WWI Digest 4817 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Adhesives by "Ray Boorman" 2) Re: casting - yes it's me again.... by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 3) Re: Adhesives by Tom Plesha 4) microscopic leanings by Ken Schmitt 5) accuracy, a gentleman's hobby by Ken Schmitt 6) =?GB2312?B?NzAwtuDN8tfu0MLG88rC0rXD+8K8yM7E49Taz9+y6dGvoaLPwtTY?= by market@cn111.org 7) Re: Amodels by Larry Marshall 8) Re: casting - yes it's me again.... by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 9) Re: casting - yes it's me again.... by Larry Marshall 10) Re: Secret Santa thanks by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 11) Re: Adhesives by ot811 12) =?big5?Q?=B8t=8F=D7=C1p=C5w=A5=E6=A4=CDK-Buffet - =B3=CC=AB=E1=A5l=B6=B0?= by Hk-Love 13) Re: Adhesives by Tom Plesha 14) Re: Adhesives by Karen Rychlewski 15) Re: Adhesives by Tom Plesha 16) Re: Amodels by "NEIL EDDY" 17) Re: Amodels by "Shane Weier" 18) Re: Amodels by "NEIL EDDY" 19) Re: Amodels by "Shane Weier" 20) Re: Amodels by pfalzdvii@att.net 21) Re: Amodels by "NEIL EDDY" 22) Re: Amodels by "Michael Kendix" 23) =?GB2312?B?xvPStcnPzfjT8sP71ve7+g==?= by =?GB2312?B?z+vX9s341b61xL7Nv7S/tA==?= 24) Re: submarine book by "Hans Trauner" 25) Casting Report: YEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSS it works.... (well, almost...) by "Pedro Soares" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 15:55:08 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Adhesives Message-ID: <88A970CBE718D8041A76C7AB25A124AA@Ray_B.prontomail.com> If you use the dark stuff it will shrink the wheels into 1/72 scale, Matt builds all his models this way ;) Ray From: "Diego Fernetti" Sent: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 17:45:34 -0500 (EST) To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Adhesives >I will do that, but I still am curious about the "dark >CA", etc. If Cyanocrilate glue is magic, dar CA must be dangerous. Don't try that at home! D. black cats and all that stuff ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 23:57:36 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: casting - yes it's me again.... Message-ID: <1038614256.3de7fef096e8f@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Pedro Soares : > Tom, John, > > Thanks. Must be Polyester since it's not cured yet (or elese I goofed up > somewhere. I'll check it out tomorrow and let you know). > > Now another question. All the resin kits I've seen are cream in colour. > My > resin is transparent. Why? > Most commercial PU resin producers use a filler (talcum or such) to make the resin go further. Also, most polyester resins are transparent Dave F ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 16:13:38 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Plesha To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Adhesives Message-ID: <20021130001338.1699.qmail@web40303.mail.yahoo.com> OH NO!!!!!!! ANYTHING BUT THAT! .. Later Tom .. --- Ray Boorman wrote: > If you use the dark stuff it will shrink the wheels > into 1/72 scale, > Matt builds all his models this way ;) > > Ray > > From: "Diego Fernetti" > Sent: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 17:45:34 -0500 (EST) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Adhesives > > > >I will do that, but I still am curious about the > "dark > >CA", etc. > > If Cyanocrilate glue is magic, dar CA must be > dangerous. Don't try > that at > home! > D. > black cats and all that stuff > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 18:34:00 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: microscopic leanings Message-ID: sputtering.... > > ..that's no reason to avoid scrutiny of our *modelling* habits you . . . mean . . . they're . . . not one and the same ....thing? Kenneth, the Impressionable ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 18:36:22 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: accuracy, a gentleman's hobby Message-ID: D! > There are many OT drawings in plan and sideview. I > wonder if these are accurate or not. Of course they're NOT. So far, I've yet to encounter the infallible source. -Brave Sir Robin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 08:56:32 +0800 From: market@cn111.org To: wwi@mail.fj.cninfo.net Subject: =?GB2312?B?NzAwtuDN8tfu0MLG88rC0rXD+8K8yM7E49Taz9+y6dGvoaLPwtTY?= Message-ID: <200211300057.TAA98025@mustang.sr.unh.edu> 2002年最新的全国700多万企事业名录任你查询、编辑、下载。 详细内容请访问http://www.cn114.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 20:56:52 -0500 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Amodels Message-ID: <200211292056.52163.larrym@sympatico.ca> On Friday 29 November 2002 05:26 pm, you wrote: > Lawrence of Quebec asks: You just reminded me of my mother. When people used to call me Lawrence she used to stop them abruptly and say "No, his name is Larry." Seems she didn't much like the name Lawrence. I always wondered why she named me Larry with such a passion against Lawrence :-) > Judging just by the Spad A.2 I have, they are quite good, thick on the main > parts, but very very good on the smallest details and parts (the MG support > is injected plastic but very near to scale thickness!) Interesting. It would seem the opinions run the gamet on this line of kits. Thanks. -- Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 21:04:28 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: casting - yes it's me again.... Message-ID: <002e01c29814$d11705b0$603f5b0c@millipore.com> Hmmm...I guess that could be interpreted in a number of ways..... The cold is affecting my brain, Cyg. