WWI Digest 4829

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Thanks for the advice Re: An old neophyte in search of help
	by "John Sering" <olsarge@bellsouth.net>
  2) Parrot name
	by "NEIL CRAWFORD" <neil.crawford@swipnet.se>
  3) Re: Parrot name
	by "Steven Perry" <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
  4) Re: Parrot name
	by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_H=E9ctor_AFFLITTO_ECHAG=DCE?= <ww1_bleriot@fibertel.com.ar>
  5) Re: Parrot name
	by Dave Fleming <xtv16@dial.pipex.com>
  6) Re: Parrot name
	by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com
  7) Re: Parrot name
	by "Steven Perry" <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
  8) Re: Parrot name
	by pfalzdvii@att.net
  9) Re: Parrot name
	by "Shane Weier" <bristolf2b@hotmail.com>
 10) Re: Parrot name
	by "Steven Perry" <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
 11) Re: Parrot name
	by "John Sering" <olsarge@bellsouth.net>
 12) Re: Parrot name
	by "Shane Weier" <bristolf2b@hotmail.com>
 13) Re: Parrot name
	by "Steven Perry" <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
 14) Re: An old neophyte in search of help
	by Volker Haeusler <haeusler@tm.net.my>
 15) Re: Parrot name
	by "Steven Perry" <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
 16) Re: Parrot name
	by Ray <Ray_Boorman@telus.net>
 17) IPMS Sao Paulo contest, 2nd and last day
	by "Marcio Antonio Campos" <marcio.castro.campos@ig.com.br>
 18) Re: IPMS Sao Paulo contest, 2nd and last day
	by "Steven Perry" <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
 19) Re: IPMS Sao Paulo contest, 2nd and last day
	by Tom Plesha <plesha3@yahoo.com>
 20) New models at NKR...
	by Volker Haeusler <haeusler@tm.net.my>
 21) Re: New models at NKR...
	by "Shane Weier" <bristolf2b@hotmail.com>
 22) Re: New models at NKR...
	by "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
 23) TV alert
	by Carlos Valdes <carlos.valdes@conted.gatech.edu>
 24) Re: An old neophyte in search of help
	by "John Sering" <olsarge@bellsouth.net>
 25) Re: New models at NKR...
	by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" <rossmoor@bigpond.net.au>
 26) Re: TV alert
	by "John Sering" <olsarge@bellsouth.net>
 27) Re: New models at NKR...
	by pfalzdvii@att.net
 28) Re: New models at NKR...
	by pfalzdvii@att.net
 29) Re: TV alert
	by pfalzdvii@att.net
 30) Re: New models at NKR...
	by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" <rossmoor@bigpond.net.au>

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Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 13:16:46 -0600
From: "John Sering" <olsarge@bellsouth.net>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Thanks for the advice Re: An old neophyte in search of help
Message-ID: <000701c29eee$5b274320$3168d6d1@default>

Merrill & Cyg,

Thanks for the input,

I found a reference on the 'net' that the BMW was installed in D VII F
models.

Maybe it's the angle of the photos but the engine on NASM's D VII seems
peculiar - that's why I asked the question.

A Merdedes it will be; but think I'll buy the 'Beamer' too . . . one can
never have too many spare parts lying about. . .

Thanks,

Olsarge

----- Original Message -----
From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" <janah@att.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 11:39 AM
Subject: [WWI] Re: An old neophyte in search of help


> If you decide it was a BMW, Barry makes a beautiful resin aftermarket
Engine
> in 1/48.
>
> Cyg.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <pfalzdvii@att.net>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 11:13 PM
> Subject: [WWI] Re: An old neophyte in search of help
>
>
> > DVII (OAW) 4635/18, "U10" is the DVII in the Smithsonian NASM. HvB-M
flew
> for
> > Jasta 65, but as to the engine?? my guess (someone's got to know) I
would
> wager
> > on a Mercedes, Heinz was a relative newcomer, and seniority generally
> decided
> > who got the better powerplant, but...
> > HTH
> > Merrill
> > > Hello List,
> > >
> <snip>
> > > Does anyone know if Heinz von Beaulieu-Marconnay's Fokker was powered
by
> a
> > > Mercedes or BMW engine?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Olsarge
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>


