WWI Digest 4831 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: toads on the knoll by Ken Schmitt 2) Re: Frigginbird by Ken Schmitt 3) =?GB2312?B?oe8goe+/tMirx/K159OwtefK08vNd2luZG93c9PFu6+088qm?= by =?GB2312?B?yKvH8tOwytPK1b+0yO28/g==?= 4) Great Waldo Pepper by Crawford Neil 5) Re: Parrot name by "Lee M." 6) Neat site by tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) 7) Re: Flying Machine Press - DH Aircraft Vol 1 by "Lance Krieg" 8) RE: Neat site by Crawford Neil 9) RE: How the site got started was New look for the site by "Harris, Mack" 10) Re: Parrot name by Ray 11) Re: Great Waldo Pepper by "Lee M." 12) Attention Steven Perry by tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) 13) Re: Great Waldo Pepper by bill anthony 14) Re: Great Waldo Pepper by "peter leonard" 15) =?GB2312?B?0/LD+9eisuGjrL/VvOTJ6sfr?= by "www.asp021.com" 16) Re: Frigginbird by "David C. Fletcher" 17) Re: Great Waldo Pepper by "David C. Fletcher" 18) Re: Frigginbird by Allan Wright 19) Re: Great Waldo Pepper by "Lee M." 20) Re: Great Waldo Pepper by "Brent Theobald" 21) Re: Attention Steven Perry by "Steven Perry" 22) Re: Parrot name by bill anthony 23) re: Neat site by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 24) RE: Neat site by "Shane Weier" 25) WWI German Sign by "Steven Perry" 26) RPM Renault in 1/72 by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 27) Re: An Airman Remembers / Schroder by "Hans Trauner" 28) Re: Parrot name by "Lee M." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 08:27:14 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Re: toads on the knoll Message-ID: Master Weier conjures- > and it sure isn't worth wasting a perfectly > good dead cane toad in a box at the foot of anyones bed ;-) Unless it's been thoroughly licked first. Ken, who can't resist a well-vinted 'Toad. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 08:48:10 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Re: Frigginbird Message-ID: Shane! > An Eagle (none of yer poncie little bald > eagles, a big'un like a Wedgetail) flying CAP Don't be insultin' our natty boid...have seen one come out of nowhere from a grove of pines turn a seagull into and pull a neat Immelmann heading straight back in the trees; shut all the ravens 100 yds down-lake up for the next 10 minutes (no mean feat). Have also seen this predator cause a huge flock of Canadian Geese to scatter and the object of his interest to *swim underwater* for at least 25 yds(!), come up, do it again. No avail. The eagle rode him down like the dog he was. . . That said, saw 3 gulls spank sunset out of one poncie-fish-batur and chase him off my freshly cleaned dinner on a shoreline. Hey, anything I can do to help the locals. Go figure - a volatile bunch of tall-tree posers. let's see...looked just like a ... Gotha! That's it. Used as reference for a paint scheme. Yeh, that's what it was, then. PC-12 & white. Ecktuelly, it's our Golden Eagle that is reputed to carry off sheep and unsuspecting bus-stop persons, the Baldie just sits there looking patriotic. Ken, adding Flying Cane Toads to 'life-list'. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:23:28 +0800 From: =?GB2312?B?yKvH8tOwytPK1b+0yO28/g==?= To: wwi@mustang.sr.unh.edu Subject: =?GB2312?B?oe8goe+/tMirx/K159OwtefK08vNd2luZG93c9PFu6+088qm?= Message-ID: <200212091525.KAA82845@mustang.sr.unh.edu> ¡ï ¡ïÈ«Çò¸ßÇåÎú¶È500¶à¸öµçÓ°µçÊÓƵµÀ½ÚÄ¿ ( ¹ºÂòÓû§ÁíËÍ×¢²á°æwindowsÓÅ»¯´óʦºÍÍøÂç¼ÓËÙÈí¼þÒ»Ì×) Ô­¼Û188Ô²ÏÖÔÚ´ÙÏú¼Û58Ô²¹ºÂòÈ«ÇòÓ°ÊÓÊÕ¿´Èí¼þ£¨Ïñ²¥·ÅÆ÷µÄÈí¼þ£¬³ýÁ˾ßÓÐÒ»°ã²¥·ÅÆ÷µÄ¹¦ÄÜÍ⣬ÄÜ ÊÕ¿´µçÊÓÊÇÆäÖ÷ÒªµÄ¹¦ÄÜ£¡Ö§³Ö»»·ô£¬Ö§³Ö×Ô¶¯¸üа汾¹¦ÄÜ£¡£©£¬¼´¿ÉÒ»ÀÀÌìÏ£¡ Ëæ×ÅÍøÂçµÄ·¢Õ¹£¬Ê¹µÃÍøÉÏ¿´µçÊÓ³ÉΪһÖÖ¿ÉÄÜ£¬±¾Èí¼þÕýÊÇÈÃÄãÄܹ»ÔÚÍøÉÏ×ÔÓɵÄÏíÊÜ¿´µçÊÓµÄÀÖȤ£¡Ïà¶Ô ÓÚÆÕͨµÄµçÊÓ£¬ÍøÂçµçÊÓÓÐÆä²»¿ÉÒÔÌæ´úµÄÓŵ㣺¿ÉÒÔÐÀÉ͵½È«Çò¸÷µØÇøµÄµçÊÓ½ÚÄ¿£¬±¾Èí¼þÄÚÖÃÁËÎå°Ù¶à¸ö µçÊǪ́£¬Ê¹Äú¿ÉÒÔÁìÂÔµ½ËûÏçÒì¹úµÄ´¿Õý·çζ! ²¢ÓÐ×îеçÓ°µçÊӾ缰¾«²Ê×ãÇòÀ¶ÇòµÈÌåÓý±ÈÈüµÄµã²¥.