than the Turkey and they all sat around for 8 or 9 years through a Whiskey rebellion, a Confederacy, three Grand Balls (or so), couple squabbles over who gets to buy fireworks for the Fourth and then they wrote the Bill Of Rights. It barely passed but we said what the hell and stayed with the bird, the country and well, here we all are, safe and sound some 2+ centuries later. Most of us like it. I stand corrected on them thur Geese, sir. OT...hmmm....Sopwith Goose...was there a Sopwith Goose? Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:17:51 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: More updates Message-ID: <005c01c29ff2$5a2680d0$08482dcb@future> Bill you beat me to it. I have started on my E.III from Eduard and am doing the same marking but using AG decals. Once again mate a great looking build. Cheers Ross Moorhouse Matrix Games Director of Game Development. www.matrixgames.com -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of Matt Bittner Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 1:06 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] More updates Five more IM articles and Bill Arnold's Eduard Fokker E.III have been uploaded. Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Page Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 19:40:03 -0700 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: FE8 72nd plans ? Message-ID: <004101c29ff5$72207990$7212fea9@dale> Ross, I have the Harleyford 3-views & also I believe, somewhere 1/8" scale drawings if these will help? Regards, Dale > Does anyone have a set of plans for a FE8 they could scan and send to > me? > > Cheers TIA > > Ross > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 20:46:47 -0600 From: "Kenneth Zelnick" To: Subject: Parrots Message-ID: <001101c29ff6$62877190$6401a8c0@zelnick> Had to put in my $.02 before this thread gets squashed. We had a parrot for several years, and it was definitely a one-person bird. If you were the one it liked, it was gentle, and loved to be petted. It would even crawl down inside my shirt, crawl around, then poke its head out. My son would ride his bicycle up and down the street with the parrot perched on his shoulder. Eventually we gave it to my parents because wife seemed to be allergic. It adopted my father and wouldn't let my mother anywhere near it. The sad end to the story is that after Dad died, Mom decided to get a dog, and forgot to put the parrot back in the cage when she left the room. The parrot flew, and the dog had it before Mom could stop it. Dog 1, Parrot 0. OT content: Now building an MPM Hansa-Brandenburg W.29. Cheers, Ken Zelnick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 18:52:50 -0800 (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) From: "gfdhj2003@yahoo.com.cn" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: 稳定，高速，安全主机100M带域名一年只需150元 Message-ID: <3DEE43060020F26A@mta2.wss.scd.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) 亲爱的朋友：　　您好！　　这是来自厦门市盈通远航电子科技有限公司的问侯。感谢您收看这封邮件。我们真诚的希望您能成为我们在贵地区的重要伙伴。我们是一家致力于互联网信息服务、电子商务服务和企业应用服务的高新技术企业。我们有着多年从事操作系统的经验,这为我们的空间稳定提供了保证.我们的服务宗旨是:稳定压倒一切!详情请浏览:http://www.comdns.com email:webmaster@comdns.com 谢谢！　　1、200M空间＋1个国际域名，功能全面，仅售150元/年；　　 2、60M空间＋60M企业邮局＋1个国际域名，功能全面，仅售236元/年；　　3、200M空间＋200M企业邮局＋1个国际域名，功能全面，仅售336元/年。 “稳定压倒一切”是全体盈通人的服务宗旨，我们郑重承诺： 1、盈通主机全部采用原装Dell PowerApp互联网应用服务器； 2、盈通主机全部安装正版Turbolinux或Microsoft操作系统； 3、采用世界标准的SNMP进行24x7x365 系统监测； 4、盈通主机客户一个月内可无条件全额退款；其它按实际余额退款。　　祝：开心！顺利！厦门市盈通远航电子科技有限公司地址：厦门市禾山路266-268号联谊大厦7楼 QQ:755139 电话:0592-5557492 传真:0592-5580200 --------------------------------------------------------------- 沸点群发邮件,来自软件工程专家网(http://www.21cmm.com) 进CMM网校(http://www.21cmm.com)，成项目管理专家 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 21:15:17 -0600 From: "RONDA CHAPMAN" To: Subject: Do you know the new email of S. Joe Demarco Aviation Artist? Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C29FC8.129B7A10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, My name is Ronda Chapman and I bought a S.J. Demarco Corsair print back = in 1985 (possibly at the aviation art gallery at Love Field in Dallas). It was marked 1983 as a print date, and was 41/650. Are you friends = with the artist and if so, could you relay his military history to me. = The Print now hangs in my son's room and I have always loved it. I = would like to be able to tell him as much about it as possible when he = gets older. Ronda Chapman Chelsea, Al ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C29FC8.129B7A10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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My name is Ronda Chapman and I bought a S.J. Demarco Corsair print = back in=20 1985 (possibly at the aviation art gallery at Love Field in = Dallas).

It was marked 1983 as a print date, and was 41/650. Are you = friends=20 with the artist and if so, could you relay his military history to = me. The=20 Print now hangs in my son's room and I have always loved it. I = would like=20 to be able to tell him as much about it as possible when he gets = older.