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Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 23:01:02 +0100
From: "NEIL CRAWFORD" <neil.crawford@swipnet.se>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Parrot name
Message-ID: <000501c29f05$4ceba640$811797d4@ibmbd1lujuydh0>

Dave Fletcher suggested Mannock:

The first name that struck me was Mannock too, don't know why but it
seems like a good name for a parrot.
/Neil C.


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Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 17:23:14 -0500
From: "Steven Perry" <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Parrot name
Message-ID: <001901c29f08$667518a0$20244918@tampabay.rr.com>



> Dave Fletcher suggested Mannock:
>
> The first name that struck me was Mannock too, don't know why but it
> seems like a good name for a parrot.
> /Neil C.
>
I liked that too, but BvB has "changed her mind" and decided the poor Quaker
Parrot will be called Otis. <Groan>

I'm retreating to defensive positions around the no clipped wings issue.
Pilots will always stick together against ground worms ;-)
sp

BTW his beak is yellow and the rest green with a gray chest & neck, but BvB
couldn't stand "Werner"


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Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 19:25:08 -0300
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_H=E9ctor_AFFLITTO_ECHAG=DCE?= <ww1_bleriot@fibertel.com.ar>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Parrot name
Message-ID: <002e01c29f08$ab83ede0$51a7e818@fibertel.com.ar>

Parrot?
No for PAPAGAYO  an big  Sudamerica parrot
What do you think?
Marcio Antonio!!!

Martin;


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "NEIL CRAWFORD" <neil.crawford@swipnet.se>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 7:02 PM
Subject: [WWI] Parrot name


> Dave Fletcher suggested Mannock:
> 
> The first name that struck me was Mannock too, don't know why but it
> seems like a good name for a parrot.
> /Neil C.
> 

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Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 23:07:26 +0000
From: Dave Fleming <xtv16@dial.pipex.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Parrot name
Message-ID: <1039388846.3df3d0ae727e2@netmail.pipex.net>


Quoting Steven Perry <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>:

> I liked that too, but BvB has "changed her mind" and decided the poor
> Quaker
> Parrot will be called Otis. <Groan>
> 
> I'm retreating to defensive positions around the no clipped wings issue.
> Pilots will always stick together against ground worms ;-)

Wait til the first time (re)newly fledged Otis flies to the book case and eats 
half your Datafiles, or to the model shelf and merrily chucks them on the floor.

Than Turkey will be second choice for Thanksgiving......

Dave Fleming



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Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 18:13:46 EST
From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Parrot name
Message-ID: <12d.1cd57d3f.2b252c2a@aol.com>


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In a message dated 12/8/2002 6:09:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
xtv16@dial.pipex.com writes:

> Wait til the first time (re)newly fledged Otis flies to the book case and 
> eats 
> half your Datafiles, or to the model shelf and merrily chucks them on the 
> floor.
> 
> Than Turkey will be second choice for Thanksgiving......
> 

Wait till he plucks all those nice rigging lines to death or peals off every 
lose part his little beak can get at. I had a parrot who would eat the 
insulation off wires into my ceiling light fixture! Well lets just say we 
called him Buzz after that, darn thing was really goofy.
                                           Best regards,
                                                    Jon

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Lucida Sans" LANG="0"><B>In a message dated 12/8/2002 6:09:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, xtv16@dial.pipex.com writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></B>Wait til the first time (re)newly fledged Otis flies to the book case and eats <BR>
half your Datafiles, or to the model shelf and merrily chucks them on the floor.<BR>
<BR>
Than Turkey will be second choice for Thanksgiving......<BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#0000ff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Lucida Sans" LANG="0"><B><BR>
Wait till he plucks all those nice rigging lines to death or peals off every lose part his little beak can get at. I had a parrot who would eat the insulation off wires into my ceiling light fixture! Well lets just say we called him Buzz after that, darn thing was really goofy.<BR>
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Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 18:20:04 -0500
From: "Steven Perry" <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Parrot name
Message-ID: <002d01c29f10$57230080$20244918@tampabay.rr.com>

> Wait til the first time (re)newly fledged Otis flies to the book case and
eats
> half your Datafiles, or to the model shelf and merrily chucks them on the
floor.