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pedro Soares" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 6:18 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: casting - yes it's me again.... > You will have best results if you wait until the > > piece hardens up. > > > > Cyg. > > John, I was re-reading your message and I have to say I absolutely agree > with you ;-) > > Pedro > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 21:00:44 -0500 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: casting - yes it's me again.... Message-ID: <200211292100.44920.larrym@sympatico.ca> On Friday 29 November 2002 06:16 pm, you wrote: > Tom, John, > > Thanks. Must be Polyester since it's not cured yet (or elese I goofed up > somewhere. I'll check it out tomorrow and let you know). Does it smell a lot? Polyester resins smell a lot more than other resins. Is it a base with a catalyst added or do you mix 1:1. Polyesters are of the first type. > Now another question. All the resin kits I've seen are cream in colour. My > resin is transparent. Why? Cuz you bought transparent resin :-) I don't like using polyester resins even a little bit. Not only is the catalyst quantity critical, after a while the catalyst becomes less active and so the shelf life isn't that great. -- Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 13:32:55 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Secret Santa thanks Message-ID: <002b01c29818$c9f81130$9a4e2dcb@future> You could be Santa to us all if you like.. ;-) Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Wright" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 8:55 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Secret Santa thanks > > > Did I miss something? I haven't received who I'm being santa to. > > Allan > > > Mika (and Michael)say > > > > > > > > > > Still haven't worked out the identity of my benefactor who lives in > > > > Indianapolis, apparently. > > > > > > >Wait a minute, I just got mine and it was also from Indianapolis! > > > > Clearly the USPS office there has Santas mail contract...... > > > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > > ============================================================================ === > Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside > University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- > Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org > Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org > ============================================================================ === > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 21:48:44 -0500 From: ot811 To: Subject: Re: Adhesives Message-ID: <20021130024825.8E89F690C62@mail.mailsnare.net> Tom, If this is the stuff that the "Tool man" was selling at the VA beach Nats, then I can tell you that the CA is not much use. 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I've tried it on a couple of scraps to see what happens. thanks Tom .. --- ot811 wrote: > Tom, > If this is the stuff that the "Tool man" was > selling at the VA > beach Nats, then I can tell you that the CA is not > much use. It is > supposedly "shock absorbent" CA that can be used on > wheels of flying > models. That is what the lady at the cash register > told us. Karen, > dont you remember the same? > regards > Sanjeev > > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 22:53:44 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Adhesives Message-ID: <3DE6E4C7.5F6CB09C@earthlink.net> ot811 wrote: > Tom, > If this is the stuff that the "Tool man" was selling at the VA > beach Nats, then I can tell you that the CA is not much use. It is > supposedly "shock absorbent" CA that can be used on wheels of flying > models. That is what the lady at the cash register told us. Karen, > dont you remember the same? Ya, Sanjeev, that's my recollection. She said that right after Tom walked off with the bottle he bought and right before you put back the bottle you had in your hand. 'Course I don't have a clue what she meant by "shock absorbent" CA...I smiled and nodded knowingly though Dame Karen (luxuriating on her new carpeting in her new living room in her old house. Did you know the worst thing you can do to carpets is walk on them with your bare feets? But ooooooooo, it feels sooooo good!! :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 20:54:41 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Plesha To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Adhesives Message-ID: <20021130045441.51377.qmail@web40302.mail.yahoo.com> --- Karen Rychlewski wrote: > SNIP > 'Course I don't have a clue what she meant by "shock > absorbent" CA...I > smiled and nodded knowingly though > You can drop it, kick it, throw it and if its holding your model together then you'll have a bunch of shattered parts next to the black ca outline of the model. .. At least something survives. .. Later Tom __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 15:58:02 +1100 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: Amodels Message-ID: <00f401c2982d$10ba72c0$0e5732d2@default> Probably right Larry, SAMI reviews a lot of them and the reviewers feelings