ÊÇÄúÓéÀÖ²¢ÇÒÊÇѧϰÔÁÓį̈ÓïÓ¢ÓïÈÕÓï·¨ÓïµÈ¸÷¹úÍâ ÓïµÄ×î¼Ñ·½Ê½! ¡ñÈ«ÇòÎå°Ù¶à¸öµçÊǪ́£¬ÈÎÄú¾¡Çéµã²¥£º ¡ñÈ«ÇòÉÏǧ²¿µçÓ°,ÈÃÄúÏȶÃΪ¿ì£¬²¢Ëæʱ¸üУ» ¡ñ¹ÉÊÐÓÐÉýÓнµ£¬Äú¿ÉËæ»úÓ¦±ä£» ¡ñսʶ¯Ì¬±ä»¯£¬µÚÒ»ÏÖ³¡Ö±»÷£» ¡ñ¾«²Ê×ãÇòÈüÊ£¬¸çÃÇÆñÈÝ´í¹ý¡£ ¡¡ ÊôÓÚADSL½ÓÈ뷽ʽµÄ,ÎÒÃÇ¿ÉÒÔΪÄúÃâ·Ñ°²×°ADSL¼ÓËÙÈí¼þ£¬ÁîÄúµÄADSLÍøËÙÔÚ Ô­À´µÄ»ù´¡ÉÏÔö¼ÓÒ»±¶×óÓÒ¡£ Ò»´Î×¢²á¼´¿ÉÖÕÉúÃâ·Ñ¹Û¿´£¬Ã»ÓÐÈκαðµÄ¸½¼Ó·ÑÓã¡ ÍøÊÓͨÈí¼þÈ«¹úͳһÊÛ¼Û£º58Ô² Óʾֻã¿î£º¸£½¨ÓÀ¶¨¿ÆίʵÑéÕ¾ ¸¶Ìì´Í 364100 ÒøÐлã¿îÈ«¹úÖ»Ðè2Сʱµ½ÕÊ ½¨ÉèÒøÐлã¿î£º¸£½¨½¨ÐÐÓÀ¶¨Ö§ÐÐ »§Ãû£¨¸¶Ìì´Í £©¿¨ºÅ4367 4218 8000 1290 068 ¹¤ÉÌÒøÐлã¿î£º¸£½¨¹¤ÐÐÓÀ¶¨Ö§ÐÐ »§Ãû£¨¸¶Ìì´Í£© ÕʺÅ1410 1201 0110 0795 197 £¨×¢Ò⣺ΪÁËʹÄã¿ìËٵõ½·þÎñ£¬ÇëÔÚÀ´¿îºó¼ÓÉÏβÊý¼¸Ã«Ç®£¬Èç58¡£2£¬·½±ãÎÒÃDzéÊÕ£¡»ãÍê¿îºó¼°Ê±¸øÎÒ ÃÇ´ò¸öµç»°£¡È·±£×î¿ìµÄËٶȸøÄã·¢»õ£¡ÎÒÃÇÈ·ÈÏÊÇÄãµÄÀ´¿îºó£¬½«°ÑÏÂÔصØÖ·µ±Ìì·¢µ½ÄãÖ¸¶¨µÄÓÊÏ䣡£© ÁªÏµµç»°£º05975833857 013950887100 ÇëÎðÖ±½Ó»Ø¸´Óʼþ£¡ÓʼþÇë·¢£º13950887100@vip.163.com 13950887100@163.net ÁªÏµQQ:84486538 Ç뾡Á¿Óõ绰×Éѯ µçÊǪ́Áбí Öйú´ó½ ÖйúÏã¸Û ÑÇÖÞ Öйų́Íå ÃÀÖÞ ¹ú¼ÊÎÀÐǵçÊÓ ÖÐÑę̈ ÎÀÊǪ́ µØ·½Ì¨ ÌåÓý̨ µçӰ̨ ÓÐÏß̨ ½ÌÓý̨ ÒôÀǪ̈ ²Æ¾­ÆµµÀ Ï·¾çƵµÀ ÐÂÎĄ̊ ×ÛºĮ̈ Ó°ÊǪ́ Èç¹û´ËПøÄú´øÀ´²»±ã£¬ÎÒÃÇÉî±íǸÒâ!Sorry for the inconvenience we caused! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 16:40:30 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Great Waldo Pepper Message-ID: Got a DVD on the new computer, so I bought a film to try it out. I found the "The great Waldo Pepper" in our local supermarket for 79SEK (about 7USD). Me and wife sat in front of said computer and watched it in three half hour sessions, it worked fine, she thought it was pretty bad, I thought it was great. First part was mostly Jennies, but what I'd completely forgotten was the last 15 minutes was a glorious dogfight between a Camel and a Fokker Dr1, big WOW! Ernst Kessler (Udet) flew the Dr1 , he was sympathetically charatcterised in this film. Anyone know where the planes came from in this film? And what was the white monoplane that crashed trying an outside loop? Great film, check out the cheap film offers, a friend got Rocketeer for the same price. /Neil C. (cold up here) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 09:43:34 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: Subject: Re: Parrot name Message-ID: <009001c29f99$bbffa060$a14d39cc@mesystem> I notice a lot of comments about a parrot but I also noticed that no one seemed to mention one of the most important attributes of those creatures. Not all of them do it, but any of them could. They bite. It is an intensley strong and vicious thing and can take a finger off a child as fast as you can blink. (Remember they can crack a Brazilnut with that thing.) The average parrot can live an extremely long time and may develope a truly nasty attitude about almost anything that irritates it. In addition to biting they sink those claws into their victim. Makes a mess to say the least. So I would suggest a bit of caution in the daily handling of the bird. Treat it nice or it can turn on you and make a really nasty day happen. I was around in the 1930s', about age 6, when one of them attacked a local hairdresser. If anyone wants to hear the gory details contact me directly. I do not want to put it out for general purposes. It was truly bad. Lee M. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Schmitt" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 11:30 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Parrot name > sp! > > > SP says: > > > >> Oits (sic), meet Archie. > > > > I take it "Archie" will be the name of the new cat. > > > > Shane > > a suggestion: > the *tennis racquet* shall be named "Archie". > > something to consider... > > Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 09:34:00 -0600 (CST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Neat site Message-ID: <200212091534.gB9FY0G75153@king1.kingsnake.com> I remember looking at this in the past, but wanted to point it out again: http://www.aeroconservancy.com/ It's neat that the Farre (is that the right name?) painting on the front page shows an *aluminum* Strutter. ;-) Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 09:51:07 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Flying Machine Press - DH Aircraft Vol 1 Message-ID: Shane wonders about: "...this volume *and* the Albatros Datafile Special on the DH-4 ?" Karen has looked into this closer than I, but I did have both of these books out recently. I don't recall seeing any superior photos in the FMP book, which is my criteria for "good book", and would say that the the Datafile would far better meet the modeler's needs for a British-built machine. On the other hand, Karen and I have been bickering about the Stair plans in the Datafile, which I took to have some serious shortcomings insofar as the wing placement is concerned. In consequence, I thought that other plans might be more accurate, and IIRC actually prefered the FMP plans, though the Mick Davis plans in the DH4-DH9 File were the best IMHO. I can refresh my memory if more information is sought... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 16:54:39 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Neat site Message-ID: Yes by gum! I've not been completely convinced up to now, but a Farré painting is as good evidence as you can get. /Neil C. > It's neat that the Farre (is that the right name?) painting > on the front > page shows an *aluminum* Strutter. ;-) > > > Matt > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 09:54:59 -0600 From: "Harris, Mack" To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: How the site got started was New look for the site Message-ID: Allan writes: (snip) I think it was one of the first articles I wrote for the site and hasn't been re-done since. Allan, would you mind telling how the site and list got started, just curious this morning and wanting a good tale told by a roaring fire. Wait before you start let me go put on my pajamas and get some hot coco. Mack (who didn't get much sleep last night and doesn't feel quite connected this morning) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 07:49:47 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Parrot name Message-ID: <200212090749.47102.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> My sister has one of these wretched birds. Everything Lee says is true. Of course Steve you could train it to go after BVB if she goes near your models again! On Monday 09 December 2002 07:44, you wrote: > I notice a lot of comments about a parrot but I also noticed that no one > seemed to mention one of the most important attributes of those creatures. > Not all of them do it, but any of them could. > > They bite. It is an intensley strong and vicious thing and can take a > finger off a child as fast as you can blink. (Remember they can crack a > Brazilnut with that thing.) The average parrot can live an extremely long > time and may develope a truly nasty attitude about almost anything that > irritates it. > > In addition to biting they sink those claws into their victim. Makes a > mess to say the least. > > So I would suggest a bit of caution in the daily handling of the bird. > Treat it nice or it can turn on you and make a really nasty day happen. > > I was around in the 1930s', about age 6, when one of them attacked a local > hairdresser. If anyone wants to hear the gory details contact me directly. > I do not want to put it out for general purposes. It was truly bad. > > Lee M. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 10:23:54 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: Subject: Re: Great Waldo Pepper Message-ID: <00a801c29f9f$5eab5b60$a14d39cc@mesystem> When you watch "The Great Waldo Pepper" you will also see my friend Roger Freeman and his TM S4C scout. He plays the part of Waldo's, slightly pudgy, Mechanic, and of course, he flies his TM in the movie as well. I believe he also flies some of the scenes with the Jenny. Crawford is right ....It is a great movie about days that will never happen again. Sorry about the cold but it do happen in Sweden. Lee M. New Braunfels, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crawford Neil" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:42 AM Subject: [WWI] Great Waldo Pepper > Got a DVD on the new computer, so I bought a film to try > it out. I found the "The great Waldo Pepper" in our local > supermarket for 79SEK (about 7USD). Me and