Oits, meet Archie.
sp


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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 00:29:18 +0000
From: pfalzdvii@att.net
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Parrot name
Message-ID: <20021209002919.QFZZ13909.mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net@mtiwebc36>

LOL! BTW, they do make shotshells for most handgun calibers, or your local 
gunsmith can make you up some, does less collateral damage than the 12 ga.
Merrill 
> > Wait til the first time (re)newly fledged Otis flies to the book case and
> eats
> > half your Datafiles, or to the model shelf and merrily chucks them on the
> floor.
> 
> 
> Oits, meet Archie.
> sp
> 


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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 10:38:18 +1000
From: "Shane Weier" <bristolf2b@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Parrot name
Message-ID: <F1940U4XldONFr6fRUt000056a7@hotmail.com>

SP says:

>Oits (sic), meet Archie.

I take it "Archie" will be the name of the new cat.

Shane











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Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 19:55:13 -0500
From: "Steven Perry" <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Parrot name
Message-ID: <003401c29f1d$a1e802c0$20244918@tampabay.rr.com>


> SP says:
> 
> >Oits (sic), meet Archie.
> 
> I take it "Archie" will be the name of the new cat.
> 
> Shane

I was referring to AA fire. Flaming workboots instead of flaming onions.
sp

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Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 19:04:50 -0600
From: "John Sering" <olsarge@bellsouth.net>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Parrot name
Message-ID: <002501c29f1e$fa4a3e00$4eca4cd8@default>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Perry" <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 4:24 PM
Subject: [WWI] Re: Parrot name


> Pilots will always stick together against ground worms ;-)
> sp

Now you've done it . . . insulted us old ground-pounders & mud marines.

Wait 'til Otis makes a 'bomb' run . . .




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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 11:15:28 +1000
From: "Shane Weier" <bristolf2b@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Parrot name
Message-ID: <F1635x5YM4h1xo55dCU00020570@hotmail.com>

SP


> > SP says:
> >
> > >Oits (sic), meet Archie.
> >
> > I take it "Archie" will be the name of the new cat.
> >
>I was referring to AA fire.

Ya, I knew that, but figured that the cat could be tasked as s sort of 
furred AA

>Flaming workboots instead of flaming onions.

LOL - My workboots *smell* like they're on fire but would be banned under 
the conventions as chemical WMD

Shane



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Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 20:31:56 -0500
From: "Steven Perry" <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Parrot name
Message-ID: <003e01c29f22$c33c2b40$20244918@tampabay.rr.com>

>
> > Pilots will always stick together against ground worms ;-)
> > sp
>
> Now you've done it . . . insulted us old ground-pounders & mud marines.
>
> Wait 'til Otis makes a 'bomb' run . . .

He's already got the range on the turtle's tank and pitches peanuts at the
Lou the turtle, the senior Perry Pet at 17 yrs. The FNP better watch his
step. He tries to fly, but it's more like base jumping at this point, but
just like the old Navy Vigalante, the rear firing torpedo tube seems to work
well. He's less than a year old, so this cadet will get plenty of attention
from the DI and I have high hopes he will soon be able to operate in
controlled airspace.
sp



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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 09:34:32 +0800
From: Volker Haeusler <haeusler@tm.net.my>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: An old neophyte in search of help
Message-ID: <003701c29f23$210bfa20$0301a8c0@com1>

John,
>
> Does anyone know if Heinz von Beaulieu-Marconnay's Fokker was powered by a
> Mercedes or BMW engine?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Olsarge

According to the original report of the 95th Aero "U.10" was powered by a
"180 hp Mercedes", indicating an over compressed Daimler D III av.