Ronda Chapman

Chelsea, Al

------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C29FC8.129B7A10-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 21:33:29 -0600 From: "John Sering" To: Subject: Re: Frigginbird Message-ID: <005501c29ffc$e9052a40$82ca4cd8@default> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Schmitt" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:48 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Frigginbird Because we didn't want a fekkin' english bulldog. . . Olsarge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:07:21 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Flying Machine Press - DH Aircraft Vol 1 Message-ID: Lance >On the other hand, Karen and I have been bickering about the Stair >plans in the Datafile, which I took to have some serious shortcomings >insofar as the wing placement is concerned. This I'd like to hear about. Without a DH-4 to measure I can't actually see any error (though I am yet to measure the stagger - OTOH it looks about 1/4inch in 1/48 which would be exactly right) >In consequence, I thought >that other plans might be more accurate, and IIRC actually prefered the >FMP plans, though the Mick Davis plans in the DH4-DH9 File were the >best >IMHO. Don't have that either. I might get it if the $$$ permit Shane _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 22:30:32 -0600 From: "John Sering" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Frigginbird Message-ID: <010601c2a004$e1436940$82ca4cd8@default> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David C. Fletcher" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 12:35 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Frigginbird > Ken Schmitt wrote: > > "...a huge flock of Canadian Geese to scatter..." > > > I'm not an ornithologist, but they are Canada Geese, not Canadian geese > unless they live here! > > "the Baldie just sits there looking patriotic." > > There are scores of them around here, and they don't look patriotic, > they lust sit there on the treetops looking for dead salmon to wash up > on the shore. Why did you pick a carrion-eating scavenger for your > national bird? ;-) > > Now to think of some OT reference before I get WWIII started... > > Dave Fletcher > > > BOOM! TOO LATE!!!! I'll give you a 'canadian goose'! Talk about scavengers; have you been to your local garbage dump to feed the polar bears recently? I did not bust my butt for 30 years to read the horsecrap of some smartmouth a**hole belittle our choice of birds. I have a 'bird' for you numbnuts. Are you receiving me or do I have to draw you a picture??? Some of your politicos have tripped over their 'manhood' retracting recent comments directed our way, do you want to try, hoser?? Or should we just sell you cannucks back to the French & Indians???? 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Fletcher" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Retraction Message-ID: <3DF57596.5060802@mars.ark.com> If I offended anyone with what was intended to be a light-hearted jab at our American friends, then I apologize. I do not believe that an insulting and invective-filled response was appropriate, so I will not respond to that. Let us carry on and talk about models and history. DCF ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:15:11 -0500 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Retraction Message-ID: <200212100015.11745.larrym@sympatico.ca> > If I offended anyone with what was intended to be a light-hearted jab at > our American friends, then I apologize. I do not believe that an Dave, I'm sure you're aware that there was only one offensive msg in that thread and it came from someone who's name we've never seen here. He's either lost, drunk or both. In any case he's best ignored. -- Cheers --- Larry Marshall Quebec City, QC ------------------------------ Date: 09 Dec 2002 21:47:28 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Retraction Message-ID: <1039499248.2135.12.camel@00-10-4b-0c-95-03.bconnected.net> Dave, a little humour didn't hurt anyone or any country, lets face it us Canadians learned to laugh at ourselves a long time ago, the only bad comment seemed to come as Larry said from someone who is invisible most of the time! Ray. PS its the black bears who spend most of their time in the garbage dumps, polar bears prefer the Ice or downtown Churchill On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 21:21, Larry Marshall wrote: > > > If I offended anyone with what was intended to be a light-hearted jab at > > our American friends, then I apologize. I do not believe that an > > Dave, I'm sure you're aware that there was only one offensive msg in that > thread and it came from someone who's name we've never seen here. He's > either lost, drunk or both. In any case he's best ignored. > > -- > Cheers --- Larry Marshall > Quebec City, QC > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 06:08:14 +0000 From: pfalzdvii@att.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Retraction Message-ID: <20021210060822.ALR14284.mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net@mtiwebc16> I think "olsarge" was kidding, doing an R.Lee Ermy impression, maybe he's seen too many of History Channel's "Mail Call" ads, where Retired Drill Instructor Ermy, gets his face in the camera like they used to do in boot camp, until about 25 years ago. The guy is a newcomer to the list, and may have gone 'over the top' a bit, but I assume it was in jest.JOFO Merrill > Dave, a little humour didn't hurt anyone or any country, lets face it us > Canadians learned to laugh at ourselves a long time ago, the only bad > comment seemed to come as Larry said from someone who is invisible most > of the time! > > Ray. PS its the black bears who spend most of their time in the garbage > dumps, polar bears prefer the Ice or downtown Churchill > > On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 21:21, Larry Marshall wrote: > > > > > If I offended anyone with what was intended to be a light-hearted jab at > > > our American friends, then I apologize. I do not believe that an > > > > Dave, I'm sure you're aware that there was only one offensive msg in that > > thread and it came from someone who's name we've never seen here. He's > > either lost, drunk or both. In any case he's best ignored. > > > > -- > > Cheers --- Larry Marshall > > Quebec City, QC > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 01:06:51 -0600 From: "John Sering" To: Subject: Re: Retraction Message-ID: <001401c2a01a$b7c30380$82ca4cd8@default> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David C. Fletcher" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 11:07 PM Subject: [WWI] Retraction > If I offended anyone with what was intended to be a light-hearted jab at > our American friends, then I apologize. I do not believe that an > insulting and invective-filled response was appropriate, so I will not > respond to that. Let us carry on and talk about models and history. > > DCF > > Dear Mr Fletcher and list, I will apologize for my 'insulting and invective-filled response' that you feel was inappropriate as long as you admit your comments were just as insulting & invective too. I do not apprecaite nor tolerate 'American Bashing', no matter how subtle and contrived. I can take a joke but IMHO your joke went too far. As to the 'admonishments' from other list members - your threats & comments roll off my back as water off a duck. If I choose to take a stand on an issue am I to be relegated to the catagory of a drunken fool? For those of you that served in combat I would expect a bit of tolerance for my remarks. Those that haven't served have no idea what some of us endured. No one on this list knows me - yet I am judged. I then must assume this group is a clique tied up in 'political correctness' and not interested in sharing information with newcomers. If that is the case, I have no problem in trashing my model kits into lumps of burned, twisted humps of melted plastic unworthy of lighting a poor cigar. Should the listowners decide to ban me, so be it. I was only looking for advice in assembling two model aircraft - something for a disabled vet to pass the winter days. Oh hell, I'll just paint them pink and think of y'all. Olsarge USA (retd) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 02:15:52 -0600 From: "John Sering" To: Subject: Re: Retraction Message-ID: <002901c2a024$5c483ca0$82ca4cd8@default> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 12:09 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Retraction > I think "olsarge" was kidding, doing an R.Lee Ermy impression, maybe he's seen > too many of History Channel's "Mail Call" ads, where Retired Drill Instructor > Ermy, gets his face in the camera like they used to do in boot camp, until > about 25 years ago. The guy is a newcomer to the list, and may have gone 'over > the top' a bit, but I assume it was in jest.JOFO > Merrill > > Dave, a little humour didn't hurt anyone or any country, lets face it us > > Canadians learned to laugh at ourselves a long time ago, the only bad > > comment seemed to come as Larry said from someone who is invisible most > > of the time! > > > > Ray. PS its the black bears who spend most of their time in the garbage > > dumps, polar bears prefer the Ice or downtown Churchill > > > > On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 21:21, Larry Marshall wrote: > > > > > > > If I offended anyone with what was intended to be a light-hearted jab at > > > > our American friends, then I apologize. I do not believe that an > > > > > > Dave, I'm sure you're aware that there was only one offensive msg in that > > > thread and it came from someone who's name we've never seen here. He's > > > either lost, drunk or both. In any case he's best ignored. > > > > > > -- > > > Cheers --- Larry Marshall > > > Quebec City, QC > > > > > You don't know me yet you judge me - Invisible?, Lost?, Drunk? Invective? I've asked several questions of the group; where have you been? YOU are just as 'invisible' to me. How dare you proclaim my comment as "bad"? Because I insulted one of your 'buddies'? Because I'm new? Because I happen to love my country? I do not need a "defense attorney' to rationalize my statement. And yea, you missed my boot camp by five years -- 1969. I saw guys with broken legs on parade, screwballs cutting their own orders for state-side duty after being 'in country' for a year+ If some of the list members want to chuckle at derisive comments directed toward the United State so be it. I do not appreciate their 'jokes'. Overall, my family has nearly 400 years invested in this country - I appreciate that if others do not. I would recommend the following: Put brain in gear before engaging mouth. OLSARGE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 03:16:41 -0600 From: "John Sering" To: Subject: Re: Retraction Message-ID: <004901c2a02c$dae151c0$82ca4cd8@default> > > > > Dave, I'm sure you're aware that there was only one offensive msg in that > > thread and it came from someone who's name we've never seen here. He's > > either lost, drunk or both. In any case he's best ignored. > > > > -- > > Cheers --- Larry Marshall > > Quebec City, QC > > > Perhaps I will ignore you, Mr Marshall. Perhaps I was the only American to take a stand & register offense to your fellow cannucks' statement. Perhaps other Americans have been 'cowed' by internnational opinion and are afraid of public ridicule. As I found this list, lo I am not lost. If I tipple a glass in remembrance of young men lost from my generation and those that preceded us will you still belittle me as a lost drunk???? I have conditionally apologized to Mr. Fletcher - perhaps his statements were in jest - yet as it was an ongoing statement of increasing depredation ( do you know the definitions of 'jest' Mr. Marshall?) I will not apologize for my loyalty nor love of the United States of America. I and many others have taken an oath to defend our country against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Although I am no longer on active duty I still am bound by that oath. I would rather put this "incident" behind us and concentrate on the objectives of this group. Or am I to be subjected to furtgher ridicule?? Respectfully, John Sering US Army (retd) ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4832 **********************