wife sat in front > of said computer and watched it in three half hour sessions, > it worked fine, she thought it was pretty bad, I thought it > was great. First part was mostly Jennies, but what I'd completely > forgotten was the last 15 minutes was a glorious dogfight > between a Camel and a Fokker Dr1, big WOW! Ernst Kessler (Udet) > flew the Dr1 , he was sympathetically characterised in this film. > Anyone know where the planes came from in this film? And > what was the white monoplane that crashed trying an outside loop? > Great film, check out the cheap film offers, a friend got > Rocketeer for the same price. > /Neil C. (cold up here) > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 10:11:01 -0600 (CST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Attention Steven Perry Message-ID: <200212091611.gB9GB0G77576@king1.kingsnake.com> Sorry for this list, although it's not entirely off topic. sp, since I don't have your email addy here at work, I was wondering if you would like to send me your Revell MoS Type N correction article and I'll add it to the IM section. What do you think? Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 09:11:21 -0800 (PST) From: bill anthony To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Great Waldo Pepper Message-ID: <20021209171121.37204.qmail@web40910.mail.yahoo.com> Niel, I agree the Great Waldo Pepper is a great movie. The best part for me is obviously the last 15 minutes. I watched a few bits and pieces of it here and there and was'nt crazy about it, until I finally sat down and watched the whole movie. Then I got to see the Camel and Dr1 fight. Interestingly when I did some research on the web about the movie, the reviews tried to say the the German charecter was modelled after Richtofen. Obviously for us who know our german aces, there is no way the German charecter was other then Ernst Udet!! Has anyone seen the "Blue Max" on DVD for a good price anywhere?? Bill A. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 12:32:11 -0500 From: "peter leonard" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Great Waldo Pepper Message-ID: <20021209173211.64144.qmail@mail.com> One of my favourites too. It bombed at the box office but it didn't deserve to. It's that rare thing, a flying movie with a good story, underplayed characterisations and a pleasing attempt at getting the aeroplanes right. With aeroplanes such as these available for film work what on earth possessed people to pass off a Stearman as a Jenny in the opening sequence of Pearl Harbor? >.. what was the white monoplane that crashed trying an outside loop? Neil C. (cold up here)< A much modified De Havilland Chipmunk. Our very own Ernest did a splendid model of Kessler's DrI donkey's yonks ago and I noticed in a recent SMI that Stephen Lawson has done likewise cheers Peter L -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup One click access to the Top Search Engines http://www.exactsearchbar.com/mailcom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 01:45:47 +0800 From: "www.asp021.com" To: wwi@mustang.sr.unh.edu Subject: =?GB2312?B?0/LD+9eisuGjrL/VvOTJ6sfr?= Message-ID: <200212091745.MAA30930@mustang.sr.unh.edu> http://www.asp021.com/login-eje.htm "ÏÈ·þÎñ£¬ºóÊÕ·Ñ£¡"·þÎñÄÚÈÝ°üÀ¨: ¡¡1¸ö ¹ú¼ÊÓ¢ÎÄÓòÃû (¼ÛÖµ:100Ôª/Äê) ¡¡200M¶¯Ì¬ÐéÄâÖ÷»ú¿Õ¼ä (¼ÛÖµ:350Ôª/Äê) ¡¡1¸ö 50M ÆóÒµÓÊ¾Ö (¼ÛÖµ:150Ôª/Äê) ÏÖÔÚͬʱÉêÇ룬ֻÐ裺350Ôª/Äê >>> http://www.asp021.com/login-eje.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 10:29:08 -0800 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Frigginbird Message-ID: <3DF4E0F4.6030708@mars.ark.com> Ken Schmitt wrote: "...a huge flock of Canadian Geese to scatter..." I'm not an ornithologist, but they are Canada Geese, not Canadian geese unless they live here! "the Baldie just sits there looking patriotic." There are scores of them around here, and they don't look patriotic, they lust sit there on the treetops looking for dead salmon to wash up on the shore. Why did you pick a carrion-eating scavenger for your national bird? ;-) Now to think of some OT reference before