are quite mixed. This is usually about the limited run nature of the parts and the amount of work needed to get them right. Still looking at the photos of the finished articles, they build up well. Most reviewers are usually pretty positive about their accuracy though. All the Best Neil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Marshall" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 1:02 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Amodels > On Friday 29 November 2002 05:26 pm, you wrote: > > Lawrence of Quebec asks: > > You just reminded me of my mother. When people used to call me Lawrence she > used to stop them abruptly and say "No, his name is Larry." Seems she didn't > much like the name Lawrence. I always wondered why she named me Larry with > such a passion against Lawrence :-) > > > Judging just by the Spad A.2 I have, they are quite good, thick on the main > > parts, but very very good on the smallest details and parts (the MG support > > is injected plastic but very near to scale thickness!) > > Interesting. It would seem the opinions run the gamet on this line of kits. > Thanks. > > -- > Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 15:43:18 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Amodels Message-ID: Neil says: >Probably right Larry, SAMI reviews a lot of them and the reviewers feelings >are quite mixed. This is usually about the limited run nature of the parts >and the amount of work needed to get them right. Still looking at the >photos >of the finished articles, they build up well. Most reviewers are usually >pretty positive about their accuracy though. Heck, that's because the reviewers in SAMI don't know anything about their subject if it isn't in the 1952 Boys Big Book of Exciting Things, they don't have a reference for it Shane _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 16:57:12 +1100 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: Amodels Message-ID: <019901c29835$54652a80$0e5732d2@default> This is also probably right. Though there are some reviewers they use whose work I respect All the Best Neil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Weier" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 4:45 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Amodels > Neil says: > > >Probably right Larry, SAMI reviews a lot of them and the reviewers feelings > >are quite mixed. This is usually about the limited run nature of the parts > >and the amount of work needed to get them right. Still looking at the > >photos > >of the finished articles, they build up well. Most reviewers are usually > >pretty positive about their accuracy though. > > Heck, that's because the reviewers in SAMI don't know anything about their > subject if it isn't in the 1952 Boys Big Book of Exciting Things, they don't > have a reference for it > > Shane > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 16:42:31 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Amodels Message-ID: Neil >This is also probably right. Though there are some reviewers they use whose >work I respect True. St Harry for one. OTOH I'm thinking of the chap who criticised one manufacturer for showing a painting on their artwork of an Pfalz with "no guns" - because he was unaware that a D.III has them under the hood, so to speak - and another who went into some detail about how to paint exhaust stains on a rotary engined aircraft - behind the *intakes* Not in themselves serious errors, but ones that made me cringe when the reviewers then canned the maunfacturer over "accuracy" People in glass houses and all.... Shane _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 06:54:53 +0000 From: pfalzdvii@att.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Amodels Message-ID: <20021130065454.TJID20682.mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net@mtiwebc17> Shane, The cases you mentioned made me wince, and I'm not squeamish. The amount of ignorance and misinformation out there are daunting, although, up until about 7 years ago, I would have mistaken rotary intakes for exhausts, myself. Merrill > Neil > > >This is also probably right. Though there are some reviewers they use whose > >work I respect > > True. St Harry for one. OTOH I'm thinking of the chap who criticised one > manufacturer for showing a painting on their artwork of an Pfalz with "no > guns" - because he was unaware that a D.III has them under the hood, so to > speak - and another who went into some detail about how to paint exhaust > stains on a rotary engined aircraft - behind the *intakes* > > Not in themselves serious errors, but ones that made me cringe when the > reviewers then canned the maunfacturer over "accuracy" People in glass > houses and all.... > > Shane > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 18:09:45 +1100 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: Amodels Message-ID: <000e01c2983f$7717b840$a3db32d2@default> Shane; Yes, some are prertty ordinary and I think I can build as good as one or two of them. I do like the work of Nicholas Wigman, Dai Williams, and Peter Fearis. The first two mostly do features now. I did like the reviewer who recommended that the Hit Kit Roland D-VIb box should never be opened too.... All the Best Neil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Weier" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 5:43 