Volker



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Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 20:32:53 -0500
From: "Steven Perry" <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Parrot name
Message-ID: <004401c29f22$e504d9c0$20244918@tampabay.rr.com>

> LOL - My workboots *smell* like they're on fire but would be banned under 
> the conventions as chemical WMD

And you only work in a mine. :~)
sp

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Date: 08 Dec 2002 17:28:21 -0800
From: Ray <Ray_Boorman@telus.net>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Parrot name
Message-ID: <1039397301.12772.0.camel@00-10-4b-0c-95-03.bconnected.net>

On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 14:24, Steven Perry wrote:

> I liked that too, but BvB has "changed her mind" and decided the poor Quaker
> Parrot will be called Otis. <Groan>
> 
> 
> BTW his beak is yellow and the rest green with a gray chest & neck, but BvB
> couldn't stand "Werner"
> 
Tell her that the Otis in German is Werner

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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 00:25:34 -0200
From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" <marcio.castro.campos@ig.com.br>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: IPMS Sao Paulo contest, 2nd and last day
Message-ID: <002901c29f2a$44140240$6424e2c8@computador>

Folks,

For modeling groups of Sao Paulo state, the year is over. We had contests
every month, and I could fortulately take part in at least half of them!
Making new friends, meeting the old ones, and always trying to bring people
to our side of the Force and make them stop building those Messerschwatisit
things (or at least build less of them and try a biplane once or twice).

In this last contest of the year, the "WWI and biplanes" category in 1/72
had 13 entries, 11 of them were OT: my three, Luiz Claudio's 4 (including
the Gotha), 2 more by another guy (all those reported to you yesterday), and
this morning two more arrived, a scratchbuilt Flea (already seen in IPMS
Campinas contest in August) and the Udet's SSW D.III that has been coming to
contests since last April (and sweeping all gold medals in WWI categories
since then).

So, with 11 WWI airplanes, I dare to say that this is the biggest amount of
WWI models I've even seen in a contest.

Not to mention the two WWI planes in Brazilian colors I told you about. And
this morning I had the joy of seeing a diorama with the Revell Fokker
Triplane, in Red Baron's markings, with a tent! Really cool!

Results: gold medal went to, well, the SSW D.III, it's really unbeatable -
my friend Leila got it as a gift from a modeler in Rio de Janeiro, and has
been bringing it to contests since then (her son Rodrigo is a very skilled
1/48 modeler). She promised to me that this contest was the last one
(actually, I don't mind - the SSW is such a beauty!)... second place went to
the Red Baron's Albatros D.III, amazing work to simulate wood. Third place,
well, I was surprised... Jacobs's triplane debuts and brings home a medal...

And, to make the afternoon better for the OT cause, the WWI diorama got
silver in the "diorama - beginner" category, and the scratchbuilt Curtiss
1916 got 2nd place in "Brazilian Air Force - propeller". But the best was
yet to come... despite this silver, the Curtiss was chosen *Best of Show* by
the judges! It's the first time that I see a tiny airplane getting the award
instead of big dioramas. A glorious day for us OT modelers! :-)

Time to go back to the workbench, the next contest happens in March (there
are contests in January and February, but calendar reasons will keep me away
from them), and finish at least Heldmann's Pfalz D.III.