I get WWIII started... Dave Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 10:32:19 -0800 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Great Waldo Pepper Message-ID: <3DF4E1B3.9070608@mars.ark.com> peter leonard wrote: "...what on earth possessed people to pass off a Stearman as a Jenny in the opening sequence of Pearl Harbor?" The actual light aircraft airborne over Pearl Harbor that morning was an [ot alert!] Aeronca Chief, not a biplane at all. Dave Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:38:37 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Frigginbird Message-ID: <200212091838.NAA85160@mustang.sr.unh.edu> > There are scores of them around here, and they don't look patriotic, > they lust sit there on the treetops looking for dead salmon to wash up > on the shore. Why did you pick a carrion-eating scavenger for your > national bird? ;-) Because our second choice was the Turkey! =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 12:51:51 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: Subject: Re: Great Waldo Pepper Message-ID: <011001c29fb4$09a604c0$a14d39cc@mesystem> Ain't movies wunnerfull. Their strong dedication to historical accuracy is totally remarkable and wonderous to behold. I do believe they are the same people that write our new School History books. If they don't they must make a lot of suggestions. After ending, over 83 years ago, just look at what they can do to WW I. WW II will remain a mystery forever. Lee M ----- Original Message ----- From: "David C. Fletcher" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 12:39 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Great Waldo Pepper > peter leonard wrote: > > "...what on earth possessed people to pass off a Stearman as a Jenny > > in the opening sequence of Pearl Harbor?" > > The actual light aircraft airborne over Pearl Harbor that morning was an > [ot alert!] Aeronca Chief, not a biplane at all. > > Dave Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 18:58:17 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Great Waldo Pepper Message-ID: Howdy! I think Peter meant the red airplane the boys accidently ran up the grass field in the opening sequence of the movie. Not what was flying over Pearl Harbor :-) Now, if you want to discuss the irony of Doolittle being played by that commie Alec Baldwin.... Grrr! OT CONTENT: I was fondling the new AEG from Copper State last night. It looks to be a much easier kit than some more recent kits. The usual really nice CSM kit. Later! Brent >From: "David C. Fletcher" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: Great Waldo Pepper >Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:39:07 -0500 (EST) > >peter leonard wrote: > >"...what on earth possessed people to pass off a Stearman as a Jenny > >in the opening sequence of Pearl Harbor?" > >The actual light aircraft airborne over Pearl Harbor that morning was an >[ot alert!] Aeronca Chief, not a biplane at all. > >Dave Fletcher _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 16:05:03 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Attention Steven Perry Message-ID: <004d01c29fc6$a58fc940$20244918@tampabay.rr.com> NP. On the way. sp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 11:27 AM Subject: [WWI] Attention Steven Perry > > Sorry for this list, although it's not entirely off topic. > > sp, since I don't have your email addy here at work, I was wondering if > you would like to send me your Revell MoS Type N correction article and > I'll add it to the IM section. What do you think? > > > Matt > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:18:45 -0800 (PST) From: bill anthony To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Parrot name Message-ID: <20021209211845.57706.qmail@web40912.mail.yahoo.com> Lee, I am deffinently not a parrot expert so take what I say as with a grain of salt. I remember watching a show a few months ago about a woman who works with unwanted parrots. The gist of it was that most people should not have parrots as a pet!! The problem is that parrots being very smart and intelligent easily become very bored and fustrated as they are left in a cage and get less and less attention each year. That is bascially why they start biting because they very unhappy and fustrated pets. Parrots really want a lot of attention and need constant interaction. Unfortunately as with most things people continually get them and then get rid of them down the line. A large portion of them are usualy gotten rid of. Please remember, I have never had a parrot and this is just the ideas that a show I watched stated. Bill A. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 23:02:43 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Neat site Message-ID: <002701c29fce$b32dd580$0200a8c0@grzesiek> > It's neat that the Farre (is that the right name?) painting on the front > page shows an *aluminum* Strutter. ;-) What "aluminium"??? It's blue! Aluminium is the engine cover, much different in colour than the rest of the plane! I'm only joking, but... Think about it! G. --------------r-e-k-l-a-m-a----------------- Masz dosc placenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - zaloz konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 08:10:47 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Neat site Message-ID: Neil >Yes by gum! I've not been completely convinced up to now, >but a Farré painting is as good evidence as you can get. It would be, but that doesn't look like a Farre painting to me (and I can't find any indication on the site that it is) The painting is affixed to the cover of some chaps photo album - seems a strange place to fin an original Farre Shane _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 17:52:44 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: WWI German Sign Message-ID: <00a001c29fd5$b1a00560$20244918@tampabay.rr.com> Today at work a guy lent me a sign to scan. It is supposed to have been taken from a German Observation Post. It looks to have been made from a piece of pasteboard cigar box or similar. FWIW sp http://home.tampabay.rr.com/sperry03/SIGN_1.jpg http://home.tampabay.rr.com/sperry03/SIGN_2.jpg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:06:42 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: RPM Renault in 1/72 Message-ID: <006301c29fd7$a3ce8180$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Yesss! I have one of these. Berliet turret with a Puteaux cannon. Kit is available in up to 7 variants (4 WWI French, Japanese, postwar French/German and Soviet) Kit is very complex, 3 sprues of the grey plastic and two hard gum tracks. Every smallest wheel is moulded separately. Plastic isn't perfect, I think it is a bit fragile and the surfaces, although higly detailed, aren't as smooth as in the Eduard kits. Generally kit looks very similar to the Roden kits - very highly detailed and probably very accurate (I have no references except some photos), but the engineering isn't perfect, and some smaller parts can be difficult to detach from the sprues. My kit contains only one turret variant (Berliet, round one), but there are both cannon and three various machine guns (Hotchkiss and some other) included. Lots of decals (I think each variant has different sheet!), including schemes: many French (OT and ot), some Polish, German (WWII), Finnish, Spanish, and OT US (at least 15 schemes, only for Berliet/cannon variant!). At first look, it's a great kit, but as I wrote, it could be a bit tricky to complete due to the great number of small parts and some kit design ideas - for me it is similar to the Roden Albatros fuselage - so many parts to glue together, to get fairly simple object. This kit isn't similar to the RPM Ford T - it looks completely different! Different plastic, different detail and accuracy level (much higher!!!), different kit design. Vickers gun in the Ford T kit was very poor and simplified, Hotchkiss in the Renault is perfect, but I'm afraid that I break the barrel if I try to detach it from the sprue. So - it's like a Roden, not Eduard, and not an Airfix. I'm too tired and sleepy now to write more, but if anybody has any question, I'll be glad to answer it on the list tomorrow. Cheers! Grzegorz --------------r-e-k-l-a-m-a----------------- Masz dosc placenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - zaloz konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:44:20 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: An Airman Remembers / Schroder Message-ID: <000701c29fdc$e5aae940$dbac72d4@FRITZweb> I clear that, I'll get in contact with him. Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "weise" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: [WWI] An Airman Remembers / Schroder > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C29A02.385E2020 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Dear Sirs, > > Im looking for the book about WoldWarFirst > "An Airman Remebers" by Hans Schroder. > The german Title was "Erlebter Krieg". > I`m surching the english Book. > > May be if you can send me the book ???? > Pleas excuse my for my bad english. Thank you. > > Bernd Weise / Galerie Weise > Hartmannstr. 7 > G - 09111 Chemnitz > www.galerie-weise.de > > Phone:0049 +371 694444 > > ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C29A02.385E2020 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > >
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> > ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C29A02.385E2020-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 18:33:16 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: Subject: Re: Parrot name Message-ID: <012501c29fe3$bb88ea20$a14d39cc@mesystem> Bill I am no expert on the birds. But I have been around a few Parrots. I have know 5 owners in the states and that started about 1931. Two of my family owned Cockatoos in recent times and several others had parakeets. Any of them can turn nasty but I have never seen a mean parakeet. They can be sneaky and fly up to your shoulder and grab your ear. I suspect they do it to get attention and they usually do... Right away... I would not allow a parrot or any other bird around babies. it is just to dangerous since they tend to "pick" at bright and shny things...Like eyes... I was told many years ago that some Parrots can live to be about 300 years of age. I have no idea how to tell how old any of them might be. Bu I am sure that you would agree that even 30 years of boredom could be enough to put almost anything over the edge. I am not exactly a stranger to parrots since I have known 5 or 6 owners over many years.. I lived in SEA where there were a number of parrots as pets but they were not held in small cages Many were roofed over with sheet metal so the rain did not become a problem or a bother, and,they had a space perhaps 15 X 15 (sometimes larger) for the birds to live in. One thing I believe is true as regards most animals and I suspect it should or could apply to birds as well. The owner should be smarter than the pet. Or confusion set in as to who is the boss. Lee M. ----- Original Message ----- From: "bill anthony" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:20 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Parrot name > Lee, > I am deffinently not a parrot expert so take what I > say as with a grain of salt. I remember watching a > show a few months ago about a woman who works with > unwanted parrots. The gist of it was that most people > should not have parrots as a pet!! > The problem is that parrots being very smart and > intelligent easily become very bored and fustrated as > they are left in a cage and get less and less > attention each year. That is bascially why they start > biting because they very unhappy and fustrated pets. > Parrots really want a lot of attention and need > constant interaction. Unfortunately as with most > things people continually get them and then get rid of > them down the line. A large portion of them are > usualy gotten rid of. > Please remember, I have never had a parrot and this > is just the ideas that a show I watched stated. > Bill A. > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4831 **********************