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Amodels > Neil > > >This is also probably right. Though there are some reviewers they use whose > >work I respect > > True. St Harry for one. OTOH I'm thinking of the chap who criticised one > manufacturer for showing a painting on their artwork of an Pfalz with "no > guns" - because he was unaware that a D.III has them under the hood, so to > speak - and another who went into some detail about how to paint exhaust > stains on a rotary engined aircraft - behind the *intakes* > > Not in themselves serious errors, but ones that made me cringe when the > reviewers then canned the maunfacturer over "accuracy" People in glass > houses and all.... > > Shane > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 13:40:32 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Amodels Message-ID: I think one reason the reviews are mixed is that the kits do vary somewhat in terms of quality. Sure, they have a number of fundamental things in common - namely, the plastic parts are a little thick and there can be some flash. It's not short-run like Pegasus but it's nowhere near Roden/Toko either. I've seen what appear to be some superb builds using them; e.g. the Tomashevich Pegas Pre-WW2 Russian two-engine bomber by Caz Daulton on MM http://m2reviews.cnsi.net/reviews/allies/ussr/cazpegas.htm note that he used after market engines though. However, some of the detail on the major pieces is sometimes absent. For example, the underside of the wings on the SPAD A.2 are completely smooth - you can make your own easily enough but I'm just trying to explain what I mean. Another example is the Yak-1 with it's almost smooth fuselage sides - doesn't have the prominent fabric ribs that it probably should have. On the other hand if you want a Yak-1 or SPAD A.2 in 1/72nd scale, thanks to A-Model, you have the opportunity to build one. Another thing about A-Model is their clear parts - somewhat thick but again, you can use them as a mold to crash form a clear part yourself should you so desire. Then again, for WW1, clear parts are not much of an issue. To be honest, I've not built an A-Model kit so you should take that into account when weighting my opinion. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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The artist's name is not given (!!), but I would be surprised if it is not J.B. The drawings are qualified guesswork. WWI seems to be faaaaar better than the WWII drawings, which are simply oversimplified or even completely wrong. I have no infos on those doomsday machines used today, so I can can't give an opinion. Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 11:43 PM Subject: [WWI] submarine book > Hey! > I just find in a second hand bookstore a cheapo book named "Submarines: The > History and evolution of Underwater Fighting Vessels" by Anthony Preston and > illustrations by John Batchelor. It's a large format book with many coloured > drawings and cutouts. There are many OT drawings in plan and sideview. I > wonder if these are accurate or not. > Any of the listees may have this book on his/her shelves and can comment on > accuracy? Sandle Shane, perhaps? Bob P.? > Au revoir > D. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 15:13:50 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Casting Report: YEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSS it works.... (well, almost...) Message-ID: <001001c29883$17cc5500$0d465451@netcabo.pt> Ok gang, The resin set and today I opened the mould. Inside was a perfect reproduction of the master with only a very slight problem on one of the pipes that due to a very small flaw on the mould (that I have now corrected) wasn't entirely moulded, so the first one is a miss but I'm sure I have the problem sorted out. Thanks for all those that have helped. Dave, you mention adding talcum to the resin. Is it ok if I add some to the mix then? I don't like transparent parts since they are harder to clean. Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: Hans Trauner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 2:34 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: submarine book > Diego, > what I have is the german version of 'The World's Great Submarines' by the > same author. The artist's name is not given (!!), but I would be surprised > if it is not J.B. > The drawings are qualified guesswork. WWI seems to be faaaaar better than > the WWII drawings, which are simply oversimplified or even completely wrong. > I have no infos on those doomsday machines used today, so I can can't give > an opinion. > > Hans > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diego Fernetti" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 11:43 PM > Subject: [WWI] submarine book > > > > Hey! > > I just find in a second hand bookstore a cheapo book named "Submarines: > The > > History and evolution of Underwater Fighting Vessels" by Anthony Preston > and > > illustrations by John Batchelor. It's a large format book with many > coloured > > drawings and cutouts. There are many OT drawings in plan and sideview. I > > wonder if these are accurate or not. > > Any of the listees may have this book on his/her shelves and can comment > on > > accuracy? Sandle Shane, perhaps? Bob P.? > > Au revoir > > D. > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4817 **********************