All the best from Brazil

Marcio



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Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 21:38:08 -0500
From: "Steven Perry" <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: IPMS Sao Paulo contest, 2nd and last day
Message-ID: <006901c29f2c$028f0520$20244918@tampabay.rr.com>


Congratulations on the award Marcio!  Sounds like you are winning converts
as well. Keep up the great work.

sp


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Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 19:11:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Plesha <plesha3@yahoo.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: IPMS Sao Paulo contest, 2nd and last day
Message-ID: <20021209031148.14139.qmail@web40301.mail.yahoo.com>

Great Job!
Later
Tom
--- Marcio Antonio Campos
<marcio.castro.campos@ig.com.br> wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> For modeling groups of Sao Paulo state, the year is
> over. We had contests
> every month, and I could fortulately take part in at
> least half of them!
> Making new friends, meeting the old ones, and always
> trying to bring people
> to our side of the Force and make them stop building
> those Messerschwatisit
> things (or at least build less of them and try a
> biplane once or twice).
> 
> In this last contest of the year, the "WWI and
> biplanes" category in 1/72
> had 13 entries, 11 of them were OT: my three, Luiz
> Claudio's 4 (including
> the Gotha), 2 more by another guy (all those
> reported to you yesterday), and
> this morning two more arrived, a scratchbuilt Flea
> (already seen in IPMS
> Campinas contest in August) and the Udet's SSW D.III
> that has been coming to
> contests since last April (and sweeping all gold
> medals in WWI categories
> since then).
> 
> So, with 11 WWI airplanes, I dare to say that this
> is the biggest amount of
> WWI models I've even seen in a contest.
> 
> Not to mention the two WWI planes in Brazilian
> colors I told you about. And
> this morning I had the joy of seeing a diorama with
> the Revell Fokker
> Triplane, in Red Baron's markings, with a tent!
> Really cool!
> 
> Results: gold medal went to, well, the SSW D.III,
> it's really unbeatable -
> my friend Leila got it as a gift from a modeler in
> Rio de Janeiro, and has
> been bringing it to contests since then (her son
> Rodrigo is a very skilled
> 1/48 modeler). She promised to me that this contest
> was the last one
> (actually, I don't mind - the SSW is such a
> beauty!)... second place went to
> the Red Baron's Albatros D.III, amazing work to
> simulate wood. Third place,
> well, I was surprised... Jacobs's triplane debuts
> and brings home a medal...
> 
> And, to make the afternoon better for the OT cause,
> the WWI diorama got
> silver in the "diorama - beginner" category, and the
> scratchbuilt Curtiss
> 1916 got 2nd place in "Brazilian Air Force -
> propeller". But the best was
> yet to come... despite this silver, the Curtiss was
> chosen *Best of Show* by
> the judges! It's the first time that I see a tiny
> airplane getting the award
> instead of big dioramas. A glorious day for us OT
> modelers! :-)
> 
> Time to go back to the workbench, the next contest
> happens in March (there
> are contests in January and February, but calendar
> reasons will keep me away
> from them), and finish at least Heldmann's Pfalz
> D.III.
> 
> All the best from Brazil
> 
> Marcio
> 
> 


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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 12:13:10 -0800
From: Volker Haeusler <haeusler@tm.net.my>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: New models at NKR...
Message-ID: <000a01c29fbf$665176e0$146e160a@CCO03>

I just saw that Earl at NKR lists the Roden Albatros W 4 under his new
models section (as well as the ot Gladiator in 48 scale). Too, there are
*seven* versions of the RPM Renault FT 17 - not sure how many of these
reflect versions in use in WW I.

Volker

(who's meanwhile back from a rather extended trip to Europe)


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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 13:31:18 +1000
From: "Shane Weier" <bristolf2b@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: New models at NKR...
Message-ID: <F1096p0adRm4segpMKi000050df@hotmail.com>

Volker says:


>I just saw that Earl at NKR lists the Roden Albatros W 4 under his new
>models section

His review says that the W.4 is the D.I kit with floats. I sure hope NOT, 
since IIRC all the tail surfaces are much larger and I'm not sure but I 
*think* that the wings are larger too.

Of course, Roden might be right and Earl missed the change, or *I* might be 
talking bollocks.....

Shane





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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 03:55:53 +0000
From: "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: New models at NKR...
Message-ID: <F119vQoG9Bvo93GhAUT0001125c@hotmail.com>

>From: "Shane Weier" <bristolf2b@hotmail.com>
>His review says that the W.4 is the D.I kit with floats. I sure hope >NOT, 
>since IIRC all the tail surfaces are much larger and I'm not sure >but I 
>*think* that the wings are larger too.

I also noticed 200 parts for the FT-17 tanks.  That is a considerable number 
for a fairly small model!!  Perhaps there's some redundancy for different 
versions but still.

Michael

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Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 23:12:51 -0500
From: Carlos Valdes <carlos.valdes@conted.gatech.edu>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: TV alert
Message-ID: <3DF41843.3B3FE40@conted.gatech.edu>

http://dsc.discovery.com/schedule/episode.jsp?episode=5&cpi=23689

	According to the promo, thanks to the use of the latest technology that
infamous question can finally be answered. I'll be watching.
								Carlos

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Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 22:13:38 -0600
From: "John Sering" <olsarge@bellsouth.net>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: An old neophyte in search of help
Message-ID: <001b01c29f39$5a5ea6e0$4eca4cd8@default>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Volker Haeusler" <haeusler@tm.net.my>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 7:34 PM
Subject: [WWI] Re: An old neophyte in search of help


> John,
> >
> > Does anyone know if Heinz von Beaulieu-Marconnay's Fokker was powered by
a
> > Mercedes or BMW engine?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Olsarge
>
> According to the original report of the 95th Aero "U.10" was powered by a
> "180 hp Mercedes", indicating an over compressed Daimler D III av.
>
> Volker
>
>
>

Merrill, Cyg & Volker,

I downloaded both photos of the NASM Fokker and zoomed in on the nose & saw
valve train for a six cylinder engine; so it must be the Mercedes III.

Interestingly another website,
http://www.aviation-history.com/fokker/d7.html , mentions the Mercedes & BMW
engines were shipped indiscriminately to all three factories. The site also
mentioned the BMW was a 12 cylinder  185hp 'vee' engine(???).  Seems this
would have played h*ll with the engine frame assemblies or the engine mounts
were amazingly similar!

Again, thanks to you all for the input.

Olsarge




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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 15:17:25 +1100
From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" <rossmoor@bigpond.net.au>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: New models at NKR...
Message-ID: <002901c29f39$e1015b70$08482dcb@future>

Might be that the tracks are individual links. This would account for
the high number of parts. 


Ross Moorhouse
Matrix Games Director of Game Development.
www.matrixgames.com

-----Original Message-----
From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of
Michael Kendix
Sent: Monday, 9 December 2002 2:58 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: [WWI] Re: New models at NKR...

>From: "Shane Weier" <bristolf2b@hotmail.com>
>His review says that the W.4 is the D.I kit with floats. I sure hope
>NOT, 
>since IIRC all the tail surfaces are much larger and I'm not sure >but
I 
>*think* that the wings are larger too.

I also noticed 200 parts for the FT-17 tanks.  That is a considerable
number 
for a fairly small model!!  Perhaps there's some redundancy for
different 
versions but still.

Michael

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Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 22:23:05 -0600
From: "John Sering" <olsarge@bellsouth.net>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: TV alert
Message-ID: <001101c29f3a$ae17a560$4eca4cd8@default>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carlos Valdes" <carlos.valdes@conted.gatech.edu>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 10:14 PM
Subject: [WWI] TV alert


> http://dsc.discovery.com/schedule/episode.jsp?episode=5&cpi=23689
> 
> According to the promo, thanks to the use of the latest technology that
> infamous question can finally be answered. I'll be watching.
> Carlos
> 

Ah, the Golden BB. . .

Olsarge


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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 04:23:25 +0000
From: pfalzdvii@att.net
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: New models at NKR...
Message-ID: <20021209042327.VXRH13909.mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net@mtiwebc19>

This the RPM FT-17? I believe it, half the parts, are 'road wheel' halves, and 
then there's those rivets (seriously) you have to apply at different places for 
the WWI version.
Merrill
> >From: "Shane Weier" <bristolf2b@hotmail.com>
> >His review says that the W.4 is the D.I kit with floats. I sure hope >NOT, 
> >since IIRC all the tail surfaces are much larger and I'm not sure >but I 
> >*think* that the wings are larger too.
> 
> I also noticed 200 parts for the FT-17 tanks.  That is a considerable number 
> for a fairly small model!!  Perhaps there's some redundancy for different 
> versions but still.
> 
> Michael
> 
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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 04:34:05 +0000
From: pfalzdvii@att.net
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: New models at NKR...
Message-ID: <20021209043407.WDAL13909.mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net@mtiwebc19>

Nope, Ross, the stock kit comes with single piece vinyl tracks, although, 
Frui... (something or other) makes metal tracks for it, and the 'basic' PE set 
from Eduard has 61 parts and the (AR) Aber set has 114! and Yes, I fully intend 
to build mine, once the metal track set comes in, after seeing armor ace Steve 
Zaloga's at Missing Links.
Merrill 
> Might be that the tracks are individual links. This would account for
> the high number of parts. 
> 
> 
> Ross Moorhouse
> Matrix Games Director of Game Development.
> www.matrixgames.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of
> Michael Kendix
> Sent: Monday, 9 December 2002 2:58 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: [WWI] Re: New models at NKR...
> 
> >From: "Shane Weier" <bristolf2b@hotmail.com>
> >His review says that the W.4 is the D.I kit with floats. I sure hope
> >NOT, 
> >since IIRC all the tail surfaces are much larger and I'm not sure >but
> I 
> >*think* that the wings are larger too.
> 
> I also noticed 200 parts for the FT-17 tanks.  That is a considerable
> number 
> for a fairly small model!!  Perhaps there's some redundancy for
> different 
> versions but still.
> 
> Michael
> 
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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 04:36:14 +0000
From: pfalzdvii@att.net
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: TV alert
Message-ID: <20021209043616.DRFY24110.mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net@mtiwebc19>

They'd better be careful, I have a feeling that if they name anyone but an 
Aussie, they will wish they'd never thought of it!
Merrill
> http://dsc.discovery.com/schedule/episode.jsp?episode=5&cpi=23689
> 
> 	According to the promo, thanks to the use of the latest technology that
> infamous question can finally be answered. I'll be watching.
> 								Carlos

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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 15:41:23 +1100
From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" <rossmoor@bigpond.net.au>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: New models at NKR...
Message-ID: <002f01c29f3d$3d282de0$08482dcb@future>

Ok I don't have the kit so was just taking a stab at it. ;-) 

Cheers
Ross 


-----Original Message-----
From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of
pfalzdvii@att.net
Sent: Monday, 9 December 2002 3:37 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: [WWI] Re: New models at NKR...

Nope, Ross, the stock kit comes with single piece vinyl tracks,
although, 
Frui... (something or other) makes metal tracks for it, and the 'basic'
PE set 
from Eduard has 61 parts and the (AR) Aber set has 114! and Yes, I fully
intend 
to build mine, once the metal track set comes in, after seeing armor ace
Steve 
Zaloga's at Missing Links.
Merrill 
> Might be that the tracks are individual links. This would account for
> the high number of parts. 
> 
> 
> Ross Moorhouse
> Matrix Games Director of Game Development.
> www.matrixgames.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of
> Michael Kendix
> Sent: Monday, 9 December 2002 2:58 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: [WWI] Re: New models at NKR...
> 
> >From: "Shane Weier" <bristolf2b@hotmail.com>
> >His review says that the W.4 is the D.I kit with floats. I sure hope
> >NOT, 
> >since IIRC all the tail surfaces are much larger and I'm not sure
>but
> I 
> >*think* that the wings are larger too.
> 
> I also noticed 200 parts for the FT-17 tanks.  That is a considerable
> number 
> for a fairly small model!!  Perhaps there's some redundancy for
> different 
> versions but still.
> 
> Michael
> 
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